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Since this is a disturbingly common belief amongst my (former) British friends, and I've seen it mentioned very briefly on this board, I'm going to ask: why do so many English people seem to hold the belief that Irish-Americans are all IRA-supporters who donate vast sums of money to "the cause"? How did this belief get started?

Ally, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

...to elaborate:

1) It's just simply not true. While there are some Irish-Americans, I'm certain, who are IRA-supporters, there are also some Arab- Americans who support Osama Bin Laden, and some Cuban-Americans who en totale support Castro's regime, etc etc etc. They're hardly a majority of the people and, indeed, if I walked around saying "All Black Americans support Farrakhan's beliefs" I'd be branded as a racist asshole, besides the fact I'd clearly be wrong.

2) Why do the English feel so above the IRA? Again this is directed more towards my former friends and no one specific around here, but the common sentiment I have received is that these supposed IRA- supporting Americans now "know how it feels" and the reaction is very smug and they go on and on about "US terrorist operations" in Middle Eastern countries. Why do my friends seem to believe that the behavior of the British military in the Irish situation is so much more class and wonderful than the IRA? Do they not see that this would be a smaller scale version of exactly what they are accusing the US of doing?

3) Why don't they just declare Northern Ireland its own country and shut up already and stop their bitchin', all of ya'alls?

Ally, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd start meeting friends in different places perhaps Ally. I don't know anyone who genuinely believes this. A commonly held belief is that Irish-Americans often tend to be so gung-ho towards the "home country" despite only their great x6 grandad having come over or whatever. I held a bit of scorn towards that for a while, but you've got to think of it in the terms of US immigration and the countries history.... which isn't what we're talking about here. Seriously, I don't know anyone who considers your statement up there to be the case.

Sarah, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree. I've met some Americans who are ridiculously pro-IRA because they're great-great-great-great-great-great-great Grandfather was Irish, but I can count them on one hand. That attitude is just a bit silly, really. I may as well feel great empathy towards the plights of apes for similar reasons.

But anyway, the British government is in many ways to the IRA what the US government is to the Taliban. There are arguments on both sides and not everything is black and white.

My opinion? I lost two friends when the IRA bombed Manchester. I lost two friends when the WTC was destroyed. I don't like terrorism no matter what.

Paul Strange, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Incidentally, I do worry about the plights of apes. Poor chaps.

Paul Strange, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

See, that's my point, who supports terrorism besides ultra-extremists and by definition ultra-extremists are not a societal norm.

Like I said, I no longer speak to these friends over this, so yes, I have started going in different places to find friends. Except those friends are crap too.

Ally, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You could always try the small ads, Ally. "Wanted: Friends Who Are Not Extremists, Ultra-Violent or Pro-Terrorism. GSOH a necessity."

Might work. Just don't place the ad in "Terrorism Monthly", "Soldier Of Fortune", or anywhere like that.

Paul Strange, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Most Irish-Americans don't support the IRA, just as most Irish citizens don't. The minority who do have consistently provided cash and arms eg NORAID eg noraid

stevo, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The IRA managed to get a fair bit of money out of a tiny minority of rich and foolish Irish-Americans, as I understand it, by playing up "the cause" and playing down the bombing, kneecapping, punishment beating aspects.

(Your point about the British forces in Ireland is a good one and one we're more aware of than you might think. Something *I've* noticed on this board from some Americans is the0 assumption that British commentators only want to see the full picture/understand the causes of terrorism when it's extremists attacking America and not when it's something like the IRA. In fact all the people I know who've been talking about US foreign policy or ambivalent about a military reaction have been entirely consistent with their previous positions on the IRA. You can call it appeasement if you like, but it's not hypocrisy.)

Tom, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Curiously, I'm Irish and I've always had the idea that ALL Irish- American spend all their time sending money over to the IRA. That's all Irish-American. Every last one of them.

I'd say the belief comes from the fact that the IRA & Sinn Fein have a massive fund-raising network in the USA which is very good at milking Irish Americans. No doubt many Irish-Americans don't cough up, but enough do to make Sinn Fein awash with cash to an almost frightening extent.

DV, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

In the Irish Republic here there was a proposal recently to ban political parties from receiving funds from outside the State. I'd say this was probably done to stop evil foreign millionaires bankrolling parties, like what happens in England. But the proposal had to be dropped in order to keep SF onside in the peace process and stuff, as most of their money comes from outside the state.

DV, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The 'Americans are happy to fund the IRA' thing single most annoyingly overplayed chestnut I've heard from the anti-war faction over the last fortnight. It's just not helpful cause most Americans can just say 'no I'm not'.

