John Huston: C/D?

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
over-analytical answers preferred.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Sunday, 12 October 2003 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

im not sure if it is well known or not but The Unforgiven with Audrey Hepburn is wonderful.

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 12 October 2003 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

definite classic. i wholeheartedly encourage you to rent and watch The African Queen, Beat The Devil, Moby Dick, The Red Badge Of Courage, Heaven Knows, Mr Allison, The Misfits, The Maltese Falcon, The Night Of The Iguana, Casino Royale, Key Largo, The Treasure Of The Sierra Madre, Reflections In A Golden Eye, Fat City, The Asphalt Jungle, Under The Volcano, and Prizzi's Honor.plus, he acted in some great movies and wrote the screenplays for lots of other great movies. watch those too. um, yeah, just pick them all up while you're at it. that way you won't miss anything. okay? cool!

scott seward, Sunday, 12 October 2003 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic. Chinatown.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 12 October 2003 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

defines classic in an old-school stylee, filmwise.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 13 October 2003 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

though I have a hard time saying somebody has to see Key Largo and Casino Royale (both have great moments though, involving ugly fat people).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 13 October 2003 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

you are mad, anthony.(about key largo and casino royale not being must-sees.) and if you want new-school, rent Reflections In A Golden Eye and Fat City.(both ahead of their time as far as lurid/gonzo/gothic filmmaking goes for the former and gritty loserdom nihilist chic for the latter. plus the latter has susie tyrell in full-on freak mode)

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't think I haven't been looking in vain for copies of both in every videostore I find. I just don't want somebody to see Key Largo and think that Treasure Of The Sierra Madre, Prizzi's Honor and The African Queen aren't hella better.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 13 October 2003 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

The movies in your list that I've seen I'm so glad I did that everyone which I HAVEN'T embarasses me, though. Have you seen The Dead? Any good? Kael raves about it, but I'm curious for another take.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 13 October 2003 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I like the idea of Angelica Huston being in it. And I do kind of wonder how that story could be made into a film.

kirsten (kirsten), Monday, 13 October 2003 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

isnt he quite a rockist choice compared to someone like ...well just about anyone. him and ford

Vic (Vic), Monday, 13 October 2003 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

it doesn't always work. it's kinda hard to describe. but it's well worth seeing.i also hesitate to bring up backstory when i tell someone they should see a movie cuz i really feel that art should stand on its own.but the fact that he was dying, gasping for breath, when he made the film and that he was working with his children and that it is filled with such intense feelings of regret and loss, well, it's kinda hard not too. having said that, i much prefer Dawn of the Dead(the un-cut director's version-which calls forth many of the same emotions in me). but that's neither here nor there.

and anthony, you are right about the superiority of the films you mentioned over key largo. casino royale, however, is in a league of its own.

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 01:46 (seventeen years ago) link

hitchcock and welles are the rockists. i don't even know what i'm saying. rockist how? as an actor? a screeenwriter? as a director of pessimistic manifestos that laugh in the face of an unjust god?

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

as a director of
pessimistic manifestos that laugh in the face of an unjust god?


i made that part up.

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 01:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Masterlist says:

The Maltese Falcon (1941)
San Pietro (1945)
Key Largo (1948)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)
The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
The African Queen (1951)
The Red Badge of Courage (1951)
Moulin Rouge (1952)
Beat the Devil (1953)
Moby Dick (1956)
The Misfits (1961)
The List of Adrian Messenger (1963)
Reflections in a Golden Eye (1967)
Fat City (1972)
The Man Who Would Be King (1975)
Wise Blood (1979)
Prizzi's Honor (1985)
The Dead (1987)

These are all directing, btw. Definitely add Chinatown for acting props.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 13 October 2003 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

and his dad rocked too! check out Dodsworth or the Devil & Daniel Webster. or the Treasure of the Sierra Madre for that matter. and angelica is a great witch and a great grifter. that goes without saying. and watch son Danny direct burt reynolds and angie dickinson in the psycho-killer/extremely goofy ham roles of a lifetime in The Maddening.

okay, this lil' rockist is going to bed. nighty-night.

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link

oops. i forgot to mention wise blood! rent that tomorrow.(or Tentacles. or both.)

