Did anyone watch Grand Designs last night?

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Fucking hell.

Thoughts:

1) The video they had done made me think of Tomb Raider 3.

2) The couple were a bit weird

3) They were fucking minted. This aroused my ire. Anyone who sepdns 34K on a bleeding cooker is a waste of genetic material.

4) The house was bllody marvellous. Might be a clear case of Marxist righteous indignation being a cover for simple envy. The library was very nice, with door disguised as bookcase.

5) The staircase was nice. As was the glass walkway (in the video, replaces industrial mesh grid floor.

6) The bath was far too small for both of them to fit in.

7) It was the kind of house Blofeld would have.

8) The best bit though was the planning dispute. They interviewed the people from (I think) the London Symphony Orchestra who objected to the brick used in the party wall. Because it wasn't their actual property, they could act in their own minds as not personally interested and so more 'rational'. INstead, shorn of any reason to compromise (because you actually have to live there and be neighbourly ultimately) they really got to the heart of the bourgeois nastiness that is contentious small home improvement planning issues. Magnificent to see the true nasty spitefulness come out. More!

For more, including video, visit the Grand Designs website.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 10:37 (fifteen years ago) link

They seemed a strangely mismatched couple I thought.

But yeah, phenomenal house.

Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I only saw the start and finish, it's been on before apparently, cos I thought it looked like an amazing plan and when I called Chris in to watch it he said he'd seen it before and she was so annoying he couldn't watch it. He was right.

The best bit of it I saw was the update on the planning application, that approval for the bricks in the party wall had been refused, and that they were appealing. Fantastic!

Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I was so shocked by the £34000 cooker that any further rational analysis went out of the window.

Thirty Four THOUSAND POUNDS on a COOKER! THAT DIDN'T EVEN WORK!

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link

It was a new series, so how has Chris seen this? I think we should be told.

They were odd weren't they? I thought they were both lu-las but I warmed to her; she smiled. He was a bit of a cold fish, but I started to like him when he got all philistine about commissioning art.

They'd been looking for a dream house for 6 years; I wondered at some did they stop loving each other (or will htye?) and instead they love the idea of being people with a grebt house. He provided the cash, she got the plans drawn up and supervised that. I started to wonder what the catacylsmic consequencdes would be if either had a drunken shag vcausing the rellie to fall apart.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw the end of this (I was watching Bob Monkhouse's Heroes of Comedy which seemed to be based on hearsay as they didn't include any interviews with him, and Hairy Women where a guy went look around the Amalfi coast in pursuit of the hirsute - dude, use the internet, it's designed to find hairy women) and I'm glad I didn't see all of it. The way they quickly dismissed the fact that they had spent double their budget of £600,000 made me sick. I'm afraid to say I cheered when it said that their retrospective planning application had been refused.

Alfie (Alfie), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

really? Maybe it's been on living tv or something? Or maybe he imagined it.

The house itself was amazing, but they really didn't come over well. How many of the couples/families involved in grand designs do though?

Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"How many of the couples/families involved in grand designs do though?"

The couple who rennovated the derelict water pumping station in Chesterfield did.

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Was that the one where they didn't manage to renovate the part that was going to be the bedrooms, so had to sleep in the living room?

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:46 (fifteen years ago) link

If that had been the Royal Family doing that, we'd all be at the walls with torches....

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't think so, by the epilogue the house was completely finished, but it was one of the Grand Designs revisited episodes.

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

No, the one I'm thinking of was also Revisited, and they still hadn't finished it. It was an old water-works with a tower that had had a tank in it; they were going to convert the tank into bedrooms, with new semi-subterranean buildings around it as the living areas. The new parts were finished fine, but by the time the money ran out the tower was still an empty shell.

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 22 January 2004 11:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Caitlin, that one sounds very different...weird that there are two water-pumping-station episodes though. I missed the one last night, but saw the other water pumping station one, and really enjoyed it. All their hard work and dedication was amazing, and the building looked fantastic at the end, despite my doubts about the gigantic living room floor plan etc, they really made something uniquely suited to them with relatively little money.

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I remember the one Sarah describes. Didn't they turn an old Mini into a desk?

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, was *that* waterworks one the one that was on a week or two or go? I remember that too - it was *huge*.

