Going to Japan: Request for info, tips, tricks, etc

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I know there's a taking sides elsewhere on the board, but I wanted to make this more general. I'm going to Japan at the beginning of October, and wanted to get a few travel tips before I go. They're mostly going to be taking care of everything we need while we're there but still wanted to check out a few things:

1) Does Japan use the same electrical connectors and voltage as North America, or is it different? I've been told BOTH, so far, and want to know for sure.

2) Does Interac work at ATMs there, or should I take cash ahead of time? Do merchants accept Interac cards, or is it cash/credit only?

3) Where is the area in Tokyo with all of the electronic shops? Silicon Alley I think they call it? I've now been told two different locations.

4) Any really great must-see record stores?

5) Any really great must-see tourist attractions (keeping in mind that time will be fairly limited because our agenda looks pretty tight).

6) Any other tips for traveling in Japan?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

BTW, thanks to Momus for recommending www.superfuture.com as a resource for Tokyo shopping and eating etc. Are there any other good sites that people would recommend?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

But its the only website you could possibly need! Detailed maps so you could find every A.P.C. outlet in Tokyo! If you're interested in design, check out the Comme Des Garcons store in Tokyo

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

1) Yes, but it's not that big of a difference for it to matter, just that batteries will take a little longer to charge (and Kansai & Tokyo differ too, but only slightly)

3) near the Akihabara station

4) some in Shibuya, I can't think of any that stick out as great, but there are many near each other by the Tsutaya and nearby streets.

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 22 September 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

5) Tokyo - what should i do there?

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 22 September 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

6) Get good food, chapu chapu and yakiniku are really fun to eat with groups of people.

What is aleady on your agenda, and where else in Japan are you going?

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 22 September 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm being taken there for a few press conferences and a factory tour, in Tokyo, Osaka and Yamagata; because of that I think we'll be pretty tied up for most of the week. When we get back to Tokyo they're taking us to the CEATEC conference, so may have some spare time that day.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 22 September 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.okinawaya.co.jp/images/goya-man1_b.gif

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 22 September 2003 18:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

1) Does Japan use the same electrical connectors and voltage as North America, or is it different? I've been told BOTH, so far, and want to know for sure.

Yeah, I think there's ten volts difference, but the fitting is the same, treat it as identical to the US electric standard. (The same goes for TV / video: Japan uses a very slightly different version of NTSC, but to all intents and purposes it's the same.)

2) Does Interac work at ATMs there, or should I take cash ahead of time? Do merchants accept Interac cards, or is it cash/credit only?

Japan is very behind when it comes to international ATMs. Most Japanese banks won't let you access non-Japanese accounts. The best bet is to use CitiBank ATMs, which are international. Tokyo has a dozen or so CitiBanks. One in Shinjuku, one in Shibuya, one in Aoyama, etc. The Aoyama one is on Omote Sando, near the subway station. That's what I ended up using most.

3) Where is the area in Tokyo with all of the electronic shops? Silicon Alley I think they call it? I've now been told two different locations.

It's called Electric Town. Akihabara. It's on the Yamanote Line, and the exit to take is marked (in English) Electric Town.

4) Any really great must-see record stores?

I really like Onsa in Shimokitazawa. You should look at HMV in Shibuya, just to see how it differs / doesn't differ from western shops. Tower too. Try to find Manual of Errors in Koenji, Bonjour Records in Daikanyama... In fact, one of the most incredible record stores if you like really esoteric stuff is a unit on the second floor of an office building in Shibuya next to a wedding chapel. I can't remember the name, though.

5) Any really great must-see tourist attractions (keeping in mind that time will be fairly limited because our agenda looks pretty tight).

Anything and everything. It's a theme park.

6) Any other tips for traveling in Japan?

Before you go, buy a Japan Rail pass (two weeks approx. $350) and travel about by shinkansen.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 22 September 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Real Tokyo is an invaluable guide to cultural events in Tokyo.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 22 September 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

2) Does Interac work at ATMs there, or should I take cash ahead of time? Do merchants accept Interac cards, or is it cash/credit only?

I don't know what interac is but the ATMs in the japanese post-offices work for most US banks AS LONG AS YOUR PASSWORD DOES NOT EXCEED 6 (SIX) DIGITS.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 22 September 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Even with six digits you could have problems - a guy I met in Tokyo never managed to find a bank he could get money out of because the Japanese, like all people who are not raving mentalists, tend toward the four-digit PIN.

