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So how important is coffee to you?

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

You really ARE the ILE equivalent of the Metro free newspaper, ace.

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I tried it when I was a kid and thought it was the vilest substance on earth and vowed never to touch it again. Then. when I was about 17, i had a school project which involved staying up half the night to complete it, so I drank black coffeee to keep me awake. During my student days coffee became more or less essential. This was the way it stayed until a few weeks ago when I began to experience really extreme pains in my lower gut which the doctor diagnosed and irregular, involuntary spasms in my colon. I;'ve stayed off the cofee ever since. I thought that I would suffer really bad withdrawal symptoms but have actually found it quite bearable to avoid coffee. Now, when I would've had a cup of coffee I have a glass of water instead.

MarkH, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Coffee = gut pain and the shakes for me, so it is very important in the sense that it is vital I avoid it.

RickyT, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thought I had sworn it off 4-evah, became sadly addicted again about 6 weeks ago.

Nicole, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah the shakes are part of the FUN. Although I must beware of morning coffee, especially fellow ILE-ers who make extremely good morning coffee, as it starts me off on the road to COFFEE MADNESS. Leading to me feeling very sick therefore having to eat something leading to drinking more coffee leading to the TWITCHING AND THE hyperdrive sequence (commence, hit it Pinback)!

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Coffee is one of the joys of my existence, only it is difficult to get a nice flat white round here.

A friend of mine got a job in Starbucks in the US once, and she said that iced coffee over there was just coffee poured over ice. Is that true? Here it involves ice cream and other stuff

Menelaus Darcy, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes that's true. When you involve ice cream and stuff it becomes a milk shake.

Samantha, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Iced coffee American style: crushed ice, coffee, milk. Maybe sugar.

Iced coffee everywhere else is a frappe: cream, crushed ice, sugar, coffee.

Ice cream in coffee is a milkshake, only if you BLEND it.

suzy, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I would suck the ass of a bleeding camel if i knew it had coffee in it.

Geoff, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm drinking coffee right now. my day off so far has been unproductive. I got up at 2 and had a horrible greasy lunch where my friend works. I dont have the car today cos my brother took it so I'm stranded. I was going to get the bus to college but I'm lazy. Its been a hectic week and I'm now rambling on.......

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Geoff, that's officially the most disgusting thing I ever heard.

I drink at least one cup of coffee a day. But I'm not addicted to it, like I can go for like 3 months without coffee, and then take it up again like that. I do that all the time. I apparently have some sort of caffiene immunity in my blood from my mom drinking like 5 pots a day while she was pregnant with me.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

One "cup"? Surely one "pot" is more ILE standards. THIS REMINDS ME I was suposed to nick someones coffee machine but I have not done so yet maybe I should remedy this.

(At this point, Sarah remembers she does not even have a kettle)...

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

You can get immunities like that?

That explains alot.

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Never had the need to live off of it or anything. Very tasty, though, and good in various combinations. My preferred morning wake-up liquid is orange juice.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I make my own orange juice every morning with one of those funny machines. It's also my excercise for the day.

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have three coffeemakers, ALL of them have broken carafes. It sucks. When they weren't broken I made good cappucino.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

DECAF!

I like coffee because it's the water of flavored beverages. A judicious amount of cream & sugar, and it's like drinking sweet warmth (which, right now, is fantastic).

Caffeine & me had a nasty break-up about 2 or 3 years ago. We still hook up every so often, but it's always a quickie, and nothing too serious. We have an understanding. Back in college, though, I was all about COKE - I constructed a tower wall of cans from the cases (cases!) of soda I downed on a daily basis. Now, my stomach winces every time I think of eating ... well, anything. But the drug used to LOVE me, oh yeah.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

only drink it if there's *nothing* else as it is satan's brew. and when i do drink it i go doubly mad as i have to put loads of sugar in to take away the taste. caffiene and sugar frenzy = DUD.

katie, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yayyyy - i grossed ally out...time for another camel.

Geoff, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Coffee is horrible. I never drink it. I've never had more than 3 cups in my entire life...smells great, tastes foul.

james, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't like coffee. I have long since sold my soul to The Coca-Cola Corporation of America. It serves all my caffeinous needs.

Tom, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Coffee is laxative.

Helen Fordsdale, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Seattle is home to excellent coffee... there's about 5 coffeehouses for every 1 fast food chain restaurant here. I'm not kidding.

