reccomend a soliloquy from shakespeare to me

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because I would like to perform one for family and friends

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 04:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

there's this great one in hamlet

John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 05:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

today I read polonius's speech to laertes out loud twice. it was very satisfying.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 05:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

shakespeare had a bit of a way with words I think.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 05:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

edmund's opening speech in king lear (you know, "stand up for bastards!") is hard to beat.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 06:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I kid you not, reciting Shakespeare is the easiest way to get admiration and love from all sorts of people, as well as getting cute brainy grrrls to fancy you. I have three bits of Shakespeare in my arsenal, ready to deploy at 45 seconds' notice:

1) The "To Be or Not to Be" bit in Hamlet. Good to show off - not much for anything else, although you do get to do a bit of acting, which always goes down well.

2) The intro of "Romeo and Juliet" - "Two households, both alike in dignity etc etc". Great for showing your sensitive side, and most everyone knows it as well. Also good for acting.

3) One of the sonnets (don't know which number) that starts "Not marble, not the guilded monuments of princes/ Shall outlive this powerful rhyme/ But you shall shine more bright in these contents/ Than unswept stone besmeared with sluttish time." As I say, this sonnet has delivered results many a time for me.

Mind you, for family and friends, you wanna give something a bit more stirring. Richard "Back onto the breach, dear friends" III anyone?

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 06:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Johnney, if that's true, then people have awful taste.

I suggest something from The Tempest, maybe Prospero's epilogue.

people like Leee = y'know... whitey (Leee), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 06:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

go apeshit and do a monologue from tom stoppard's Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead. The one about the hawk and the handsaw.

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 07:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

soliloquy is one of those words that never looks spelt rite

jackson anderville, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 07:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Whitey (I assume that's your moniker) - yes it is true, and yes, they do.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 08:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Johnney, where do you live?

Le Coq, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 08:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Tempest seconded. I actually got to play Prospero, and it's a great speech to do. Henry V is only any good if you're drunk.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 08:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oxford . . . why?

Johnney B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 09:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 09:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

don't let the haters get you down johnney, I'm very impressed. looking for something a little more off the beaten path than "to be or not to be," as awesome as it is. I was thinking maybe something from richard iii though!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 16:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i suppose the chick speeches wouldn't do?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 16:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"once more unto the breach dear friends" is from Henry V, not Richard III.

However, you could impress the ladies using Richard III with the charming "I can smile, and murder while I smile, and set the murderous Machiavel to school", however.

pulpo, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 16:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

however....

pulpo, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 16:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i did a bang up "out, out brief candle. life is but a walking shadow, a poor player who struts and frets etc..." in 11th grade. the class carried me out on their shoulders an shit.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

also: i'm gonna be doing this for a talent show we're putting on for my friend's birthday. so anything birthday/aging related would also be good.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and yeah sure i'd do a chick one! hell that's how they were originally done anyway right? (ie by dudes)

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

(i know that was an innapropriate use of "ie")

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

anything birthday/aging related would also be good.

"all the world's a stage" from as you like it would probably be your best bet.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 19:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Do Lady Macbeth going "come you demons and unsex me now" or similar.

isadora (isadora), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 19:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

so i could see my family and friends slowly back away and then bolt out of the room?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 19:55 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It is one of the two girl ones I know. The other is Viola (dressed as a guy) saying "I left no ring with her, what means this lady?" etc

isadora (isadora), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

sonnet 29 is pretty popular; "life is shit but yr great"

WHEN in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope, 5
Featur’d like him, like him with friends possess’d,
Desiring this man’s art, and that man’s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee,—and then my state, 10
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
For thy sweet love remember’d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, a lot of the sonnets are about aging and ting . You could string a couple together if fourteen lines is too short for you. Apart from the famous ones (the one geoff mentions; "shall I compare thee to a summer's day" "when to the sessions of sweet silent thought," "let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediment") I like this one:

As an unperfect actor on the stage,
Who with his fear is put beside his part,
Or some fierce thing replete with too much rage,
Whose strength's abundance weakens his own heart;
So I, for fear of trust, forget to say
The perfect ceremony of love's rite,
And in mine own love's strength seem to decay,
O'ercharg'd with burden of mine own love's might.
O! let my looks be then the eloquence
And dumb presagers of my speaking breast,
Who plead for love, and look for recompense,
More than that tongue that more hath more express'd.
O! learn to read what silent love hath writ:
To hear with eyes belongs to love's fine wit.

And a couple inna "wedding toast" style:

Some say thy fault is youth, some wantonness;
Some say thy grace is youth and gentle sport;
Both grace and faults are lov'd of more and less:
Thou mak'st faults graces that to thee resort.
As on the finger of a throned queen
The basest jewel will be well esteem'd,
So are those errors that in thee are seen
To truths translated, and for true things deem'd.
How many lambs might the stern wolf betray,
If like a lamb he could his looks translate!
How many gazers mightst thou lead away,
If thou wouldst use the strength of all thy state!
But do not so; I love thee in such sort,
As, thou being mine, mine is thy good report.