Nick, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've also heard of collections taken for "families of prisoners" and so forth, when the money is just really going to NORAID. As I've said in another thread, they quite explicitly target those Irish-Americans whose ancestors came over a long time ago, profiting from their ignorance.

Kerry, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The feckin Irish are funding them plenty. There is a huge amount of armchair republicanism down south, ie people who know little or nothing about the conflict itself except United Ireland=Good, British=Bad.

Ronan, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well I think what a lot of the armchair fools fail to think about is that, in general, Northern Ireland doesn't want to go back to being part of Ireland, which is why I always try to suggest the entirely- separate-state thing that seems to irritate both sides neatly.

Anyway, like it or not the only way to end terrorism is via counterterrorism so theoretically both sides are right but it's not a very pleasant thing to have to think about.

Who mentioned hypocricy again?

Ally, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Give it 20 years. Republican majority will occur. Britain will leave as soon as they get a chance. United Ireland, nice for about a month, then economy is fucked up and people down South resent the North and its citizens

Ronan, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've always been of the opinion that the people of Northern Ireland should chosse their own destiny. It's not like every returned MP from NI represents Sinn Fein, eh?

DG, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I always try to suggest the entirely- separate-state

Um, that's sort of what got us into this bout of the troubles in the first place. Post war NI had its own parliament until the early 70s. The domination of this parliament by the Unionists and the massive amount of discrimination against the Catholic minority contributed heavily to things kicking off again 30 years ago.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm. Here's one: I support Castro. Where does that place me kids?

chris, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Soon looking for a new figure when he dies. ;-)

A hilarious story -- circa 1993 or so, House of Pain gets interviewed, and you might all remember their little Irish-American hip-hop schtick ("Shamrocks and Shenanigans" -- HAR HAR HAR). The Stud Brothers do the interview and ask what they think about the IRA; House of Pain says that they like 'em. The Studs then note that the IRA is rather well known for doing things like finding pot dealers and kneecapping them and the like. The notably pro-pot House of Pain mutter and mumble and never quite come up with a good response.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

surely northern ireland isnt just about britain versus the ira?

what about proddies vs the catholics?

religious angle?

kids going to school being reduced to tears?

the way i understood it, the 'why cant it just be a separate state' thing totally overlook the horrible complicatedness of it all?

its been going on for 300 yrs now......can't see a reason for it to stop now....

ambrose, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

King Billy employed by Pope. No doubt had a few hardliners spluttering in disbelief.

Billy Dods, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That story would be a lot more impressive if it wasn't about Geri Haliwell's weight control regimen. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sure some hardliners were snorting in disbelief at that. Anyway I got the correct story and very interesting it is too, though "3.5 million in todays money" was surely one groat then.

Tom, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Wasn't the whole point of William III that he was the 'Spenser for Hire' of Kings, anyway. Brit powers-that-be bought him in as monarch provided he played along as sovereign figurehead w/o Divine Right etc etc.

mark s, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I really wish th e prots and caths could just forget thet bullshit and live their lives. But thats what religion often does.

Pennysong Hanle y, Tuesday, 25 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Mike - unfortunately, for a lot of them that IS their lives. Remember the 99% rule.

dave q, Tuesday, 25 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

In a statement to the Stack family early last week, the IRA said its members were acting on orders when they carried out the attack. However, the statement said the attack was not authorised by the leadership of the parliamentary organisation. “Some years later, when the Army Council discovered that its volunteers had shot prison officer Brian Stack, the volunteer responsible for the instruction was disciplined,” the IRA statement said.

Speaking alongside his brother Oliver outside Leinster House this afternoon, Austin Stack told how the family members received the statement last week from a former senior IRA leader at a meeting with Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams.

He and his brother were driven in a blacked-out van to an undisclosed location off the M1 motorway near Dundalk. The ex-IRA leader read the statement to them over a table in the private one-storey house, before asking them to transcribe it for themselves.

Austin Stack said the meeting, over tea and biscuits, followed a series of talks between the family and Mr Adams. He thanked Mr Adams but said the family was still left with unanswered questions.

how fuckin bizarre is this

Dr Peter Who? (darraghmac), Friday, 9 August 2013 23:33 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

So I mean

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Monday, 6 March 2017 23:46 (two years ago) link

You're an Irish Catholic far enough away from the six counties and young enough to not really know enough about it except that everyone is sick of it and wishes it would stop and eventually it does

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Monday, 6 March 2017 23:47 (two years ago) link

And you maintain a high horse attitude to the ra and any who sailed in her. And by and large the remnants of Irish republicanism who remain/ed active are easily thus treated, being little more than the worst type of John Aldridge looking ratlean greyeyed heistman shootist argue marxism in the pub cut off dentists fingers in the back of a hiace maniac. That or balaclava outlet store FCA biyiz who figured drugs and protection rackets was as good a way to see out the Celtic tiger as any.