Naturally, I got hooked on the sauce (my form: white chocolate mocha) for a while, but I quit right around the WTC tragedy. There was no need to make myself more tense, when I was already too tense.

I do think the smell of coffee is far, far better than the taste, though.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(oh christ , haven't we been thu this already!)

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like the kind that tastes more than hot sweet light stuff than dark bitter actual COFFEE. And I hate hate hate Turkish coffee. I couldn't even gulp down a tiny cup to get my fortune read from it.

Maria, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Was up to about 4 XL's and a bottle of Jolt in high school, now Im down to about 2 XL Tim Hortons a day or homebrewed equivalent.

Lived ontop of a coffee shop for awhile and the smell in the morning of four pots brewing at once was amazing.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
What was this lost news story about?

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 23 May 2003 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

coffee

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 23 May 2003 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

I feel like a douche ordering breves and even more of a couche since no one here knows what they are or how to make them. But they are so yum that I don't mind my true doucheness shining through.

Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

hoochie coochie

carne asada, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

fat

Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

oh wow this is the 3rd thread this week where i've written what i wrote 6 years ago and been shocked! now i LOVE turkish coffee and real coffee without lots of syrups and crap in it!

Maria, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i like this essay. bring on the 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

tipsy mothra, Friday, 23 November 2007 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

that is good. she never quite says it, but i like the idea of coffee as being partially responsible for the enlightenment.

negotiable, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

It is difficult, at best, to get a good cup of coffee in San Francisco. Why this is, I have no idea.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Hypercoffee

So far, the Clover is still something of a cult object, with just over 200 machines scattered around the world. But it might soon become a common sight: Starbucks has just bought two.

Designed by three Stanford graduates, it lets the user program every feature of the brewing process, including temperature, water dose and extraction time. (It even has an Ethernet connection that can feed a complete record of its configurations to a Web database.) Not only is each cup brewed to order, but the way each cup is brewed can be tailored to a particular bean — light or dark roast, acidic or sweet, and so on.

The Clover works something like an inverted French press: coffee grounds go into a brew chamber, hot water shoots in and a powerful piston slowly lifts and plunges a filter, forcing the coffee out through a nozzle in the front. The final step, when a cake of spent grounds rises majestically to the top, is so titillating to coffee fanatics that one of them posted a clip of it on YouTube.

“There is some gee-whizness to it,” said Doug Zell, a founder of Intelligentsia. “But hopefully the focus goes back to the cup of coffee.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

In the grand tradition of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_room_coffee_pot";>Trojan Room coffee pot</a>.

In the meantime, coffee? Yes please!

j.lu, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

this shit is not good for you

and what, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

but it's the future! of shit that's not good for you

rrrobyn, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

(It even has an Ethernet connection that can feed a complete record of its configurations to a Web database.)

Oh ffs.

stevienixed, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

this shit is not good for you

They can take my coffee away...when they pry my cold dead fingers off the cup.

j.lu, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha the last sentence on the first para made me think somehow the last automatic step the machine did was upload a video of itself to Youtube.

Abbott, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.discostyle.com/discochart/191-200/192b.jpg

deej, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.discostyle.com/discochart/191-200/192.jpg

^^^^^^great album

deej, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, man, I would pay nearly anything for a coffeemaker that was constantly uploading pictures of itself to its MySpace page and stuff

nabisco, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"got wasteed with the toaster last nite, LOL, i was still makin irish coffee in the morning . man im so bord now, why is the water hear so HARD"

nabisco, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

BREWMACHINE'S BLOG

MADE COFFEE

Category: Dining
Current mood: Silly

I made the coffee. I made it. I shot the water into it. Now it is coffee. This was 121º F. It is coffee now. I made the coffee. See my Flicker account.

<link to video>

Abbott, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

How do I shot water

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Okay, I'm DESPERATE. I want a proper cappuccino/caffe latte maker. So I need a cappuccino machine, right? Anyone have any ideas on which one to get? I don't want one which uses Nespresso (fuck that). Pads are alright but a bonus, not the main thing.

