TS: SHOWGIRLS vs. ROAD HOUSE

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The true cinematic issue of our time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

Ned wins.

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:12 (twenty years ago) link

SHOWGIRLS

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:13 (twenty years ago) link

One time when a bunch of us where watching Showgirls when it got to the scene where Kyle MacLachlan's laying in bed with his ass sticking out, my friend Jefferson froze the screen and said "What I need to do is get a big blow-up of that dark space between his legs and cover an entire wall with it. When people ask me what the mural is of I'll say 'KYLE MACLACHLAN'S SCROTUM!'"

I still haven't seen Roadhouse all the way through.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

But can you at least sing the Ben Gazzara song?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

I swear I've seen the end a million times on TV but that's really about it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:16 (twenty years ago) link

Hm, you haven't seen/heard the bad Motown covers, then.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:17 (twenty years ago) link

You know that scene where they imply that Nomi is going to be a big star in the tradition of LaToya Jackson and Paula Abdul? They totally imply Paula Abdul starred in topless musicals on broadway! I swear, Showgirls totally slanders Paula Abdul's good name!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

BROADWAY? wtf I mean vegas.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:21 (twenty years ago) link

You people are sad. Roadhouse is a cinematic classic for three obvious reasons:
1) Patrick Swayze being 'tough'
2) Jeff Healey, Canada's greatest blind guitar player ever
3) This exchange between them:

JH: I thought you'd be bigger.
PS: Yeah, I get that a lot.

Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:32 (twenty years ago) link

Random IMDb trivia about Elizabeth Berkley:

Once sat next to a man on an international flight who watched Showgirls on his in-seat video screen and never recognized her.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 04:21 (twenty years ago) link

there's a patrick swayze baby, but no kyle mclaughlin baby.

that's my answer.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 04:22 (twenty years ago) link

"Showgirls" wins, and I haven't even seen it. What decides it? Believe it or not, KILLING JOKE have a track ("Hollywood Babylon") on the soundtrack (unavailable elsewhere). Huzzah!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

I want to hate Jeff Healey, but I can't because he owns a bar.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 04:41 (twenty years ago) link

The obvious answer is BARB WIRE.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:13 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't seen Roadhouse, but Showgirls is my second or third favorite film of the '90s. So it probably wins,

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:23 (twenty years ago) link

Bless you, Alex. I love reasons like those as deciding factors.

Casuistry is insane, but how insane?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:37 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and this question is not answered until Nicolars posts, at least.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:37 (twenty years ago) link

But why have BARB WIRE when you can have TANK GIRL?

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:44 (twenty years ago) link

We were talking about Showgirls and Roadhouse, not these feeb pretenders to the throne.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:46 (twenty years ago) link

what kind of a fucking airline screens Showgirls as its in-flight movie?!

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 06:47 (twenty years ago) link

"would you like some potato chips to go with the naked dancing?"

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 06:48 (twenty years ago) link

"sir, you have to raise your meal tray now..."

"but... I CAN'T!!!"

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 06:56 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, where is larcole?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 06:57 (twenty years ago) link

"Mommy, what's the naked lady doing in the pool?"
"See below us, honey? That's Pittsburgh!"

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 06:58 (twenty years ago) link

"The landing of Norwest Flight 319 will be delayed until the two-and-one-half hour inflight movie has completed."

and then everyone in the plane gets into quoting the film...

"stewardess, do you have any extra pillows?"
"you can FUCK me when you LOVE me."

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 07:03 (twenty years ago) link

Old Lady to passenger next to her: "Where are you from?"
Other old lady throws french fries into the air: "Different places!"

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 07:06 (twenty years ago) link

I'm erect. Why aren't you erect?

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 07:13 (twenty years ago) link

Time to bump this a bit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

This question is like asking which of your children you love the most. I refuse to choose!

Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

The mullet-count in Roadhouse is through the roof, so that one, natch.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

Dudes, the Swayze rules. Therefore Roadhouse. Plus Terry Funk is in it.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

Obviously, none of you have had the pleasure of viewing the classic Polish new wave surrealist film Dosta Veild me Kroschka (Old Habits Die Hard) or you wouldn't bother with your bourgois ironic film love. This heartbreaking classic tells the tale of a young strawberry merchant who dreams of becoming the official biographer for a famous novelist, played by beloved Polish actor Ivan Scheerkov (mostly noted for his work on the stage). The use of split screens and fruit-related imagery transcend any technique used in your beloved Showgirls or Roadhouse. I would like to see Patrick Swayze express the complex emotions invoked when a mentor crushes your last strawberry beneath his heel and pushes you into a gutter streaming with sewage, which fades into a speeding river filled by the torrential monsoon rains. I would like to see that indeed!