The one I'm talking about was in the last series, I think.

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes on both counts. I thought the Mini would be weird, but it looked good with their posters and art, and to scale with the interior.

sgs (sgs), Thursday, 22 January 2004 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Sigh. I miss England so much.

Ah, I bet it wasn't as good as the one where we got to laugh at Damien Hirst for spending tens of thousands of pounds on A SHED. That was the best one ever. Better than the two goths with the water tank. (There have been two water pumping station couples.)

Maybe it's schadenfreunde (sp?) but I prefer the ones where everything goes wrong and the smug couples who you want to punch in the face at the beginning of the programme are left debt-ridden and on the verge of divorce at the end.

the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

all that space for two people is bordering on the obscene, especially in london.

and then they go and put 3 large goldfish in a small spherical bowl. grrr.

that said, the bricks they used for the extra wall did look like a better match for the rest of the wall than the ones that were specified. other bits of the courtyard used the other bricks but that wall was already pink. they just needed a couple of months to get a bit grubbier and less new looking.

andy

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 22 January 2004 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

that huf haus. i want one. a bespoke, prefab, 3d mondrian.

and would you find 6 english builders as efficient as those germans?

andy

koogs (koogs), Friday, 30 January 2004 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link

The production team probably got a zillion calls yesterday from middle-class handwringers trying to get the number for the German builders.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 30 January 2004 12:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Wasn't there another Grand Desgins - possibly the in the series on interiors, where they brought in German builders and it all went horribly wrong - something to do with a flat roof I think ?

smee (smee), Friday, 30 January 2004 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

It was the one in Hackney, where they completely ripped the insides of a terrace down. They got Germans in to do the glass walls at the extension, and the flat roof on the extension, and yes, it leaked and had to be re-done.

Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 2 February 2004 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link

because they designed it for the water to actually sit on the roof instead of running away, so that it could act as a further insulator - which I thought was madness, and it was.

That house was rather nice though.

chris (chris), Monday, 2 February 2004 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

My pal Carlos' old Arch. tutor Jeremy Till was on this last year, as he and his wife (also a top-drawer Arch. lecturer) made this amazing house in the arse-end of N7 where there was hay-bale insulation etc. Which was weird because the place has been in a million supplements.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 February 2004 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Ooh, I remember that one - that was the one right next to the ECML, was't it?

caitlin (caitlin), Monday, 2 February 2004 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, the one with the hay bails was nice.

Couldn't stand the place with the £34K cooker though. The whole building was like a very impersonal, immaculately finished, public space - with glass walkways and indoor courtyards. It felt like a Terence Conran restaurant or a posh hotel to me. If I worked in the city, that would be the last place on earth I'd want to come home to.

bert (bert), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
ach the first one in this thread is being repeated now.

cunts!

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

also that huff-haus is now being used on "Footballers Wives"

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i love the LFO for making that couple's lives a misery.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

> being repeated now

'revised repeat', means they don't have to mark it as a repeat in the listings. didn't watch it last night but a part of me hopes it has fallen down since the last visit.

the finnish timber kit house looked fun. like lego only bigger. (and only £65k for the entire kit)

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes the Finnish DIY house was fab! Nice woodworking man put one of the support pillars in the wrong place though.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I was concerned that that the house they built was terribley energy inefficient. Why do they need six toilets, if there are only two of them in the home?

jel, Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I would like to build my own house. I fear it would always be incomplete though.

jel, Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:34 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, i fear that i would be walking on planks for the rest of my life. there'd be a path from the door to the chair to the kitchen to the bathroom to the tv and the rest would remain rubular for ever.

> terribley energy inefficient.

rich people, i have decided, don't care. if they can afford the bills it's ok for them to use as much as they like, they feel. for all of us who bother to recycle there's someone like my boss who drives a hummer.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw it first time round. Really unpleasant tosspot people, very nice house. I'm not sure, but I think it would have cost them as much as the cooker to pull the wall down and do it properly, but they thought it was extortionate. It might have been more though. Who cares, they could afford it.

The other insufferable couple were the ones (well, come to think of it, they were all insufferable) who decided to build a New England clapboard (or whatever) house in Sussex and the bloke built his own fireplce and it looked like a bloody great Babapapa in the corner.

