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So how important is coffee to you?

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You really ARE the ILE equivalent of the Metro free newspaper, ace.

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I tried it when I was a kid and thought it was the vilest substance on earth and vowed never to touch it again. Then. when I was about 17, i had a school project which involved staying up half the night to complete it, so I drank black coffeee to keep me awake. During my student days coffee became more or less essential. This was the way it stayed until a few weeks ago when I began to experience really extreme pains in my lower gut which the doctor diagnosed and irregular, involuntary spasms in my colon. I;'ve stayed off the cofee ever since. I thought that I would suffer really bad withdrawal symptoms but have actually found it quite bearable to avoid coffee. Now, when I would've had a cup of coffee I have a glass of water instead.

MarkH, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Coffee = gut pain and the shakes for me, so it is very important in the sense that it is vital I avoid it.

RickyT, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Thought I had sworn it off 4-evah, became sadly addicted again about 6 weeks ago.

Nicole, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah the shakes are part of the FUN. Although I must beware of morning coffee, especially fellow ILE-ers who make extremely good morning coffee, as it starts me off on the road to COFFEE MADNESS. Leading to me feeling very sick therefore having to eat something leading to drinking more coffee leading to the TWITCHING AND THE hyperdrive sequence (commence, hit it Pinback)!

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Coffee is one of the joys of my existence, only it is difficult to get a nice flat white round here.

A friend of mine got a job in Starbucks in the US once, and she said that iced coffee over there was just coffee poured over ice. Is that true? Here it involves ice cream and other stuff

Menelaus Darcy, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes that's true. When you involve ice cream and stuff it becomes a milk shake.

Samantha, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Iced coffee American style: crushed ice, coffee, milk. Maybe sugar.

Iced coffee everywhere else is a frappe: cream, crushed ice, sugar, coffee.

Ice cream in coffee is a milkshake, only if you BLEND it.

suzy, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I would suck the ass of a bleeding camel if i knew it had coffee in it.

Geoff, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm drinking coffee right now. my day off so far has been unproductive. I got up at 2 and had a horrible greasy lunch where my friend works. I dont have the car today cos my brother took it so I'm stranded. I was going to get the bus to college but I'm lazy. Its been a hectic week and I'm now rambling on.......

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Geoff, that's officially the most disgusting thing I ever heard.

I drink at least one cup of coffee a day. But I'm not addicted to it, like I can go for like 3 months without coffee, and then take it up again like that. I do that all the time. I apparently have some sort of caffiene immunity in my blood from my mom drinking like 5 pots a day while she was pregnant with me.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

One "cup"? Surely one "pot" is more ILE standards. THIS REMINDS ME I was suposed to nick someones coffee machine but I have not done so yet maybe I should remedy this.

(At this point, Sarah remembers she does not even have a kettle)...

Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You can get immunities like that?

That explains alot.

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Never had the need to live off of it or anything. Very tasty, though, and good in various combinations. My preferred morning wake-up liquid is orange juice.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I make my own orange juice every morning with one of those funny machines. It's also my excercise for the day.

Ronan, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I have three coffeemakers, ALL of them have broken carafes. It sucks. When they weren't broken I made good cappucino.

Ally, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

DECAF!

I like coffee because it's the water of flavored beverages. A judicious amount of cream & sugar, and it's like drinking sweet warmth (which, right now, is fantastic).

Caffeine & me had a nasty break-up about 2 or 3 years ago. We still hook up every so often, but it's always a quickie, and nothing too serious. We have an understanding. Back in college, though, I was all about COKE - I constructed a tower wall of cans from the cases (cases!) of soda I downed on a daily basis. Now, my stomach winces every time I think of eating ... well, anything. But the drug used to LOVE me, oh yeah.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

only drink it if there's *nothing* else as it is satan's brew. and when i do drink it i go doubly mad as i have to put loads of sugar in to take away the taste. caffiene and sugar frenzy = DUD.

katie, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yayyyy - i grossed ally out...time for another camel.

Geoff, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Coffee is horrible. I never drink it. I've never had more than 3 cups in my entire life...smells great, tastes foul.

james, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't like coffee. I have long since sold my soul to The Coca-Cola Corporation of America. It serves all my caffeinous needs.

Tom, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Coffee is laxative.

Helen Fordsdale, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Seattle is home to excellent coffee... there's about 5 coffeehouses for every 1 fast food chain restaurant here. I'm not kidding.