Broken Record (brokenrecord), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

Can't I just wish to see Swayze pushed into a gutter streaming with sewage?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

THe 100 year storm didn't kill him, I doubt raw sewage would do it. He'd surf right out of that shit homeslice.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

He's no Kurt Russell...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

roadhouse has bloooze - fuck that!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

Late eighties bloooze at that. The music NOBODY likes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

micheloeb liked it

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

Nobody likes Micheloeb either.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

that's the truth!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

Wisdom has been achieved!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

haven't seen roadhouse. but my old flatmate and i used to do the thing that nomi does in a criss-cross over her face. very glam.

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

"Pain don't hurt."

Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

if Swayze was in Roadhouse he would have totally banged her. Then they would have danced off together to "Time of My Life"

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

Interesting mistake there, Chris.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

haha - chris wants to fuck patrick swayze

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

wrong outsider dude

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

grr. ;)

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

pony boy

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

As much as I love this movie (and I really, really love this movie) my bare-bones DVD is all I need.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 23 September 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

And having done the one movie, Vinegar Syndrome just announced the other!

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/showgirls

A VSU we've been working on for over a year, and the biggest film yet to grace the line, Paul Verhoeven's cult sensation, feast for the senses, and all around madness, SHOWGIRLS is at last coming to UHD in an edition worthy of its splendor. Featuring hours of archival interviews, BTS material, commentaries, and more, among them plentiful never before seen material. Plus we’ve added a slew of fresh interviews with cast and crew, along with critical pieces examining the production and impact of this landmark film. Furthermore, we’ve performed extensive exclusive restoration using the source files from Paul Verhoeven’s supervised color grade to ensure a presentation which looks exactly as intended, but without any of the digital manipulation which has notoriously plagued other releases.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

LOL, my workplace blocked that link, as well they probably should

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

Is there a rundown somewhere online of the specific digital manipulation?

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

You got me. Might have to look around for it! Anyway I preordered this of course. Forgot to mention that last year I saw an Alamo Drafthouse one-off showing of this -- an actual FILM print, and one that was from outside the US as well. Made for a different experience, and I think a couple of changes in dialogue too but I wasn't sure...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

I didn't get to see it in the theater in its original run, so it would not surprise me in the slightest if there's an even harder NC-17 version out there that's been quietly swept under the rug (until now).

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

Honestly the thing that leapt out to me was that I thought other celebrities than Paula Abdul etc were mentioned at one point, in that that spiel comes up a couple of times. But it didn't happen in all cases, which was even weirder!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

Janet Jackson def mentioned in every version I’ve seen

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

I’m incredibly tempted by this but not sure about the looks I would get from my family…

Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link

watching Road House for the first time. WOW this is a weird movie!

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link

are there really bouncers who are so legendary people that work in bars know them in other states?

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

also why does Ben Gazarra drive so intentionally poorly

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

This is part of the mystery and wonder that is that film.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

it's so delightfully bonkers. knife fights every night at the bar!!! bankruptcy-level destruction every night! Jeff Healey as the house band!

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link

a bar named after taking a gigantic dump!

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

this movie's a repository of quality baritone speaking voices, cotdamn

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

"JC Penney is coming here because of me!"

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

damn Sam Elliott started to say "cunt" then stopped himself

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

Denise honey Jeff can't see you gyrating

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

careful, Dalton, that's a Narn soldier!