The only ones who weren't entirely insufferable were that Pet Shop Boys bloke and his boyfriend and they were only bearable because they were subjected to homophobia (or so they thought, sadly we didn't get to see any of it).

I would like just a little wooden house.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember the New England house in Sussex from last year. That couple made me seethe - especially when the lady described one area as a 'meditation room'.

The folks who renovated the 19th C. house in Leith were nice.

robster (robster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"C. house" would be appropriate terminology for the kind of people who go on these programmes.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that the couple who were climbers Rob? I liked them, they were nice.

I also remember a guy who made a house out of straw in France? He was a nice down to earth chap, and his house ended up looking grebt.

Rumpie, Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm all for having a few mod cons in the kitchen, but a £34,000 COOKER? That's not even funny, it's a disgusting, excessive display of wealth that made me sick.

AND a dumb waiter - not only that but a HEATED dumb waiter!!!

Huey (Huey), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, the climbers. They had a nailgun that went through STEEL.

robster (robster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:40 (fourteen years ago) link

You're thinking of the Three Little Pigs, Rumpie.

Next week, a foolish man builds his house upon the sands.

I missed the ones with nice people, I was in a state of seethe.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The climbers were great. I loved the way they seemd to treat the whole exercise as one big excuse to hang off the side of the building at precarious angles.

RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:48 (fourteen years ago) link

What's the update on the house? How much did they spend on resolving the issue of the mismatched brickwork? Are they divorced?

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Not divorced yet, but he's definitely having an affair.

Rumpy Pumpkin, Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

The council suggested they got someone in to tint the bricks. Which was objected to by the LFO. The police were called to enforce the councils decision. When presenter chappy asked if they wished they'd given in to start with they said no cos it would have been too expensive. 'Too expensive?','yes, it would have cost about £30,000'. Sadly no news on whether the £34,000 cooker was in working order yet.

RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link

much as i hated the couple the footage of the LFO meeting was hysterical. "so do you want the wall torn down?" - "no, thats not good enough because it shouldn't have been there in the first place". I'm surprised that people liked this weeks house though, i just thought it that kind of kind of good taste that can be bought, utterly uninpired. The tall atrium/dining space looked just like a meeting room in a corporate office space mixed with the communal area in bad girls.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 May 2005 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't think much

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:10 (fourteen years ago) link

What does the F stand for in LFO?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link

festival

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link

or funkie

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link

(in case you're wondering how people that didn't have the budget to finish the build suddenly have Eames dining tables)

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Thursday, 27 September 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

holy shit i think im a cynic and every now and again boom amidships

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 September 2018 22:16 (one year ago) link

I'm thinking that's a pretty cool bookcase, if you ignore the colour coded spine stupidity, but the bolts on the castors are damn ugly and make the lower tier pretty much unusable.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 28 September 2018 06:57 (one year ago) link

grand designs is such a bad programme because of the presenter

conrad, Sunday, 30 September 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

Those bolts look like anti-homeless nobbles

There's like a thousand George Clarke programmes but I thought one of the recent ones, the point was he/the TV show dresses it? After the owners do it up? So there's some element of surprise? I don't know, the rules were vague or maybe I am severely sleep-deprived and the more I try and work out the point of it the more confused I get. Nice show though.

kinder, Sunday, 30 September 2018 22:15 (one year ago) link

No, it wasn't that show.

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Sunday, 30 September 2018 22:32 (one year ago) link

best g clarke is ugly house lovely house

||||||||, Monday, 1 October 2018 06:57 (one year ago) link

the new one, about building in 'impossible' places is good, based on the one episode that's aired so far. because pre-fabs.

koogs, Monday, 1 October 2018 08:36 (one year ago) link

yeah nice to see solutions to actual problems as opposed to poshos inventing stupid ones and getting sealclapped

also it looked like home a bit so

Dmac TT (darraghmac), Monday, 1 October 2018 08:54 (one year ago) link

Can anyone confirm that the new Grand Designs isn't just highly wealthy people phoning their friends to organise finance?