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

What does 'rockist' have to do with it? If it's good, it's good. Jeesh. "Oh, I would like him and cite him as one of my favorites, but that's just so cliche. Now, {insert not as heralded hoice here], HE'S a genius"

oops (Oops), Monday, 13 October 2003 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dead is wonderful, in a certain way, and Angelica has a lot to do with it. Would Pauline regard it as a 'small' film? Hmm.

frankie, Monday, 13 October 2003 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dead is, without exception (with the exception of The Exorcist II: The Heretic), the most tedious film ever made. It is also (unlike The Exorcist II: The Heretic) the most tedious film ever made by John Huston. You think being at a party with the Ireland's most boring Irish people would be dull? Try watching a party with the Ireland's most boring Irish people.

OTOH, The Maltese Falcon, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and The Man Who Would Be King all rule. Insert quote about "stinkin' badges" here.

lint (Jack), Monday, 13 October 2003 05:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know what rockist means, but welles is definitely NOT it.

but yeah, huston is totally classic: i've never understood why the auteur crowd scorned him so much. "the maltese falcon" was one of the first old movies i ever saw, when i was about 12: i remember i was so excited about it i repeated the entire plot, scene by scene, to one of my friends at school the next day. he wasn't very interested.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 13 October 2003 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link

lishten up peoples!! but yeah, welles is def not rockist

Vic (Vic), Monday, 13 October 2003 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i made up that part about hitchcock and welles being rockists too. i don't really know how to argue about things like that so i just make stuff up. i'm not all that well-versed in the whole ilm rockist phenomena. for the record, i am half irish and half english as well as half mod and half rocker.

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

John Huston, director and actor: classic as it gets. I wish to hell Fat City had been more popular, so I could locate a video of it. If you want to see the Huston touch made obvious, watch one or more of the versions of Maltese Falcon made before the Huston/Bogart version.

John Huston, human being: a dud more often than not. At one time or another he was a pure rat bastard to every single person he knew, whether friend, family member or colleague. He had a selfish streak a mile wide and a cruel sense of humor.

Aimless, Monday, 13 October 2003 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"At one time or another he was a pure rat bastard to every single person he knew..."

Is there anyone in the classic studio period of Hollywood that this line doesn't describe?

Clint Eastwood's movie "White Hunter, Black Heart" is a movie based upon Huston's exploits while making "The African Queen".

earlnash, Monday, 13 October 2003 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

HOLY FUCK A HUSTON DIRECTED THE MADDENING?!?!?!?!?!!!!!

I thought I felt some Beat The Devil shit in that.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 13 October 2003 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anybody here seen "Under The Volcano"? I've read a little bit about it, and it seems interesting.

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Monday, 13 October 2003 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"Is there anyone in the classic studio period of Hollywood that this line doesn't describe?"

I think Jimmy Stewart was a fairly decent human being, although I'm sure he was better some days than others.

Aimless, Monday, 13 October 2003 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Treasure is one of those movies you "have" to see that isn't really all that good when it comes down to it (it's all denoument, and weighed down by its racism). But I remember Beat the Devil and Prizzi's Honor as hilarious, and all his other movies that I've seen are great great great: The Maltese Falcon, Key Largo, The Man Who Would Be King, and his very best, The African Queen.

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 13 October 2003 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Jimmy Stewart was a fairly decent human being, although I'm sure he was better some days than others.

Well yeah, but there's a difference between having an 'off day' and being a total bastard to everyone consistently. The former can be excused as occasional; to be always cruel has to be in your psyche to begin with.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It just seems any bio of any classic Hollywood figure underlines the fact that they were either a complete drunk, psychotic, mean or all of the above.

I suppose this is true of any period of Hollywood, except insert drugs or oddball religious nut for drunk.

It seems that they point out that Audrey Hepburn was a pretty decent person, so with her and Jimmy Stewart, you have two. Everybody else was/is probably either drunk, psychotic, mean or all of the above.

Key Largo is great, considering the premise and setting, I'm suprised it hasn't been remade.

earlnash, Monday, 13 October 2003 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

another thing about huston, i've just realized: he had the absolute COOLEST speaking voice of all time.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 13 October 2003 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

humphrey bogart was supposed to be a nice guy.

scott seward, Monday, 13 October 2003 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Flash! Grace Kelly in drunken, psychotic, mean-spirited SHOCKAH!

