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Does anyone else here think that the Simpsons is the absolute best TV show ever? What are your favorite episodes?

Mine is an episode called "Homer's Phobia" [4F11] in which Homer befriends a gay guy, and he fears he will make Bart gay.

Dante-Cubed (Sean3), Saturday, 22 November 2003 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

that gay guy be john waters mang!

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 22 November 2003 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

The gay guy was voiced by John Waters, actually.

Dante-Cubed (Sean3), Saturday, 22 November 2003 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Do we really need this thread?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 22 November 2003 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I was about to say, isnt this the 10000001th simpsons thread here?

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 22 November 2003 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link


Daft Punk (Ned), Saturday, 22 November 2003 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Do we really need this thread?
Shut up, Flanders!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 22 November 2003 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"Wow! American money! What time do you want your breakfast, sir?"

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 22 November 2003 04:24 (seventeen years ago) link

As the resident representative of the Groening estate, any use, quotation of or reference to The Simpsons™, Life in Hell™ or Futurama™ shall require financial reimbursement payable directly to me, active immediately.

Leee Majors Groening, Esq (Leee), Saturday, 22 November 2003 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:01 (seventeen years ago) link

THe wife just bought Simpsons Road Rage for PS2. Really fun for 3 hours. No replay value.

I liked all the halloween episodes the best.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

is there anyone here who doesn't like "the simpsons"? i vaguely recall at least 2 or 3 people on aforementioned various threads saying they didn't.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 22 November 2003 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Leee, does Matt know you go on interweb mentalist boards and claim ownership over his stuff? ;-)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 22 November 2003 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

(Or if not ownership at least droit du signeur.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 22 November 2003 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link


Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 22 November 2003 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

While we have a general one open, anyone know what rings up on the cash register when Maggie is swiped in the opening sequence? Never been able to make it out, and don't have frame-advance on my vid.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 22 November 2003 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link


Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 22 November 2003 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

It isn't that, as it is shorter than that - 4 letters I think. Isn't that the joke claim in the first episode guide?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 22 November 2003 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

my wife doesn't like it, but I think that's because she had to work with someone who quoted it day and night (same reason many people probably can't stand Python anymore), and that person is no longer her friend.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 22 November 2003 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The cash register is the monthly cost of raising a baby in the US circa 1990, which according to's LISA (List of Inquiries and Substantive Answers) is $847.63.


Leee Majors (Leee), Saturday, 22 November 2003 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link


NRA4EVER is from the 138th Episode Spectacular in response to conservative accusations that The Simpsons are/were the most liberal show on the air.

Leee Majors (Leee), Saturday, 22 November 2003 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That'll be $30 please. I accept paypal.

Leee Majors (Leee), Saturday, 22 November 2003 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Leee, does Matt know you go on interweb mentalist boards and claim ownership over his stuff? ;-)

I am the ILx-ly incarnation of Matt Groening, heathen! I excommunicate you with dogs! Pay me my tithes already!

Leee Majors, Vicar of Groening (Leee), Saturday, 22 November 2003 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Futurama is far better than the Simpsons. How can you go past:

Bender: "Look, Fry! I'm steering with my ass!"
Fry: "That's the greatest thing I ever saw!!"

Simpsons - I can't think of a favourite ep. Anything out of the mouths of Milhouse, Ralph or Grandpa makes it all worthwhile.


katharine (katharine), Saturday, 22 November 2003 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

When Maggie is swiped it says No Sale or $847.63

Dante-Cubed (Sean3), Saturday, 22 November 2003 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate it

stevem, Sunday, 23 November 2003 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link


robin (robin), Sunday, 23 November 2003 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I always think I don't particularly like it then I sit down and watch it with my son (who really likes it) and I find that I think it's great but then I go back to thinking I don't like it much and can't be bothered sitting down to watch it when I'm by myself (this may be more of a problem I have with being sufficiently motivated to watch TV).

David (David), Sunday, 23 November 2003 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The past few seasons I haven't liked it as much to the point that if I miss an episode, I don't care at all. The show has lost its heart and the humor just is nowhere near as brilliant as it used to be. King of the Hill is better these days.

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 23 November 2003 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait wait, hold up. No Futurama, no Family Guy, but they still make King of the Hill?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 23 November 2003 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait wait, hold up. No Futurama, no Family Guy, but they still make King of the Hill?

Yeah, I know!