Naturally, I got hooked on the sauce (my form: white chocolate mocha) for a while, but I quit right around the WTC tragedy. There was no need to make myself more tense, when I was already too tense.

I do think the smell of coffee is far, far better than the taste, though.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

(oh christ , haven't we been thu this already!)

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the kind that tastes more than hot sweet light stuff than dark bitter actual COFFEE. And I hate hate hate Turkish coffee. I couldn't even gulp down a tiny cup to get my fortune read from it.

Maria, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Was up to about 4 XL's and a bottle of Jolt in high school, now Im down to about 2 XL Tim Hortons a day or homebrewed equivalent.

Lived ontop of a coffee shop for awhile and the smell in the morning of four pots brewing at once was amazing.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
What was this lost news story about?

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 23 May 2003 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

coffee

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 23 May 2003 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

I feel like a douche ordering breves and even more of a couche since no one here knows what they are or how to make them. But they are so yum that I don't mind my true doucheness shining through.

Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

hoochie coochie

carne asada, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

fat

Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

oh wow this is the 3rd thread this week where i've written what i wrote 6 years ago and been shocked! now i LOVE turkish coffee and real coffee without lots of syrups and crap in it!

Maria, Friday, 28 September 2007 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

i like this essay. bring on the 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

tipsy mothra, Friday, 23 November 2007 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

that is good. she never quite says it, but i like the idea of coffee as being partially responsible for the enlightenment.

negotiable, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

It is difficult, at best, to get a good cup of coffee in San Francisco. Why this is, I have no idea.

libcrypt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Hypercoffee

So far, the Clover is still something of a cult object, with just over 200 machines scattered around the world. But it might soon become a common sight: Starbucks has just bought two.

Designed by three Stanford graduates, it lets the user program every feature of the brewing process, including temperature, water dose and extraction time. (It even has an Ethernet connection that can feed a complete record of its configurations to a Web database.) Not only is each cup brewed to order, but the way each cup is brewed can be tailored to a particular bean — light or dark roast, acidic or sweet, and so on.

The Clover works something like an inverted French press: coffee grounds go into a brew chamber, hot water shoots in and a powerful piston slowly lifts and plunges a filter, forcing the coffee out through a nozzle in the front. The final step, when a cake of spent grounds rises majestically to the top, is so titillating to coffee fanatics that one of them posted a clip of it on YouTube.

“There is some gee-whizness to it,” said Doug Zell, a founder of Intelligentsia. “But hopefully the focus goes back to the cup of coffee.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

In the grand tradition of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_room_coffee_pot";>Trojan Room coffee pot</a>.

In the meantime, coffee? Yes please!

j.lu, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

this shit is not good for you

and what, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

but it's the future! of shit that's not good for you

rrrobyn, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

(It even has an Ethernet connection that can feed a complete record of its configurations to a Web database.)

Oh ffs.

stevienixed, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

this shit is not good for you

They can take my coffee away...when they pry my cold dead fingers off the cup.

j.lu, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Hahaha the last sentence on the first para made me think somehow the last automatic step the machine did was upload a video of itself to Youtube.

Abbott, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.discostyle.com/discochart/191-200/192b.jpg

deej, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.discostyle.com/discochart/191-200/192.jpg

^^^^^^great album

deej, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, man, I would pay nearly anything for a coffeemaker that was constantly uploading pictures of itself to its MySpace page and stuff

nabisco, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

"got wasteed with the toaster last nite, LOL, i was still makin irish coffee in the morning . man im so bord now, why is the water hear so HARD"

nabisco, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

BREWMACHINE'S BLOG

MADE COFFEE

Category: Dining
Current mood: Silly

I made the coffee. I made it. I shot the water into it. Now it is coffee. This was 121º F. It is coffee now. I made the coffee. See my Flicker account.

<link to video>

Abbott, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

How do I shot water

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Okay, I'm DESPERATE. I want a proper cappuccino/caffe latte maker. So I need a cappuccino machine, right? Anyone have any ideas on which one to get? I don't want one which uses Nespresso (fuck that). Pads are alright but a bonus, not the main thing.