In faith I do not love thee with mine eyes,
For they in thee a thousand errors note;
But 'tis my heart that loves what they despise,
Who, in despite of view, is pleased to dote.
Nor are mine ears with thy tongue's tune delighted;
Nor tender feeling, to base touches prone,
Nor taste, nor smell, desire to be invited
To any sensual feast with thee alone:
But my five wits nor my five senses can
Dissuade one foolish heart from serving thee,
Who leaves unswayed the likeness of a man,
Thy proud heart's slave and vassal wretch to be:
Only my plague thus far I count my gain,
That she that makes me sin awards me pain.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

From V.1. of Tempest:

And thence retire me to my Milan, where
Every third thought shall be my grave.

I don't know if that's the sort of thing on aging to be the thing.

people like Leee = y'know... whitey (Leee), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 03:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"His cocks do win the battle still of mine,
When it is all to nought; and his quails ever
Beat mine, inhoop'd, at odds" - anthony & cleopatra

pulpo, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 13:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
this is supposed to be tonite! i couldn't find one so i'm going to sing aerosmith's "i don't want to miss a thing" instead

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

do foreigner's 'i wanna know what love is' instead.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Freebird!

Leee the Lee (Leee), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eight years pass...

anyone versed in the sonnets? i need to use one for college, i'm obviously delving through myself, but curious if people have any favourites?

Ballboy to Afghanistan (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

What purpose will this sonnet be put to once you have chosen it? Recitation aloud? Critical deconstruction? Some of the more obscure ones would be fun to break down and discuss, but pure torture to recite.

Aimless, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Recitation but it's the voice training side of the diploma I'm doing, obviously it's an acting class so it'll be acted too. I was thinking about this one but I'm still browsing really: http://www.shakespeares-sonnets.com/sonnet/132

Ballboy to Afghanistan (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:23 (six years ago) Permalink

143 has very homely imagery and contrasts quite starkly with the high flown verbage of most of the sonnets. 113 is both psychologically sound and imaginative, but has some ugly metrical flaws.

But if you want a sonnet where he hits his full magnificent stride then "When out of favour with Fortune and men's eyes" is the top dog imo.

Aimless, Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:33 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah that one is kind of a bullseye alright :)

Ballboy to Afghanistan (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:37 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, I think most of the dozen or so top anthology pieces have their place for a reason - they work taken out of the sequence, they're incredibly rhetorically involving, are sonically astonishing & have depth without being baffling. 129 used to be my favourite of them, but I think that ranking is still tied tied up with adolescent self-loathing. Let me get some numbers for other favourites… 53, 60, 87, 146.

It's just an astonishing collection of poems though, just so resiliently strange; and not 16th-century strange, its own whole world of strange.

I've prob said this somewhere else, but Don Paterson's book on them is the best work of poetry criticism I've read in an age – has done 'the reading' but then is just bouncing around between thinking about love, & rhetoric and reading them as a (fine) working poet himself, and getting sucked into sequence-narratives while trying to resist them. Really masterful combo of close reading & worldliness. If you only read one book on the sonnets, etc…

woof, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:05 (six years ago) Permalink

On the Garbage thread we lauded precision. I can think of few sonnets as perfectly engineered as the sonnets.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 February 2013 00:10 (six years ago) Permalink

idk, I think there's a lot of shonky work in there. I mean (just to take the trad criticism) he blows the couplet with such regularity! Slips into cheese or platitude or a tortuous rhyme. I am cheering for him when he actually pulls off a final one-two. But I think the up-and-down-ness is the delight of it - he's in this intense psychological world that basically no-one else is worrying at round then, and is finding forms & a language for it, & sometimes getting lost, & sometimes hitting the basic renaissance toolkit, & sometimes just doing the numbers - but there isn't an achievement like it, both read at length & for those poems where he absolutely nails it.

woof, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:25 (six years ago) Permalink

that sonnets site is my dad's btw. #1 google result! design by yrs truly! (including shoddy overflowing text and adverts)

ledge, Friday, 8 February 2013 09:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Cool! It's a really great site - I hadn't really looked on the web before, so had never seen it - so much stuff (& nice design – clean, I can find things!) Barnes is there! I've never read Barnes, that's my morning sorted.

woof, Friday, 8 February 2013 10:13 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Ian McKellen talking about this Macbeth soliloquy is like - I'm maybe in it 25% for his insights, and 75% for the man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGbZCgHQ9m8

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Monday, 13 May 2019 03:14 (one week ago) Permalink


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