Aimless, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Jimmy Stewart wasn't a nice guy! He was a rightwing McCarthyist scumbag.

And Audrey Hepburn strangled kittens (figuratively speaking).

lint (Jack), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

She masturbated?!?

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

That's one interpretation.

lint (Jack), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

possible nice guy = gregory peck (and if he wasn't, don't tell me, i'd rather not know)

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

another thing about huston, i've just realized: he had the absolute COOLEST speaking voice of all time.

c.f. Gandolf in The Hobbit cartoon

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

the Criterion disc of Wise Blood reveals that Huston said near the end of shooting, "I believe I've been had!" He thought he was doing an atheist's lampoon of evangelicals, then Flannery O'Connor and Jesus take over the last reels of the film.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

saw a video copy of this two years ago, kinda wanna see it again

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

also really dug The Dead.

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

C for Maltese Falcon, Key Largo, Sierra Madre, the Dead, Chinatown, his voiceover in the Hobbit, and Angelica. African Queen is crap though.

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

the only one i saw since this thread started that i really didn't feel was Night Of The Iguana, though I did enjoy Ava Gardner's surfside dance with the local boys. Reflections In A Golden Eye and The Misfits were half-if-not-more-ridiculous but still pretty awesome.

da croupier, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

reflections in a golden eye is insane

buzza, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

not enough people have seen fat city either

Michael B, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

I'll defend Prizzi's Honor too; it's got as many great lines as Goodfellas but never gets cited.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I am picking up wise blood DVD on the way home from work today

kind of psyched for this extra:

Rare archival audio recording of author Flannery O’Connor reading her short story “A Good Man Is Hard to Find”

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

after years watching of fuzzy washed-out vhs, restoration looks incredible

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/wiseblood.jpg

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, taht FO'C recording is a corker.

Dourif looks really scary in shots like that.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

i knew alfred was gonna post within two minutes and say just that!!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

You gotta keep me from posting shit like that!

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 May 2009 02:56 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

Fat City suffers a little from Susan Tyrrell's hamming and the gritty-loserville oppressiveness, but it gets great in the last 3 sequences. Also, Jeff Bridges is adorable.

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 October 2009 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

<3 The Man Who Would Be King <3

ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Thursday, 1 October 2009 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, she was a little too much. Kind of a hammy Ruth Gordon/Anne Meara performance. I liked Jeff Bridges expression when Stacey Keach insulted him at the end. What show did you see? I was at the 9:30.

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Somebody walking out was asking what was going on when SK had his Tony Soprano moment at the end and the camera froze and the sound died. I assumed it was the brain damage briefly kicking in, although maybe it was just a moment of philosophical contemplation.

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

susan tyrrell is awesome, i don't think the role of trainwreck barfly calls for understatement

velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's a moment of clarity, SK realizing that he is the burnouts he's surrounded by, or will be before long. And agree 100% with velko on Susan Tyrell. She's fucking awesome, and not at all unrealistic.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

She's TOO realistic!

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

I couldn't understand why either of even THOSE two guys would listen to her! She got the first Screech-Owl Oscar Nomination subsequently bestowed on Diane Ladd and Jennifer Tilly.

JR, I had totally forgotten about that non-freeze-frame moment, and apparently it was "a moment of philosophical contemplation" -- it was 2am on the set and Huston had a vision:

"Have you ever been at a party when for no reason everybody just stops? When all of a sudden it's all a tableau; you're alone in eternity for a moment? When Stacy turns around, I want everybody to just stop what they're doing." "Why, John?" Keach asked. "I have no idea," Huston answered. "Sometimes the devil just gets into me" "We can just freeze frame," Russ Saunders, the assistant director, suggested. "No, no, no," John said. "I want the cigarette smoke to continue going. I don't want it to look like a stock frame. I just want everybody to stop" (In Grobel, 1989: 638).

http://www.kinema.uwaterloo.ca/article.php?id=167&feature

I think Keach saw his certain fate flash before him. Huston wanted Brando (at 47) for that role!
Nicholas "Coach" Colasanto is splendid in it.

Longish 1972 Roy Blount piece in SI:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2001/movies/reviews/fat_city/

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

Stacy Keach is a very charmless actor too. Kael said that Susan Tyrell's perf was a perfect example of one so awful that it deserves an Oscar nod (Tyrell got one).