I got by on Traveller's Cheques, but that might just be me.

The Japan Rail Pass is a thing of beauty and a joy forever, unless you want to go places that aren't covered by JR (like, say, Ise. Rar). Can't take the Nozomi shinkansen (supersupersuperfast), but the Hikari superexpress is fast enough that you can, say, go from Kyoto to Hiroshima to Tokyo in one day and have a nice midday wandering about the Peace Park. Not that I've ever done this or anything.
You need to be there on a "temporary visitor" visa to get a JR pass, mind.
http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en01.shtml

cis (cis), Monday, 22 September 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

1) Does Japan use the same electrical connectors and voltage as North America, or is it different? I've been told BOTH, so far, and want to know for sure.
Yeah, I think there's ten volts difference, but the fitting is the same, treat it as identical to the US electric standard. (The same goes for TV / video: Japan uses a very slightly different version of NTSC, but to all intents and purposes it's the same.)

Excellent, I wasn't looking forward to carrying around adapters and transformers etc. This is very good news.

It's called Electric Town. Akihabara. It's on the Yamanote Line, and the exit to take is marked (in English) Electric Town.

Ah, yes, that's it. That's a must-see for me, considering my line of work. I can report on that in my daily travelogue.

I don't know what interac is but the ATMs in the japanese post-offices work for most US banks AS LONG AS YOUR PASSWORD DOES NOT EXCEED 6 (SIX) DIGITS

Good tip. Interac seems to be a Canadian thing only, namewise, but I think it's connected in to other similar things around the world. If US banks are accessible from some machines, I will try those. I'm at 6-digits so hopefully that's not gonna bomb the connection.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 22 September 2003 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

You are probably mean CIRRUS or the other standards/groups/associations/whateveryouwannacallthemspellthem we take forgranted. Funny my dumb company has its thumb in that pie as well.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 22 September 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, we're quite surprisingly spoiled by our debit systems here. Sean, don't scare the Japanese.

Kim (Kim), Monday, 22 September 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

2} I would take at least some cash ahead of time, which you can convert at the airport. Japanese banks may have impoved, but when I was there even the ATMs had weird hours, and were closed on holidays. Better yet, take your credit card and charge everything you can, that way you won't have to worry about the exchanging. A credit card will work in the department stores and chain stores, though it may not work in many of the restaurants, even the larger ones. Japan is a hugely cash-based society.

3) Akihabara really isn't that great. Walk around there if you must but I wouldn't recommend buying anything there. If you want electronics your best bet is to go to any of the department stores or large electronic stores in any part of Tokyo. Also, the airport shopping stores will have a lot of great electronics. That might be the best thing for you. You may be able to avoid taxes that way.

4) As for record stores it depends what you're looking for. Any of the chains (Tower, Virgin, HMV) are great because they have a huge J-pop section right as you walk in. You can listen to the hit CDs of the week and decide if you want to buy any. Also, their Western stock can be more extensive in some areas than in America; for instance if you are interested in 80s anorak bands. The CDs will seem very expensive because of a CD tax, if you can, check out some used CD shops (there is a used section within the Tsutaya chain) these CDs are always in excellent condition.

6) I would recommend Kamakura; it's an easy day trip from Tokyo and you can see the Giant Buddha. If you have time you must go to an onsen (hot spring).

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah bring cash. It took me like 2 hours in the rain with my heavy fucking backpack on to find a cash machine that took Cirrus cards. It was on the 6th floor of one of the huge dept stores in Shinjuku Station, in the back corner somewhere.

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cis is spot on the Japan Rail Pass, I did the Kyoto, Hiroshima, Peace Park, noodles!!!, Tokyo thing and it rocked. As for ATM's though I would stick with the ones in the Post Office, pretty safe - but make sure you get plenty of cash out on Fridays cos you won't see an ATM til Monday.

Get a 2 litre can of Asahi out of an on street vending machine - just tohear the clunk.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Take cash.