Sean bean, before getting too beefy was, essentially, a good shout.

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Monday, 6 March 2017 23:53 (two years ago) link

But you every now and again get into a wiki spiral for whatever reason- today's stems from a page on the TV doc on the Gibraltar shootings, thence Michael stone, thence Sammy duddy and you get reminded of something we don't, that I've noticed, talk about:

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Monday, 6 March 2017 23:55 (two years ago) link

Loyalists.

Loyalists, the paramilitary ones, right, are deeply, deeply fucking weird.

Like, they're fucked in a way that Sean bean doesn't convey.

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Monday, 6 March 2017 23:56 (two years ago) link

They're mad max villains.

They've all got fetishes.

The sadism apparent as a modus operandi is disturbing not just in itself but in its repeated and systematic deployment

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Monday, 6 March 2017 23:57 (two years ago) link

There's a vernacular out of a malevolent dickens via settler australia that's redolent of an anachronistic martial existence that assumes a cultish, brutish sinister aspect in context.

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:00 (two years ago) link

Each time I find a wiki page that causes me to reaffirm this belief I may post it here, as I'd be curious to see what if any thoughts the yanks have, for starters. Then the UK crew.

The paddies, arah shure we can argue about it again sometime.

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:02 (two years ago) link

Role in loyalism Edit

Duddy was initially known in Belfast for his drag queen act, performing in the city's clubs and pubs as "Samantha". His costume consisted of a long, black wig, fishnet tights, falsies, and heavy make-up.[2] He once performed for British troops on tour.[3]

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:13 (two years ago) link

To avoid any possible implication in the Kincora Boys' Home scandal, Duddy ended the drag act in 1981 under orders from Tyrie, who also told him to grow a moustache and drop his voice.[3]

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:14 (two years ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hester_Dunn

Early life Edit

Rogers was born into a Protestant family in Northern Ireland and brought up in staunchly loyalist east Belfast. She describes herself as "an Ulster woman".[1] Rogers worked for a time as a belly dancer.[2]

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:15 (two years ago) link

Wendy Millar (born 1944) also known as "Bucket" and "Queen of the UDA" is a Northern Irish loyalist and a founding member of the Ulster Defence Association (UDA). She established the first UDA women's unit on her native Shankill Road in Belfast. Her two sons Herbie and James "Sham" Millar are also high-profile UDA members and her daughter's husband is former West Belfast brigadier "Fat" Jackie Thompson.

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:25 (two years ago) link

Another group, the Sandy Row women's unit gained notoriety in July 1974 when its commander Elizabeth "Lily" Douglas ordered her "Heavy Squad" (a gang within the unit who meted out punishment beatings) to bring Protestant single mother Ann Ogilby to a "Romper Room" where she was subsequently beaten to death.[4] "Romper Rooms" were locations where UDA victims were brought to be "rompered" which was a UDA slang term for a torture and beating session prior to "execution"

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:26 (two years ago) link

You maybe don't want to look much further in that last episode if you're feeling squeamish

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:27 (two years ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Millar_(loyalist)

All of this one, good stuff

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:33 (two years ago) link

Adair heard that Dodds' cousin William "Muggsy" Mullan had been drug-dealing with the Shoukri brothers, Adair's rivals in North Belfast, and so Adair ordered Mullan to pay him a £10,000 fine or leave Northern Ireland. Mullan's family scraped together £7000 which Dodds took to Adair but he refused to accept it and Mullan was forced to flee. Winkie's brother Milton "Doddsy" Dodds met some Adair's men in a bar and asked them why the brigadier had treated his brother so badly but Donald Hodgen punched him and later that night Adair's ally Fat Jackie Thompson led a punishment squad to Doddsy's house where he was beaten with baseball bats. The following day Winkie Dodds decided he had had enough of Adair's erratic behaviour and he and his wife left the Shankill

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:40 (two years ago) link

Following the actions by Jackie Thompson that forced Adair's supporters off the Shankill Road Dodds and his wife returned to live in the area. By this time Dodds was forced to walk with a stick and had difficulty speaking due to his stroke.[35] Nonetheless when asked his opinion of Adair soon after returning to the Shankill Dodds stated of his former friend "he's a fucking wanker".[

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:41 (two years ago) link

They are crazies, but I'm from Scotland so I know that Lowland Scots, I'm one of them, are world champion fanatics and lunatics. By the way:

Give it 20 years. Republican majority will occur. Britain will leave as soon as they get a chance. United Ireland, nice for about a month, then economy is fucked up and people down South resent the North and its citizens

― Ronan, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Five more years, lads.