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

the performance is very Cassavetes-ish, so her not liking it is very much in character

velko, Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, add Gena Rowlands to that Oscar Excess list for aWUtI.

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 October 2009 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

Sit your rass down, Mabel!

"I want the cigarette smoke to continue going. I don't want it to look like a stock frame. I just want everybody to stop"

So it's like that one motion sequence in La jetée.

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 October 2009 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

Thought this was going to be about The Prowler, which he co-produced with Sam Spiegel and starred his ex-wife Evelyn Keyes.

Ole Rastaquouère (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Morbs was married?

filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

You'll have to ask him yourself.

Ole Rastaquouère (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

(I also can't sit still through the African Queen, nor Mogambo)

Ole Rastaquouère (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

TAQ sposedly looks great now, so I'll probably look at it again eventually despite my indifference.

I anticipate seeing The Prowler tom'w.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

TAQ is terrible

Wise Blood is tops tho

famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

Totally cornball, and the opening scenes with Robert Morley are practically camp, but this is still massively entertaining -- maybe the only time I'll accept two great actors giving broad, self-parodic performances.

six months pass...

Has anyone present seen Let there Be Light? Quite something.

Interior shop day an eager customer enters (admrl), Thursday, 30 September 2010 06:12 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

this treasure of the sierra madre bluray is BUTTER.

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:35 (ten years ago) link

god the ending is so wonderfully bleak, almost existentialist... just them laughing at the meaningless and chaos as the wind howls...

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:36 (ten years ago) link

I think Treasure is one of those movies you "have" to see that isn't really all that good when it comes down to it (it's all denoument, and weighed down by its racism).

Don't get this at all.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:38 (ten years ago) link

ya wtf

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:38 (ten years ago) link

That it's glib in parts and weighed down by Tim Holt's blank performance and Max Steiner's music I can take; but Bogart's decline is beautifully done (he's genuinely scary; his eyes light up more intensely every time he says "Fred C. Dobbs"), and watching him hunt Holt down as Holt slips into exhaustion gets under my skin every time.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:41 (ten years ago) link

well what's great is that it barely even IS a decline... you realize that's kind of how he's been since the beginning, his mask of civility has just slipped. i also really like how he rationalizes it to the end, acting like he's the real victim. reminded me of some conservative mofos i could think of

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:43 (ten years ago) link

also that bar fight is great eh... no music, just an awkward, uncomfortable, horrible fight

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:44 (ten years ago) link

i also like how the town at the beginning feels like this purgatory, full of these shambling lost souls who can't escape

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:44 (ten years ago) link

Pauline Kael said the town scenes represent the best twenty-minute sequence Huston ever directed.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:45 (ten years ago) link

they are really quite amazing. great great opening.

candid gamera (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:46 (ten years ago) link

well what's great is that it barely even IS a decline... you realize that's kind of how he's been since the beginning, his mask of civility has just slipped. i also really like how he rationalizes it to the end, acting like he's the real victim.

Yeah, and the beauty of Bogart's performance is you can believe he was once a pretty honorable guy, and still remembers to be one when the occasion demands it.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:47 (ten years ago) link

love this movie. i only saw it a month ago. i thought the ending was pretty life affirming and inspiring fwiw. like laughing and howling w rage and crying are all the same noise in the end, but theyre still laughing.

I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 01:59 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

"The Kremlin Letter" is A++. Also a fave of J-P Melville's.

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 11 February 2011 02:10 (ten years ago) link

haven't watched Treasure in years... good but overrated.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 February 2011 03:59 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

Saw The Misfits for the first time today--not sure why it's taken me forever. Except for the drunken 15-minute detour in the middle, the one time Gable was awful, I liked it. Everything before Clift's entrance was pretty good, and the mustanging stuff towards the end was excellent. Gable's never had much appeal for me, but he's okay; Clift is awkward at first, much better later on; Wallach and Ritter are good the whole way. I've always had (as odd as this may sound) more of a clinical appreciation of Monroe's beauty before seeing this--I never had any kind of a crush on her, like with Audrey Hepburn, say. But she really is astoundingly beautiful here.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:16 (nine years ago) link

I've always had (as odd as this may sound) more of a clinical appreciation of Monroe's beauty before seeing this--I never had any kind of a crush on her, like with Audrey Hepburn, say. But she really is astoundingly beautiful here.

there was some talk on another thread about this recently, i remember it p well but could watch it again for MM. it's kinda hard to separate her beauty, which is pronounced enough in a bunch of other films, from just her tragic 'aura' & associated magnetism in this.

(Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:49 (nine years ago) link

Meant to say that there's some weirdly self-referential stuff going on that was interesting. Clift's character talks about some big calamity he's on the mend from, and when Wallach's in the car with Monroe going 90, you can't help thinking about Clift's accident. Monroe has all the pin-ups of herself on the inside of the door. And even though I know elegiac westerns are always about the Death of Some Vanishing Way of Life, it also felt a little like Gable and that era of Hollywood being laid to rest.

One of the weaker things about the film is that 100 minutes into it, you've still got men sitting around analyzing Monroe's character aloud.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:12 (nine years ago) link

The only time I saw it (years ago) I was struck by how unaffectedly the star trio (and Thelma Ritter) hung out in conversation scenes.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:15 (nine years ago) link

Yes, especially the long scene when they first arrive at Wallach's house. And Huston's camera really catches Monroe hanging out at times, but I won't get into that.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:20 (nine years ago) link

also in the weird self-referentiality, tho extra-

the poignancy of the last lines, their being the last lines spoken on film by both actors

won't post them for the annoying spoiler!-shouting types

zvookster, Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:28 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Notable in the Mark Harris book is that some of the time Huston was in the army, risking his ass to shoot film for the War Dept, the guvmint was investigating whether he was a communist.

The Battle of San Pietro is gripping and notably pioneering in 'war-film' technique for the rest of the '40s and '50s, even tho nearly all of it is unacknowledged re-enactment.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 16:05 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

and Kael:

John Huston is an infinitely more complex screen artist than David Lean. He can be far worse than Lean because he’s careless and sloppy and doesn’t have all those safety nets of solid craftsmanship spread under him. What makes a David Lean spectacle uninteresting finally is that it’s in such goddam good taste. It’s all so ploddingly intelligent and controlled, so “distinguished.” The hero may stick his arm in blood up to the elbow but you can be assured that the composition will be academically, impeccably composed. Lean plays the mad game of super-spectacles like a sane man. Huston (like Mailer) tests himself, plays the crazy game crazy—to beat it, to win.

The worst problem of recent movie epics is that they usually start with an epic in another form and so the director must try to make a masterpiece to compete with an already existing one. This is enough to petrify most directors but it probably delights Huston. What more perverse challenge than to test himself against the Book? It’s a flashy demonic gesture, like Nimrod shooting his arrow into God’s heaven.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/film/92939/tnr-film-classics-the-bible-october-22-1966

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 December 2014 04:34 (six years ago) link

Print of The Bible was in real good shape but quite a bit of it looked lousy even tho Giuseppe Rotunno lensed it. The whole Eden segment had the lens smeared with Vaseline so they could get away with carefully framed nudity (and Eve had her cascading hair glued to her breasts it appeared). Richard Harris as Cain v close to Dave Thomas' version on SCTV.

Ava Gardner almost as good as Sarah as Geo C Scott is as Abraham in the second half. When Dino de Laurentiis was planning on it as a multidirector event, Orson Welles was supposed to do Abraham, and apparently he wrote most of it but either withdrew credit or didn't get it. Abraham takes Isaac through the ruins of Sodom on the way to almost getting sacrificed, and the boy sees tiny skulls and asks, "The children, were they wicked too?" Sounds Wellesian! Jehovah, what an asshole.

Huston as goofy slapstick Noah is somethin' ... seems he'd wanted Chaplin.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 21:58 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Last night at a film event Alec Baldwin relayed a Nicholson account of the Chinatown set where Polanski would "go on" at length between takes about what he wanted...

Huston would be staring at the table in front of him. He called Polanski RoMAHN, and said after several minutes, "RoMAHN, let's just do another one."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 May 2017 16:11 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

I'm haunted by that scene in Fat City when Stacey Keach is making some sad late supper for him and his gf which consists of shoe leather steak and some cold garden peas straight from the tin.

MoMsnet (calzino), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 07:52 (one week ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.