I once saw a George Clarke programme where a couple lived next door to and above three parking spaces. Clarke made suggestions about the use of space and added some black cladding and ... it was probably the best TV house/design programme I've seen.

djh, Monday, 1 October 2018 21:20 (one year ago) link

point of that prog is that it isnae george clarke making suggestions isn't it?

this one: http://ashtonporter.com/all-projects/residential/cut-and-wrap-house/ ?

conrad, Monday, 1 October 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

yes that series was the one i was referring to but the friend had been working on (a friend of conrad's as well, i think) but her point was that the stylists for the reveal do it for all of these kinds of series' inc. grand designs.

FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Monday, 1 October 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

x-post: yes, that was the one. I'd forgotten that it was someone else making the suggestion.

djh, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 06:15 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

that is horrific

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:11 (eleven months ago) link

boring inside and considered ugliness outside, sheer contrarian pick 0/10

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:11 (eleven months ago) link

I agree, it’s awful.

brokenshire (jed_), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:13 (eleven months ago) link

Mingin colour.

brokenshire (jed_), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:18 (eleven months ago) link

run through of previous winners quite cheering apart from those creepy non-children

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:18 (eleven months ago) link

nice gaff

seven yrs a bit of a pisstake

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:26 (eleven months ago) link

Esp. at their age.

brokenshire (jed_), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:28 (eleven months ago) link

ooh this is good

unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:33 (eleven months ago) link

always wonder where ppl

really

get their money

and increasingly intolerant of brushing over this in these shows

unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:34 (eleven months ago) link

class consciousness babey

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

it’s good

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

im irish, rural irish, youll forgive me my slow start

unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

*pops monocle*

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:42 (eleven months ago) link

concrete artist

fucks sake

unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:42 (eleven months ago) link

im goin all vincent browne/haughey on these thieves

unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:44 (eleven months ago) link

a dancer

o rly

and a chief technology officer

oh would ye fuck off

unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:54 (eleven months ago) link

i know isis have a very sophisticated social media operation going and all that but rly all they need to demonstrate the decadence of the west is to cut together some lowlights from this and man vs food and voila, instant radicalisation

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:02 (eleven months ago) link

im proof

unproven (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:07 (eleven months ago) link

mashallah

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:12 (eleven months ago) link

five months pass...

id kill her

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:26 (six months ago) link

yes your honour, not guilty

yes representing myself

no just one item. well i have it here. 27 minutes jncluding adverts.

fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:29 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

Well tonight’s episode was quite something, arrogance, folly and hubris in spades but still felt sorry for him at the end.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 22:23 (one week ago) link

and that's just kevin mcleod!!

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 22:25 (one week ago) link

Lol!

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 22:26 (one week ago) link

j/k

i didn't see it (well i saw the credits as i put it on for the circle a bit early) but sounds like a good episode, might check out

imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 22:27 (one week ago) link

wasn't particularly a good episode, wasn't even a good disaster, was just pretty much what Dan said in the revive.

the Grandest Design episode they did to celebrate the anniversary was interesting, a revisit of the best 5 or so from over the years. the winner was the irish guy with two shipping containers stacked on top of each other (which i remember as being interesting at the time)

koogs, Thursday, 10 October 2019 07:24 (one week ago) link

guy fucked it

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 10 October 2019 08:02 (one week ago) link

can he play rb

it was a least interesting episode, fuck all about design and all about a horrible family

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 October 2019 08:26 (one week ago) link

the house that the euphoria series of dance music compilations failed to build

conrad, Thursday, 10 October 2019 09:01 (one week ago) link

ministry of housing

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 October 2019 09:27 (one week ago) link

are you all talking about this lighthouse one that's on repeat right now?

kinder, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:22 (five days ago) link

yes

koogs, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:25 (five days ago) link

This thing had hubris written all over it from the beginninng, your kids don't need a double room with an en suite each.

The Pingularity (ledge), Sunday, 13 October 2019 20:16 (five days ago) link

beginni the beguinninni

The Pingularity (ledge), Sunday, 13 October 2019 20:16 (five days ago) link

only caught the end. 4 million quid, was it?

kinder, Sunday, 13 October 2019 20:23 (five days ago) link

plus eight years plus one marriage

The Pingularity (ledge), Sunday, 13 October 2019 20:37 (five days ago) link

minus one house

The Pingularity (ledge), Sunday, 13 October 2019 20:38 (five days ago) link


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