Alejandro Jodorowsky

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Recently read an archive interview with this man on Roger Ebert's pages on the Chicago Sun Times website - he sounds like a very interesting guy. But do his films live up to the incredibly bizarre-sounding descriptions? (Also: what are his comics like?)

Chriddof (Chriddof), Saturday, 6 September 2003 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Alejandro Jodorowsky

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 6 September 2003 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Is this the guy that made The Holy Mountain? Christ, we just saw this over the weekend. What a demented and weird and twisted and strange and over the top film. And I mean that in all the best ways.

Our friend had really been talking it up, and I was worried that there was no way it could be as good as he claimed, but it was truly astonishing. Wackadoo, weird, wild, conspiracy theory, anti-religion, quasi-mystical nuttiness with a multimillion dollar budget. Total classic.

kate (kate), Saturday, 6 September 2003 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to have his manbabies. That is all.

I used to have his e-mail address and I thought of maybe interviewing him for a time there but somewhere I heard he´s a real dick or something along those lines and then I lost the address and I cried and I cried. I waited far too long. Regret!

And yes, The Holy Mountain is the best cinematic acid trip eva!

The only movies of his you need to watch:
Fando Y Lis
El Topo
The Holy Mountain
Santa Sangre

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Saturday, 6 September 2003 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW, the Fando Y Lis DVD contains a documentary that gives some insight into his art as a cartoonist for the French version of the Heavy Metal series, how he now makes a living off of tarot readings, and how he was originally hired to direct Dune, but then it all went to hell, etc.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Saturday, 6 September 2003 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Friend o' Chaki and good LA sort Lenora Claire is a major worshipper of Jodorowsky and got to meet him about a month and a half ago at a screening/Q&A for Santa Sangre -- go here and scroll down to her July 26 entry. Talk moderated by Jerry Stahl, among the attendees David J!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 September 2003 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Whoa! I just got the UK Anchor Bay 2-DVD reissue of this today with Jodorowsky commentary. Won't have time to watch it for a bit, but I'm mighty excited! I wish someone like Tarantino would give Jodorowsky a bunch of $$ to grace us with another freakout soon like.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

By "this" I mean Santa Sangre .

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

great news:
new movie,produced by david lynch

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0892411/

Zeno, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:14 (twelve years ago) link

long shot amirite

noticing the cloud come (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 February 2009 06:12 (twelve years ago) link

talking baot this in another thread previously i think.

wilter, Thursday, 12 February 2009 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

http://i44.tinypic.com/w8rszd.jpg

ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

We're Facebook buddies now!

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:14 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

“I liked Lady Gaga’s meat dress. It was funny. But I did that first in my Panic performance. Maybe she has seen what I’ve done – I don’t know. I like to think her song Alejandro was written for me. Her music is interesting. It’s interesting because it’s very free. But it has no meaning because what she’s singing has no hope. It is without hope. It’s only about revolution, which isn’t enough. We need a re-evolution right now, not a revolution. We need something new. Lady Gaga has a lot of energy and that is fantastic, but she is using old Surrealist images.

http://www.anothermag.com/current/view/1022/Alejandro_Jodorowsky_on_Lady_Gaga__Surrealism

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:14 (ten years ago) link

lol @ I like to think her song Alejandro was written for me.

has anyone read his psychomagic book? is it worth reading for someone who has already drunk the jodo kool-aid, so to speak?

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:18 (ten years ago) link

it is great. read it.

in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:39 (ten years ago) link

even if you haven't drunk the kool aid, it is jam-packed with jaw-dropping stories/anecdotes

in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:39 (ten years ago) link

just got his tarot book based upon your rec, love it

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:39 (ten years ago) link

They didn’t like science fiction or rock music or… let’s not make a list: the Surrealists didn’t like anything!

lol

in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:46 (ten years ago) link

Could have sworn I mentioned this, but I guess not: blu-rays of El Topo and Holy Mountain coming out in a couple of weeks.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:06 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Dune doc

american thinker (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:28 (ten years ago) link

Wow, I wonder if they have any period footage or production art or anything? Or if it's just a bunch of talking heads? Will definitely watch either way.

geir was right (wk), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:56 (ten years ago) link

there is a ton of production art out there. dunno about footage.

american thinker (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:00 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

http://tarotica.blogspot.com/2009/06/dead-rabbitsor-much-perfection-is.html

Jodorowsky writes, again in his book El Topo:

"When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women's contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, 'I'm not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.' Then I told her, 'Pain does not hurt. Hit me.' And she hit me. I said, 'Harder.' And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, 'Now it's my turn. Roll the cameras.' And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed."

乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 02:35 (eight years ago) link

he says a bunch of shit like that in the dvd commentary too

the late great, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 03:37 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Za7PlknnTw

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2013 01:01 (eight years ago) link

nobody anticipating? or is there a thread for this I missed?

scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2013 14:47 (eight years ago) link

anticipating! still haven't seen his last one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rainbow_Thief

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:11 (eight years ago) link

Jodorowsky's Dune documentary coming soon

Moodles, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:32 (eight years ago) link

excited

also for Dune doc!!

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:09 (eight years ago) link

I've still never seen The Rainbow Thief, either, but I bought that boxed set that came out a few years ago (El Topo, The Holy Mountain, Fando y Lis and some short films, plus the soundtracks to El Topo and The Holy Mountain), and I got the recent DVD of Santa Sangre too. Would love to interview Jodorowsky.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 20 May 2013 16:11 (eight years ago) link

he's disowned the Rainbow Thief fwiw, dunno if its worth watching

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:17 (eight years ago) link

I feel pretty safe skipping TRT, and also that children's movie about elephants that he did. But yes, I'm super pumped for this as well!

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:31 (eight years ago) link

is there an english language version of the trailer anywher

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:36 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rtrd1FewUFA

this just came up on my Facebook feed lol

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 20:08 (eight years ago) link

ok, PROBABLY NSFW since it won't embed

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 20:09 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxjkKDZLlo

Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:15 (seven years ago) link

want to see this so bad.

want someone to finish making jodo's dune.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 17:23 (seven years ago) link

I feel like this can't be anything but a disappointment, since it's just gonna dredge up feelings of wishing it had been made

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:43 (seven years ago) link

some dune projects have begun, then been abandoned, over the past few years. i realize it's a very hard story to convert into a film, but so was the lord of the rings trilogy, and that was done very well.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 17:44 (seven years ago) link

I like the Lynch version fine, altho obviously its totally different than what Jodo would've done with it

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 18:36 (seven years ago) link

you mean the theatrically-released version or the "director's cut"? i hear they're very different.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:45 (seven years ago) link

I was just reading about the propsed soundtrack for this thing, supposedly going to be split into thirds with Henry Cow, Pink Floyd and Magma.

an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 February 2014 18:56 (seven years ago) link

you mean the theatrically-released version or the "director's cut"? i hear they're very different.

both

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 19:13 (seven years ago) link

I don't recall any major differences tbh

How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 19:13 (seven years ago) link

I feel like this can't be anything but a disappointment, since it's just gonna dredge up feelings of wishing it had been made

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 14, 2014 11:43 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this

gbx, Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:17 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

never seen this poster art before

http://i.imgur.com/Z7cBVFp.jpg

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 16:30 (seven years ago) link

I've been reading a lot of The Incal comic reprints lately. They have all been excellent so far.

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 17:06 (seven years ago) link

Just caught Dance Of Reality on its last day of cinema screening. Aside from rough cgi near the start, a little rough acting and a few things that didn't look quite right, I liked this a lot. I'll probably even buy the dvd in a couple of weeks.
I really didn't expect this to be about the father so much. Loved the singing mother, she's so beautiful.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 September 2015 19:04 (six years ago) link

Looks like Endless Poetry has been funded.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 16:02 (six years ago) link

#82 sounds helpful, Herzog’s list of advice for filmmakers preferable though.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:51 (six years ago) link

Cant remember thread or idiot poster that was claiming jodo is an atheist but:

JodoEnglish (@AlejodoEnglish) tweeted at 11:52 AM on Wed, Sep 16, 2015:
They are only wrong when they say "God does not exist". In everything else the atheists are right.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:03 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

endless poetry is very personal and romantic (almost a manifesto), also funny (cake scene wth), and invigorating

ogmor, Sunday, 8 January 2017 23:14 (four years ago) link

17. Do not allow yourself to be impressed by strong personalities. - Jodorowsky OTM

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Sunday, 8 January 2017 23:21 (four years ago) link