*sigh*

stevienixed, Thursday, 13 March 2008 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

what happened with starbucks and the various other second wave coffee places imo is that the first wave of american coffee was just whatever weak diner etc bs so then when espresso drinks were introduced they were much better theres no conspiracy they were just more sophisticated compared to what was available at the time and eventually got passed up by even greater sophistication to the point where america is really at the forefront of coffee now where the second wave was playing catch up to europe

and fwiw starbucks will make you a perfectly good cup of medium roast single origin cof if you want now

lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:04 (five days ago) link

kinda crazy that robusta beans are being used now in blends, that was a strict no-no back in the day. global warming really is coming for coffee arabica heh

, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:20 (five days ago) link

yeah my preference has always been a city or full city roast, but you really need high quality beans. there's so much crap out there. every trader joe's single origin i've ever tried has tasted like pencil shavings.

i think that's why colombian beans are so popular, they taste like nothing, and therefore go well with everything.

, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:22 (five days ago) link

I was a hard core Starbucks guy for years, in fact, Sumatran was my favorite. At some point, I started to branch out from Starbucks and still appreciate a heavy and earthy bean, but I’d developed a distaste for the oiliness of a bean. I later learned the primary reason I like Sumatran, was because it could handle being over-roasted better than almost any other bean. Once I learned this, I branched out to other beans, and honestly, I love all regions of coffee for their unique flavors. These flavors are lost if you roast your coffee dark.

sumatran beans taste like mud at anything lighter than a french roast, not surprising. the fact that sumatran beans were this guy's favorite orients me outside his coffee compass.

, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:24 (five days ago) link

kinda crazy that robusta beans are being used now in blends

Pretty sure they've always been used in Italian espresso?

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:25 (five days ago) link

huh, that's true. i guess i must have blocked that from my mind!

, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:54 (five days ago) link

recall once telling a french person that there was robusta in their coffee and they got mad at me

lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:05 (five days ago) link

I can't imagine embracing cinnamon roast - I like charcoal roast

https://img.vendingmarketwatch.com/files/base/cygnus/vmw/image/2015/02/coffee_bean_roast.54d9180d8d9b2.png?auto=format,compress&w=1050&h=590&fit=clip

| (Latham Green), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:25 (five days ago) link

speaking of overly design-y stuff i need to confess that i bought a fellow ode grinder during the lockdown, it's been about two years of roughly daily use and it's already giving up the ghost. should have known better after my experience with their kettles!

― the late great, Tuesday, January 24, 2023

Just curious how it is giving up the ghost? Is the motor dying? I've had mine for the same amount of time. A few months ago it started to rattle in a weird way, like there was a bean stuck in it (which may have been the case). I finally took it apart after a vacation and did a proper cleaning. I fucked up putting it back together my first few tries. The first time I got some nasty burr grinding sounds and had to take it back apart before even using it. The second time it was good for a week then the burrs seemed to kind of drift together again, causing a scary-sounding whine/scrape sound. I have since gotten a lot better at calibrating the burrs - the videos on their site are well-made. As a side benefit of all this tinkering, I've been cleaning it way more often and it really does seem to massively affect the taste of the coffee. The ability to take it apart and buy certain replacement parts was a huge part of the reason I bought it in the first place, so I'm glad I finally got over my hesitance to do that.

beard papa, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:38 (five days ago) link

That reminds me I should clean my grinder more often. The coffee I buy is invariably somewhere between pics #2 and 3 above.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:40 (five days ago) link

^^^
On both accounts.

Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:46 (five days ago) link

Around the same time I had those grinder issues, I lost my stainless steel Aeropress filter and decided to deep-dive into James Hoffman's Aeropress videos on YT before replacing it, and I have to say they have not only improved the taste of my coffee, but saved me a little bit of money as I realized I was using too many beans for the amount of water that could fit in the Aeropress. Doing so resulted in under-extraction. I wondered why I always felt my 1/2 cup (11g) that I'd have after lunch always tasted so much stronger and better than the morning cup (21g). Turns out I had accidentally nailed the ratio of the smaller cup. I still like more volume a bigger cup, so I'm doing around 18g of beans and as much water as I can fit into the Aeropress chamber and still get the plunger in to prevent the water from dripping through. I also went back to paper filters and re-use them until they are basically brown or too damaged, which just feels less wasteful to me and doesn't really affect the taste at all.

beard papa, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:49 (five days ago) link

I'm doing around 18g of beans and as much water as I can fit into the Aeropress chamber and still get the plunger in to prevent the water from dripping through

yeah this is exactly what I'm doing. more like 16g if it's a really light roast.

