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do you date people who you feel aren't as intelligent as you? how do you deal with this?

ethan, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

It's not that they're not as intelligent, just that they seem to have no interest in anything remotely intellectual. I'm not exactly a genius myself obviously but still.

If I like the person enough then I'm sure I've some way of dealing with it.

Er........what a shit reply.

Ronan, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

no >>>>> i am a virgin

mark s, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I usually date people far stupider than I, and then play dumb. It's far easier to destroy people that way.

But of course the second I met someone as clever as I, I fucking went and got engaged to him. *sigh* Maybe I'm not as bright as I thought.

Ally, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

ooh, ParadoxicAlly..

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

It's like that book.

Ally, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

i'd never date someone stupider than me. stupid people suck.

hamish, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I find stupid people cute. Especially when they suck.

Momus, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Soon Yi is probably more intelligent than Woody Allen. He has to toil to make cack-handed films with Helen Hunt, she shops for shoes and eats chocolates (probably).

My point being, there are different kinds of smart. Wot-evah works...

Nicole, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

People who are 'too smart' to reproduce(or at have sex)=kind of a contradiction in terms, que no?

turner, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Interesting coincidence, I was at Blockbuster tonight with a Halloween Boo-Book coupon for a free Favourite, and having seen every damn good movie in the place, I shrugged and simply picked up Annie Hall, safe in the knowledge I'd have almost the best fun one can get without laughing. It just ended ("some of us need the eggs"), and it's quite fitting that Ethan bothered to post about it.

To answer the (fascinatingly perverse) question, I date girls who are not as cultivated as me, and deal with this by attempting to fill them up with my junk. When I find a girl who can match me, and who just happens to be model-like, I freak out.

Simon, Tuesday, 23 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

'sex with you is really a kafkaesque experience...'

ethan, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

DAvid is more intelligent and wider in his intellectual pursuits then i could ever be. i am not smart , i can gather and process info well.

anthony, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

'you, uh, look like a really happy couple. how do you account for it?'

'well, i'm very shallow and empty and have no ideas and nothing interesting to say.'

'and i'm exactly the same way.'

ethan, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

you know, if only john gray were here, and we could ask him about the mars and venus divide.

Geoff, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
oops i did it again

s trife (simon_tr), Thursday, 10 October 2002 07:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

haaaaa

and what, Thursday, 5 July 2007 20:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

I forgot how high Woody Allen's voice is. It's higher than mine, I think.

god bless this -ation (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

^ My kinda revive.

Actually, I noticed in his recent Fresh Air interview, his voice is getting a little raspy and old-mannish!

A Foul Night-Weird (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

I just watched Annie Hall and I felt like freaking Big Bertha bcz of his little voice.

god bless this -ation (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Whereas his voice makes mine seem a little more manly.

So: engaged in this very slow chronological watch-through of his films, and was thoroughly expecting his career to be back-loaded with crap. But I think Sweet & Lowdown might be one of my absolute favorites.

A Foul Night-Weird (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

he's pretty great up through 2000 - but the 00s have been a bad decade for him. a lot of crap

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 20:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Whatever Works is great! Esp. the monologue at the beginning. I've sworn off the Times.

calstars, Monday, 9 November 2009 03:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

totally disagree - watched it Saturday and thought it was terrible. Larry David couldn't sell that dialogue, which wasn't any good to begin with for the most part, and everything seemed so half-assed and predictable and tired...

I think after a decade of bad films (Match Point excepted) its time Allen and I parted ways. he's definitively past it now.

the butt is like a wailin' guitar solo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

how do u think he'll react?

311 is a joek (s1ocki), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

whinily

the butt is like a wailin' guitar solo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

his recent work makes What's New Pussycat? look masterful.

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

sad but true

the butt is like a wailin' guitar solo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

What's New Pussycat has jokes at least

the butt is like a wailin' guitar solo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

god i hate WNP

311 is a joek (s1ocki), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

couldn't make it through anything else tbh

311 is a joek (s1ocki), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

i mean whatever works

311 is a joek (s1ocki), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

an equally unmemorable title

311 is a joek (s1ocki), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Woody hates WNP too! The question is why he doesn't hate these scripts he's shooting.

