Quitting coffee and the ensuing effects

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I'm thinking about doing this, at least for a while. Anyone kicked the bean here? What effects/strategies/advice have you?

webcrack (music=crack), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

I cannot exist without coffee in the morning. I would rather give up sex.

dodgy son, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

You can do it, but you may have headaches for a while. The question is, why do it? It isn't in the least harmful and it tastes good and makes you happy.

Skottie, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

Have a nap cave at the ready.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

I would only do it because it's getting expensive to drink it at work. I missed the 'coffee deadline' yesterday and had a bad headache all afternoon until I grabbed a Coke after work.

But if you really want to, I'm sure you'd be okay after a few days to a week of headaches (moderated by soda and aspirin if necessary).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link

What's the 'coffee deadline'?

I switched to black tea in the mornings a few years ago and I've never looked back. There's enough caffeine there to get me up, but it's a heck of a lot easier on my stomach / nerves / etc. I'll still have the occasional cup of coffee - maybe once a month - but then it's more like an indulgence than a necessity.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, just that they stop selling coffee in the cafeteria here anytime between 2:00 and 2:30. For some reason I chose a headache rather than just getting a Coke out of the vending machine, it was a coffee or nothing mood.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

I've been trying to give up, but it's impossible. Without it, I'm all fuzzy-headed and moody and anti-social. Wait...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

Once I stopped my regular routine of coffee every morning I got a horrific migraine that wouldn't go away for almost three days. After that everything was fine.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

Ah yeah Jordan, I see. Yeah, the headache thing is a problem, but actually if your aspirin of choice is excedrin it works even better because it has the caffeine in it. I keep a bottle in my desk.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

i drink diet sody pop.

Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

The question is, why do it? It isn't in the least harmful


High blood pressure, mainly, and it makes me shake. Literally. I can't hold my hand steady at all from morning to early afternoon, and when combined with adrenaline it makes me really light-headed and almost dizzy.

webcrack (music=crack), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

Caffeine just has a very bad effect on me physically now, if it didn't I'd still be drinking coffee all the time. I miss it.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

Part of that lightheadedness/dizziness may be the result of some dehydration too, from the diuretic effect. Remember to drink some water too.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

It makes me sweat a little.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

I spose there's always decaf. But like watered down beer, I just can't get acclimated to either.

jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 03:38 (twenty years ago) link

There's some damn good decafs around though. Lavazza make a decaf espresso roast my partner is using as he's too sensitive to caffiene to drink it, and he loves it, says its really strong.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 05:29 (twenty years ago) link

My parents serve espressos made with decaf, and bugger me if I can't tell the difference even if I try really hard. That said, decaf filter coffee is ranx0r.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 10:02 (twenty years ago) link

four weeks pass...
I am cught in a bilogical Catch 22. Either I drink coffee and suffer the searing stomach pains, or I quit and get the throbbing headaches and the fuzziness. Why is the human body so crap?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Nordic,

Can't you use a substitute caffeine source that's not so harsh on your stomach? What kind of coffee do you drink?

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Mike, do you know Chatz at ummmmm, is it Howard and 2nd?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I am addicted to their "Fog Lifters".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i quit it about a month ago. just general crankiness in the morning. nothing new.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't know Chatz. What is?

I've taken to only drinking espresso oddly enough. Cuts way down on the caffeine, big on taste, and because of lower volume and no milk ends up easier on tum as well.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

My body hates coffee too, I have an allergy to caffeine that only developed a few years back - the withdrawal was pure hell for a couple of weeks but when you come out the other side you feel 10 times better, I swear!

smee (smee), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Chatz is a great little hole in the wall coffee place. They are very friendly people. I think it is a chain with some retail stores as well?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

