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is it really going to be dismantled?

D Aziz (esquire1983), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Fox is buying it, I think.

andy, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

finally a FAIR and BALANCED view

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Both the BBC and Freaky Trigger websites have been unavailable for the last hour. I think this is clearly ominous.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

that's not true

run it off (run it off), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, it's back now.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link

is any of this true?

run it off (run it off), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

What - you mean is the BBC being dismantled or have I been unable to access the BBC and FT for the last hour?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

the BBC being dismantled...

run it off (run it off), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, they're probably making changes to the corporate governance. I don't really equate that with dismantling, so no.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

probably?

run it off (run it off), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Well that's the impression I've got. I don't think many people think the current system of governors is that great. Maybe I'm wrong - I haven't been following it that closely - you probably know as much as me. I'll shut up now.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Sheffield people will be familiar with the term

Blades Business Crew

Serious sheffield united hooligans

.....................strike me down..............

dddfdanon, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Ipswich people will be familair with the term

Ipswich Total Violence

(OK, I made that up and in fact when we supposedly had a "firm" they decided to call themselves The Spanners, why they did is anyone's guess)

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

BBC blamed for attacks on Poles

Tom D., Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf @ that guy

Just got offed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Tories, eh?

Tom D., Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Sub-Passantino at best

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link

At 6 feet 8½ inches (204 cm), Kawczynski is believed to be the tallest MP ever to sit in the Parliament of the United Kingdom.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:19 (fourteen years ago) link

But the average height of doors in Westminster is six feet eight and now he wants ministers to take account of an increasingly tall UK population.

"Being officially a giant myself... you want to raise things which pertain to yourself and people like you," he said.

ISSUES4U

Just got offed, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Also I'm sure he said all this a couple of months ago somewhere else. Why has it come up again now?

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, yes, in the Independent.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link

He'll be blaming the BBC for attacks on giants next

Tom D., Wednesday, 4 June 2008 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd guess he has a point if he's talking about Tory voters mouthing off on the mid-morning phone-ins on local stations like BBC Radio Shropshire etc.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Conservative Friends of Poland

Like Neville Chamberlain, he means?

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty sure it's mostly Channel 4 running the anti-Polish stuff. But it is tricky spotting the difference between Panorama and the Völkischer Beobachter most weeks.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

EXCLUSIVE: Max Mosley confirmed as new Panorama presenter.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

A step too far, this is causing as much kerfuffle as when the moved women's hour.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Friday, 12 June 2009 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/14/ben-bradshaw-bbc-management

the bbc does seem amazingly inept at covering its arse. it is kind of a symptom of a wider elite-class self-aggrandizement that the likes of byford and thompson think they deserve mad money, but it's still going to come back to bite them.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link

beeb has kind of an impossible job in dealing with its critics, since they simultaneously claim the licence fee isn't justified because the bbc isn't populist enough and that it isn't justified because it doesn't provide enough specialised content that the commercial sector won't touch. i can't see that sharing the licence fee does anything to help except spreading it thinner.

agree that bbc bosses don't help the cause though.

joe, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 09:42 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

is it really going to be dismantled?
― D Aziz (esquire1983), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:03 (5 years ago)

Possibly, if - when - the Tories get in.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/19/wed-abolish-bbc-trust-hunt

DavidM, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Has to be a troll:

Pay per view BBC news would allow the lefties to view their own biased news reports while the rest of us could choose ITV news for more impartial reporting.

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

this business about "damaging commercial competitors" really pisses me off. we should be celebrating the fact that the BBC creates quality products and services for "free", not requiring it to dumb down its offerings so that something inferior and expensive can maintain market share.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Whenever that comment is made, it is usually voiced by someone with vested interests eg. Murdoch. In America, Murdoch goes after Obama but here he goes after impartial news media. This should be a good compass for anyone wishing to locate the centre of power in any given country. Who does Murdoch go after in, say, China?

Yo! GOP Raps (suzy), Monday, 19 October 2009 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, you do wonder whether this is the quid for the quo of The Sun's support.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

tories don't need any outside encouragement to go after the bbc, tbh.

joe, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

So is the Mail anti-Beeb purely because of DMGT's regional newspapers? Or is there something else, aside from Jonathan Ross and the telly tax?

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link

it's ideological - the bbc is full of lefties.

joe, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

not only that, the whole concept of the BBC is lefty.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link

and yet they've employed Jeremy Clarkson, Carol Thatcher, Michael Burke, Patrick Moore (latter two mentioned just due to sexist comments made in past)...

modescalator (blueski), Monday, 19 October 2009 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Patrick Moore is very right-wing on immigration too, unfortunately.

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

and yet they've employed Jeremy Clarkson, Carol Thatcher, Michael Burke, Patrick Moore (latter two mentioned just due to sexist comments made in past)...

