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the best thing in the doc last night — the "real GB" — was the "boycott wars" school musical performed by 8-yr-olds at the height of his struggle for control of the board of the yorkshire cricket club

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

back when i cared a bit abt cricket (= i wz aged 10-14), boycott wz a v.big name

i hated him but i disliked all batsmen anyway (yes yes excuse me i was 10-14)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:13 (twenty years ago) link

yes i watched this. The musical was fkn hilarious.

Of course wasn't old enough to see him as a batsmen but as a commentator I really liked him. You could see why he was good as a player.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:17 (twenty years ago) link

"is he in?"
"is he out?"
"we don't KNOOOOW!"
*lots of small boys wave cloth caps in air*

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:21 (twenty years ago) link

Hating batsmen = entirely sensible thing to do.

Boycott was a berk BUT incredibly important, if only for being so anti-establishment and bloody selfish.

Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

it wz curious watching this prog. then reading extracts of the "foul" collection (pieces dated 1974-76): i hate the dinosaurs meme but when ANCIENT LIZARDS RULED THE EARTH did pop into my head more than once

the fellow who read out the reason why YCC had sacked GB was ahem VERY OLD-SKOOL INDEED in a gentlemen-vs-players stylee

it was enjoyable watching f.trueman being out-bluddy-salt-of-the-earth-me'd

GB's sang-froid response to a reporter asking him abt death threats after the south african tour made me grin, even if his organising that tour totally validated my earlier dislike

(ie the reporter had a long q abt death threats and how did he feel, and GB — w/o even pausing in his search for a taxi — just went "heh" to himself, as in "the world's bluddy bonkers")

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

well from the doc he was so indifferent to everybody, which of course is v sensible as long as you don't do things like beat women up.

x-post: yes, another funny moment but I just read the grin as: ''just threats, no guts or bloody mindedness to actually carry out anything''

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

Watching Geoff Boycott bat was interesting only in comparison with listening to the whining, chip-shouldered old fart commentate.

Was he really the model for Palin's Eric Olthwaite?

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:48 (twenty years ago) link

actually julio yes, i think yr right about the grin/chuckle: anyway it wz a tremendously compressed bit of communication

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

Fred- that's why I liked him bcz he was so negative, he had a chip in his shoulder...but you know, eng in the mid-90s was just painful to watch (in a hide behind the sofa sense) so it was fine from that point anyway.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:55 (twenty years ago) link

i pretty much lost interest altogether after the late 70s — is cricket compatible w.punk rock? (if yes, then you prob have to be PRO boycott heh) — and was used to the commentary being pitched as "they were giants in those days" eg giants = already vanished figures like cowdray, laker etc, and today"s ( = mid-70s) whippersnappers were a shower of rub

this means there's a v.weird dissonance for me when eg trueman is talking about those same whippersnappers (whose names are all so many madeleines to me) as if THEY were the giants in those days and self-evidently NOT rub

it's like i missed a jump in the conversation (which of course i did: 20 years -worth)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

Well commenatary just isn't like that really. And channel 4's coverage is mostly triffic to me.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:11 (twenty years ago) link

this wz radio three's test match special in the autumn of its senescence julio (eg john arlott still on the strength, newly arrived c.martin-jenkins treated as snotty little fag) (fag in english public school sense obv)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and a lovely moist cake has just arrived from Mrs Thwaite in New Malden, do cut it for us CMJ.

chris (chris), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

If the ball comes to you wide of the crease and you've room to power off the back foot - don't hit it. Defend thee wicket.

If the wife comes up to you - hit it. Defend thee court case in France.

