the fulfillment of Reagan. deserves the hottest place in hell.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 February 2012 09:44 (twelve years ago) link
so much better than Obama, tho
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 February 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago) link
does Obama get the second-hottest place plus eternal jock itch?
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Monday, 20 February 2012 09:53 (twelve years ago) link
Clinton's worst policies had so many aiders and abettors that it seems wrong to pour all the blame on his head. The great frustration is that most of these allies were repulsive folks like Phil Gramm. And when the electorate turned in 1994, Bill just grinned, turned with them and paddled with the current.
But, as much as I hated it when it happened and cannot conceive the shallowness it implies, it is true that the electorate turned hard right in sufficient numbers to put a solid right wing majority into Congress. As soon as that happened, shit was bound to follow. Bill was just the Weather Vane in Chief during his second term. All the impeachment stuff later on just shows how freaking insane the nation had become.
― Aimless, Monday, 20 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
most ppl opposed impeachment throughout that whole thing, to the point where right-wing pundits began fretting about the imminent end of western civilization, etc.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 20 February 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
Didion's great "Vichy Washington" is the elegy for that sad era.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
most people were opposed to the impeachment, but an awful lot of the pundit class (and not just the usual right-wing suspects) supported it.
― Puppenmeister Meisterpuppen (Eisbaer), Monday, 20 February 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
USA pundits tend to nurture their sense of profound personal gravitas, and anything that might be construed as condoning the Lewinsky affair would go against that basic instinct.
― Aimless, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's on.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
^^ Sounds like what they would whisper in the halls before a rumble.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
What I figure a gr8080 presidency would look like:
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ht_bill_clinton_porn_stars_lpl_120524_wblog.jpg
― clemenza, Saturday, 26 May 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
Excerpt from Sean Strub's new book on Clinton's lousy AIDS policies:
http://www.salon.com/2014/02/01/bill_clintons_lgbt_shame_where_was_he_then/
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 February 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link
not sure why more than doubling funding for aids/hiv research or more than tripling funding for aids/hiv care or establishing a permanent office of aids research at the nih is 'lousy' but whatever
― balls, Sunday, 2 February 2014 01:53 (ten years ago) link
The Clinton administration sabotaged HIV prevention and treatment efforts in other ways. One concerned intellectual property rights controlling the use of generic medications around the world. Near the end of Clinton’s presidency, we learned from a leaked State Department memo that former vice president Al Gore had exerted pressure on South Africa to rescind legislation allowing use of generic anti-retrovirals at a vastly lower cost, rather than paying U.S. companies their huge markups. Gore’s senior campaign staff included several people who had been lobbyists for the pharmaceutical industry.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 February 2014 04:52 (ten years ago) link
mere bag o' shells to Captain Save-a-Bubbas who can't read, apparently
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 February 2014 06:41 (ten years ago) link
"awesome communicator"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/george-w-bush-bill-clinton-joke-around-like-old-buddies-1.2759571
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
whatever it takes to derail the '16 Express
http://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 January 2015 06:50 (nine years ago) link
Will his tombstone say "Felt your Pain?"
― calstars, Saturday, 28 February 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/13/bill_clintons_odious_presidency_thomas_frank_on_the_real_history_of_the_90s/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 14 March 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link
dud
― hunangarage, Monday, 14 March 2016 05:16 (eight years ago) link
More often than not, the ex-president finds himself staying in hotels with nothing resembling a presidential suite; he typically overnights in Holiday Inn Expresses and Quality Inns. His aides say he's the least prissy member of his small traveling party—caring only that his shower has good water pressure and that the TV has premium cable so that he might watch San Andreas or one of the Fast & Furious movies before he drifts off to sleep. When he wakes, he often makes coffee for himself in his room.
http://www.gq.com/story/bill-clinton-health-trump-and-hillary
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 May 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link
insert hooker joke here
seriously though, Quality Inn is the way to go, Bill OTM there
― ejemplo (crüt), Saturday, 21 May 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link
When he wakes, he often makes coffee for himself in his room.
well who wouldn't
they put it right there
― j., Saturday, 21 May 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link
I never use the in-room coffee machine
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 May 2016 05:29 (seven years ago) link
you're never gonna be president with a prima donna attitude like that
― j., Saturday, 21 May 2016 05:42 (seven years ago) link
whatever it takes to derail the '16 Expresshttp://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, January 23, 2015 1:50 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
They all seem so nice--especially Dershowitz
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 21 May 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link
the inexplicable lib love for him is gonna get a severe test when he gets Trump elected. Hope for a fatal stroke before Labor Day.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/05/politics/bill-clinton-bernie-sanders-protesters/index.html
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link
"inexplicable Dem love for him" you mean. No liberal I know does.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 June 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
Is this where exiles from the vile election thread gather?
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 6 June 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
well, based on the author of the revive, it's where vile exiles of the election thread gather. vexiles, if you will.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
and morbs’s strawman has got to be reaching wicker-man size by now; i’m surprised he can fit it in his brain
― wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
DUD
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link
Saying "blue lives matter" on stage tonight following the mothers who spoke, what a piece of shit.
Did he use that phrase?
― Treeship, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:29 (seven years ago) link
p sure he did, the quote was a little weird and I need to watch it again, but he also made it sound like african american men needed to make cops feel safe, if I heard correctly
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link
directly before that he said something about how African Americans feeling safe from the cops so whatever, give him a pass
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link
Ok, wait sorry he didn't actually use the phrase. He said:
"If you're a young African American disillusioned and afraid, we saw in Dallas how great our police officers can be, help us build a future where no one's afraid to walk outside, including the people who wear blue to protect our future."
Not quite as bad but I still do not like it. There was also some other weird "lives matter" moment but it was another confusing quote, will try to find it.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link
Some CNN panelist afterward was talking about how "important" it was that Bill reminded America that Hilary was once an "object of desire." Felt like this was the worst take of the night.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link
It just came off kind of like he was saying that young African Americans should help make the cops feel safer.
I'm also less inclined to give him a pass on his "lives matter" stuff because of that speech from earlier in the campaign.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:37 (seven years ago) link
He's out of touch, which is why we haven't seen him much on the campaign trail
― Treeship, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link
he's clearly not well
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:41 (seven years ago) link
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/135553/bill-clinton-took-part-dnc-speech-memoir
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link
Bill did his job with that speech to the convention about Hillary. You don't have to like his approach to politics to know he is a master of bringing people along to the mindset he wants them to adopt. His mastery of the tools of rhetoric and oratory are evident to anyone who understands those tools.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link
Lots of backlash from Muslim Americans on Twitter about the 'if you are Muslim and love America and freedom we want you to stay here' comments as well.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 07:34 (seven years ago) link
Yeah that was slippery and gross as well, same as the statement about African Americans but worse
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link
this is not his era. he is a 70 year old center-right politician from arkansas.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link
It felt like he was making these really awkward attempts to signal center-right leaning voters that he has their concerns at heart while also sort of sounding like he was taking the liberal position, and it didn't seem to me like it was working in either direction.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link
is it just me or is "change maker" a really clunky and awful phrase to keep using in a speech?
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link
Not just you. I felt the same way, strongly.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link