Aja (aja), Sunday, 23 November 2003 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

This season is the WORST EVER!!
When I'm listening to the radio and a Simpson's promo comes on, the soundbytes that they have from the show sound so fucking stupid. Like the one for the Halloween special where Homer goes "There's a reason it's America's number one participant sport!" or something; SO STUPID.

Dan I., Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Homer goes "There's a reason it's America's number one participant sport!" or something; SO STUPID.

I'm not so sure that this season is the worst, but when they had that on the radio, I didn't quite get it.

Aja (aja), Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

King of the Hill is a terrific show! Why should they stop? (Not that Futurama or Family Guy should have been cancelled, obv.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

As an actual "sit com", King of the Hill is superior to both The Simpsons and Futurama.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, a friend of mine thinks that - probably because the characters are far more realistic.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, anyone could have a friend as stupid as Dale.

Aja (aja), Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait wait wait, NO ONE liked the Eva Peron spoofing episode from last week?!?!?! What's wrong with you people?!?!?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Tonight's episode was typical "Simpsons do wacky things in another country; aforementioned country's customs and foibles get predictably needled; stupid slapstick occurs" nonsense, but the rerun that followed had me dying with laughter. (Then again, I am the type of person who is easily amused by Homer attempting to rap along to Chaka Khan's "I Feel For You".)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

some of the newer episodes seem to suck on first viewing but improve on subsequent viewings. the Angry Dad episode made me nearly piss my pants when i saw it again recently

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 24 November 2003 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but tonight's episode had a Ryan Giggs reference in it!!!!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 November 2003 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

THe wife just bought Simpsons Road Rage for PS2. Really fun for 3 hours. No replay value.

Whereas Simpsons: Hit & Run is more fun than a tank of nitrous and a sack of monkeys. Infinite replay value. Hell, you can spend hours just exploring the town.

I loved the Prisoner reference in the Movementarian episode.

Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Monday, 24 November 2003 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Tonight's England episode was absolutely the dregs (not sure, tho, whether I liked it or not when Pygmalion became an excuse for a gay British make-out session), but I for one think the season's been going at a pretty good clip.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 24 November 2003 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really think of The Simpsons in "seasons". Doesn't it all just spill continuously out of some global Sunday evening funny pipe?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 November 2003 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link


Leee Majors (Leee), Monday, 24 November 2003 06:44 (seventeen years ago) link

In the Uk new episodes trickle thru most weeks but are served up with repeat episodes which could be anything from the 13 (or 14?) previous seasons...which can be cool as you never know when you might luck out with Mr Plow, Marge vs the Monorail, 'Dental Plan' etc.

i absolutely cannot watch the latest episodes as i've said before - i don't think a show like this is meant to go on as long as this one has and the attempts to do something fresh always come off 'half-cock' to me. old jokes cynically rehashed mutter mutter, characters lost all charm yadda yadda, saw a clip of the new one where they visit England - Tony Blair is there to greet them at the airport, Homer gives him a dollar...sigh...

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That doesn't sound good at all (in the way that the funniest moment will be if some knobjockey complains, a la the Brazil episode). I am intrigued by the Ryan Giggs reference however. What does it say?

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

the Brazil one didn't sound funny either tho i haven't seen it. i look back at the Australia one and i still find it deeply hilarious but also quite bizarre and i never really understood why it seemed to be so inertly brutal in just totally taking the piss out of them (tho Groening confessed he had no real idea what Australia was like at the time which i actually find a bit sad)

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The Eva Peron episode last week was the requisite one funny episode of the season, there's no point watching again until next year.

King of the Hill kicks all y'alls asses. I've said this before, but I think it's weird when people trash the Simpsons because they say it doesn't have "heart" anymore, but then they don't watch KOTH, which has more "heart" than the Simpsons ever had, and plus, it's now funnier than the Simpsons. Peggy fucking rulz.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 24 November 2003 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link


Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Monday, 24 November 2003 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it would have been interesting if the characters were permanently stuck in the late 80s

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:39 (three years ago) link

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:40 (three years ago) link

We already know what kind of music Richard Sakai likes.

JRN, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:40 (three years ago) link

Is there an expiration date for copyright lawsuits? Because apparently it took this guy 24 years to realize The Simpsons "stole" his character from The Goodfellas.