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

well he's never been a good judge of his own work but at this point I assume he just continues out of habit

the butt is like a wailin' guitar solo (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 November 2009 16:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Doesn't he periodically call a lot of his disasters his favourite film to date when making them?

EDB, Monday, 23 November 2009 18:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

I dunno, but he said he wanted to scrap Manhattan when he finished it.

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 November 2009 18:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

I want a copy of this:

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51T-PMA6C-L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

mascara and ties (Abbott), Monday, 23 November 2009 18:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think a lot of those are available online somewhere.

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 23 November 2009 19:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Doesn't he periodically call a lot of his disasters his favourite film to date when making them?

To his credit, he usually hates his films.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 November 2009 19:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Move over Scarlett Johansson — Woody Allen has a new muse: France’s first lady, the model-turned-singer Carla Bruni-Sarkozy.

The brunette beauty will appear in Woody’s next film in a role that is, as yet, undefined, reports Bloomberg.

“He offered me a role in his next movie,” Carla told a French TV show yesterday.

“I don’t know for what character, but I said yes. I’m not an actress at all,” says the wife of France’s president Nicolas Sarkozy. “Maybe I will be terrible. But, in my life, I cannot let such a chance go.”

Previously, Woody, 73, has waxed lyrical about 25-year-old Scarlett — who has starred in three of the director’s movies, Match Point, Scoop and Vicky Cristina Barcelona — saying, “She’s very charming, very bright, very amusing.

“She livens the set up. The minute she walks on the set, the amperage goes up 200 points… Whenever there’s a part she could play, she would probably always be my first choice.”

velko, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 23:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

this fuckin guy

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 23:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Thorough summary of Woody's first 20 years in showbiz, including the magazine ads he did:

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2010/02/the-early-woody-allen-.html

Links to some clips from "Hot Dog", a kids' show from '71 which is the first time I remember seeing him on TV. Woody & Jo Ann Worley on how money is made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AtALhw0Ksc

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 February 2010 14:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Q. How do you feel about the aging process?

A. Well, I’m against it.

[....]

Q. Were you prepared for the firestorm of media coverage you set off by casting Carla Bruni-Sarkozy in your next movie, “Midnight in Paris”?

A. I was very surprised at the level of journalism that occurred in relation to her.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/movies/15woody.html?src=me&ref=general

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Thursday, 16 September 2010 17:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Love that first answer. The whole interview is pretty entertaining.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 September 2010 18:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ime, Woody has two well-developed schticks: Funny Woody with his gulping delivery of every line and Artsy Woody who stays behind the camera and creates little drawing room dramas. I can't say I'm much taken with either schtick. I can take them or leave them. Mostly leave them.

Aimless, Thursday, 16 September 2010 18:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

funny Woody was frequently great and still has (hot) flashes of brilliance

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 September 2010 18:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't remember the last movie he did that was genuinely funny tbh. nothing this decade.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 September 2010 18:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Curse of the Jade Scorpion maybe

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 September 2010 18:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6595/050708095500.jpg

bamcquern, Thursday, 16 September 2010 18:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think the moment that throws the sheer incomprehensible madness of this thing into relief is the line about halfway through the profile when daphne merkin casually informs us that, somewhere in the middle of this whole ordeal (i.e., after mia found the photos and after she'd mailed him a family portrait with a knife skewering it but before the dylan incident), "farrow and allen continued to see each other."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 September 2018 20:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

incomprehensible weirdos

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 September 2018 20:23 (seven months ago) Permalink

like i'm still reading these articles out of morbid curiosity but when i got to that part i just realized there's no way i'm ever gonna figure these ppl out.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 September 2018 20:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

after she'd mailed him a family portrait with a knife skewering it... "farrow and allen continued to see each other."

have no problem believing either that this wasn't edge-case behaviour for Farrow or that Allen would choose not to escalate conflict in response

