Boston -- Classic or Dirty Water?

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Tim H was explaining to me not long ago that all of the buildings in the centre of Boston are made of wood. Neither of us had been there, so it may not have been the most informed and accurate discussion of the subject ever.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 24 November 2002 21:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I still stand by my "hey, my one weekend in Boston and Cambridge was fun" statement. I think, like most cities, if you already know really good people there, that makes a crucial difference. Good people in Boston are really good people, from my experience.. maybe because of the stretching of good character that's required to deal with the, ahem, others.. or not.

Dan, whatever happened to smug Joker fisty guy?

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 24 November 2002 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

To Dan...if you want to see improvements that is different than people bashing it and acting like it is not worth their time because it sucks...and Mat Bo, I spent about 20 minutes on here the other night to defend my city that I miss so much, because I am away at school and saw this page...then I went out and had a blast, so thanks for your input...by the way, I like Rhode Island but I am not a Puritan....

Cass, Monday, 25 November 2002 03:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

other than traffic why do you like Philly better?

Less Bostonians.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 25 November 2002 03:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

as always, Ally hit it on the head.

that, and both Philly and Baltimore have better food than Boston. and that includes better seafood. yes, Bostonians, you read that right. so much for Boston Harbor!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 25 November 2002 03:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

anyway, Boston is the ultimate "little town w/ a big town attitude." so of course Bostonians are going to get knocked about a bit when they step to people from, say, NYC or Chicago or London. anyone who thinks that Boston is in the same league as NYC, Chicago, or London is out of their minds. It's especially ludicrous because so many Bostonians (IRL, not necessarily on ILX) have the absurd notion that Boston = center of the universe. Why, because of Harvard? Boston Harbor? The Red Sox? Puleaze.

Philly also has a "little town" attitude, though Philadelphians are more justified in that it's the fifth-largest city in the country. And they aren't as full of themselves and their town as Bostonians are.

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 25 November 2002 03:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

If your reason for thinking Boston is the center of the universe is the Red Sox then I weep for you.

Tad basically explained it anyway, to take things down to the serious level for a sec, because it's so true. I think it's a freaking Massachusetts curse, thinking yourself very bloody important. This is why all the people on this thread who are not from Boston but live there and think a lot of it sucks and should be changed think it sucks and should be changed. It seems kind of telling that the majority of the people who just luuuuuuurve Boston are born there and everyone else wants to blow it up?

Whatever, the Red Sox suck ass, that's what it is.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Great Cthulhu this thread has gone on...

Anyway, just to dog-pile on Boston some more I have to mention the word that a Maine-born friend of mine uses in reference to Bostonians:

Massholes

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't think there's much of a correlation between the quality of seafood and the quality of Boston Harbor, what with that body of water being so foul and off-limits for so long. Massachusetts Bay, maybe. I was born and bred in the area and I've seen the harbor like five times. It's still mostly blocked by buildings anyway unless for god sakes you really need to see it.

The glorification of "baked scrod" has to be the biggest Boston scam ever. But really, why would Philly have such good seafood? Is it the fish? The preparation? Tad?

Cass I'm really glad you had fun even though you weren't in Boston.

Mat Bo (Mat Bo), Monday, 25 November 2002 05:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I LOVE Boston and surrounding city area for precisely the reasons cited by Geeta in her praise post above.

I like the Bookstores records shops etc and found Boston much cheaper than NY for things when I was there next weekend. I found the people both friendlier and nicer (cab drivers and waiters). Maybe this is cause I was in Williamsburg NY the previous 2 days - and that place seems to breed horribleness.

Size? It takes only 25 min to get anywhere you need to go if you live sort of in the city. Compared to living in like Zone 2 or 3 or 4 of London for the same price? For all the time I spend commuting I don't have any time to enjoy the things London is supposed to be so great for - not to mention the fact that London does shut down at 1am as well.

