Holy Mountain > Santa Sangre > El Topo
I've never seen Tusk, The Dance of Reality or Endless Poetry (or Fando y Lis, though I own the Anchor Bay box set that has it).
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
I really like The Dance of Reality. Has more heart than his other films, while still being batshit crazy.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
It's funny how the world's caught up to Jod - not just all the music videos and even fashion photo shoots that have stolen from The Holy Mountain over the years, but the fact that there are probably a half dozen telenovelas crazier than Santa Sangre by now.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
I'm guessing ST Vincent was referencing him?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
Got a link? I don't really know her work.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/St-Vincent-St-Vincent/master/657709
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
hey TKGE can you email me again and put your address in the body of the email?
― Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 April 2020 01:02 (four years ago) link
whoops forgot i could email you through here sorry everyone
there's a song called "huey newton" on that St Vincent album, I always figured the cover as a ref to the famous photo of him
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 24 April 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link
So those script scans upthread from march 2015 (Alejandro Jodorowsky) ...
In March 2015 a script, an apparent early draft of Dune written by Jodorowsky, appeared on eBay. When asked on Twitter about it Jodorowsky replied: "Es un falso guión con un dibujo idiota." ("It is a fake script with an idiot drawing.")
https://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 4 November 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link
Oh wait... In August 2018 however, official copies of the Jodorowsky's Dune script were sent out to backers of Jodorowsky's "Psychomagic, an art that heals" project on Ulule (https://www.ulule.com/jodorowsky/), and this script is almost identical to the "fake" script.
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 4 November 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link
The real deal, yours for around 30,000 euros (estimated):
https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6345488
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 18 November 2021 11:03 (two years ago) link
2.7 million euros!https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/nov/22/film-storyboards-for-doomed-1970s-version-of-dune-sell-for-266m?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link
Whoa
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
like everything else related to Dune, if you didnt get it before the remake came out, you are going to be paying a lot more for it now..
(goes to ebay, searches for Bruce Pennington cover of GEOD and then faints.)
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link
This is a book of original art by Moebius & HR Giger. Did Christies really think it would fetch only $35K?
― dinnerboat, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
Oops – should have read to the end (1 of 10-20 copies). Yeah, $3M is something.
― dinnerboat, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
A big chunk of that book is available online in decent scans. The storyboards are great. I think there's no way a quarter of that version of Dune as seen in the sboards would've made it onscreen.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:25 (two years ago) link
‘The Holy Mountain’ is way more preposterous and lurid than even films like Fellini’s ‘Satyricon’ or Pasolini’s ‘Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom’
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:41 (two years ago) link
It is the ultimate 1973 film
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:42 (two years ago) link
of the experimental films from that era, though, I liked Kenneth Anger's 'Lucifer Rising' (1972) and its Bobby Beausoleil score
still haven't seen Pink Narcissus (1971)
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link
There were regular double bills of El Topo and The Holy Mountain in Toronto for many years while they were being kept out of distribution in the States by Allen Klein. Apparently it was a contractual requirement for them to be shown together; I watched them both on the same night and that was WAY too much Jodorowsky at once.I just saw Santa Sangre recently, with no particular expectations, and was really pleasantly surprised. For a filmmaker who I tend to think of as having a narrow range of effects (doing one particular thing very well), there was a lot of humour and emotional depth to the story that was entirely compatible with the usual grotesquerie. The Dance of Reality, which I saw a few years ago, was soulful in the same way, but I had supposed that that was a recent development in his style, related to the film being autobiographical. I'd probably rank him above Fellini now.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 16 April 2022 01:05 (two years ago) link
he doesn't even come close to Fellini
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 01:14 (two years ago) link
Love Jodo for the most part but no way he even touches Fellini as a filmmaker.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 16 April 2022 06:47 (two years ago) link
Fantastic Planet would be my 1973 experimental pick.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 April 2022 08:05 (two years ago) link
The comparison of the two came to mind because of the circus milieu of Santa Sangre. My personal view on Fellini is that he peaked early with I Vitelloni, and got bigger not better.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 16 April 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link
Sante Sangre is included in my Kanopy subscription, I will watch it
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:43 (two years ago) link
Wish there were more films like it. Bit of a shame it isn't as well known as El Topo and Holy Mountain
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 17 April 2022 00:12 (two years ago) link
Santa Sangre is free (with ads) on Tubi if anyone needs to see it.
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 6 October 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link
I bought the bluray of it last year from Mr Bongo who issued it.https://www.mrbongo.com/collections/film/products/santa-sangre
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
i finally saw Holy Mountain, last night, in a small room. the colors were bright, the sounds were loud. i thought all the scenes with the fool carrying his replica around were so good. climbing that giant tower, then the alchemist descending the staircase in the slowest of realtime motion. at the end, the alchemist sending the fool home with the woman and chimpanzee who have been following him, before he can reach the top of the mountain. lots to think about.
i wish i were a little more versed in all the symbolism that permeates the film. for example, i recognized these symbols when they appeared and thought it was from the i ching,
https://i.imgur.com/4JcA7v9.png
but they're from something else in taoism, the eight trigrams, and represent Heaven and Earth
https://i.imgur.com/C6kfw7n.png
i might do some internet hunting and see if i can find a shot-by-shot breakdown of the symbolism throughout the movie. would like to watch El Topo soon as well! also, are his 21st century films good?
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link
I like The Dance of Reality, Endless Poetry is a decent sequel but not as good.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
i think the new ones were supposed to be a part of a 5-film autobiographical series? i wonder if that's been abandoned or if the scripts/screenplays are somewhat developed
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
really want to track down the Incal, as well
I think Santa Sangre and Dance Of Reality are his best
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
Maybe I posted on another thread, I got the incal a couple of christmases ago. It was abysmal.
― ledge, Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
He's been paired with some truly stunning comic artists. His plots are nonsense, but I'm willing to roll with it and enjoy the art.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 9 April 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
I gave up on The Incal pretty early. Moebius was not fully operational and I think even Jodorowsky was disappointed in his work there.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
Santa Sangre is great, an ultra-lurid telenovela-style horror movie. But it's a regular movie-movie, with a plot and whatnot, not a pure yank-your-brain-out-your-ass shotgun blast of symbolism like The Holy Mountain. I don't think any movie on earth is like The Holy Mountain, really.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
I will not stand for this nonsense Incal talk. Moebius "not fully operational"?!? As opposed to...?
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 9 April 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
I think all his famous comics from before that had better artwork. I wasn't that impressed by his art on Madwoman Of The Sacred Heart either
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
Incal is 3rd tier Moebius in my view
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link