On the other thread I was suggesting you check out Van Heusen for clothes at 2nd and Mission.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes yes. I saw that.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i used to not be affected by caffeine and while i'd drink coffee often i never felt anything from it. sometimes i had like a cup a day, sometimes none, sometimes 2 or 3. but then i started getting coffee from this place near home (when i moved to this current apt) and the stuff got me so addicted. it's french roast and very strong and will often make me lightheaded, high, and weird heartbeat. A few weeks ago I started using a coffee maker to cut down on cost. the stuff i started out with was pretty light, but i just ran out of that first pound. today i picked up a pound of that french roast and i have the two little bags of it sitting right in front of me smelling OH SO GOOD. i cant wait to get home and brew up a cup or 5. it's at least as effective as ephedra and im never quitting.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm back to drinking some coffee, although not nearly as much as I did before. It's very hard to quit altogether.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha, I was just wondering about this thread as I bought a bag of coffee beans this morning finally...looks like I made it just about a month. I still drank some tea, and surprisingly had no negative effects, just lessened anxiety, no more erratic heartbeat, and no longer shaky. I'm going to try monitored intake now; I really had the taste for good espresso today. There was an article in the NY Times a couple of weeks ago about caffeine intoxication that was quite edifying.

webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

The coffee I make at home is crap no matter what I do.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

@d@m -- I think someone said this upthread, but why not try tea? It won't help kick the caffeine -- I think it actually has more. But it'll keep the headaches away and it's easy on the stomach.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

it's too effeminate.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Also-it tastes bad.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't quit coffee since I have a picture of a cup of it tattooed on my forearm.

I suppose I could get the fob from a tea bag tattooed over it so it would become a cup of tea, but that's kinda wanky.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh well. I'm hardly one to talk -- didn't make it much longer than a month on tea alone.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

drink coke

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Um...but stomach.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Or was that just a plug?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you a street teamer? 4AD are obviously paying you a fortune.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

@d@aml, coffee at home is crap, yes. Esp. filter. The only way I've been able to do it well is with an espresso machine. Just takes a lot more time to make though, time that I'd rather use sitting at my kitchen table and drinking coffee!

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The little stove-top espresso makers make a pretty good cup if you drink it with cream. Black still comes out pretty crap though.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

coke has nothing to do with 4ad!

but yes you should drink FLAT coke with ice, it won't mess up your stomach, and if you drink five of them you won't be fiending for caffeine

or just eat no-doze

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 22 April 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate coffee. it tastes like real poo and only grown ups drink it.
it makes you stink inside also

splatter, Thursday, 22 April 2004 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I am trying to go at least a week without caffeine as part of a detox - i've had kinds of digestive problems recently so thought i'd give healthy living a go. it's now 4pm on day one of caffeine-free living and result so far is a filthy headache and chonic latte cravings. anyone offer some hope that i'll feel better soon, or should i just go to starbucks right now and be done with it?

Mog, Thursday, 10 June 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

headache will last a day (maybe a day and a half if you drank alot). the hard part will be learning to wake up without caffeine. after a week you will feel awesome.

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 10 June 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
i quit caffeine about 2 years ago. before that i was a pretty serious about things like coffee. withdrawal was pure hell -- i had cold sweats, headaches, shook a lot, etc. took me three weeks for it to get out of my system properly. and to think it was a new years resolution that i had pretty much expected to give up after a week!

but here i am and im feeling fine. well, right now im not. starbucks gave me a regular latte and i feel like im going to die.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i had like 3 oz. of coffee yesterday morning and i was wired all day! this is what happens when you give up caffeine. seriously, it was the first bit of coffee i've had in several months. i was just happy i was able to fall asleep last night.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i had one of those "venti" sized things. i dont think my stomach has felt this bad since i had food poisioning.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i have considered switching up to green tea but maybe that is a frying pan / fire situation

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 September 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

luckily i dislike tea in all its forms

mark s, Thursday, 8 September 2016 08:58 (seven years ago) link

even chai? I like coffee fine but I don't know what I'd do without chai

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:31 (seven years ago) link

I drink nuts amount of coffee.

Last holiday, the opportunity for coffee drinking was negligible. Didn't particularly miss it, until one day I felt like I'd like one. Even then, if they hadn't had it, it would not have been a biggie.

