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that said I still have yet to finish The Wire season 5, and I've just hit the 'serial killer' arc which is kind of o_O to me, the first time I've ever "wtfed" at a major plot point on this show

five deadly venoms (San Te), Sunday, 16 January 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

some good stuff comes out of that plot, but yeah that is the main thing that drags down the whole season

some dude, Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

a show where everything was like real life would suck

― gr8080, Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:01 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ Thee realest talk.

some good stuff comes out of that plot, but yeah that is the main thing that drags down the whole season

― some dude, Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:56 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The second time I watched the last season, that whole plot arc was less of a bete noire and became more tolerable, even lolwtfhahah (Bunk's reactions mostly).

nomar little (Leee), Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember being like "NO NO NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING!???" for the first few episodes of the serial killer plot but iirc enjoyed how it played out.

like the ziggy complaints, also don't get ppl who complain about how "annoying" the newspaper reporter character is and/or how he could make s5 unenjoyable.

gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

also, whole serial killer plot was worth it just for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGNwn2yXnTM

gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

he is really annoying - because he's supposed to be really annoying - and there's a constant tension where as a viewer you just want to see him get what's coming to him, and it doesn't come soon enough

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol gr080 yeah that was great

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

it has been mentioned before, maybe on this thread, maybe on one of the poll threads: one of the weaknesses of Season 5 is that the new characters have less depth - specifically the newspaper people. It makes me wonder if that was because they are more like the show's audience and thus the writers didn't feel it was as necessary?

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Simon had too big of an axe to grind in that seaso ..he was way too close to it so it was all characters serving his DO U SEEEEE points.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

On the other hand, the tragedy of the decline of the newspaper industry didn't seem so tragic compared to the other characters losing their families and getting killed.

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean: witty political columnist getting forced into early retirement with the buy-out vs. Prop Joe getting forced into early retirement by a gunshot to the head.

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I agree. His focus was way skewed in this season.

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus guys, jordan is on season 2

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno about skewed -- like, maybe the hypothetical educated professional viewer would normally care more about the newspaper's problems than the death of a drug dealer and a stick-up boy, however the show has spent four seasons humanizing the drug trade and its players, so I was "oooh nooo! Omar!" and "Awwww they killed Prop Joe!" and when saintly Gus doesn't get to do the right thing in the newsroom, "hmm, that kinda sucks. Oh well."

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

that opening scene is a good example of the 'writerly' style that probably rubs j0rd the wrong way.

The opening scene (replete with Snot Booger) is repeated almost wholly from the "Homicide" book, as are a few other bits and pieces throughout the show.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe a kindly mod could take out the last couple of spoilers? It killed me when I'd just finished season four and inadvertently found out about XXXXXX being YYYYYY in season five

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

It is a shame that aren't threads for each season of this show, but that request is pretty much "You want it to be one way, but it's the other way."

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, great line but I can't even remember where it's from

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

no don't tell me

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

people who really and truly wish to avoid spoilers don't hang around message board threads about the thing they haven't seen all of yet

Alex Da Dad (some dude), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

it's kind of like busting into someone's bathroom and going OH GOD YOU'RE NAKED WHAT THE HELL

Alex Da Dad (some dude), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Ismael - it was in season 4.

some dude - otm

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

people who really and truly wish to avoid spoilers don't hang around message board threads about the thing they haven't seen all of yet

What's more, they should really stay away from a thread for a show that's been off the air for 2+ years.

Fairport Dinkum Convetion (Leee), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

but we're talking hypothetically here -- I mean, did J0rdan say he didn't want spoilers?

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure that all people want spoilers unless they explicitly state otherwise.

Fairport Dinkum Convention (Leee), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

it's not unreasonable to assume

lolxpost

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

hey jordan here's where omar gets shot in the head by a little kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CshAkqlAj1o

gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i texted him and told him not to open the thread so he's good

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Tell him it's safe now.

Fairport Dinkum Convention (Leee), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPt5FOw_yIA

Fairport Dinkum Convention (Leee), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

rilly tho?

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

hate to break it to you J0rd, but Marlo really likes candy

sarahel, Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

well done gr8080, that's precisely the clip I saw right after watching the last ep of s4

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i think the fact that omar dies got spoiled for me on ILX but the circumstances and even which season it happened in were still unknown to me, which was kind of awesome because it made the stakes even higher every time i watched a scene with him

gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

omar is my favorite television character ever btw
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/omar.jpg

gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

when i'm like 3-4 seasons behind on a show and i accidentally read a spoiler about something that happens in an episode i probably won't catch up to for months or years, i just try to forgot what i read

Alex Da Dad (some dude), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i have a mind like a steel trap so that's v v hard for me to do

gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, the act of trying means that thing is then always in the front of my mind, whether I'm thinking about the show or not

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

it helps if it's some involved plot development involving characters or circumstances that haven't been introduced yet in the episodes i have seen -- obviously something like "(super memorable character) gets killed" doesn't pop out of your brain easily.

Alex Da Dad (some dude), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

omar is my favorite television character ever btw

GOAT imo

ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

one of my favorite characters on ILX!

dayo, Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The opening scene (replete with Snot Booger) is repeated almost wholly from the "Homicide" book, as are a few other bits and pieces throughout the show.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, January 17, 2011 5:21 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

and so I'm to assume that it was transcribed directly from a tape recording of whatever real-life situation it was taken from?

dayo, Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I think David Simon heard a cop retelling that story.

Fairport Dinkum Convention (Leee), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but all stories are embellished through retelling

dayo, Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I just read The Corner co-written by Simon & Ed Burns - a Baltimore detective for 20 years & then a public school teacher. interesting perspective there, to say the least. you can totally see the genesis of several Wire characters in the real people on The Corner: D'Angelo Barksdale & Bubbles. fascinating book whether you've seen the series or not.

only skimming this thread since I'm in the middle of season three

hubertus bigend (m coleman), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

uh, don't read the ~50 or so posts above yours

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i really want to read the corner too

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

mouzone's right hand man is the actual dude from the corner book

am0n, Monday, 17 January 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i read like half The Corner before its library due date, really need to go take it out again and finish it.

i love Omar and totally get why he's the most iconic character from The Wire, but i can't imagine him being remotely my favorite out of all the great characters on the show.

Alex Da Dad (some dude), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Omar
Bunk
Ziggy
Frank Sbotka

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 17 January 2011 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link


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