And another handy tip is that somehow most supermarkets cannot sell alcohol.

jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

one big tip that hasn't been mentioned - perhaps because people think it's too obvious - learn to speak some Japanese. Even some basic greetings etc. will help. DO NOT expect people to speak english everywhere you go. Even when people have some basic english, they may be shy about using it and the japanese pronounciations of english words takes some getting used to as well.

as per finding specific cool record shops etc, i'd throw caution to the wind and just wander and see what you can see - you're bound to find cool stuff in shibuya and shinjuku and you'll waste a lot of time trying to navigate to some specific hole-in-the-wall...embrace randomness in tokyo and you will be rewarded

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another thing. Finding your way around Tokyo is near impossible, because they don't have street names, but have a really strange numbering system instead

jellybean (jellybean), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

here;s a tip:

eat champuru at okinawan-food restaurants as often as possible.

http://www.spacemedicine.net/img/goya.jpg

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

food (l-r):

gohan with gobi, goya with tamago and spam(!), miso ramen.

drink (l-r):

ukon cha, shikwasa (grapefruit cocktail)

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

another tip:
I've found that Japanese mixed drinks are often very weak. Bottled/canned drinks are better.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

one big tip that hasn't been mentioned - perhaps because people think it's too obvious - learn to speak some Japanese. Even some basic greetings etc. will help

Damn good idea, as all of the Japanese I know currently was cribbed from food packages or Styx's "Mr. Roboto". I suppose I should at least learn "yes" "no" and "do you speak English?", eh? And proper pronounciation of "Asahi" is gonna be key.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

What is the correct pronounciation of "Asahi"? And Sapporo? Is it Suh-POUR-Oh? Or SAH-purr-oh? or something else?

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

keeping even stress across all syllables:

ah saw hee
saw pore row

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sapporo has 4 syllables:
sa (rest) po ro

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 20:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, this is important. don't call beer: beer, call it be ru

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

So I've been in Japan for about a week now, and haven't spent a whole lot of time exploring Tokyo yet...maybe tomorrow before I go. Got to spend time in Osaka, Kyoto, Sendai and Yamagata, and will have some photos later for anyone who cares. One thing that I have discovered is that this is the best drink of all goddamn time:

http://www.cocacola.co.jp/products/lineup/qoo/img/qoo009.gif

It's not so much for the drink itself as for that one-eared guy on the label. I love that guy!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 05:47 (twenty years ago) link

How about Pokari Sweat? We still can't get over how popular this is. Despite/thanks to its name?

nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 06:35 (twenty years ago) link

Akihabara can be overwhelming at first. There are a lot of things there, some pretty nifty but the prices are fairly steep, especially with the dollar losing ground to the yen these days. GO there to look. Go to Hong Kong or Singapore to buy.

CDs in Japan cost too much.

Pocari Sweat is a little sweet but a pretty good drink. I also like the cold and hot coffees like GEORGIA (from the Coca Cola company).
Also, gree tea from Kirin, Sapporo and others are great but expensive.

Chinatown in Yokohama does not compare to SF or NYC.


There are several ATMs at Narita that take American ATM cards. Otherwise, they are hard to find. Be wearned that just because some sport a mastercard or visa logo doesn't mean they take one from an American bank.


jogah, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:45 (twenty years ago) link

Got to spend time in Osaka, Kyoto, Sendai and Yamagata, and will have some photos later for anyone who cares.

I would love to see the pictures, Sean.

Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 11:42 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, we actually made it up to Akihabara last night on the way back from Yamagata, and they dropped us off for an hour and a half, which was about enough time to realize that there's three or four companies that own the entire area, and that they're all overpriced.

Haven't tried Pocari Sweat yet, yeah mostly because I'm scared of the name, but have tried a few of the hot drinks like Fire and such.

Was successful today taking money out at the ATM but I'm really not sure which account it withdrew the money from, because it didn't ask. At least I got money! It was at the post office, not one of the CITI bank machines.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 12:08 (twenty years ago) link

Unbelievably cheap + as-new condition second-hand Cds - go to Shinjuju or Ochanomizu and head for Disk Union. For all your J-pop needs too ! Japan-released new Cds are expensive (2300 yen or so) but imported Cds are very cheap (as little as 1600 yen). That's why you often find bonus tracks on the Japanese version - it's in order to get the natives to buy them instead (as well as featuring extensive inner liner notes, often written by the likes of celeb fans like Konishi, Cornelius, etc).

darren (darren), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

i tried to find all my receipts for record stores (i've probably visited over 50), but the ones that i truly remember are:

disk union in shinjuku (go left out of the station, around the flags building, make a right at the benneton store, go down a couple blocks and it's the 2-6 floors.