what have I done to deserve you (lukas), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:53 (five days ago) link

xp to beard papa

so the issue i am having is that after successfully cleaning the burrs a few times, the rotational auger / first burr no longer pops out when i remove the auger key and press. i am not sure if this is because the spring is wack, the burrs are so oily that they're stuck together, or there's a bit of bean stuck in the burrs or to the side of the burr assembly that's keeping it locked in place. i can push the burr assembly inward and it has a little give, and it returns to the original position, but it just doesn't pop out the way it's supposed to

the whole thing is machined with so little tolerance that i can't get anything like a hook in there to pull the burrs out, and the rotational auger (and iirc the inner burrs) is made of such soft metal that i'm afraid to take needlenose pliers to it. i've looked at a bunch of their "how to" videos on cleaning and/or replacing burrs, and based on the comments boxes this seems to be a not-uncommon problem with the burr assembly

two years is pretty shitty i think for a burr grinder, especially one with upscale pretensions, but tbf i got mine used off ebay for half-price. it was not too long after the original release (maybe a few months) and it still looks clean, but who knows how bad the previous owner abused it.

the good news is that it is grinding fine, both in terms of the consistency and how the motor sounds, though if i can't clean it who knows what the longevity is going to be

the late great, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:04 (five days ago) link

the way i calibrate the burrs is to start it really loose, put it on the finest grind setting, and gradually tighten until i just start to hear the high pitched chirping of burrs grinding together (at the very finest setting). if i dial it back a notch and still hear the chirping i loosen it until it goes away. i think this works because the tension is going to relax a tiny amount over time, so you end up with the finest setting being the tightest the burrs can run (and you're not supposed to grind on the very finest setting anyway, so having it chirp a tiny bit at that setting is still okay)

the late great, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:11 (five days ago) link

That's exactly how Fellow says to do it in this video by their "VP of Hardware", which you may have already seen. It's about how to swap in their new burrs, but I just found it really informative about how the thing works in general (though it sounds like you have a better grasp than I do tbh). Toward the end of the video he mentions using more force to pull the auger out (and picks up a pair of needle-nose pliers) and also mentions gentle sanding a few times in this video.

I definitely have a first generation model, which I'm a little salty about tbh, I must have bought it right before they released the Gen 2.

beard papa, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:27 (five days ago) link

How does one clean a Capresso grinder properly? I'm not sure I've ever really thoroughly cleaned it lol

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:27 (five days ago) link

xp i’m more of a learn-by-reading type vs videos but iirc the reddit posts i looked at were cribbed from those videos. that’s actually one of my biggest pet peeves about the new era. i try to look up documentation for the fancy graphic design software i just bought and they literally tell me it doesn’t exist but they have a million youtubes i can watch … smdh but something for another thread i guess

i still have my old capresso infinity burr grinder. cleaning never seemed to be as much of an issue, maybe because the burr’s rotational axis is vertical (vs horizontal in the ode) so stuff didn’t stay up there. or maybe it’s because it’s designed so you only take the top burr out.

either way urnex grindz seemed to work well enough for that, vs the ode which also needs monthly grindz but also some occasional dissasembly

the late great, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:43 (five days ago) link

im generally more disposed towards reading than video too but youtube tutorials are great for things that have a lot of physical steps imho like say disassembling a coffee grinder you can actually see how to do it

lag∞n, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:55 (five days ago) link

yeah i guess i can SEE that but i get impatient w videos

on the infinity you rotate the plastic hopper all the way past coarsest setting and it lifts out. there’s a rubber apron to remove, then you’re just looking down at the top burr. you can rotate that (ccw i think) to unlock it and it lifts out so you brush it and the bottom burr, and maybe use a cloth to wipe if it’s oily

the late great, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:00 (five days ago) link

lagoon most french people know next to nothing about coffee ime

Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:31 (five days ago) link

Sumatra Mandheling in a medium roast is delicious and low in acidity. It’s my second favorite bean in the world, behind only Papua New Guinea from a small plantation.

