― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 08:27 (twenty years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:30 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:39 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:43 (twenty years ago) link
"waitress?"
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:46 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:49 (twenty years ago) link
There are two ways racists stop being racists: they meet someone of another race that they bond with and get over it, or they DIE.
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:59 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:00 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:04 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:05 (twenty years ago) link
If you're white prole scum wearing this season's shoulder-chip, I don't really care about hurting your feelings or making you feel like I'm some kind of asshole because I've had the audacity to correct your lunatic ravings in public. Plus, you're also giving me a free portion of misogyny with your racism because you will inevitably be pissed off because SOME GURL has corrected you in front of your equally stupid mates. Also when I hear 'Pak!' as a term of abuse, I've often asked the person what part of Pakistan the object of the insult is from. They are often stumped, especially if the answer is actually India or Somers Town or something. Also popular around Brick Lane: 'actually Bangladesh hasn't been called East Pakistan since '71, you knob. Get over yourself.'
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:10 (twenty years ago) link
the term "white liberal guilt" is a great signifier, isn't it? out of the three words, only the first applies to me. I don't feel guilty because someone else who happens to share skin pigmentation w/me acts stupid. Not ever, I just feel annoyed because a/stupidity is annoying and b/said person is taking me into their confidence b/c they think i share their views about this MERELY BECAUSE I SHARE THEIR BLOODY SKIN PIGMENTATION.
Plus, what is this littlejohnish b/s world where complaining abt racists is actually worse than racism? That's fucking insane, that is.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link
Plus, what is this littlejohnish b/s world where complaining abt racists is actually worse than racism?
Not necessarily the same thing, but it can be just as bad.
When I was about nine or ten, one of the other mothers of the class decided to forbid her daughter from playing with me or going to my house because "Kate's parents are South African. That means that they are racist." The *assumption* that my family were racist due to their former nationality was a racist assumption.
That said, I think you *can* assume that someone using racial slurs *is* probably a racist. So my little story does not apply in this case... Anyway!
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:37 (twenty years ago) link
Apparently according to l'Etranger here, nobody likes a complainer, Norman, it totally fucks with the status quo.
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:38 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:40 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:40 (twenty years ago) link
Kate: in what aspects was it worse?
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:42 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:43 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:46 (twenty years ago) link
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:47 (twenty years ago) link
It was originally broadcast in 72 and is thankfully over very quickly, but it does annoy, when it's totally incidental to the story which is otherwise masterfully told and had me quite goosebumpy at the start of the final sequence.
― Alan (Alan), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link
Also when WHYSAB was reissued on Creation, it was called "Love Your Enemies", similarly irony-riddled.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:50 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:50 (twenty years ago) link
OK, this individual example is not "worse than South Africa" on a scale of racism, but it was just such shocking to see racism applied on a social and economic scale the same as if it were institutionalised. Having racism out in the open makes it much easier to fight or combat. Having covert and hypocritical racism seems just so much more insidious.
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 10:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:01 (twenty years ago) link
mmmm, this kind of middle-class elitism is barely better than racism or misogyny. i am the aforementioned "prole scum" and am pretty offended by this - anyhow, i´m on a deadline so am not going to get too deep into this.
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:08 (twenty years ago) link
I know that at nearly 40 I should be able to tune stupidity like this out
Absolutely not - the sooner everyone calls racists what they are the better.
― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:18 (twenty years ago) link
I don't understand the association you're making between class and racism. Some 'proles' -- and I've heard that used with such hate that it can never for me be 'descriptive -- are racist; but so are many of the middle class, even if they don't use racist language.
― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:20 (twenty years ago) link
Does 'prole' ever get used except as a derogatory term for working-class people?
(xpost with Enrique)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:22 (twenty years ago) link
Argh.
It is Friday afternoon, I still have a residual hangover, and we're talking about racism, classism and sexism. TOO HEAVY!!! TOO HEAVY!!!
I'm off to go hang out on the crush threads or something. Nigel, save me.
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:25 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:25 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:29 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:34 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:34 (twenty years ago) link
― kate (kate), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:37 (twenty years ago) link
It's right there in the name and everything.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Cherokees hating omelettes is such an outdated stereotype
― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Roger still posts here BTW. I bought his new(ish) band's album yesterday, it's pretty good
― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
what about that crazy Italian judge, who recently ruled that it was OK to incite hatred against the Roma, as he reckons they are all thieves?
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
lol 'hong kong garden' on bbc beijing olympic coverage
― DG, Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
http://freep.com/uploads/images/2008/07/saggychart0709.jpg
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
lol at disorderly contact
what about wearing shorts with no draws
― and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I want ZS to animate that graphic.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
dude in graphic is son of http://thingsgodtaughtme.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/mr-freeze.jpg
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
wait waht, lol
― HI DERE, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Dude, they'll be breaking out "Mr Wu Is a Window Cleaner Now" by the time the games actually start.
― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^
yeah, that's a real OMGWTF post there!
― Eisbaer, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
JOrdan, more like:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u252/TheBraxcave/DrManhattan.jpg
Which explains why he needs the boxers.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
MLS player explaining the on-field actions of another MLS player:
"He gets away with a lot of stuff because he's Blanco and he's from Mexico and he's a big name. But he can't do that stuff to any of my teammates.""
― dan m, Thursday, 10 July 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
COMEDY! http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/dallas-county-meeting-turns-ra.html
A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.
County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.
Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office.
Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud "Excuse me!" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a "white hole."
That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.