More surprised there wasn't any crayvinnnggsssss

Mark G, Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:36 (seven years ago) link

even rooibos and pu-erh and russian brick tea

mark s, Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

I have found since I started taking arctic root (proper name Rhodiola Rosea) every day I barely crave any caffeine on a morning any more. It actually gives me an energy jolt that lasts all day. Although I take it in tablet form and couldn't vouch for brewed method of ingestion practiced in the Russian arctic regions for centuries. It probably tastes like bear piss but it's effects and benefits as a natural stimulant are exceptional.

calzino, Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link

verveine/verbena is pretty amazing as a late-nite rinse-out

no caffeine tho

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:57 (seven years ago) link

my basic intuition -- about myself anyway -- is an energy jolt is energy borrowed from the future and that while you can obviously set up a cycle of repeat-borrows (and do), you end up paying a price for this, same as two days after something's really adrenalised you you feel like shit

my price seems to be just constant low-level headaches -- they are shiftable (esp with caffeine) but are really only always deferred

plus i would like to sleep better sometimes

mark s, Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link

well-put.

I've been pretty bad at my quitting scheme this year but not awful. Splitting days about evenly between one cafe au lait when I have the urge to leave the house and go to the coffee shop, and one black tea when I stay home (sometimes topped up with a Coke later on, which come to think of it NEVER actually makes me feel better). Green tea hits my stomach way too hard. What's really hard to shake is when I go out for a full breakfast and it just seems so obvious that steady refills of a little off-white mug of drip coffee would just hit the spot perfectly. I don't think I've broken the habit hard enough yet where I could just indulge in that one day here and there and suffer no relapses in my overall project of cutting back. But good sleep and not having headaches and just generally being more even in my energy level throughout the day are all important things.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 September 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link

What I find with the Rhodiola is that it doesn't keep me awake at all, but it does give me lucid dreaming maximus - like when on nicotine patches. But I never feel like it is tapping out of future reserves. They have been using it in the east for millennia without much complaints. But if someone is sensitive to headaches it could cause problems I guess. I only just had my first migraine a few years ago and I thought I was dying or going blind! I am so unused to headaches it is probably one of the areas where I have to check my privilege:p It is strange because my mum was always afflicted with very debilitating headaches on a weekly basis, but i never get them at all.

calzino, Thursday, 8 September 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

I quit drinking coffee for a few weeks recently and noticed I would feel tired and like I was "coming to" for the whole day. One coffee in the morning was a ritual to get in a better mood for the day and certainly it elevated my mood to be able to deal with my office job. I'm back drinking coffee daily again, and I've traded the ennui for a momentary bump and an inevitable crash.

Ross, Thursday, 8 September 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link

Got completely off coffee a few months ago. Wasn't sleeping, acidy stomach and even noticed my perspiration - when I did - left my clothes smelling bad. Began to drink black tea and green only and all that bs is gone now. Bye coffee! I loved ya but ...laters.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 8 September 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

no coffee at all now for two months (w/one experimental relapse not repeated) -- i miss the taste a lot but not the effects

related matter in this thread:
the thread of ATRIAL FIBBING

mark s, Thursday, 8 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

article about sleep/coffee/etc

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/how-to-sleep/508781/

global tetrahedron, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Tapering off coffee by substituting a less-caffeinated hot drink might not be everyone's cup of... eh, fuck it.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

i've heard good things about yerba mate

global tetrahedron, Friday, 9 December 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

i don’t want to shit up the Coffee thread so i’m here

and this sucks

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

on the plus side your breath smells even fresher

the late great, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

I switched to tea in October to see if it would stop the palpitations and it seemed to do the trick immediately. So no more coffee for me I guess.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link

damn tracer, sending strength <3

the coffee thread reminds me of audiophile shit sometimes lol <3 in a good way

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link

Sheesh how much coffee were you drinking camaraderie? and you too Tracer if you don’t mind answering

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 2 February 2023 02:19 (one year ago) link

Not even that much! I'd say 3-4 cups a day. 2 in the morning, then a double espresso in the afternoon. But I've done this for pretty much ever since I can remember. A decade? Two? So the switch has been a little rough. I feel fuzzy and disconnected, like what I imagine antidepressants might feel like. The edges sanded off. I miss ol' rootin tootin Tracer. And it takes.. several seconds to like, form the words of a response if somebody asks me a question. It's like Flowers for Algernon lol

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:19 (one year ago) link

Worth saying too this was not my idea; my doc recommended it as a mitigation for my migraines

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:27 (one year ago) link

I was having two, maybe three cups per day, but I have a heart condition which causes frequent tachycardia.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