there is an amazing obscure experimental shop near here (i think a block north east), jim o'rourke had shopped there earlier in the week and had signed one of his earliest records.

and of course, the tower records in the flags building is one of the most comprehensive shops in tokyo.

in kyoto, jetset records treated me very well (all vinyl -j-rock, international dance, hip hop, experimental). found two very rare (500 copies pressed) boredoms 12"s here for less than $25 apiece.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

Back now, had a few moments to resize some of the more interesting pictures. You can check em out here if you want:
http://ox.eicat.ca/~scarruthers/globalhermit/travelogue/japan/

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 02:04 (twenty years ago) link

Sean, if I never realize that dream of having the velcro numbered "days accident free" T shirt, this icon is my second choice!

http://ox.eicat.ca/~scarruthers/globalhermit/travelogue/japan/falling-down.jpg

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 02:25 (twenty years ago) link

great pictures sean!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

so did you take the shower toilet for a test drive?

ron (ron), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

Great things about Japan:

Nikkomen (steamed suet dumpling things filled with a kind of sweet sausage filling) - genius breakfast food for westerners.
The curried doughnut I had at "Mr Donut" in Kyoto station - filled with curry sauce, covered in toasted coconut and rolled in curry powder.
Those heated toilet seats with the arm that comes out to wash you.
Taking your photo in a kimono in your hotel room because you're too tight to buy one/will never wear one again (though somewhat bizarrely I was given one as a present this year and have worn it since).
The Phillipe Starck-designed Asahi Building in Tokyo. I'd never smuggled a camera into a toilet before that day...
Hot cans of coffee - my favourite was Big Boss, which I would take in the 'strong' variety, thus causing me to lurch into a Swans tribute every time I bought one...
That bizarre fruit flavoured off-milk that I never knew what it was called.
Snacks made from pressed peas. Snacks called things like Blair's Death Rain. Snakcs like strawberry flavoured crisps. Hell, snacks period.
The 5th floor open topped bath house in Kyoto that's allegedly a Yakusa hang-out.
Toei movie studios/theme park.
Finding a record shop in a Shinjuku back street that had one of the biggest Throbbing Gristle selections I've ever seen. Being served in another, while buying deleted Swans releases, by a young chap being desperately polite and bowing despite him wearing a Fudge Tunnel shirt covered in bad language.

Bad things about Japan:

Benito flakes making your food look like it's alive.
Everything in Akihabara being expensive compared to, say, Hong Kong (is there a cheaper electronics chain in the world than Tower?).
Buying a digital camera over there that was an experimental Japan-only model, therefore having a Japanese manual and Japanese screen prompts, and that you've barely used any of the features of because you don't understand them.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I'm thinking of going to Hokkaido for a week. How should I get there, flying to Sapporo? Is it worth it for a week? Can I visit the island by train or is a car better? Is it the good season? etc, etc.

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I spend two months in Hokkaido in January. The air route from Tokyo to Sapporo is apparently the busiest in the world, so you should be able to get good deals on flights (they go from Haneda). The train is much more expensive.

I liked Sapporo very much, a lot better than the dead end town I was stuck in (Hakodate). If you're there for a week, travel around by train and visit, for instance, Noboribetsu, which has an onsen in the middle of an amazing volcanic "Hell Valley" of bubbling geysers, as well as an Ainu village and (rather sad) bear park. More here.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Hokkaido? Why not Kyoto and Osaka for example? Or Nara! I mean, Hokkaido's fine, but I would rather go to other parts in Japan, if it was my first time. (I'm assuming it is for you or am I wrong?) The climate's different from the main island. Especially winters are very cold.

I don't think there are direct flights to Sapporo (from Europe). If I'm not mistaken there's a tunnel which links both islands but most people take a plane. I would suggest flying with ANA, I think it's one of the best companies (who fly to Japan).

I dunno about cars. I don't drive a car, so I don't know what's better. I only know that you have to drive left (as opposed to right here in Belgium). :-)

Sorry, not much help, I know.

nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah onsens. I never went to one! I was in Japan about ten times and never visited an onsen. Ridiculous.

nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey Nathalie, I was in the Kyoto region this summer, that's why I'm thinking North now.
Onsens are so great. In August, I went to this spa town, Kinosake, where people spent the whole day in yukatas strolling down the main street.

