"The Wire" on HBO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS7gAt7XkBk

i have sorta just tripped over this on late-night TV down here, it's around season 4 i think? so so so so good, i'm definitely gonna have to go back to the start.

3 > 1 > 2. that's as far as i'm through in the past month. couldn't really get with the eastern european prostitute thing, as much as i loved frank sobotka as a character. bell + barksdale = epic, beautiful. can't wait for season 4 (torrent). i'm behind everything.

ziggy was fun but i'm glad he got the time. maybe season 6?????????/

I didn't think I'd be into the dockworker stuff but it seems they can thrown anything into the mix and write it so you start to like the characters and want to see what happens to them. Ziggy was an idiot, the Fredo of the Sobotka family. I have no idea if he's going to ever surface again.

I'm midway through season 3 now and I'm glad it's back to Stringer and Avon and Prop Joe and all that.

Maybe this is a stupid question but I've been wondering - why heroin? Doesn't anyone smoke crack in Baltimore, or is that a whole other unseen and equally big part of the problem going on off-screen?

I only finished Season Four two weeks ago. I've dipped periodically into this thread to sort out plot complications but have been too intimidated to post.

Without having seen Season Five I'd rate'em 3>4>1>2.

Favorite character: Prop Joe. Nothing this character (and this actor) does is predictable.

2 is totally underrated by jerks

you think Ziggy would like Season 2?

why heroin? Doesn't anyone smoke crack in Baltimore

of course they do but heroin is the #1 problem in the city. 'the corner' mini-series covered both equally iirc

4 > 2 > 1 > 3 > 5

4 > 2 > 1 > 3 > 5

-- abanana, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:04 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^^^

I'm almost done with Season 3, should have it polished off by the weekend. I'm glad that the Barksdale organization is back in focus this season, although so far the dockworkers are more interesting to me than Carcetti and the whole city politics angle.

That's probably all I'll say for a while, though. I've been resisting even opening this thread every time it gets bumped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTM6BiUoqo

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

hooooly shit so much animated gif potential (xpost)

Take it from me, Jimmy McNulty...

Gayer in this clip: Freamon or Colvin?

what in the fuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS9_wtekt8c

His next projects include a feature film about a true but unlikely romance between Donnie Andrews, a Baltimore holdup artist who robbed drug dealers (and inspired the character Omar Little on “The Wire”), and Fran Boyd, a crack addict who recovered with his help and married him last year (and was also a character in “The Corner”).

FEEL GOOD MOVIE OF THE YEAR!

just one Emmy nomination for the Season 5, to match the other Outstanding Writing For A Drama Series nomination it lost in '05. kind of glad it turned out this way (even better if there was no nom at all), better for the show to go down as unjustly shut out of the awards than to get thrown a bone at the last possible minute for its weakest season.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0805.carey.html

Seriously Vic: that is an important find.

that is a great article caek

yeah, it's crazy.

for those of you who can't be bothered to click through:

On November 16, 2005, Willie “Bo” Mitchell and three co-defendants—Shelton “Little Rock” Harris, Shelly “Wayne” Martin, and Shawn Earl Gardner— appeared for a hearing in the modern federal courthouse in downtown Baltimore, Maryland. The four African American men were facing federal charges of racketeering, weapons possession, drug dealing, and five counts of first-degree murder. For nearly two years the prosecutors had been methodically building their case, with the aim of putting the defendants to death. In Baltimore, which has a murder rate eight times higher than that of New York City, such cases are depressingly commonplace.

A few minutes after 10 a.m., United States District Court Judge Andre M. Davis took his seat and began his introductory remarks. Suddenly, the leader of the defendants, Willie Mitchell, a short, unremarkable looking twenty-eight-yearold with close-cropped hair, leapt from his chair, grabbed a microphone, and launched into a bizarre soliloquy.

“I am not a defendant,” Mitchell declared. “I do not have attorneys.” The court “lacks territorial jurisdiction over me,” he argued, to the amazement of his lawyers. To support these contentions, he cited decades-old acts of Congress involving the abandonment of the gold standard and the creation of the Federal Reserve. Judge Davis, a Baltimore-born African American in his late fifties, tried to interrupt. “I object,” Mitchell repeated robotically. Shelly Martin and Shelton Harris followed Mitchell to the microphone, giving the same speech verbatim. Their attorneys tried to intervene, but when Harris’s lawyer leaned over to speak to him, Harris shoved him away.

if Omar voted Ron Paul

man, that's some crazy convergence. an ex-ceo was just convicted here today of tax evasion. he got deep into this radical "common law" christian identity libertarian stuff. they're gonna get him on more i think, he kept talking about god wanting him to kill the judge...