▫◌▫ (sic), Monday, 17 September 2018 20:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

yes, which is why i refuse to play detective in this matter, like many insufferable ppl who are *certain* of what happened on both sides

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 September 2018 20:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Open and thoughtful, Engelhardt unspools a life story that took root in a strict German immigrant household and blossomed into a Zelig-esque series of adventures as she attempted to break into modeling: partying with Iman, jet-setting with Adnan Khashoggi, dining with Stephen King, working as a personal assistant to Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire financier later convicted for soliciting an underage girl. Following her time with Allen, she went on to become a platonic muse to Federico Fellini during the auteur's late-life journeys in Rome and Tulum, Mexico, then spent years tending to egos as a hostess in the executive dining room at Paramount before landing her current gig, working as an assistant for producer Bob Evans.

All that's missing is an admission of involvement in Iran-Contra and a secret pardon by Poppy.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:51 (four months ago) Permalink

damn

Despite the initial shock of jealousy, Engelhardt says she grew to like Farrow over the course of the "handful" of three-way sex sessions that followed at Allen's penthouse as they smoked joints and bonded over a shared fondness for animals. ("When Mia was there, we'd talk about astrology, and Woody was forced to listen," she laughs.) Engelhardt writes in her manuscript, "There were times the three of us were together, and it was actually great fun. We enjoyed each other when we were in the moment. She was beautiful and sweet, he was charming and alluring, and I was sexy and becoming more and more sophisticated in this game. It wasn't until after it was done when I really had time to think of how twisted it was when we were together … and how I was little more than a plaything." She continues, "While we were together, the whole thing was a game that was being operated solely by Woody so we never quite knew where we stood."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:55 (four months ago) Permalink

the heart wants what it wants

(i think that's the organ)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:56 (four months ago) Permalink

i was gonna make a Zelig joke but the writer beat me to it

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 December 2018 19:57 (four months ago) Permalink

no big surprise that a writer-director-producer would have skills at manipulating people to do what he pleased

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:03 (four months ago) Permalink

really reminds me of the Jimmy Page/Lori Maddox situation, just in terms of how Engelhardt looks back on it

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:09 (four months ago) Permalink

no big surprise that a writer-director-producer would have skills at manipulating people to do what he pleased

― A is for (Aimless), 17. december 2018 21:03 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If this is taken for granted, then absolutely nothing involving Allen and Farrow is hard to figure out anymore.

Frederik B, Monday, 17 December 2018 22:24 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

like i'm still reading these articles out of morbid curiosity but when i got to that part i just realized there's no way i'm ever gonna figure these ppl out.


Totally agree w this.

nathom, Friday, 8 February 2019 10:56 (two months ago) Permalink

I love how every accuser is always accused in turn for just doing it for the money, meanwhile Woody Allen is just out their claiming that he has 68 million on the line in a case where his camp has had some very nasty counter-accusations.

Frederik B, Friday, 8 February 2019 18:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Nobody on the accusing-Woody side has been counteraccused of doing it for the money.

The Very Fugly Caterpillar (sic), Friday, 8 February 2019 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Allen's ruthless POS behavior toward his accusers just makes me think it's more likely that the accusations are true.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 8 February 2019 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

let's say he (or anyone) is innocent. What is the non-POS way to proceed?

(btw, there is one accusation.)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 February 2019 19:34 (two months ago) Permalink

I am going to hang up and listen, bcz i'm not getting drawn into this Celebrity Mentalism shit.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 February 2019 19:35 (two months ago) Permalink

A non-POS way to proceed could for instance be not to sue Mia Farrow for custody immediately after hearing about the accusation. That was a supremely POS thing to do.

Frederik B, Friday, 8 February 2019 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

was it also a "POS thing to do" when mia farrow abused her kids?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 8 February 2019 20:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Difference is, my example was something that actually happened.

Frederik B, Friday, 8 February 2019 21:04 (two months ago) Permalink

let's say he (or anyone) is innocent. What is the non-POS way to proceed?

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:05 (two months ago) Permalink

either don't join in with that particular parlour game or just don't post

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Is that aimed at JD? Because I don't get what it has to do with what I wrote?