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh wow, yeah! I was in a spa town as well. There's nothing like hearing the *klik kloks* of people walking to the spa. But I'm too much of a prude to jump in an onsen myself. ;-)

Sorry about assuming you hadn't been to Japan before. :-)

nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

You may know this but long car trips in japan are ridiculously expensive because of all the tolls, if you drive go with a carload of people willing to split the cost. pretty drives some places though... also easy to get lost unless you or one of your fellow travelers is a fluent reader of japanese road signs whizzing by

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
OK, stupid question, but what are my chances of catching some NHL playoff hockey in Tokyo (or Japan in general)? I'm not basing my trip around it, but it'd be cool to wake up and catch the Habs at 8am with breakfast. Are there sports bars or other options?

More stupid questions to come as my departure date approaches.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I wanna go back to Japan :-(

Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool! Bet you're already planning your next trip.

Brio2, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link

Yes, we are planning our next trip, actually!

Her parents are lovely and I got on really well with them, especially her mother.

We have so many nice memories. I was making a list of them the other day and kind of recounting our time there.

Have any of you ever been to Hiroshima, Nagasaki or Hokkaido? We're thinking a couple of those areas next, especially Hokkaido.

The other thing we want to do is go when it's hotter, that way I can decide if I can put up with the heat.

, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

No, would love to travel around more - especially Hokkaido. The heat can be pretty brutal, but you'll have a good time no matter what.

Brio2, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link

Visited Hokkaido almost 15 years ago. Enjoyed the Sapporo beer garden - huge place inna Deutsche style. Also remember snow and train stations with great ramen shops attached.

calstars, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link

Side note: all the Sapporo I've bought in the States is actually brewed in Wisconsin.

calstars, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it's just not the same in the US.

I miss the food (quality) already!

, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

In Hiroshima, one must have Hiroshima okonomiyaki, which I personally prefer to Osaka style which seems to be the default. It's good with oysters, which Hiroshima prefecture is also known for.

MrDasher, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

have been to Japan before (Tokyo, mostly) for work but I'm looking forward to 12 days in August, for Summer Sonic + honeymoon this time. :D

Current schedule:
Tokyo - 19-25 (Summer Sonic on 20,21)
Hakone - 25-26
Kyoto/Osaka - 26-30

I think I've sorted out Tokyo but tips for Kyoto/Osaka? mostly interested in food recommendations, but anything else art/culture/cool shit-related would be appreciated too.

also is it okay to stay in Tokyo during Summer Sonic or would it better to spend a couple of nights in Chiba since we prob will be spending most of the day at the festival anyway?

Roz, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 07:20 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Where in Hakone exactly? We spent some days in Gora this and last year, definitely a strange but rewarding experience and variation from Osaka/Tokyo.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Monday, 27 June 2016 08:25 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

I'm going to Japan in November. :) Haven't planned much of anything yet, interested in figuring out day trips from Kyoto/Osaka, and I'll be traveling with a vegetarian which should be interesting.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 12 September 2024 18:04 (three weeks ago) link

You must now go to Bird 56 as it has become the official ILX Osaka hangout (2 ilxors have visited).

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 12 September 2024 18:21 (three weeks ago) link

As a vegetarian in Japan I ended up buying lots of custard rolls from Lawson stores when I was out somewhere on my own, it's much easier when you're travelling with a native

leave roly alone (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 September 2024 18:25 (three weeks ago) link

Ha, I've talked to two different vegetarian couples who recently went to Japan and said "oh, we just decided not to be for this trip," which is unfortunately not how my wife rolls.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 12 September 2024 18:30 (three weeks ago) link

Everyone's very helpful, they just don't really grasp the concept. Might be better these days though what with the 21st century taking hold.

leave roly alone (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 September 2024 18:37 (three weeks ago) link

Go to a baseball game is my main advice for anyone in Japan during baseball season. Get to your seats in time for the pregame theatrics and stay for the postgame theatrics (if the home team wins). Rollercoaster of emotions. Bring cash.

trm (tombotomod), Thursday, 12 September 2024 18:42 (three weeks ago) link

Kyoto is just about the best city in Japan to be a vegetarian. The number of Buddhist temples means there’s lots of options. There’s a number of temples where you can stay and get a taste of the monastic life both literally and figuratively. Shojin Ryori is the name of temple cuisine. One of my more memorable Japanese meals, and there have been a few, was at a Tokyo restaurant specialising in this.