there was an episode of law and order on yesterday w/ that, it was mostly lols as sam waterston kept yelling object

heh

www.redemptionservice.com

Despite the United States Federal Reserve Bank asserting claim that "Washington, D.C." is over 8 Trillion Dollars in Debt to the Federal Reserve Bank, most Americans today fail to realize that the United States Federal Reserve "BANK" is a "PRIVATE" Bank! Fifty years ago this fact was common knowledge among many Americans. It was even taught in school as part of History class. Today, it is no longer even mentioned in school and most Americans are completely oblivious to this once common knowledge. So who owns the Federal Reserve Bank, you ask? No, NOT American Citizens! The Federal Reserve Bank was created through an Act of Congress and came into existence from the "Federal Reserve Act of December 23, 1913." Created from an Act of Congress; but more-or-less a "HYBRID" (Created through Legislation; but as a Corporation with privately held stock). Eighty-Five percent (85%) of the Stock is held entirely by European International Bankers. These foreign Shareholders/ Owners being entirely European Jewish families:

Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin

Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris

Israel Moses Sieff Banks of Italy

Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam

Lehman Brothers Bank of New York

Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York

Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

Goldman Sachs Bank of New York

Click here for chart outline of the ownership of the Federal Reserve Bank

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lol

Soon, Shystyville CDs with titles like “Pure Shit” became evidence of not just the conspiracy but the crimes themselves, with prosecutors entering into the record lyrics like these:

I watch ya brains fly all over on the bitch next to you
Homeboy it’s up to you I could put this pup to you
Then to pumpin’ you up like a innertube
Send shots that’ll pump up the end of you
Leave you all fat and bloated you know I keep
the Mac loaded then I like ta clack rollin’
That’s why Bo and Weez on lock now and every day on lock down
Niggas getting shot down for runnin’ they mouth clown
Tell me how it feels with a gun in ya mouth now

Prosecutors alleged that the “bitch next to you” was Lisa Brown, who was sitting beside Oliver McCaffity when he was shot through the head, that a “pup” is slang for the largecaliber revolver used in the killing, that the “Bo” on “lock now” was the imprisoned Willie “Bo” Mitchell, and that the reference to “Niggas getting shot for runnin’ they mouth” amounted to witness intimidation. Faced with the prospect of an all-white jury hearing this music in the courtroom, the defense lawyers objected on the grounds that lots of songs have lyrics that “proudly refer to violent retaliation,” offering by way of example country star Toby Keith’s “Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue (The Angry American).”

recently saw Clockers for the first time...not only does it feel very Wire-y (wiry?) in retrospect, but bird and wee-bay are in there.

Richard Price cribbed a good amount of dialogue for the Wire from Clockers, mostly stuff that didn't get used in the film, like "big paws on a puppy."

Not like this is official or anything, and I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but:

At the EMA (Entertainment Merchant Association) show this week, being held at the Palms Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, HBO Video and Warner Home Video have announced that The Wire - The Complete Series is coming to DVD later this year.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Wire-The-Complete-Series/9915

I watched the first three episodes of Season Five (spoiler alert).

Although newsroom and City Hall politics are as well-drawn as usual, for the first time I sensed that Simon's cynicism was beginning to curdle his ideas. Bunk, the newspaper editor, McNulty – all utter some variation on the line "life sucks and we can't get shit done." And, so far, the guy who plays the executive editor is a buffoon.

if you'd been through what they'd been through wouldn't you feel basically the same?

though i don't see gus as being very cynical. he's the fire under the butt of the reporters under him and he still wants to chase down good stories - in fact he still believes good work is possible to such an extent that he goes right up against the exec editor about it

the problem w/ Gus wasn't cynicism, it was his saintliness

there are people like that, though!

Funny you mention this – not two minutes ago the interim associate dean of the journalism school left my office decrying the state of the industry and how we (Student Media) can help sharpen the kids' skills in the new world.

I don't have a problem with the conflicts – several friends have accepted buyouts or been laid off in the last two weeks as major newspaper conglomerates panic – but the obvious manner in which they've unfolded is disappointing.

Episodes 4-6 tomorrow.

"executive editor is a buffoon" = Whiting, not Haynes, right?

lol I am in a race with Alfred now to finish season 5, I just watched 1-3 myself last night

and btw y'all Regional Affairs Editor Rebecca Corbett played by Kara Quick got straight ROBBED in the wire babez poll yes i said ROBBED that woman was ROBBED

I think I'm going to like this season, it's got a lot more melodrama dominoes lining up, and nobody's learning any lessons. By the final episode I fully expect Baltimore to be razed to the ground. No spoilers please.

I like the return of McNulty The Rake myself.

there was a wire babez poll and i missed it??!!/ :(

going by some journalism people I know, Gus seems pretty realistic actually. I don't think he's saintly it's just there is a v strict code of ethics and if you take it seriously, you take it seriously. god knows what goes on in "newsrooms" for those talking heads pundit shows, though.

Will be getting the first two discs of S5 tomorrow. Excited.

WIRE BABEZ POLL
WIRE BABEZ POLL (dudes edition)

I thought all the Sun stuff was pretty OTM actually. Particularly the speech about 'doing more with less', I have been on the receiving end of the exact same speech from more than one publishing bigwig in the last few years. LOVE Gus.