I felt groggy for a few days but now feel significantly better in the mornings especially (the "before I've had my coffee" time)

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:49 (one year ago) link

Sincere best wishes to you both

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 2 February 2023 09:55 (one year ago) link

I know more people that have cut out coffee than have cut out alcohol, tbh. I couldn't imagine. The same neuroscience doc I posted about in the alcohol thread, he's brought up coffee a few times, and given his objective buzzkill-ness I keep expecting him to tell everyone to cut it out, too, but he keeps finding positive things to say about coffee/caffeine. For example, not only is its dopamine kick much, much lower than stuff like chocolate, but chemically it actually positively affects your dopamine receptors in a beneficial way (as opposed to the usual peaks and valleys of its stimulant peers). Surprising.

Anyway, good luck! I hear the first two weeks of quitting anything can be the toughest.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

yes post all my procedures (see the atrial fibbing thread for details) i have a high resting heart rate and have intermittently come off coffee for a few months at a time to see if that makes a difference

well it doesn't so i'm back on right now -- my cardiologist says absent other problematic symptoms the high heart rate isn't concerning him especially (check in again at the end of the year) and as far as he's concerned coffee is unrelated and good for you in other ways

once i've actually fkn moved house -- i whish this could hurry up a bit lol -- i might try cutting down again as i want to shift all my habits a bit in the new place (walk more, swim more, lose some weight, eat a salad) as i definitely sleep much better after the several (many) days of dreary grief

mainly i fall off the wagon bcz hard-deadline subbing & proofing needs me to be SHARP AS A PIN FIRST THING (but my plan is to be doing less of that also, as it pais less and less and less and less)

mark s, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:20 (one year ago) link

Ugh, I have both migraines and heart palpitations, so I guess I probably should cut out coffee, but I'm scared of the withdrawal migraines and what will happen when I don't have it to help me focus.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 2 February 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

(lol not me discussing proofing and being sharp as a pin and then spelling "pays" as "pais")

mark s, Thursday, 2 February 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link

fwiw have have had only a low-level headache for one (1x) day as a result of this and today i'm actually feeling pretty good mentally, just a bit bereft of my little ritual

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

In my experience, the brutal symptoms (headaches, fogginess) are all really, really frontloaded in those first few days. Superstitiously, I go for rehydrating drinks, hot showers, Tylenol and naps. Eventually you're on the other side.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

and that’s where i am

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

guys i have been taking only magnificent shits

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

A good substitute for the ritual aspect, I've found during times where I had to swear off coffee: heating a cup of broth.

Chris L, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link

i am drinking roiboos tea like my life depends on it. probably will develop some form of roiboos-inflicted malady

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link

I gave up alcohol five years ago to save my life and my marriage. I'm sure as fuck not giving up coffee.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

guys i have been taking only magnificent shits


Was this necessary to share, also I’m concerned if this is you after coffee

https://mp4media.gannett-cdn.com/28911775001/28911775001_6087157198001_6087153323001-vs.jpg?pubId=28911775001&width=1280&height=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp

here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

lol a barry zito macro for every occasion

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

i just had coffee again and gents this is the stuff

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:58 (ten months ago) link

sorry wrong thread. or is it.i am absolutely flying. seeing through the universe. cracking jokes before i even start my sentence.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:59 (ten months ago) link

sightly unsettling vibes in my extremities and general heart location

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:59 (ten months ago) link

thread's here if you need it :(

the thread of ATRIAL FIBBING

mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:14 (ten months ago) link

:/

i think i'm okay. but suddenly very emotional

caffeine's a hell of a drug, kids

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 09:19 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

god i fucking love roiboos

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 08:31 (ten months ago) link

stand by for a "quitting roiboos and the ensuing effects" thread

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 08:31 (ten months ago) link

🤖

mark s, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 08:53 (ten months ago) link

Did the thing of drinking restaurant coffee which revealed that I was in a worse mood than I thought :(

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:43 (nine months ago) link

One brand that for whatever reason does not give me that weird erratic takeoff and crash on the runway feeling is Lavazza.

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:45 (nine months ago) link

Perhaps I spoke too soon

Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 23 June 2023 01:31 (nine months ago) link


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