This tofu shop down near the big sights of Arashiyama is a great example of what you can find in vego food. I could eat their Yuba tofu every day and not get bored.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yE9Bbf64jUc9q1Gu5?g_st=ic

Ed, Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:46 (three weeks ago) link

tbf there are better vegetarian options at lawsons, seven, familymarts than custards. a lot of the onigiri are vegetarian. also would be a good chance to introduce your wife to natto... which could be a new way she rolls... rice...

download google translate and the japanese language pack and try out the camera translation feature

, Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:56 (three weeks ago) link

Thanks! Yeah I got that and Papago loaded up. I will happily go to the jazz vinyl bar btw.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 12 September 2024 20:24 (three weeks ago) link

Paging dylannnn

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 12 September 2024 20:43 (three weeks ago) link

if you haven't used it yet, check out the happycow app. works pretty well for finding veg/vegan spots. there are a decent amount of cute places with vegan set meals in cities. the more old school ones like this one usually rule:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/odWza2Kun5T95pVg9

food is basically great everywhere, so you'll be eating delicious things no matter what!

not sure how strict your wife is but fyi you're prob gonna get bonito/fish in most broths. if that's a problem, you may want to figure out how to ask if there's fish _OR_ meat in what you're ordering (most ppl don't classify fish as meat ime)

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 12 September 2024 20:45 (three weeks ago) link

Having been that way a few times I have some suggestions. Catch the train out to Kurama from central Kyoto and walk the mountain trail to Kibune. Very easy walking and a wonderful experience. https://www.insidekyoto.com/kurama-to-kibune-hike
Also the venerable Philosopher’s Walk is pretty nice if you’re up for walking it rather than bring bussed to Kinkaku-ji and Ryoan-ji. And Nijo Castle is amazing no matter how many tourists there are. You should be better off in November than we were in July.
We also took the train and a bus out to Ise where the main Shinto shrine to Amaterasu is located. Very beautiful and revered place, I found it very exciting.
And of course there’s Nara with its famous buildings like Todai-ji and deer running everywhere. It’s getting a bit crowded out these days. I wouldn’t bother with Osaka castle except maybe the grounds, it’s packed with tourists and is a modern recreation. The old battle paintings are really cool tho.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 12 September 2024 20:53 (three weeks ago) link

Himeji castle (located in my wife's home town!) is well worth a visit though, not stupidly far from Osaka either. There's not much else to do in Himeji tbh but I can recommend it.

https://www.himejicastle.jp/en

leave roly alone (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 September 2024 21:00 (three weeks ago) link

most ppl don't classify fish as meat ime

yeah in the course of watching japanese tv shows i've learned that "meat" often means beef specifically.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 12 September 2024 21:07 (three weeks ago) link

I enjoyed Himeji castle as well...
My favourite building in Kyoto is Sanjuusangendo...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 12 September 2024 21:09 (three weeks ago) link

Oh also head out west from Kyoto station to Arashiyama - there’s a somewhat overrun bamboo forest walk, but also the slightly bonkers monkey park on the hillside which is memorable. Saiho-ji (Kokedera) is there too, with its famous moss garden, but it’s a bit involved to gain admission (requires a postcard request in advance).

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 12 September 2024 22:02 (three weeks ago) link

i was paged. about vegetarianism?

if you are set on traditional or conventional japanese food, it's possible to pull off vegetarianism, but it takes some research, probably a larger budget than you might expect (credible shojin ryori restaurants are not inexpensive), or knowingly allowing dietary rules being broken, and, i would expect, from eating out with friends, tolerating bad food at shops that cater to foreign tastes. if you want to eat "food that people in japan eat," it's easier. every department store sixth floor will have numerous restaurants with options for diet-conscious ladies-who-lunch-types. every hipster taco shop. the pizza shops. vegan bakeries. cold noodle shops. i would take a banh mi stuffed with pickled vegetables over "vegetarian ramen." and there is a kissaten or two always within a hundred meters or so, where you can get a potato salad sandwich and a cup of miso soup lunch set, pizza toast (you might need to ask them to leave off the wieners), pudding... i think it's easy.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Friday, 13 September 2024 08:48 (three weeks ago) link

please wear slacks when you visit, even if it's warm enough not to.

