i don't care if your fat aunt is white, black, purple
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link
netflix continues to market the hell out of this
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 31 October 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
Sell the controversy...
― nickn, Sunday, 31 October 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link
Can anybody point me to a heartfelt pro-trans show by a huge celebrity on this trash service? Given that’s their defense (that they air a multitude of perspectives etc etc)?
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 31 October 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
Doesn't Orange is the New Black have a major trans character played by Laverne Cox? I mean, fuck Netflix over all this, but she made a big impression, and her character was treated pretty sympathetically, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 October 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
Yeah, Netflix basically gave Cox her career, but she's the only example I can think of.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link
laverne cox is not as famous as Dave Chappelle and wasn’t that like 10 years ago
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 31 October 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link
https://www.disclosurethemovie.com/about
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 31 October 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link
The last episode of OITNB aired in 2019, not that it matters.
There's other stuff with trans characters but not on Laverne's level.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 31 October 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link
Is there any trans character in film/tv/stand-up as famous in America as Dave Chappelle is? That's a tough standard to meet.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 31 October 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link
Ok fair enough! That looks good PK
xxpost It is!
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 31 October 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 November 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link
she is also, contrary to what Chappelle says, a horrible person
― frogbs, Monday, 1 November 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link
Searching Eddie Izzard on Netflix gets you recommendations for Dave Chappelle and Ricky Gervais!
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 1 November 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link
I was trying to avoid Caitlin in my equation because I thought we were talking about fictional characters and/or stand-up comedians? Of course, KUWTK is as fictional as it gets and airs on Hulu rather than Netflix so it's not much of a difference.
I don't think Eddie is anywhere close to Dave's level in the US, although she does have some pretty good film/tv credits (usually male presenting).
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link
Can anyone recommend any good writing on the current Chappelle kerfuffle? I'm looking for something to assign for my students to read next term.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
i thought the j cobb piece i linked upthread was goodhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/11/01/the-power-of-dave-chappelles-comedy-netflix-the-closer
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 November 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link
Parker Molloy: https://www.readthepresentage.com/p/dave-chappelle-transgender
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 November 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link
New from me: In his latest comedy special, Dave Chappelle said his trans friend was hounded into suicide by other trans people. I couldn't find any evidence that it happened. https://t.co/QhKbPsss6E— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) November 17, 2021
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 18 November 2021 07:21 (two years ago) link
guy seems pretty easily triggered
Dave Chappelle made a surprise stop to his former high school this week – and had a heated Q&A session with nearly 600 students about his Netflix special https://t.co/XYnhpCxYTp pic.twitter.com/8f3NTglVpY— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) November 25, 2021
― frogbs, Friday, 26 November 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
One of his worst bits yet
Dave Chappelle personally came to a city council meeting and threatened to remove his $65m dollars of investments from his city if they allowed a developer to move forward with an affordable housing program. The objection wasn't to the build, but the affordable housing component. https://t.co/3ahCy1KqmN pic.twitter.com/l8MTxhhlJ7— grimm (@ExileGrimm) February 9, 2022
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 02:08 (two years ago) link
He should be sliced to bits.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 February 2022 03:48 (two years ago) link
"hmm, don't think I've given people a large enough variety of reasons to hate me yet".
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 February 2022 03:53 (two years ago) link
dudes about to get paid $10,000,000 for a standup special that's 2 jokes and a 50 minute rant about how poverty is a choice
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 04:02 (two years ago) link
and his fan base will grow to include more people that he might be alarmed are part of his fanbase if he actually gave a fuck about that anymore
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 February 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link
2004: "fuck $50 million, my show may be inadvertently harming my own community, and that's more important to me"
2022: "Not in MY backyard!!!!"
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 February 2022 04:04 (two years ago) link
It's just baffling.
― There's A Goots In My House (stevie), Thursday, 10 February 2022 09:37 (two years ago) link
Dave got old.
Rich dudes + weed usually = angry, parano rich a-holeness. Unless they're excellent musicians or something like that.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 10 February 2022 10:01 (two years ago) link
In the replies:
This is completely inaccurate. The objection is they are building it directly in his backyard, taking pictures of his home & using it as a selling point.The PUD presented by Oberer planned for houses starting at $300k and up. Not affordable
torn between having absolutely no good faith left to give Chapelle and being skeptical of twitter news
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 10 February 2022 10:37 (two years ago) link
(ok doing some digging those comments are bs, fuck Chapelle)
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 10 February 2022 10:48 (two years ago) link
It’s amazing how low a person can fall.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 10 February 2022 11:00 (two years ago) link
It's always been weird & gross how much he clearly enjoys being the king of whatever that dumbass small town is that he lives in
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:59 (two years ago) link
"Traffic issues, a lack of parking ..." These are the kinds of BS objections people around here have raised every time a lower or mixed income or mixed use building has gone up over the past few years, and despite these fears never coming to fruition, afaict, they keep getting raised again and again.