― Tuomas, Monday, October 27, 2014 12:58 AM (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"The Goodfellas"

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:43 (three years ago) link

fully expect everyone to gradually die off/get fired at which point show will be entirely automated/AI-script driven

they must easily have enough voice samples of the cast on file for every possible eventuality, and god knows the scripts have felt computer-generated for years at this point, so it's gonna happen

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:43 (three years ago) link

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:47 (three years ago) link

I've been listening to too much Chapo Trap House, they've referenced that gag many times

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:48 (three years ago) link

i think it would have been interesting if the characters were permanently stuck in the late 80s

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:39 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc Homer is supposed to be 38 years old, so he is now p much a millennial

soref, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 23:19 (three years ago) link


frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 23:23 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Does anyone here still watch the Simpsons? I haven't seen a full episode since the end of season 10. I still really liked most of season 10, just stopped watching due to life reasons, mainly. I've subsequently heard most people say season 10 was the last good season. Either I was really lucky in choosing when to stop, or my post-season 10 perception is wrong.

So I guess my question is, when did the show reaaalllly fall off the cliff? Season 11, 12, later? I own seasons 3-10 on DVD. I'm going to start re-watching them soon, as it's been many years since I've last done so.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:12 (three years ago) link

Here's what you missed

Lisa Simpson was killed by a massive brain hemorrhage after being struck in the head by a "non-lethal" round fired by a private security firm during a protest over the Dakota Access Pipeline in early 2016. Her death was ruled "accidental." She didn't vote.

— Jacob "Blockchain" Bacharach, LLC (@jakebackpack) February 22, 2018

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:03 (three years ago) link

I think the season 13 dvd set was when I realised, "This is actually a chore, I am not going to buy these anymore."

too notch (stevie), Friday, 23 February 2018 09:24 (three years ago) link

I've watched a few new episodes recently and imo the show is slightly less terrible than at its nadir (which I'd say was about 10 years ago) but also feels even more disconnected from 1990s Simpsons, it's just like a generic comedy cartoon now. the best jokes in the new episodes are generally bits that don't include any of the regular characters or anything specific to The Simpsons, the fact it's The Simpsons is now actively an impediment to it being any good

soref, Friday, 23 February 2018 09:49 (three years ago) link

really weird to think that, with more than 600 episodes of the simpsons out there, i've probably seen less than half of them and that while a decent chunk of those episodes are some of the best tv ever made, i have no desire to seek out any of the ones i've missed out on

can't think of any other tv show that has that distinction

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 10:12 (three years ago) link

Last of the Summer Wine is the only thing I can think of with a similar ratio of great/terrible episodes

soref, Friday, 23 February 2018 10:23 (three years ago) link


nashwan, Friday, 23 February 2018 11:41 (three years ago) link

1998, for me, was the last season with good episodes outnumbering bad; so I like to imagine that it was canceled that year out of respect for the memory of Phil Hartman.

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:46 (three years ago) link

that's one of those challops which might actually be true but which no force on earth could conceivably make me attempt to verify or refute xxp

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 February 2018 11:47 (three years ago) link

looking again at the number of epiosodes, the % of Last of the Summer Wine that's good is probably lower than the % of The Simpsons that's good (though this will surely change if they keep making new episodes of the latter for much longer) but seriously, Last of the Summer Wine was great, certainly until Michael Bates left, and if they'd stopped it after 12 episodes or something they did with Fawlty Towers and Porridge etc then I think people would regard it as up there with them in quality.

I used to be of the opinion that it didn't matter that they kept making The Simpsons long after it stopped being funny rather than cancelling it, that the good episodes were still good so what was the problem, but it's annoying that whenever I see it on TV there's now a 70% chance that it will be one of the bad episodes. why do they even bother repeating the new episodes? just repeat the 90s episodes on a loop

soref, Friday, 23 February 2018 14:34 (three years ago) link

soref pretty otm there. I catch an episode or two each year and they're honestly not all that bad, but they're definitely better when they're not actively trying to appeal to the old fans by bringing back one-off characters from 20 years ago. it plays like Simpsons fan-fiction now and I think the same exact crew making a totally different show would probably be a lot better, but what can ya do

frogbs, Friday, 23 February 2018 14:42 (three years ago) link

last new Simpsons i saw was a retro episode where they actively ruined a beloved episode from the earlier seasons. "Kamp Krustier" revisited the season 4 episode and had a storyline about Bart & Lisa having PTSD from the experience. it was needless, unnecessary, unfunny, and ultimately pointless (the source of their PTSD was seeing a kid die, and it goes away when they realize it never happened).

i caught another new episode and in it Homer became a rap mogul and was also paired with a pet goose and the whole thing was embarrassing and tryhard

the movie was good tho. last decent thing they did

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 February 2018 15:58 (three years ago) link

It's so ridiculous to me how easy it would be to make and market an amazing Simpsons season in the "peak TV" era.