Probably going to have to miss this on cinema because I'm getting a cold.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 January 2017 23:45 (four years ago) link

This dude's old enough that seeing this thread revived filled me with dread.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 9 January 2017 01:37 (four years ago) link

He's pretty confident that he'll get past 100 and he does seem in really good condition.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 January 2017 02:00 (four years ago) link

Although the route of the artist who does annoying shit to annoy his parents is a bit hippie-ish and I don't know if I need to hear another tribute to the counterculture, and its annoying from a Western POV there was counter-balance in 1) Parra's 'boring' teacher/poet, 2) his parents were fascists, and Chile was a fascist state.

I really liked Parra's 'Anti-poems' (should be re-issued imo) and this short story about Lihn by Roberto Bolano is fantastic: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/12/22/meeting-with-enrique-lihn

xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 January 2017 11:39 (four years ago) link

Love that. I'm always going to have an appetite for tributes to the counterculture. I think it just caught me at the right time, I really enjoyed it

ogmor, Monday, 9 January 2017 12:01 (four years ago) link

Might be able to see it Thursday if this cold goes away fast but probably not. The disc is out in March.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 9 January 2017 13:47 (four years ago) link

dance of reality was unexpectedly one of the greatest films i have ever seen about sons and fathers.

endless poetry def has its moments, but i found a rather long portion of the middle a bit indulgent, or without using that tired word, a bit whimsical. esp as he is so pretentious, and his actual art did not seem that impressive (i felt something similar watching paterson... admittedly this might be my feelings about much poetry). i think its also his son's performance. theres something a bit too plain about him. which might have been the point. but the younger actor who played AJ as a child was a more expressive actor than his own son playing him as a young adult.

StillAdvance, Monday, 9 January 2017 15:57 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

went to a double bill of the two latest ones today; dance of reality I enjoyed much more this time around, endless poetry started to wear me out after a while for the reasons others have given and also because I'd kind of had enough AJ by then - per xelab above, he undeniably has a childish streak (and is 1000% a hippy lol) & this can make two two-hour films feel like a real marathon. Pamela Flores (in a double role as mother/lover in EP) is easily the best thing about both films.

wins, Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:36 (four years ago) link

Oh also as a fan of disgusted walkouts from Cambridge's merlot-and-popcorn types I had to lol at sitting through 3 hours of jodorowsky (inc an 18 rating for "strong torture" in dance of reality) only to decide that a woman menstruating is just too much

wins, Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:43 (four years ago) link

Got the Dune documentary. A little annoyed that there was no mention of Henry Cow involvement.
Interesting about his hatred of film stars shaping the film industry. Makes you wonder why he thought putting up with Dali was a good idea other than respect for his work.

Richard Stanley's accent fascinates me. There should be a documentary about south African accents.

Don't think I really praised Dance Of Reality enough. I found that scene of the father working with the horse very moving when he looked so happy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 12 February 2017 02:17 (four years ago) link

dance of reality is seriously incredible.
i hope he finishes all the other films he has planned in this current series.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 12 February 2017 23:13 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

He comes across as so much more likeable and practical than Gilliam that one could almost imagine that he wasn't as completely impossible and then you remember he was gonna cast Dali and Welles and ah well t was a nice dream a beautiful dream

brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:20 (four years ago) link

Young Jodo was such a completely different person to current Jodo. Read any interviews c. "El Topo" and be prepared to be immersed in glorious batshit insanity.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:42 (four years ago) link

I do wonder if they could have done Dune without Dali because his conditions were just insane.