*sigh*

stevienixed, Thursday, 13 March 2008 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

People think I’m nuts for grinding each cup I make myself, but really it’s about using my own laziness to keep myself in check. Any time I have free access to those pod things I will drink 10 cups without a thought.

beard papa, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:11 (one week ago) link

Two pint glasses of cold brew in the afternoon for a daily treat.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 20:16 (one week ago) link

Apologies for getting TMI but the other coffee problem I have is with it staining my teeth. When I was a smoker and drank coffee I had this problem all the time, but I quit smoking 8 years ago and when I quit drinking coffee mostly the staining problem went away entirely. I looked in the mirror the other day and noticed it was back after just 4 months of drinking 1-2 small cups of coffee per day.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:07 (one week ago) link

that's about the least TMI thing I can think of if you're talking about the effects of coffee

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:09 (one week ago) link

yeah was sure it was gonna be about poo

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:31 (one week ago) link

DRINKING BLACK COFFEE
BLACK COFFEE
DRINKING BLACK COFFEE
POOPIN MY PANTS

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:10 (one week ago) link

yeah was sure it was gonna be about poo

*stifles giggles*

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:11 (one week ago) link

ANYWAY

Fell into a James Hoffmann video fugue state today. I am tempted by the 9Barista, it seems like such a brilliant, gorgeous design and it would be cool to brew actual espresso, but it's 10x what my Aeropress cost. The next interesting-looking machine (the Decent Espresso) is another order of magnitude jump.

My main takeaway from today is I should upgrade my grinder. (Later I'll practice saying "of course, the grinder is more important than the coffeemaker" into a mirror.) The Knock Aergrind seems like the entry-level audiophile choice here, and is, of course, out of stock.

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:28 (one week ago) link

dont get a hand grinder man lol just buy yrself a capresso infinity

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:33 (one week ago) link

i stopped going out for coffee during the early lockdown and resurrected my espresso stuff. i'm just rolling with a baratza encore and the ancient breville cafe roma my wife bought me for xmas in like our second year of dating (so a very long time ago), and figuring ignorance is bliss if i can make a drinkable espresso and don't look at pricey gear.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 July 2020 01:55 (one week ago) link

9Barista is £295 for a STOVETOP espresso? GTFO. Just buy a used Gaggia Classic, every morning I make a grind and brew an espresso of such good quality I'd happily pay for it.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:05 (one week ago) link

man if that's how you feel do not look up the price of the decent espresso

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:07 (one week ago) link

xps

Apparently you can upgrade that Encore with the burr (the M2) from the more expensive Virtuoso grinder for like $30 for a more consistent grind.

Thinking about buying an Encore and doing that upgrade myself. But according to nerds, it still can't really grind for espresso, and I do a fine grind + fast brew method with the Aeropress. Plus I might spring for a 9Barista one day. Or, sure, maybe a Gaggia :p

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:12 (one week ago) link

JFC what is all this shit -- stovetop pro espresso? Hand grinders? $2800 ipad espresso machines?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:40 (one week ago) link

If I was gonna spend $400 on a stovetop machine I'd probably just spend $300 more and get a rancilio silvia, or maybe a breville or something like that for $500. And Capresso Infinity is the only non-barista-grade grinder endorsed by this thread.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:45 (one week ago) link

Also one thing that seems annoying about the 9Barista is that you have to make one shot at a time and then start over, so if you have company it's probably like another 5-7 minutes to make each additional shot. TBF my La Pavoni was also not great in that regard (required a lot of cleaning/prep in between shots and the water tank was small).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:46 (one week ago) link

If I'm putting in effort to make a tiny amount of coffee, I'm just going Turkish.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:54 (one week ago) link

I don't get a lot of company over these days for some reason. And the 9Barista is actually supposed to produce a decent shot! I dunno I'll look at the others.

But I do need a better grinder and ilx's recommendation seems ... a little behind the times.

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:57 (one week ago) link

how dare u

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:02 (one week ago) link

There was an actual manual espresso machine (pour water from kettle into top then plunge, no electricity needed that would be 100 times more reasonable than the 9Barista

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:11 (one week ago) link

bruh it's called the infinity it' good forever

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:13 (one week ago) link

i got the capresso infinity a couple months ago on this thread's recommendation and i love it. it makes infinity mess though.