Josefa, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 01:54 (four days ago) link

i see both sides of the video thing, my way of dealing with the impatience is to furiously skip around to find the part i care about, probably wasting as much time as if i had just watched from the beginning.

i need to clean my espresso grinder soon, it's been a year. some cleaning tasks are rewarding bc they produce tangible results.....grinder cleaning is not one of those.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:03 (four days ago) link

the baratza i got is easy to clean, one of the wirecutter recommended things that i'm actually happy about

, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:17 (four days ago) link

and yeah, i'm not a fan of sumatra but one thing it's got going is very low acid. some of those south and central american beans will make you pucker up. xp

, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:18 (four days ago) link

my non-espresso grinder is the baratza, it is definitely pretty easy to clean.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:28 (four days ago) link

One of my friends who lived in France a while back told me that a french guy she was talking to dismissed the then rising American third wave coffee as "globalist coffee," which is pretty funny since, you know, coffee doesn't grow in France.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 04:56 (four days ago) link

I was surprised to find better coffee in Taiwan than France. Like, just superior coffee in every setting! WTF france.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 05:13 (four days ago) link

Not that it's Taiwanese, but you know who has surprisingly good coffee near me? H-Mart.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 05:18 (four days ago) link

One of my friends who lived in France a while back told me that a french guy she was talking to dismissed the then rising American third wave coffee as "globalist coffee,"

excited to hear about this new development in antisemitism

Bully King and Chips (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 09:36 (four days ago) link

seriously

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 10:31 (four days ago) link

zees flat whites, who drinks zem - citizens of nowhere zat's who

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 10:32 (four days ago) link

France turned back on coffee

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:52 (three days ago) link

the baratza i got is easy to clean, one of the wirecutter recommended things that i'm actually happy about

― 龜, Monday, January 30, 2023 9:17 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

my non-espresso grinder is the baratza, it is definitely pretty easy to clean.

― call all destroyer, Monday, January 30, 2023 9:28 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

do y'all do anything more than sticking the wire brush into the grinders?

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:54 (three days ago) link

When I occasionally clean it I generally disassemble it, pull out the top burr, and brush with a soft brush. I also have some of them cornstarch grinder cleaner pellets and I run a batch of them through once a year or so

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:17 (three days ago) link

I’ve tried to turn it upside down before but that was a silly idea

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:17 (three days ago) link

there's a step by step youtube xp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq_4Zg0Jqvo

, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:27 (three days ago) link

i have taken it apart and brushed it, also done the pellets and sometimes i just stick a handheld vacuum in there.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:30 (three days ago) link

thank you both!

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:32 (three days ago) link

does baratza own capresso? because that just looks like a nicer version of the infinity!

the late great, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:47 (three days ago) link

How does one clean a Capresso grinder properly? I'm not sure I've ever really thoroughly cleaned it lol


I take mine outside with a can of compressed air a few times a year.

john shopkins (naus), Friday, 3 February 2023 03:58 (yesterday) link

I think Peet's is basically STarbux

| (Latham Green), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:38 (yesterday) link

also - Apples - a typicaly pairing with coffee? would APPLES AND COFFEE be a place people would shop dine

| (Latham Green), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:41 (yesterday) link

peet's is not that great but i think still much better than starbucks

i got into it in college, when i lived a couple blocks (spruce and cedar) from the original peet's in berkeley

the late great, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:42 (yesterday) link

peets has declined in the past few years trying to be more sbuxy with their offerings but they are still a far better goto for decent cup of coffee

i have been going to my local for 15 years, its always calm & quiet & pleasant

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:53 (yesterday) link

peets has declined in the past few years trying to be more sbuxy with their offerings but they are still a far better goto for decent cup of coffee

i have been going to my local for 15 years, its always calm & quiet & pleasant

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:53 (yesterday) link

yeah of the big chains they have by far the classiest interiors!

the late great, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:27 (yesterday) link

I take mine outside with a can of compressed air a few times a year.
― john shopkins (naus), Thursday, February 2, 2023 10:58 PM (yesterday)

huh, does it introduce any off flavors? compressed air is basically hydrocarbons like butane/propane and/or refrigerants like r-134

, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:31 (yesterday) link

i've used compressed air, that stuff is obviously volatile (since it's compressed gas) so any condensation will generally evaporate real quickly, but since i don't want to expose myself to any more carcinogens than strictly necessary i always wipe surfaces down with a dry rag after i do that

(we used to rinse our hands with ether, acetone, methanol etc during organic chem lab ... ah, the old days)

the late great, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:35 (yesterday) link

The compressed air is just to get all the fine grounds out. I wash the hopper and burrs and everything else either in the sink or wipe down with a damp cloth (for the main body). Then I’ll towel dry everything then let it air dry overnight. I haven’t noticed any off-tastes in my coffee despite the can having a bittering agent to prevent inhalant abuse.

john shopkins (naus), Saturday, 4 February 2023 01:52 (one hour ago) link


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