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Friday, 13 September 2024 08:49 (three weeks ago) link

I have Japanese friends who wear dresses and skirts - is it a bad look for gaijin?

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 September 2024 10:52 (three weeks ago) link

also I paged you because you know lots of stuff

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 September 2024 10:52 (three weeks ago) link

Thirding Himeji Castle, which is also conveniently close to the train station

Vinnie, Friday, 13 September 2024 10:55 (three weeks ago) link

Fourthed, it’s breathtaking!

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 September 2024 11:15 (three weeks ago) link

(although it’s an hour south by shinkansen so could be pricey as a day trip)

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 September 2024 11:16 (three weeks ago) link

tbf there are better vegetarian options at lawsons, seven, familymarts than custards. a lot of the onigiri are vegetarian. also would be a good chance to introduce your wife to natto... which could be a new way she rolls... rice...

download google translate and the japanese language pack and try out the camera translation feature

― 龜, Thursday, September 12, 2024 2:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this x1000. pickled plum onigiri at family mart was like...120 yen?? incredible.

i tried my best to find vegan stuff in the greater tokyo area (more in the kanagawa prefecture) and the bonito flakes were everywhere. also got some peanuts at 7-11 and discovered they had butter oil in them when i google translated the packaging. stuff i didnt even think about as possible ingredients came up more than i bargained for which, you know, no kidding m bison.

idk, im not saying its impossible, i just had to accept that my western-based ideal was not catered to or understood very broadly so i just tried to stay as close to vegan stuff as i could given the information that was available to me. i ate at the hotel breakfast spread and kept to the rice and vegetables and tofu and it was great, but i would hazard it didnt meet any strict 100% plant based criteria. we did visit a nice vegetarian shop in chigasaki though.

liberace_smoking_weed.jpeg (m bison), Friday, 13 September 2024 11:31 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Please tell me what area to stay in Tokyo, the choices are overwhelming. Basically trying to decide if staying in Shibuya or Shinjuku is going to be too overwhelming in our jet-lagged state, mostly for my wife who doesn't like most big cities. But also we do like to eat late and be near a station.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 29 September 2024 00:27 (five days ago) link

Eating late and being near a station is possible everywhere in Tokyo. I've stayed in Asakusa, wonderful place to arrive at late at night with its narrow streets filled with lanterns and a big scary illuminated Nio at Senso-Ji staring down at you. The other time I stayed on the meeting of Jinbocho (book suburb) and Ochanomizu (guitar suburb) which tickled two interests of mine. Shibuya and Shinjuku are busy yeah, if I was keen on being in one of those suburbs and split the distance and stay in harajukj (fashion suburb), one stop away in opposite directions from both. You get to be right next to yoyogi Park then as well if you want to escape into some nature.

Other place that could be cool to stay in is Tsjuki (fish market town). You're next to the water (always a remedy to big city stress), and the next suburb over is Ginza (high end shopping district). I'm not big on Ginza but I sorta wish I had more breakfasts in Tsjuki.

No matter where you stay, Tokyo is insanely well connected and you can't really lose no matter where you stay. If it's your first time maybe close to the center would be wise so you can have a central location to suburbs north-east-south-west? I.e. any accommodation near the imperial palace. Also if your wife doesn't like big cities she is going to the wrong place and there's no way to sugar-coat that lol. Tokyo is the biggest of big cities, its kinda endless. A day trip to Mt. Fuji could be the go to get some breathing room though! Loved my time in Atami as well as a breather from Tokyo.

H.P, Sunday, 29 September 2024 00:49 (five days ago) link

We went there for the first time in August, stayed in Chiyoda, which was very central and also not too busy. Honestly, I would have found Shibuya or Shinjuku just too full on for a first time visit. I second the suggestion of Asakusa, really nice area.

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 29 September 2024 01:02 (five days ago) link

If you want something further away but still close to shin/shib and relatively quieter (key word:relatively), check out Shimokitazawa. Only spent a little bit of time there but it was very nice. Great coffee, great food, good livehouses. Might be perfect for you.

H.P, Sunday, 29 September 2024 01:03 (five days ago) link

Thank you! I think we're only going to be in Tokyo for a few days on either side, although I wish I had weeks to explore (book & music suburbs!).