... and Andrew Neil and Michael Portillo and Nick Robinson and Quentin Letts ad nauseum

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Michael Buerk is a Conservative?

Yo! GOP Raps (suzy), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Only when it comes to the BBC employing women, I think... women who get jobs he wants, that is

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

sexist, conservative, racist - all the same

tomofthenest, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Regardless of how many sexist conservative racist rightwingers are employed there, the very existence of the BBC as a huge part of the media landscape is a slap in the face to Tory free market ideals, so obviously they want to pare it back. I don't think it's all about Murdoch.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 19 October 2009 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

In my own experience, sexism is not limited to conservative men!

Yo! GOP Raps (suzy), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL, far from it!

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Monday, 19 October 2009 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno if there's a word for the kind of lightweight talk radio DJs that take up way too much air time on 5 Live and presumably other stations, where the show is just blathering about fuck all interspersed with no mark media celebs and unfunny anecdotes and humblebrags from the listeners

example: Scott Mills and Chris Clark, Laura Whitmore, god knows how many more

anyway, what the fuck is that about? does any sentient being enjoy this shit?

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 July 2022 08:18 (five months ago) link

Chris Stark, not Clark

Stark and Mills have been on Radio 1 in the afternoon for more than 10 years. this autumn they’re moving to Radio 2. A lot of people like them. It’s extremely “LadBible” radio.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 July 2022 09:11 (five months ago) link

Actual soccer coverage and discussion on 5live is now also suffused with "Banter" in a way it was not in the days of Mike Ingham.

I dislike it greatly, though I have a higher threshold for Chris Sutton than some do - finding him, in his way and on his day, quite shrewd and dry.

the pinefox, Saturday, 2 July 2022 09:22 (five months ago) link

Sutton and Savage are as bad as each other, playing the Talk Sport controvery trolling games

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 July 2022 10:49 (five months ago) link

Savage has made 606 (which was already bad) completely unbearable. I remember about 13 years ago when he first co-presented it with Neil Warnock and he was so awful I thought he'd never get invited back again.

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 10:56 (five months ago) link

Savage is an utter moron, which Sutton isn't. Both unbearable, of course.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 July 2022 10:56 (five months ago) link

I haven't listened to it in ages but World Football Phone-In used to great, mainly because Tim Vickery is intelligent and very knowledgeable rather than fucking trying to kill us all with bantz

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:04 (five months ago) link

Dotun Adebayo is quite annoying though, but not enough to ruin the show

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:14 (five months ago) link

i am annoyed at the bbc because i went to watch the final of sewing bee on the pvr and got an hour of tennis instead. because 14 hours of tennis on one day isn't enough.

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:31 (five months ago) link

Sutton is bad on 606 and plays a very bad role of trying to provoke people, with Savage, who is dire.

But Sutton on other programmes presents a somewhat different persona. In World Cup 2018 he even had a schtick of learning facts about the cultural history of Russian cities.

the pinefox, Saturday, 2 July 2022 15:35 (five months ago) link

Vickery is good in various ways. Think he is, oddly, a THFC fan, and also some kind of socialist.

the pinefox, Saturday, 2 July 2022 15:36 (five months ago) link

He probably is a socialist because he grew up in Hemel Hampstead! Andy Brassell is decent as well, but he's another one who offers thoughtful observations rather than idiotic controversy and banter. The cricket coverage on 5 live is pretty good, but with football they feel like they need to do it *this* way.

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:27 (five months ago) link

another very fine Spurs fan being interview by Nick Robinson on R4 at the moment. joking obv

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:33 (five months ago) link

Brassell is a Wimbledon fan, who are a much more likable club than Spurs!

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:38 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Best of BBC iPlayer

Young Brits selling Dubai real estate

DUBAI HUSTLE

A career change with a difference...

ROOKIE COPS

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 07:36 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just reading this piece (by Robin) on Tim Westwood but managing to touch much else.

https://shirazsocialism.wordpress.com/2022/07/31/tim-westwood-how-should-the-left-respond/

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:35 (four months ago) link

Somewhat baffled by the reference to Tony Blackburn, who sounds exactly like what he is, an ex-public schoolboy who is a professional radio DJ, and always has done

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Monday, 1 August 2022 13:51 (four months ago) link

Actually John Peel is a much better comparison, with the manufactured accent and the somewhat dubious sexual history.

