It's come to my attention that I never want to read another novel again, which kind of deep sixes my original plan; probably my current thing of emphasis is more towards pop culture (specifically tv and comics). So is it Bowling Green (despite its theoretical foundations)(and what other schools?) for me?
― L(E^24) (Leee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
― L(E^24) (Leee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:57 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link
do you think you might rather do tv and comics from within a communications department? (no more novels that way at least)
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:16 (twenty years ago) link
a lot of good schools for pop culture are on the tip of my brain but they arent coming yet.
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link
Hahaha, Leee! This was me exactly three years ago: my last two years as an undergraduate, I was dead-set on doing an English Ph.D., and then once I graduated and started looking into programs, I was all like "Read Milton? Fuck that noise!" And so I kept groping for places that I could do, like, general cultural-studies work but, like you, started to develop an aversion to theory (or at least academic bullshit), and so that ruled out dozens of places. And then I thought I'd maybe do a creative writing/criticism program at CalArts, but when I visited it seemed like such a sad and lonely place, and that's when I realized, "Wait, I don't actually need to go to graduate school, do I?"
That said, I know that Northwestern's Comparative Literary Studies Ph.D. program is fairly unique: You can choose one of three tracks -- Diaspora Studies, Film and Media Studies, and Literature and Critical Theory. Focusing on Film and Media Studies might be the way to go.
Also, the University of Chicago has a Master's Program in the Humanities (2-year program) that is one of the most flexible graduate programs I've come across: you have to take one or two intro classes on theory, but then after that you can choose classes from any humanities department pretty much a la carte.
What do you mean about Bowling Green's "theoretical foundations"? My impression of that school (my dad did graduate work there and befriended a couple of the pop-culture profs) is that it's actually fairly non-theoretical, i.e., pop culture approached more from a historical, American-studies angle. Perhaps it's changed, I don't know. But the work published in the Journal of Popular Culture (edited at BGSU), from what I remember reading of it in the late 90s, bore little resemblance to French-influenced (or even British-style) cultural studies.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link
― L(E^24) (Leee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:29 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
plus, you'll only be 45 mins away! Beer in Ann Arbor!
― Jay Dee Sah Mon (Kingfish), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link
― L(E^24) (Leee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
I have a few questions on this subject that you MIGHT be able to answer...I'll email you when I get a moment.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 11 January 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee Majors (Leee), Sunday, 11 January 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago) link
Also, a stack of my comics just fell over. Not a good omen.
― Leee the Whitey (Leee), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee the Whitey (Leee), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:53 (twenty years ago) link
what will that make, like five of us ilxors in the midwest? (chicago doesn't count)
Are there even that many?
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:21 (twenty years ago) link
xpost I'm not an official Ilxor but I live in ohio
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link
(oh and j0hn doesn't count anymore, he moved)
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link
ugh, which time? *sobbing in fetal position*
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
*This is a lie. It's because we suck.
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 26 February 2004 20:45 (twenty years ago) link
Actually thinking about the terms they've given me -- how good can BGSU be if they're willing to waive tuition for me?
― Leee the Whitey (Leee), Friday, 27 February 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago) link
My teeth are strong. I like corn!
Also, thanks to all you kind folk for putting up with my grad school melodrama.
~*kisses*~
― Tweee the Wily (Leee), Friday, 27 February 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link
(That isn't a "oh crap, he took me seriously" tone, don't get me wrong, I just don't remember it. Also, if you hate the Midwest, please don't blame me. Jungle Jim's is very nice, and there is a fine selection of native cheeses and pork products.)
Don't sell yourself short re: the tuition waiver. Schools can smell promise! Or something.
― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 27 February 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago) link
By the way! An important to consider. Critical, in my experience:
How many of the graduate classes -- not just the ones on the books, but the ones actually offered, as well as the ones which form the core required curriculum for the program -- are actually classes unto themselves, and not simply graduate sections of a larger undergraduate course? Most of the "graduate" classes I'm encouraged to take at IU are actually a section of 2-3 grad students in a 40-200 person undergraduate class, with extra papers and meetings added on for us; the level of discourse, in other words, is exceptionally poor. I've had to ditch those types of courses whenever possible and form my own curriculum, which is not making me popular with the administration.
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link
Second suggestion duly noted!
― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link
― JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 8 April 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 8 April 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Prude (Prude), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:49 (twenty years ago) link
That sounds key to me if your goal is still to teach.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:59 (twenty years ago) link
I still have two papers left, but I don't know when one of them is due. I'm ready to sleep for 20 hours.
― L (Leee), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― mouse (mouse), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link
But, getting an idea of the very finite financial resources for which I'd be competing with other students who, I'd assume, are smarter/more driven than I am, and perhaps for the first time, I'm very very scared. Then again, I've already committed $45 to the letter of recommendation service, so there's no point in throwing that money away! Still, if you can offer assurances, that'd be appreciated; I do think that grad school/academia is something that's right for me, despite the Fears I have.
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost - shhh!
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Monday, 7 November 2005 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 7 November 2005 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 7 November 2005 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Alas, "funology" is my neologism.
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
I highly recommended taking the Academic/Professional Writing course. Improved my writing tenfold, and possibly it taught me finally how to read non-fiction prose.
Not that you'd suspect any improvement from that last sentence.
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 04:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― bird-person-person (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Wolfcastleee (Leee), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I have the phear that I will have the dreaded giant-sized sombrero and go 0 for 7.
― c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 3 February 2006 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link