Maybe when I hit my 30's I found find Boston's "young" population a bit annoying, but I certainly wanted ot move back there when I was there last weekend.

marianna, Monday, 25 November 2002 10:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

not to mention the fact that London does shut down at 1am as well.

what?? the point is that boston *completely* shuts down at 2am - whereas if i want to be out dancing in london til dawn i can do it any night of the week in any of dozens of places! and doubtless the same will be true of drinking come next summer, too.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe this is cause I was in Williamsburg NY the previous 2 days - and that place seems to breed horribleness.

Well, yes, if you're going to come to NY I'd suggest most anywhere BUT WBurg, especially now a days with all the trustafarians living there.

And yes, London does stay open all night, there's absolutely no difficulty in finding a place to go if you really need to - I defy any Bostonian to tell me an after hours bar there. They've only got ONE strip club you know.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I enjoyed my trip to Boston very much but I kind of fell in love a bit with NYC so that overshadowed the Boston element.

Best thing about Boston = excellent guides / hosts (thanks Marianna!), good record shops, hanging out with the Perrys.

I was pleased to find that it is not the centre of Boston which is made of wood. The brain box in which I keep my thoughts about Boston is wooden though.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

One more comment about the Red Sox........No need to bring them into this conversation. All this talk about Philly and Baltimore, christ two of the worst teams in all of baseball, and oh yeah those beloved Yankees and Mets really tore it up this year.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Go to chinatown after hours and you can find quite a few after hours bars. From the looks of this it seems that all Bostonians are getting labeled as massholes? Im not saying that Boston is the greatest city (thats reserved for Worcester ;) but it ain't that bad.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Erg. I was referring to the lack of subway after 1 am - not to mention the pubs shutting at 11. In both cities there ARE places you can go to well past 2 am to do your dirty deeds. NY is the city that never sleeps but London and Boston and pretty much every other US city I've been to, definately nods off around 1am.

marianna, Monday, 25 November 2002 16:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dan, whatever happened to smug Joker fisty guy?

I think he opened for The Clientele! (not really, alas)

Favorite part of the Clientele show was when the lead singer said, "Please turn up the reverb on my mic, there's a real singer in the house," in reference to me (???). I immediately shouted, "MORE FALSETTO!!!" He chuckled and said, "Yes, more out-of-tune, rubbish falsetto... Where's that reverb?" He was GREBT, though.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 November 2002 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the "real singer" was a reference to you Dan Perry!
Viva Mary Chung's!

marianna, Monday, 25 November 2002 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not one message referencing "More Than A Feeling?"

OK, than I'll do it.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Hitch a Ride"

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

RI = much much better than Boston. Now, if only Boston commuters would stop moving to Providence..
I had never been to Boston until this year.. and.. all the historical landmarks + the Isabelle Gardner (sp?) museum = classic, but.. wow ! why does everyone look the same & are all rich & wearing ribbed turtleneck sweaters ? why can't you buy a cool pair of shoes anywhere ? why is everyone in such a bad mood !?

daria g, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

All this talk about Philly and Baltimore, christ two of the worst teams in all of baseball,

Um, the Phillies and the Orioles have won World Series in my lifetime. Which is more than can be said for the Red Sox. Another plus for the Phillies and the Orioles: when their ballparks get run-down and go to seed, they tear them down and build new ones. (same criticism goes for the Cubs, too)

and oh yeah those beloved Yankees and Mets really tore it up this year.

At least the Yankees made it to the playoffs. And I hate the Mets, so I'm probably just as happy as you are that they sucked (and will continue to suck).

Tad (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 05:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

yep, they have one champioships in our lifetimes. but i think the sox have a better chance of winning one before either of those two teams do. Granted if the Phils get Thome, then it gets interesting. But their pitching staff does nothing for me. Neither does the Red Sox staff for that matter. When John Burkett is your number 3, there is plenty reason to worry. Ugh I hate being a Boston sports fan. Although my Bruins are tearing it up this year.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 12:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

god excuse my awful engrish up there. thats "won championships"

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 13:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

this thread won't die! and the phillies got thone!