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

I like how Sidekicks is the VSU sandwiched between Roadhouse and Showgirls in the VS release schedule

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link

are there any fucking police in this town. like they say Jasper paid em off but I haven't even SEEN ONE

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link

also why does Ben Gazarra drive so intentionally poorly

― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:44 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

bizarro gazzara

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 March 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Okay, the details of what's extra on the Vinegar Syndrome Showgirls release have been announced -- importing some old faves like David Schmader's commentary plus a whole lotta other things:

3-disc Set: 4K Ultra HD / Region A Blu-ray x2
4K UHD presented in High-Dynamic-Range
Newly restored by Vinegar Syndrome from an existing director approved 4K studio master
Includes original 5.1 surround and 2.0 stereo soundtrack options
"The Greatest Movie Ever Made" - commentary track with writer David Schmader
"More Vegas Than Vegas" - an interview with director Paul Verhoeven
"You Gotta Gamble if You’re Gonna Win" - interview with screenwriter Joe Eszterhas
"All that Glitters: Filming Showgirls" - interview with cinematographer Jost Vacano & Performance Lighting Designer Peter Morse
"The Rhythm of Chaos" - interview with co-editors Mark Helfrich & Mark Goldblatt
"Born to Dance" - interview with actress Rena Riffel
"Free Lap Dance with Every Large Popcorn: The Cult of Showgirls" - interview with Midnight Mass Podcast hosts Peaches Christ & Michael Varrati
Special ‘Behind-the-scenes’ Featurette
A Showgirls Diary
Lap Dance Tutorial Featuring the World-Famous Girls of Scores
Original trailer
40-page perfect bound book with essays by Elizabeth Purchell, Abbey Bender and Adam Nayman
Reversible sleeve artwork

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 May 2023 04:25 (ten months ago) link

Oh yeah the link:

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/showgirls

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 May 2023 04:25 (ten months ago) link

Region A? I was sure this was going to be Region Free.

that's a bummer....

my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 26 May 2023 15:13 (ten months ago) link

You must conform to us like all good Americans, aka everyone in the world despite your so-called 'nations.' (I might have this wrong.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 May 2023 15:19 (ten months ago) link

seven months pass...

Trailer for the roadhouse remake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKC4RL--jkc

jbn, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:05 (two months ago) link

I hate to admit it, but...that looks good and I will watch it.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:58 (two months ago) link

See now I'm trying to imagine an exploding boat chase on the lake in the original, which is really the only thing it lacks.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:12 (two months ago) link

is Jake nude in it

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:14 (two months ago) link

Why did I know this news would bring you here. Anyway about these road houses in the Keys.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:32 (two months ago) link

Does Bonamassa play the Jeff Healey part?

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:38 (two months ago) link

Also: Here's to hoping that Amazon/MGM also greenlights a similar reboot of Taffin.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:44 (two months ago) link

Lukas Gage and Billy Magnussen in the same movie, I feel like they must go out for the same roles a lot

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:48 (two months ago) link

I like Jake, but I suspect, just as Adam Sandler chooses projects based on where he wants to vacation, Jake always has something lined up that will pay for a personal trainer.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:48 (two months ago) link

lol

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:54 (two months ago) link

noted piece of shit Conor McGregor being in this kills a lot of the appeal.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:04 (two months ago) link

Not if we get to see him getting the shit kicked out of him

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:12 (two months ago) link

Yeah, his equivalent in the original movie gets his throat torn out by Patrick Swayze, so that's worth seeing at least.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:14 (two months ago) link

Swayze was nude in the original (but not in the throat-ripping-out scene)

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 26 January 2024 05:39 (two months ago) link

Conor McGregor, really? Whose dumb idea was that?

omar little, Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:30 (two months ago) link

They thought he'd be perfect for the role bc of the sexual assault allegations, random sucker punching of random people who offend him, anti-immigration comments, etc?

omar little, Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:32 (two months ago) link

They sold it to him as a documentary

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:40 (two months ago) link

See Conor part of method acting as we have to beat the shit out of you for real

omar little, Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:50 (two months ago) link

(*is)

omar little, Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:50 (two months ago) link

Mystified by this sudden convergence of reactionary politics and Hollywood action movies

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Saturday, 27 January 2024 16:00 (two months ago) link

Fun fact: Doug Liman's dad served as the chief counsel for both the New York state commission for the Attica Prison riot and the investigation of the Iran-Contra Affair.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 January 2024 17:02 (two months ago) link

Mystified by this sudden convergence of reactionary politics and Hollywood action movies

Was gonna say, yeah, in what world does a Roadhouse remake NOT cast a Connor McGregor?

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Sunday, 28 January 2024 04:03 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Forget this reboot, I want a documentary on the backstory:

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/road-house-remake-drama-verbal-abuse-distribution-plans-jake-gyllenhaal-1235909744/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:33 (two months ago) link


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