On the other hand, calling $300k (reported starting price) homes "affordable housing" is a pretty big stretch. Maybe more affordable for *that* affluent exurb ... Anyway, Chappelle has burned through any benefit of the doubt - that's what being a professional asshole will get you - but I've yet to see a news story on this that delved deeper than clickbait cut-n-paste "Chappelle doesn't like poor people" headlines. From what I understand his main objection was not the idea of "affordable" housing but housing designed to attract more people like *him*, people with money that want to move or retire to a quaint blue town (pop. 4000) about 30 minutes outside of friggin' *Dayton* in the middle of red Ohio. And afaict, the development (single family homes) is still going forward, just in line with what had previously been agreed to rather than a more ambitious cash grab of duplexes and townhouses couched as "affordable housing." Like, I don't think we're talking Section 8 here.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:11 (two years ago) link
Am I mishearing him in that lil speech or is he basically saying "I'm worth more than the developer company so you better side with me"?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link
thats what i got, too.
i dunno, ime people on chappelle's level dont make a massive distinction btw "section 8" and $300k home people
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link
Dave's concern trolling of "guys this isn't really AFFORDABLE HOUSING" isn't cute
― he's very big in the region of my butthole (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:24 (two years ago) link
The rest of the development is going ahead, just not the affordable housing part. The houses going up are $300k not the proposed affordable ones.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:30 (two years ago) link
Where did you see a proposed price on the "affordable" homes that got scuttled? Because I haven't seen that. (Not saying you're not right, just reemphasizing that I have seen very little actual reporting on this story).
Anyway, Chappelle is an asshole, but we're not talking Jimmy Carter coming in to hammer nails. This is a developer in a affluent and appealing exurb that wanted to change the zoning to allow them to build (and sell) significantly more smaller (but not really much cheaper, again, afaict) houses to take advantage of a booming market. This is how they roll. They symbolically dangle out the prospect of affordable housing (and I think I did see they all but literally did this in the plan, offering a plot of land that could *potentially* be used by the town for affordable housing at some undetermined point in the future) while making bank off the bigger lots/homes.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link
I didn’t see a number on the affordable ones but the 150 single family homes are the $300k ones. That would, by necessity, make the cancelled affordable homes less than $300k.
Developer cynicism is correct but irrelevant here. The entire project didn’t get cancelled, just the townhomes/condos. The developer dangled affordable living and Dave & Co. got mad that the village council might make them a reality.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link
significantly more smaller (but not really much cheaper, again, afaict)
Probably a topic for another thread, but: a combination of economy of scale and some baseline necessities means that smaller houses are not proportionally cheaper. If it has to have plumbing and electricity and hvac and a kitchen it's going to cost a chonk to build. Adding square footage is more costly but it's not linear. It may be the case that a 3,000 sq ft house costs twice what a 1,500 sq ft house costs, but other factors are at play.
In my neighborhood there is a tax structure that incentivizes developers to set aside x percent of units as "affordable" so that x percent can be market-rate. But the housing is (or supposed to be) all constructed at the same time by the same developer, comparable in quality, and all up to code. hence
offering a plot of land that could *potentially* be used by the town for affordable housing at some undetermined point in the future
is a bullshit move
― imam and apple pie (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link
Yeah. So this is the only close to reported story I've seen on this:
https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/video-yellow-springs-votes-no-on-housing-plan-after-chappelle-others-speak-up/WFSD7UXAYVECLOFCZPWU4IV4FE/
If I read the proposal right, the original plan was 143 single family homes, but the abandoned plan divided those homes between single-family and duplexes/townhomes, starting at mid-$200k (categorized as "high & moderate-income for sale + affordable types"), with, yes, "donated land for affordable housing."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:50 (two years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:12 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
josh bringing the NIMBY solidarity
― flopson, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
even putting the affordable housing issue aside, it’s good to build houses in rich exurbs and bad when rich incumbent homeowners abuse the political process to stop it
― flopson, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link
All I know is that I drove through this part of Ohio over the summer and ... they can have it.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 19:19 (two years ago) link
Crikeyhttps://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-05-04/dave-chapelle-tackled-during-hollywood-bowl-comedy-show
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link
"Getting tackled by guy with knife" is pretty cutting edge.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link
I'm sure everybody will rush to blame Will Smith, who was the first person ever to attack or heckle a comedian in history
― Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 16:34 (two years ago) link
Well, I guess his martyr complex about being a besieged beacon of free speech or whatever will now be turned to solid stone.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link