Frederik B, Friday, 8 February 2019 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

As far as I can tell the most innocent-seeming way of denying an accusation is to make one statement along the lines of “I didn’t do that. I will not be commenting again.” People who did it tend to belabor the details.

Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Like cf shitbag child rapist ex-mayor of Seattle Ed Murray, who when accused of raping children, instead of just saying “I didn’t rape any children”, got a doctor’s note saying he had no moles on his penis in order to impeach the statement of one of his accusers. Innocent people don’t do that!

Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Is that aimed at JD? Because I don't get what it has to do with what I wrote?

― Frederik B, Friday, February 8, 2019 1:09 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

think harder

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:17 (two months ago) Permalink

After some hard thinking, I'll conclude you can't read.

Frederik B, Friday, 8 February 2019 21:20 (two months ago) Permalink

There have been abuse allegations against mia farrow for years. Doesn’t mean allen is innocent. It just means, as a separate fact, there are abuse allegations against farrow.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 8 February 2019 21:22 (two months ago) Permalink

the most innocent-seeming way of denying an accusation is to make one statement along the lines of “I didn’t do that. I will not be commenting again.”

Allen did this in the NY Times several years ago. Such things have eternal life now, however.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I am going to hang up and listen, bcz i'm not getting drawn into this Celebrity Mentalism shit.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 9, 2019 6:35 AM

there really should be an ILX bookmaker function

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 9, 2019 8:42 AM

The Very Fugly Caterpillar (sic), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:09 (two months ago) Permalink

ok, fuxbye

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:16 (two months ago) Permalink

social media makes it really hard to just accept the epistemological uncertainty here and move on.

would be easier if woody just died or stopped making movies. i guess he'll be forced to do the latter now.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:17 (two months ago) Permalink

Allen is definitely right that Amazon shouldn't be able to break a deal over allegations that were well known at the time, just because people take them more seriously now. That's why you don't hire people like Allen in the first place. One of those dilemmas, if Allen wins 68 millions, it might be tougher for assholes like him to get these types of contracts in the future.

Frederik B, Friday, 8 February 2019 22:31 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, he's probably done making films. social media outrage did what several decades of his films sucking couldn't

The Very Fugly Caterpillar (sic), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:32 (two months ago) Permalink

^ just checked and I've only seen three of his last 15 films, but two of them were bad

(Match Point and Vicky Cristina. Midnight In Paris was ok.)

The Very Fugly Caterpillar (sic), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

I had to review Café Society and fully expected to slaughter it, but Vittorio Storaro's cinematography was very good. So the only Allen-review I ever got to write was positive...

Frederik B, Friday, 8 February 2019 22:49 (two months ago) Permalink

fwiw i believe several of his recent movies have been largely financed by european companies, and certainly several of them have been shot there.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:41 (two months ago) Permalink

But the flagship of his last film, and TV series, was Amazon.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:47 (two months ago) Permalink

sure, but, to get exceedingly pedantic, several of his 21st century films prior to his amazon contract were funded by european concerns and shot in europe. so he's "officially" been a european filmmaker for a while.

though it's probably true that if he keeps making movies in the future, european money will be his only recourse, since it's unlikely he'll find support in the states.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 16:57 (two months ago) Permalink

and the movies will all star Alec Baldwin, Diane Keaton, and Javier Bardem

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:07 (two months ago) Permalink

oh, i'm sure he'll find some european ingenues to make doe eyes at some thinly-veiled, handsomer, slightly younger iteration of himself.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:08 (two months ago) Permalink

slightly younger? with Jesse Eisenberg, he's had to go two generations now.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah that occurred to me. i guess even liam neeson has got to be 15-20 years younger than woody at this point.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:31 (two months ago) Permalink

as opposed to earlier, when liam neeson was merely 10 years younger than woody.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:32 (two months ago) Permalink

if indeed he wasn't always

xp ffs

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:32 (two months ago) Permalink

liam neeson gets younger every year fyi

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:39 (two months ago) Permalink


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