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 29 September 2024 01:37 (five days ago) link

thirding asakusa!

call all destroyer, Sunday, 29 September 2024 04:12 (five days ago) link

Ueno is fun - laidback, large beautiful park, amazing museums, tons of shopping etc. My favourite base for Tokyo.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 29 September 2024 04:58 (five days ago) link

Yeah Uena is a good ventral base! 10 minutes to Asakusa/Akihabara/Jinbocho/Ochanomizu from Okachimachi station.

It's worth stressing there is no bad places to stay in Tokyo. Honestly just throw a dart at a map, or blindly select from the recommendations given and go for it. The city is so well connected you'll be fine wherever you land (this is especially true if your just dropping by for a few days)

H.P, Sunday, 29 September 2024 05:20 (five days ago) link

Good central base too

H.P, Sunday, 29 September 2024 05:21 (five days ago) link

Last time I was there is stayed in Yotsuya, which even by Tokyo standards is ridiculously well connected. The station there is on the chip line rapid and the Mainichi and bamboo subway lines which gets you everywhere in a couple of stops.

I stayed in the Tokyu stay hotel which is a very good. Haines hotel brand. It’s completely non smoking g and always has been which means no ground in smoke stench and every room has a washing mashing which is useful for re-uppping on clean pants.

It’s a fairly quiet neighborhood but there is a very good if old school sake shop and I have to recommend 太平山 (Taiheizan) which is an Akita cuisine restaurant associated with a sake brewery I have repped for a couple of times.

If you do end up in okachimachi/ueno, which is also a good area , be aware that this is a neighborhood where all the bars and cops turn a blind eye to the smoking ban.

Highly recommend sake pub Gashue up there which has a truly banging selection. I have a mate who runs private sake tastings in their back room if you want a guided experience.

Other areas I’ve liked to stay - mita sanchome and azabujuban. Great places to get a short apartment rental. The sento in Azabujuban is a favourite and I more often than not end up bathing with some aging yakuza types.

Ed, Sunday, 29 September 2024 08:39 (five days ago) link

Chip line - chuo line

Ed, Sunday, 29 September 2024 08:41 (five days ago) link

Somewhere on the Chuo line is a good call, but yeah, what HP said, there's no bad options...

If you're in Shimokitazawa there's tons of live music happening, in Asakusa you've got the Japan Percussion Centre, there's often good music at Polaris in Ochanomizu... it's a fun town...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 3 October 2024 15:26 (yesterday) link

how far in advance to book accommodation? asap? going in march

secretary of state for fractal pluripotencies (||||||||), Thursday, 3 October 2024 19:12 (yesterday) link

March can be busy because it’s cherry blossom/spring break season.

Most Japanese hotels are book now and pay when you turn up and free to cancel up to the day before or so, even through aggregators like booking.com. Although direct can be slightly cheaper and most likely won’t involve facing anything anymore😜. Book now and see if prices change if you are doing hotels.

Airbnb does what Airbnb does I suppose.

Ed, Thursday, 3 October 2024 23:22 (yesterday) link

I’ve just been reminded of this property developer that owns a bunch of hotels. Reason I know them is they bought a sake brewery, Kikawa Jozo, and I went to a talk by the brewer and developer. They have a couple of hotels, one in Kawasaki, the other in Asakusa, which feature unlimited sake as part of the plan. They also have a ( quite spendy) Showa style house in Kagurazaka and a bunch of places in the countryside and a cool looking capsule/hostel style place in Okinawa that look very workation oriented



https://shimadahouse.co.jp/business/hotelhttps://sake-barhotel.comhttps://sake-kurahotel.com/
https://www.retro-na-hotel.com/

Ed, Friday, 4 October 2024 00:02 (five hours ago) link

And if you want a fun vegan friendly, sake oriented day out. Take a trip beyond the end of the Chuo line on the Ome line to Sawai, home of the Ozawa sake brewery that brews Sawanoi.

You can do a tour if your book in advance (I can never get bored touring sake breweries, YMMV). However the highlight is their pretty little garden with snack stands and tasting room plus two really great tofu restaurants. IIRC the cheaper upstairs one was all vegan and no reservations taken or required, downstairs was a more elaborate course with meat and fish.

There’s also some lovely hiking along the river and it’s a popular bouldering spot.

Ed, Friday, 4 October 2024 00:17 (five hours ago) link

Cool recs! Thanks Ed, saving those.

H.P, Friday, 4 October 2024 01:14 (four hours ago) link


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