Geoffrey Boycott (daveb), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

ok I don't listen to test match special.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

the shot of the court-room today, deserted, made me wonder whether the whole trial was not in fact an ep of MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE! designed to give GB nightmares

everyone speaking in french!!
presiding judge = absurdly chic and model-esque blonde young frenchwoman!!


mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

this thread title made me catch my breath.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 5 September 2003 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

haha sorry

mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 September 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

WHEN ANCIENT LIZARDS RULED THE EARTH part 335: "He could hardly be seen advertising one particular product on the other fellow's channel" (!!!!!!) - some BBC exec explaining the departure of Percy Thrower from "Gardener's World" (oddly he was allowed to stay on the legendarily anti-commercial Blue Peter) in spring 1976

I used to work with this big strong fat bloke who, living down south for 20 years, consciously played the role of *the archetypal Yorkshireman*, exaggerated the bluntness for effect, consciously (but crucially NOT REALISING THAT IT WAS CONSCIOUS) refers to Lauryn Hill as a "coloured bird" etc etc (really nice chap, just OTT with the manliness and small-c conservatism) and I always thought Boycott and Trueman were his models; specifically in a lot of our conversations he was casting himself as them, while expecting me to play the CMJ role (I mean, I don't talk that posh, but you get the point). the hilarious thing though re Boycott's trial is that my very own archetypal Yorkshireman in exile etc etc NOW LIVES IN FRANCE!!!!

robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 7 September 2003 06:40 (twenty years ago) link

Recent exchange with Boycott talking to Mark Nicholas on Channel 4 (slightly paraphrased):
(After reflecting an a quick, unbeaten 160 from GB long ago, in a one-day match)
MN: (typically jocular) I was speaking to someone who said you were a slow batsman...
GB: (stony faced, terse) Yes, I've had lots of *idiots* who come up to me and say that.

& (Introducing GB earlier)
MN: You were a genuinely great Test batsman... More recently, a world-class commentator...
GB: Well, not good enough for you lot to give me a job!

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 7 September 2003 09:58 (twenty years ago) link

Wow. This thread is so over my head. I can feel the ideas and foreign words whistling past my brain, verging on the supersonic.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 7 September 2003 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

cricket is a v slow game laura.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 8 September 2003 07:58 (twenty years ago) link

i loved it when he brought out all his old conquests to defend his rep in france. having shirley western there in a short skirt LOOKING LIKE and ancient lizard didn't help his case any at all in my view, obv

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 8 September 2003 08:55 (twenty years ago) link

cricket is a v slow game laura

Hmmm. So those sounds were actually my brain cells dying a painful and lingering (albeit also noisy) death? It does help to know that the thread's about cricket. I was/am not understanding any of the references.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

lol

imago, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link

"thirteen years pass…" also seems apposite

mark s, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Greatest Living Yorkshireman strikes again

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

The one I'm surprised got no traction was during the TMS coverage the other day (Friday?) when he was malenting the lack of good pace attack the West Indies have these days - "It used to be, you shook a coconut tree and two or three fast bowlers fell out..."

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:11 (six years ago) link

*lamenting*

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:11 (six years ago) link

his cricket opinions are usually otm but sheesh he is unreconstructed re: everything else

imago, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link

I'm a Yawwwwrkshireman, I tell it like it is, like it or lump it, take me as I am etc.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link

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imago, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link

Ha, beat me to it!

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link

ah cud av nuked nuuth kureeah with a stick a roobaab

imago, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:27 (six years ago) link

he is just playing to the gallery, to some people his racist tendencies add to his legend status. ha ha he's done it again etc .. followed by unconvincing apology in incredulous - aye lad racist me? absolute tommyrot - some of my best friends are them Jamaican folk - style .. ad infinitum... Mind you he is total deadpool material, so maybe not much longer.

calzino, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link

Imagine being so desperate for a knighthood that you'll make these kind of comments to remind people you don't have one.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:40 (six years ago) link

maybe he needs to take some royal brown-nosing lessons off Billy Connolly. Although his was a long brown-nosing game, Geoff might not have that long left.

calzino, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link

They should knight Jimmy Anderson just to piss him off more

imago, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link

Or, better, Moeen :D

imago, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link

arise, Sir Haseeb Hameed ...

calzino, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link

that Bumble story upthread is *kisses fingers*

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link


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