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Monday, 1 August 2022 14:02 (four months ago) link

Well the comparison to Blackburn is to do with the pushing of a strand of black music, and the early career in pirate stations but I get that it isn't a perfect fit.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 August 2022 20:42 (four months ago) link

What I must say to the mans and dems is the thing about the Westwood after party is the ladies

Westwood was more like Savile in the sense he seemed to be constantly in public confession mode, but in that bizarre posh English cunt pretending to be a homeboy from the projects syntax. But how the fuck did this cunt last so long? I grew up with white people who talked a bit like him. But they were mostly from a council estate parts that were like 30-40 % afro-caribbean and some of them only looked white but were part of extended black families or the kind of people who might just knock you out if you start talking about cultural appropriation to them! But this wanker got a free pass not just from the bbc, but from the UK black communities, from UK/US rap artists ... just how the fuck did he manage to pull this act off for so long - even before it came out he was a predatory paedophile.

calzino, Monday, 1 August 2022 21:19 (four months ago) link

That is such a weird article: it’s like someone mostly mastered the cultural tools and framework for making a reasoned long-form argument, but uses them to veer off into the strangest tangents, and take in personal long-standing assumptions, arguments and grievances that the author has had over the years.

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 1 August 2022 21:49 (four months ago) link

3/10 - please try again, and do not deviate from the exam question set by calzino just above.

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 1 August 2022 22:15 (four months ago) link

sorry but I can barely answer exam questions, never mind ask them! But I'm a whizz at quick crosswords and kakuru

calzino, Monday, 1 August 2022 22:30 (four months ago) link

radio 4 killing me with their trailers. especially the one for a mindfulness podcast which features some woman with a nails down chalkboard voice inducing in me the very opposite feeling to mindfulness.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 19:28 (four months ago) link

if it's the same voice I'm thinking of it's how I imagine Laura Barton would sound like when talking about borrowing a friend's 2nd/3rd home in the lake district for a few weeks to go on an inner journey of self-discovery only to find she had everything she ever wanted at her posh flat in London.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 19:48 (four months ago) link

wait isn't that like 80 percent of Radio 4 voices?

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:38 (four months ago) link

absolutely is, but when promoting mindfulness in that voice there should be a trigger warning for people who might have a raging predisposition for class war!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:56 (four months ago) link

i think they just dose us with Ian McMillan in case of emergency

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:58 (four months ago) link

I fucking hate that Barnsley twat as well!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:59 (four months ago) link

even more tbh

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:00 (four months ago) link

90% of people in Barnsley don't even talk like that cunt

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:01 (four months ago) link

I once worked somewhere with a Barnsley twat with an affected accent like him and this other Barnsley person assured me it's 90% affected and pure bullshit.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:05 (four months ago) link

I'd forgotten that guy existed tbh.

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:08 (four months ago) link

lol i love you calz

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:09 (four months ago) link

I heard him on the radio t'other day praising Sonny Rollins and i was SHOUTING back: fuck off cunt! You aren't permitted to like good people when you have a fake accent!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:09 (four months ago) link

he was the hired speaker at our end of year college rally once, alls i can say it was a refreshing break from the cunts with powerpoints

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:11 (four months ago) link

Emily...you are still a Tory...but thank you for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/aug/24/emily-maitlis-says-active-tory-party-agent-shaping-bbc-news-output?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 19:01 (three months ago) link

On Friday night HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU? will run a special programme called HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR BORIS: A SPECIAL TRIBUTE.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2022 09:38 (three months ago) link

there has also been a weekly saturday R4 program on Boris throughout this month and the only thing that has me changing stations faster is The Archers.

calzino, Monday, 29 August 2022 09:52 (three months ago) link

the title is so fucking chummy. encapsulates how the BBC has viewed him for over a decade. wot laughs ho ho.

oscar bravo, Monday, 29 August 2022 10:04 (three months ago) link

just the whole refer to him by his first name is such special treatment. don't remember a Teresa edition of this satirical program i haven't watched for decades.

oscar bravo, Monday, 29 August 2022 10:06 (three months ago) link

Jokes about him being an oversexed skirtchaser who couldn't keep it in his trousers were especially favoured iirc.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Monday, 29 August 2022 10:12 (three months ago) link

He owes the BBC a lot.

nashwan, Monday, 29 August 2022 10:30 (three months ago) link

Please retweet

I'd like to apologise for earlier tweets (now deleted) responding to Gary Lineker. I should have shown more consideration to a BBC colleague - as per the BBC’s social media guidelines.

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) August 30, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:32 (three months ago) link

Maitlis is a long way from being a Tory. xps

lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:56 (three months ago) link

if you're gonna tell us she's a Blairite, that isn't a long way

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:14 (three months ago) link

she was effectively a Tory campaigner during the Corbyn era, if she's deeply fallen out with them as a career option recently then I don't applaud this. Saying Maitlis isn't Tory is like saying Lineker or G Neville aren't Tories, without explaining what differentiates them from Tories (other they they pretend to be nice) then it's a dubious statement to post.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 21:03 (three months ago) link

She’s a little bit terfy IIRC.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 21:14 (three months ago) link

She's going that way, yes.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 21:18 (three months ago) link


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