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 7 December 2002 12:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...
http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/postcards/boston.jpg

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 09:25 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
i am so bored of boston, NYC is hipster trash these days. that is all.

kephm, Monday, 30 June 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

i jsut found $20 outside on the sidewalk. i love boston again

kephm, Monday, 30 June 2003 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, but you could have been living in your pad and getting your $20 worth of those few minutes of rent.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 30 June 2003 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

explain this "getting $20 to live in my pad for a few mintues"
paying rent doesnt bother me.

kephm, Monday, 30 June 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha, you have a local news reporter named Joe Shortsleeve. This is like having a weatherman with the given name "Storm."

I had fun, although I kept driving around in circles at the junctions of Route 1, I-95, 278(? -- the road that goes to Marblehead/Beverly) and 114 each time I tried to go from anywhere. It was the Blair Witch project of driving ("AIEEE!! We were just here!!) But now I understand why New Englanders give such strange directions: There is no such thing as a plain left turn, right turn, or a street that keeps its same name past more than a few lights. "Curl around right" is a valid and useful direction. And Dunkin' Donuts really is a very convenient landmark.

I think Mary would like Salem Willows. Skee Ball has gone up to 25 cents from a dime but it's still fun.

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

salem willows is a good time ; )
chet & natalie!

kephm, Wednesday, 9 July 2003 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
LOSERS!!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:29 (twenty years ago) link

Boston sucks ass!! Taste NYC's capitalism bitches!!!

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 03:32 (twenty years ago) link

I KISS YOU!

(and i use my amtrak bonus points to buy tix to boston TO PISS ON FENWAY PARK BOSTON BEYOTCHS!)

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

aw boston is great! i mean, it's cursed, but it's great!!

the yankees are mean bonecrushing robots

geeta (geeta), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:38 (twenty years ago) link

Whether Boston's classic or dud, it's never hard to remember why people hate Yankees fans.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

the yankees are mean bonecrushing robots

YEA! that is the awesomest comment ever!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

We're not really disproving the "Yankees fans are all assholes" theory here, are we? Anyway, I'm gonna come vomit on Fenway!!!!!!!!!!

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

yo, this outburst would've been NOTHING compared to the outburst had it been the Phillies that kicked Sox ass. that would've been world war IV!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

yo ally i may have enough amtrak bonus miles to pay for you, tom and others TO GO TO BOSTON AND DESECRATE FENWAY PARK!!

isn't that better than a stupid lobsterita?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

And most Red Sox fans would be doing the same thing if the tables were turned; New Yorkers are just more competent at being assholes.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:42 (twenty years ago) link

I just don't like Boston! I'm actually a Mets fan!!! You should totally get Tom and his friends to come, they'd really like pissing on Fenway.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 03:43 (twenty years ago) link

i was just blasting "takeover" -- SO APPROPRIATE RIGHT NOW!! -- and i swear to god, someone else in my apartment was just blasting "the final countdown" JEL IS GOD EUROPE R GODZZZ OF VICTORY!!!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link

PEDRO YER SHIT IS GARBAGE!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Friday, 17 October 2003 03:47 (twenty years ago) link

When the Yankees wer catching up, I was doing my Happy Wade Robson dance all around the living room. HOORAY BASEBALL WILL NOT FUCK UP MY SINGING COMMUTE FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 October 2003 11:56 (twenty years ago) link

Um, ah, um. I've got it "Wait til next year!" Yeah, thats it.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 17 October 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

Are we still on for this Boston trip or what? We should make a FAP of it.

Ally-zay, Friday, 17 October 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

I like Fenway. Sox Suxors, but Fenway is charming

ModJ (ModJ), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

Now that all these weddings are over with I'm down for FAPS. Hey Dan are you doing the holiday singing thing again this year? When do tix start going on sale for that.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link


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