Maybe there's just some sort of contractual deal to keep things cheap/easy/uncomplicated or some bureaucratic reason the wrong person or persons is in charge of the wrong thing or things. Ultimately, who cares tho

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 23 February 2018 16:23 (three years ago) link

We dooo. We dooo.

nashwan, Friday, 23 February 2018 16:25 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

The History of Hans Moleman:

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:06 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

liquors drunkened me

pharma chameleon (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 August 2019 10:22 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Jesus christ this "addressing the racism of Apu" episode is fucking painful

And racist

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:21 (one year ago) link

one month passes...
two months pass...

Pretty accurate.

Wish they'd done a few more characters (Flanders, Frink). It's been so long since I watched, I don't recognize the top middle guy.

clemenza, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:42 (one year ago) link

I cannot for the life of me stop watching this video

frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:55 (one year ago) link


Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 23 March 2020 18:02 (one year ago) link

is that a VR warp


budo jeru, Monday, 23 March 2020 19:04 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Come for the episode review, stay for the oddly monotone socialist tract:

Nhex, Thursday, 2 July 2020 05:03 (ten months ago) link

xp How about they fire the people who defended that shit in 2018?

i like renegade cut's video on left behind.

wasdnous (abanana), Thursday, 2 July 2020 05:13 (ten months ago) link

like matt “friend of epstein” groening? good idea

six months pass...

how I feel

Evan, Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:42 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

something profoundly wrong about this, imo they should have had the characters age in real time a la Doonesbury or Gasoline Alley, Homer should be pushing 70

Homer was now a teenager in the late 90s, meaning his hypothetical birthday is later than Bart's was at the start of the show.
Homer is now younger than Bart.

— Caleb (@NessMudkip) March 12, 2021

soref, Saturday, 13 March 2021 16:38 (one month ago) link

I think certain long-running newspaper cartoon strips are maybe the closest equivalent to the Simpsons in terms of things that were brilliant at one point, but then stagger on zombie fashion for decades afterwards - maybe the Simpsons will eventually get its own version of that woman who made Nancy good again?

(though the zombie newspaper comic strips are sometimes more interesting than modern Simpsons because they become focused on one weird crochety old cartoonist's various obsessions and quirks rather than being produced by committee)

soref, Saturday, 13 March 2021 16:58 (one month ago) link

i'd say the most likely return of "good simpsons" would be a spin-off focused on a single character that could exist outside of canon and the rules of the show and follow a single creator/pair of creators vision with a different art style. I don't know how many years away from that we are, maybe when they have to change the voice actors.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 13 March 2021 17:22 (one month ago) link

Yeah I mean South Park is also in this situation, it’s on like Season 26 or something but it’s never had an extended run that was particularly good or bad. The problem the Simpsons has is it’s been so mediocre for so long that everything after Season 8 or 9 just doesn’t register, so like if you go on Bortposting it’ll only be references to 25 year old episodes, because they just assume everyone stopped watching after that.

That said if they got a decent writing staff nobody would care but idk how many talented tv writers would want to work on the Simpsons right now

frogbs, Saturday, 13 March 2021 17:27 (one month ago) link

every sitcom writing class ever involves the room collaboratively writing an episode of the simpsons afaict so i think literally anyone could do it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 13 March 2021 17:31 (one month ago) link

agreed that... why would Fox change the formula now? the ratings have been in slight decline, but to me more remarkably steady for the past 20 years

Nhex, Saturday, 13 March 2021 23:30 (one month ago) link

one month passes...


Holy shit, John Swartzwelder has given an actual interview. "Assembling a writing staff for a new show is difficult to do, because you’ve got to find people who are great at their jobs but who can’t find work anywhere.”

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) May 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 May 2021 16:59 (four days ago) link

Words to live by: "Write what makes you laugh. At least you’ll get a laugh out of it."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 May 2021 18:33 (four days ago) link

would love to read the Swartzwelder Fearless Fosdick script.

JoeStork, Sunday, 2 May 2021 19:56 (four days ago) link

prob done on the back of the Dick Tracy movie's success? Yeah, i would've loved to see that too.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 2 May 2021 20:00 (four days ago) link

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