i read like half The Corner before its library due date, really need to go take it out again and finish it.
i love Omar and totally get why he's the most iconic character from The Wire, but i can't imagine him being remotely my favorite out of all the great characters on the show.
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
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― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i can dimly see the objection to the first scene of the show, but criticizing 'the wire' for being writerly... very occasionally they go too far, but mostly not. 'the corner' is never writerly, iirc, but it's also kind of boring. i don't think 'the wire' is even aiming for that kind of verisimilitude -- example, it's set within the half-decade the show ran for, but also stands for about a quarter-century.
― moholy-nagl (history mayne), Monday, 17 January 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
it incorporates stories and situations and people from 1980s and 1990s IRL Baltimore but it's all internally consistent to the show's present day timeline, don't see how that has any relationship to the show's verisimilitude
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but all stories are embellished through retelling
― dayo, Sunday, January 16, 2011 5:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
what point are u even making here
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
sometimes real life is like this & dudes on the corner say some profound shit abt life
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
if a real life street dude said "thin line 'tween heaven and here" i'd roll my eyes at him too
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
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― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, January 17, 2011 12:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
o rly
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
norman is a great
― horseshoe, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i am trying to come up with a list of my favorite characters, but it would be more efficient to say everyone except marlo and namond's mom
― horseshoe, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess norman might be kind of a flat Good Guy but he's more fun than gus and i like the suggestion that he is in a cycle where he continually works closely with politicians who then disappoint him so he finds a new one -- like the whole country, but more intimate.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I love the deadness of marlo. Not that I'd list him as a favorite character but I love that after us building up this love for all these bad street dudes like Stringer or Omar, you get Marlo who is such a complete cipher, like a vaccuum of anything identifiable, just straight ambition. I find him kind of fascinating in a weird way.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i don't actually think he's badly characterized, i just hate him.
― horseshoe, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah SPOILERZ i really like the contrast between the rooted barksdale empire -- which is rapacious and destructive but which does things like fund cutty's gym not just as a repaid favor but out of a sense of residence in a community, and whose leaders eventually destroy each other because of incompatibilities/impossibilities in dreams and ideals they have that go back to childhood -- and marlo who just consumes money and people and has no discernible history. the show's position seems to be ALL THESE SYSTEMS ARE FALLING APART AND GETTING WORSE INCLUDING THE DRUG TRADE
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
plus in seasons 1-3 you get used to kind of rooting for stringer as the guy who wants to legitimize the outfit, over avon as the guy who seems too caught up in his own street reputation, and then at the end of 3 stringer turns out to have been hugely naive and just exploited laughingly by people who are playing a much higher-level destructive game than mere drug trafficking, and avon might actually have been the smart one, and then marlo shows up just to show you what someone who only cares about his own reputation actually looks like.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i fuckin love marlo
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Marlo is kinda terrifying to me.
As a written character I find his place in the story really interesting and great, but to watch, he leaves me begging for humor or sadness or happiness or anything. His flatness is really something else.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i might hear "you want it to be one way, but it's the other way" quoted more than any other line on this show and i think it's because after the barksdale/marlo contrast it hits people as being about entropy vs. order. like not necessarily in those terms, but: you want things to trend naturally towards complexity and justice and harmony, but they don't; they rot.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Norman gets some great lines - "It does have a certain charm to it. They manufactured an issue to get paid. We manufactured an issue to get you elected Governor. Everybody's gettin' what they need behind some make believe."
"Don't get the crime rate down, ain't no governor neither....Just a weak-ass mayor of a broke-ass city."
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah Norman is the shit
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually really liked Chris.
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
sometimes real life is like this & dudes on the corner say some profound shit abt life― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, January 17, 2011 1:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, January 17, 2011 1:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I didn't know "The Corner" was a tv show and I thought deej was just casually droppin some Chi-town street knowledge
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Marlo easily in my top 5
― gr8080, Monday, 17 January 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Chris was really interesting.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 17, 2011 12:55 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it wasnt about the show.
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
& im not claiming 'street knowledge' but hey whiney try not to ruin this thread please
wanna explain "o rly" for me
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i just mean that sure maybe its delivered in a *more dramatic way* but if u read the book the anecdote as told is completely believable & there's nothing 'out of character' for someone to have thought of just bcuz they happen to be poor & black imo
i mean huge portions of rap music are based around similar ideas & saying otherwise seems borderline condescending to me
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, January 17, 2011 1:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
if you were talking to a guy who knew someone who was just shot & he said something vaguely poetic about it, i guess some dude is probably the kind of dude who would roll his eyes so never mind me
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
if this starts to turn into another one of *those fights* the 3 of us are known for im probably gonna bow out tho
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link
if you were talking to a guy who knew someone who was just shot
now can i ruin this thread?
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
were talking about a specific anecdote, dude, where this occurs
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
hold on, let me remove my bookmark first..
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
based on a real life event
wait a guy that just got shot!? talk about loading the question.
haha xp
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
some dude are we not talking about the snot boogie story at the beginning of the 1st episode??
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
"thin line 'tween heaven and here" is something Bubbles says about 3 episodes later in a completely unrelated scene
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
oh i was thinking its what dude said about snot boogie
my confusion -- ok, well, coming from a junkie living in a shitty neighborhood i think the point still stands?
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
like, if the dude bubbles is based on said that to me i dont think id roll my eyes but maybe u are a different kind of dude
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif
― am0n, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
*damn* eyes
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
every thread now, guys?
― u aint messin w/ my dengue (gr8080), Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:35 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark
― gr8080, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
hi gr80 were discussing the wire
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah we're at least still on topic...FOR NOW
― Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
im not even sure were beefing abt anything at the moment
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
ok just making sure you guys stay in line
― gr8080, Monday, 17 January 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i like Chris.
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 17 January 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link