With video! http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6953163&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
that's got to be one of the stupidest stories I've ever heard. If the idiot commissioner and the judge don't know that that term has absolutely no racial ramifications, then they're fucking idiots.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
bogglin' at comparison of "black hole" to "jewing someone"
― bernard snowy, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I think this was posted on the Uncle Tom thread? At any rate, oh how I want to shake these guys.
― HI DERE, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Price needs to learn the difference between a "black hole" and a "black a-hole"...the former is a figure of speech; the latter describes jerks like him.
― and what, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Typical black reaction. You have to ask yourself - are these people REALLY that stupid. Unfortunately, the answer is yes, they REALLY are that stupid.
What happened to Dallas? Did they hire refugees from New Orleans to run the city?
No wonder the song "God Bless Texas" is so popular. The state needs all the help it can get, from anyone, including the big boss.
My goodness, it seems that Mr. Price needs sum edumacation vout the compression and densifications of stellar ojcectifacations. Go back to schoo; bozo and try this time to pass 5th grade science instead of making a career avout demonizing whitey
― and what, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, there's idiocy enough to go around for everyone on that link.
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
It seems our Creator was very niggardly when handing out brains to Price and Jones.
Casual Anti-Semitism: Was eating at a local Indian spot recently and got to chatting with the owner (it was a slow afternoon for them). A really nice, funny guy. Talk of the upcoming US Elections. He: "Obama won't win. You know why? Because the Jews won't let him win." I didn't know what to say. It spilled out of his mouth as simply as if he had said, " You know why I own a restaurant? Because I like to serve food." Needless to say, I've found it impossible to go back.
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
"You should all feel so famous for electing these Bozo's"
Their brothas elected them. But then what would you have excpected. These same jokers also fawn over Obama as if he were The New Messiah, coming to save the world.
― and what, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Face it, the one's that got shipped over from Africa weren't the Albert Einsteins. Look at the gene pool in this country. They were living in the jungle with stone tools. The smart ones caught the slow ones and sent them over. They were selected for hard work. There are some smart "black" people, sure. But not the rule. More cross breeding will help.
― and what, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link
John Wiley Price says dumb things a lot, but I still kind of like him. The worst part of his occasional misplaced outrage is the inevitable response from white talk radio hosts and columnists.
― milo z, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
when barack obomba is president this stuff will seem mild get ready for war, white folks the 3rd world is upon you
― and what, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
its really bizarre that two black guys in dallas would be so responsive to the possibility of racism in casual speech
― max, Friday, 11 July 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
After reading those comments I kind of can't wait for the inevitable white race riot.
― HI DERE, Friday, 11 July 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Can someone remind me what Roger's real name was? I have this fear that I might one day wind up writing/talking about his music without remembering which one is him.
-- nabisco, Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:36 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link
http://www.media.wmg-is.com/media/portal/media/cms/images/200807/waiting-in-vain--cover-art-large_1214935958225.jpg
― jaymc, Friday, 11 July 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
lol ezra pound
― Just got offed, Friday, 11 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
-- Bill Magill, Friday, July 11, 2008 3:40 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
good time to take a self-righteous stand!
― deej, Friday, 11 July 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
"self righteous" -great call
― Bill Magill, Sunday, 13 July 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
god if this keeps up ilx is going to turn into a whore
― max, Sunday, 13 July 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean hole, a black hole
ILX has turned into a singularity whence even light may not escape.
― libcrypt, Sunday, 13 July 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link
woops yeah i just meant regular-righteous good catch!
― deej, Sunday, 13 July 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Casual Anti-Semitism: Was eating at a local Indian spot recently and got to chatting with the owner (it was a slow afternoon for them). A really nice, funny guy. Talk of the upcoming US Elections. He: "Obama won't win. You know why? Because the Jews won't let him win." I didn't know what to say. It spilled out of his mouth as simply as if he had said, " You know why I own a restaurant? Because I like to serve food." Needless to say, I've found it impossible to go back.-- Capitaine Jay Vee, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:57 (2 days ago) Link
-- Capitaine Jay Vee, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:57 (2 days ago) Link
After some of the tactics the Clinton campaign tried in the primary, this is not an unreasonable point, but should be qualified as "Israel lobby". Of course, that's probably not precisely what he meant.
Most frustrating thing about the "black hole" video clip is that the anchors were too cowed to inject an explicit opinion or to state the objective fact that there is no nor has there ever been a racial connotation to that term.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 13 July 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2008/08/15/460Spain_gesture.jpg
you'd think they might've heard of this thing called 'the internet'
― DG, Saturday, 16 August 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link
andre agassi?
― darraghmac, Saturday, 16 August 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
no - chinese people, i think?
― Frogman Henry, Saturday, 16 August 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/aug/15/olympics2008.olympicstennis
― DG, Saturday, 16 August 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Racism in spain
― deej, Saturday, 16 August 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
So the racism in Spain falls mainly on the plain?
-- jaymc (jaymc), Monday, February 27, 2006 12:41 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link
It's seriously weird, the Spanish thing. A few weeks ago I was DJing at our night and I went to the bathroom, which is unisex, where there's a bathroom attendant guy, Simon, who is black. A Spanish guy and his girlfriend were ahead of me in the queue and as if out of boredom they started kind of taunting him and riling him and going "Africa, Africa......" etc.
Was just the most bizarre and fucking nasty racism from people who looked like students, I felt so angry I ended up telling the bouncer, who kicked them out.
-- Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:14 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link
proto HOOS
― deej, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
jk but seriously what the fuck is up with Spain
― deej, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eim29tQWAAEryRx?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
not a joke. i took that screenshot. you can try it yourself.