I enjoyed Endless Poetry but much less than Dance Of Reality. I thought it was a shame that his father's redemption was taken away. I've got mixed feelings about how miraculous and wonderful everything is treated as, on one hand it makes everything seem underwhelming because it's not living up to his hype, on the other hand Jodorowsky seems to really believe in it all and there's something really nice about how much value he places in art, even if it's in a cliched and arrogant way. I thought some of the poems were really nice.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:14 (four years ago) link

I wonder if you actually wonder if they could have done it without dali

The night before all about day (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:34 (four years ago) link

Why would the film studio care about Dali? Especially when he was asking for so much.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:40 (four years ago) link

I can wonder if you actually wonder that without having a conversation about it

But can we just clarify if you are sitting there pondering whether or not one of the five billion other people on the planet couldn't have played the three minute role in question

Because that seems an extraordinary thing to do. Extraordinary.

The night before all about day (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:47 (four years ago) link

Don't know what you're getting at but if there's other threads I have to read I'll leave it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:55 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.tor.com/2017/05/02/jodorowskys-dune-didnt-get-made-for-a-reason-and-we-should-all-be-grateful/

Partially about his claim that he raped the actress in El Topo.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 18:46 (four years ago) link

Also, see his tweet in the comments.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 18:55 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Is anybody in this thread in possession of the alleged screenplay?

TGKE, Thursday, 23 April 2020 12:52 (one year ago) link

I had the same reaction to the documentary as the author of the tor.com article. Went in expecting to be fascinated as per other people’s recommendations, but about halfway through something inside snapped, the emperor had no clothes, and it made me furious.

Kim, Thursday, 23 April 2020 17:34 (one year ago) link

The Island Of Dr Moreau documentary is waaaayyy better but I still think the Dune one is worth a go.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:42 (one year ago) link

I think his other films have their moments (especially Holy Mountain) but Santa Sangre and Dance Of Reality are the only ones I love.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:01 (one year ago) link

Still haven't seen Endless Poetry

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:31 (one year ago) link

Holy Mountain > Santa Sangre > El Topo

I've never seen Tusk, The Dance of Reality or Endless Poetry (or Fando y Lis, though I own the Anchor Bay box set that has it).

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:50 (one year ago) link

I really like The Dance of Reality. Has more heart than his other films, while still being batshit crazy.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:54 (one year ago) link

It's funny how the world's caught up to Jod - not just all the music videos and even fashion photo shoots that have stolen from The Holy Mountain over the years, but the fact that there are probably a half dozen telenovelas crazier than Santa Sangre by now.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:27 (one year ago) link

I'm guessing ST Vincent was referencing him?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:38 (one year ago) link

Got a link? I don't really know her work.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:56 (one year ago) link

hey TKGE can you email me again and put your address in the body of the email?

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 April 2020 01:02 (one year ago) link

whoops forgot i could email you through here sorry everyone

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 April 2020 01:02 (one year ago) link

there's a song called "huey newton" on that St Vincent album, I always figured the cover as a ref to the famous photo of him

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 24 April 2020 01:43 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

So those script scans upthread from march 2015 (Alejandro Jodorowsky) ...

In March 2015 a script, an apparent early draft of Dune written by Jodorowsky, appeared on eBay. When asked on Twitter about it Jodorowsky replied: "Es un falso guión con un dibujo idiota." ("It is a fake script with an idiot drawing.")

https://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 4 November 2021 13:59 (four weeks ago) link

Oh wait... In August 2018 however, official copies of the Jodorowsky's Dune script were sent out to backers of Jodorowsky's "Psychomagic, an art that heals" project on Ulule (https://www.ulule.com/jodorowsky/), and this script is almost identical to the "fake" script.

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 4 November 2021 14:00 (four weeks ago) link

The real deal, yours for around 30,000 euros (estimated):

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6345488

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 18 November 2021 11:03 (two weeks ago) link

Whoa

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2021 21:34 (one week ago) link

like everything else related to Dune, if you didnt get it before the remake came out, you are going to be paying a lot more for it now..

(goes to ebay, searches for Bruce Pennington cover of GEOD and then faints.)

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 13:12 (one week ago) link

This is a book of original art by Moebius & HR Giger. Did Christies really think it would fetch only $35K?

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:55 (one week ago) link

Oops – should have read to the end (1 of 10-20 copies). Yeah, $3M is something.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:57 (one week ago) link

A big chunk of that book is available online in decent scans. The storyboards are great. I think there's no way a quarter of that version of Dune as seen in the sboards would've made it onscreen.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:25 (one week ago) link


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