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:21 (one week ago) link

not counting the times i ran it without the cup thing under the grinder because attention deficits

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:22 (one week ago) link

I just saw that for like $30-40 more they have a model that's basically the same thing except the base is metal, wondering if maybe the weight stabilizes it and prevents that annoying dance the grind tray does.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:25 (one week ago) link

fine I'll just say it, yes I do want a steampunk coffee experience

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:32 (one week ago) link

I have a Baratza Encore. I just make pourover at home, I don't make espresso of any kind or aeropress. It's fine!

agreed that don't fuck around w a hand grinder for your house that you live in unless you truly don't have space on your counter for the gadget

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:34 (one week ago) link

it takes exactly as much time to hand-grind with my Skerton as it does to get water to 195F, so I don't really mind

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:35 (one week ago) link

mr veg always wanted to get one of those crazy hand-pump espresso makers with 5 levers & gauges & shit

my feeling is that if you are doing all that work, give up espresso & become a steam train enthusiast

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:36 (one week ago) link

VG I was at Historic Mystic Seaport in Connecticut a few years ago and it happened to be the day the local model steam engine hobbyists had all come in with their models and connected them up to a big supply line and you could walk around and watch them putter, it was great

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:38 (one week ago) link

putputput

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:38 (one week ago) link

I like the look of that 9barista thing but, for the same reason I haven't bough an espresso machine for the home, I probably wouldn't get one. Right now I am really valuing walking round the corner to get coffee because Tina, who makes me coffee, is the only human being other than my wife who I am seeing in the flesh on a regular basis.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2020 03:39 (one week ago) link

i love trains! that was kinda my point....i thought

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:45 (one week ago) link

I love them too

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:47 (one week ago) link

That is a good thing, but if you're like me, walking around the corner requires the espresso first.
Seriously, unless you're one of those folk who needs steamed milk as part of your coffee experience (for which I would recommend either a 2 boiler machine or a separate steamer, it's awkward to have one machine which has to switch between cof temp and steam temp) then a mechanically simple, well made basic espresso machine will give you just as good results as a $4000 ipad machine which shows you molecular structure. The reason being that if your temperature is right, the grind, the pack, the water flow and the exit path are the determinants of the result. If you do all those things yourself, and pay attention, you end up knowing what you're doing and how to fix it if it goes wrong. I think I spent $350 on my entire coffee setup (Sunbeam burr grinder, Gaggia Classic, both used) and I have zero need to upgrade (and I am fussy about coffee). And I think I probably enjoy it more than unloading four figures on a box that adjusts things according to an algorithm.
Holy shit I have become an old man, I was waiting for it.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 30 July 2020 05:28 (one week ago) link

If I didn't live in Melbourne it would be different but I can heave a rock in almost any direction and hit a top quality espresso machine (although not necessarily with a competent operator standing behind it). Only slightly further than my coffee place is Australia's Main dealer for La Marzocco and their home machine is a beautiful thing (if unfeasibly large and expensive).

All in all being a steam train fireman was a cheaper hobby.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 30 July 2020 05:52 (one week ago) link

lol I said I probably wasn't going to get the 9Barista at $300, much less the Decent at $3000.

xp

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 05:56 (one week ago) link

Sorry lukas, not aiming at you, just my "get off my lawn" rant about the fetishisation of home coffee tech. I'm sure you will end up with a good and reasonably priced rig!

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 30 July 2020 06:11 (one week ago) link

my roommates make super weak coffee in chemex and it gets cold instantly. lame

flopson, Thursday, 30 July 2020 06:18 (one week ago) link

Time to move, flops

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 July 2020 06:48 (one week ago) link

Just throw it in the microwave for a minute

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 30 July 2020 06:58 (one week ago) link

um no throw your roommates in the microwave & that lame coffee in the TRASH

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 07:16 (one week ago) link

mr veg always wanted to get one of those crazy hand-pump espresso makers with 5 levers & gauges & shit

my feeling is that if you are doing all that work, give up espresso & become a steam train enthusiast

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

My dad has an early 80s hand-pump espresso machine. The company is no longer in business and when a part goes he has to find some nerd on the Internet to machine a new one.

Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:58 (one week ago) link

I think I've had at least one espresso per week for the last 14 years and haven't had one since early March. I kind of miss it but maybe I've just numbed myself about the absence.

joygoat, Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:44 (one week ago) link

participating in this thread cursed me and my espresso machine spewed hot water and coffee grounds all over the place this morning. i guess the gasket is dead : (

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:23 (one week ago) link

is it a curse... or a blessing in disguise (getting a new machine)

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:30 (one week ago) link

Depending on the machine a gasket swap is cheap and DIY - getting the old one out is hard tho, screwing a screw into it and pulling carefully can work

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:52 (one week ago) link

I'm sure you will end up with a good and reasonably priced rig!

Don't be so sure but thanks!

lukas, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:43 (one week ago) link

xp yeah i'm going to try to repair it, doesn't seem that hard and a new machine is doable but not exactly what i wanted to be spending money on.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:04 (one week ago) link


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