Coffee

Oh no

*chef’s kiss*

i am having the same experience as man alive. i believe it's mostly due to work changes but my level of activity is way down generally and i don't get tired from everyday things like i used to. i didn't realize the relationship between that and my physical reaction to coffee; in my mind the arrow only went in one direction before (drink coffee-->feel more awake, not feel awake-->can't drink more coffee). i used to have a fairly active/v. exhausting job and would drink 2 large cups of coffee in the am and then sometimes have some during the day. now i have one normal-sized cup and if i have any more i get jittery and sweaty. what i am most intrigued by is that i'm not conscious of being significantly less tired. i feel as tired as usual but coffee is able to get to something hidden in your brain and it knows when you need it ooooOOOOOooooo

Same here, I've gone to putting half decaf/half reg in my coffee maker. Much better in terms of jitters but obviously the taste suffers.

the human mind/body is a mysterious and complex thingy

im drinking a cold brew coffee

if i have a cup of cof after, say 4pm, it puts me RIGHT to sleep. cannot raise my head. then i wake up feeling refreshed. wonderdrug.

damn

it's like it knows what i want

scientists must immediately dissect and study Tracer Hand imo

all praise the good bean

probably dumb and condescending suggestion but maybe take a look at the size of yr. cups?

8 oz coffee is ~ 100mg caffeine
2 oz espresso is ~ 120 mg caffeine

american mugs are stupid big and people fill 'em to like a hair from the brim, so they're usually drinking 16+ oz at a time, like ~ 200mg+/serving and that is actually an ass-ton of jitters.

use 6 or 8 oz cups and u will be happier, also the coffee stays hotter and u can feel accomplished at finishing them.

I like these: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/152655689071-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

U could even line up a row of commemorative shot glasses and pour an ounce in each and feel like a giant

yeah for sure my cups are huge--i'm just talking comparatively. my mug is 16 oz. i used to be able to comfortably consume 2 of them in a morning, which yeah is a lot and i'm not sad that i can't anymore.

nice cups xp

I’m drinking coffee

I've also experienced the coffee jitters for the first time - quite physically unpleasant. I suspect it's at least partly because I'm not moving around nearly as much as usual.

I don't feel I can get the day properly underway unless I've had 2 mugs of coffee in the morning, but I should probably cut down the several nespressos I'm having during the day (mainly through boredom and an excuse to take a short break from work).

One awesome day in DC I was jetlagged and hungover, walking to a conference, I stopped to buy a panini (which was great) and when I ordered an espresso the person serving me asked if I wanted small/medium/large, so I said "large" thinking it would be a double shot. To my delight she then grabbed a large cup and fired SEVEN shots in, filling it. The rest of the day was perfect.

I found by age 40 that coffee would cause me not to sleep very well if I drank it after about noon and also caused me to have to urinate a lot. /oldman

I basically quit drinking it a number of years ago, other than the odd cup on the weekend or after a meal. When I did drink it, I really noticed how much more wired I felt; after two cups, unpleasantly so.

Since coronavirus I am working from home and I've picked the habit back up because my wife has been making it every morning. At least we've been buying better coffee from a friend who owns a local roaster. We also bought a burr grinder and have been making a small french press with single origin light roasts and it's great.

My recommendation is basically to buy better coffee and drink less.

otm good advice for food too

Yeah, that's the conclusion I reached. It's really hard to fight that urge to go get another cup just out of boredom, but I'm doing my best. I already feel myself on the edge of the anxiety state but not there, so that's reminding me not to drink any more.

Yes otm. A stupid elaborate coffee-making process helps prevent a second cup as well.

im on my second glass of cold brew but i was feeling tired, might not have made this batch that strong

Thinking I need to get myself a single-cup drip again -- I've been using a drip maker lately for reasons not worth explaining but it leads to coffee waste.

otm good advice for food too

and wine

People think I’m nuts for grinding each cup I make myself, but really it’s about using my own laziness to keep myself in check. Any time I have free access to those pod things I will drink 10 cups without a thought.

Two pint glasses of cold brew in the afternoon for a daily treat.

Apologies for getting TMI but the other coffee problem I have is with it staining my teeth. When I was a smoker and drank coffee I had this problem all the time, but I quit smoking 8 years ago and when I quit drinking coffee mostly the staining problem went away entirely. I looked in the mirror the other day and noticed it was back after just 4 months of drinking 1-2 small cups of coffee per day.

that's about the least TMI thing I can think of if you're talking about the effects of coffee

yeah was sure it was gonna be about poo

DRINKING BLACK COFFEE
BLACK COFFEE
DRINKING BLACK COFFEE
POOPIN MY PANTS

yeah was sure it was gonna be about poo

*stifles giggles*

ANYWAY

Fell into a James Hoffmann video fugue state today. I am tempted by the 9Barista, it seems like such a brilliant, gorgeous design and it would be cool to brew actual espresso, but it's 10x what my Aeropress cost. The next interesting-looking machine (the Decent Espresso) is another order of magnitude jump.

My main takeaway from today is I should upgrade my grinder. (Later I'll practice saying "of course, the grinder is more important than the coffeemaker" into a mirror.) The Knock Aergrind seems like the entry-level audiophile choice here, and is, of course, out of stock.

dont get a hand grinder man lol just buy yrself a capresso infinity

i stopped going out for coffee during the early lockdown and resurrected my espresso stuff. i'm just rolling with a baratza encore and the ancient breville cafe roma my wife bought me for xmas in like our second year of dating (so a very long time ago), and figuring ignorance is bliss if i can make a drinkable espresso and don't look at pricey gear.

9Barista is £295 for a STOVETOP espresso? GTFO. Just buy a used Gaggia Classic, every morning I make a grind and brew an espresso of such good quality I'd happily pay for it.

man if that's how you feel do not look up the price of the decent espresso

xps

Apparently you can upgrade that Encore with the burr (the M2) from the more expensive Virtuoso grinder for like $30 for a more consistent grind.

Thinking about buying an Encore and doing that upgrade myself. But according to nerds, it still can't really grind for espresso, and I do a fine grind + fast brew method with the Aeropress. Plus I might spring for a 9Barista one day. Or, sure, maybe a Gaggia :p

JFC what is all this shit -- stovetop pro espresso? Hand grinders? $2800 ipad espresso machines?

If I was gonna spend $400 on a stovetop machine I'd probably just spend $300 more and get a rancilio silvia, or maybe a breville or something like that for $500. And Capresso Infinity is the only non-barista-grade grinder endorsed by this thread.

Also one thing that seems annoying about the 9Barista is that you have to make one shot at a time and then start over, so if you have company it's probably like another 5-7 minutes to make each additional shot. TBF my La Pavoni was also not great in that regard (required a lot of cleaning/prep in between shots and the water tank was small).

If I'm putting in effort to make a tiny amount of coffee, I'm just going Turkish.

I don't get a lot of company over these days for some reason. And the 9Barista is actually supposed to produce a decent shot! I dunno I'll look at the others.

But I do need a better grinder and ilx's recommendation seems ... a little behind the times.

how dare u

https://dailycoffeenews.com/2020/02/13/9barista-ushers-in-a-new-generation-of-actual-stovetop-espresso/9barista-coffee-pot-exploded-view/

Cleaning a $30 Moka pot is bad enough, fuck this thing.

There was an actual manual espresso machine (pour water from kettle into top then plunge, no electricity needed that would be 100 times more reasonable than the 9Barista

bruh it's called the infinity it' good forever

i got the capresso infinity a couple months ago on this thread's recommendation and i love it. it makes infinity mess though.

not counting the times i ran it without the cup thing under the grinder because attention deficits