Return of the Flustered Bootle Native (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:44 (two years ago) link

Thompson remained close to Adair who gave him the title of "Provost Marshal", a role which effectively gave him control over knee-cappings

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:44 (two years ago) link

Was interested in your take for sure tom

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:44 (two years ago) link

Adair would later be assaulted by Irish republicans while attending a UB40 concert.[10]

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 00:48 (two years ago) link

Just a few more million starved, penned and whipped into misery is all we wanted by god

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:07 (one year ago) link

The real enemy was the fucking Christian Brothers industrial schools. But obv picking up the slack from a defeated 6th army against a force bigger than your country might seem pretty sensible when your on very strong shrooms, in the pre countrymeters.info era!

calzino, Saturday, 10 February 2018 00:39 (one year ago) link

Gearóid Ó Cuinneagáin (born Gerald Cunningham[1]; 1910–1991) was an Irish far right politician born in Belfast in present-day Northern Ireland.[2]

He originally worked as a tax clerk in the Department of Finance before resigning when refused leave to improve his Irish.[3]

omar little, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:07 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/new-dissident-group-issues-execution-threat-to-drug-dealers-1.3460001

im howling with laughter at this photo of this new dissy group

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 April 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

fearsome looking bunch of silver service waiters there!

calzino, Friday, 13 April 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

the guy sitting down didnt put his balaclava on right

well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 13 April 2018 18:42 (one year ago) link

let's have a quick chorus of "Mammy" then lads

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 April 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

the guy sitting down didnt put his balaclava on right

― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, April 13, 2018 11:42 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i still can't figure out what's going on with that lad.

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 April 2018 18:45 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

see i had an observation upthread that sexual perversity feeds into some of this shit

freddie stakeknife, both-sides (three sides?) player, double agent hitman, up to his neck and subject of major controversies over british collusion in planned and known murders

done for bestiality porn the day

not. fuckin. normal.

puppy bash (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:59 (eleven months ago) link

obviously a lot of evil bastards in the ra but scappatici is something else. spending your days torturing and murdering for a cause you don't even believe in, torturing and murdering people you know have done nothing "wrong" to cover your tracks.

the internal security unit was one of the dafter organizational decisions of the ra. going from the old structure of brigades and all that, which were an intelligence nightmare, everyone in a local area knowing all their fellow volunteers and where they lived etc. the active service unit model makes a lot more sense. then you give internal security access to everyone, and you get a mole at the top of it. whole organization compromised

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:15 (eleven months ago) link

love a bit of armchair paramilitarism

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:16 (eleven months ago) link

A terrible man.

Monica Kindle (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:22 (eleven months ago) link

always good to see ye in here lads tbf

puppy bash (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:39 (eleven months ago) link

I've kind of fallen off my few years of obsession with the troubles. miss it a little bit. lebanese civil war and modern iranian history are the new obsession.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:59 (eleven months ago) link

glamour of the continental game trevor

puppy bash (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:02 (eleven months ago) link

bearded men brought together by their shared love of high explosives, you just never get tired of seeing it

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:11 (eleven months ago) link

There's apparently the possibility that a couple of volunteers fought alongside the PLO in Lebanon, which I would love to find out more about.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:13 (eleven months ago) link

i can't believe it's not ourselves alone

― mark s, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 5:28 PM (ten months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^slept on imo

mark s, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:13 (eleven months ago) link

It did tickle me I admit

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

arah lads is it yerselves alone thats in it

puppy bash (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:11 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

i would call my dissident group IRA Classic

― khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:21 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mega-IRA

― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:24 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i can't believe it's not ourselves alone

― mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:28 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yknow you're right mark this was fuckin quality

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:48 (eight months ago) link

anyway i came in here to note that now is about the right time in ethan hawkes life and career that he plays billy wright, what dye think

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:49 (eight months ago) link

haha, he'd look the part if he slimmed down.

not sure what his attempt at a portadown burr would be like.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 23:16 (eight months ago) link

better than kevin spaceys crumlin lookit

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2019 23:17 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

I really fancied a girl who lived on the same estate as me. She was really rebellious and very much into the struggle. I thought she'd be impressed with my joining the IRA. Needless to say, I got 18 years, went to jail and never saw her again.

— Seán ó Conghaile (@SeanConnolly67) June 1, 2019

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 22:21 (five months ago) link

you hate to C it

godfellaz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 22:24 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

rip u daft cunt

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Frazer

godfellaz (darraghmac), Friday, 28 June 2019 19:44 (four months ago) link

lol

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:06 (four months ago) link

"victims rights campaigner"

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:07 (four months ago) link

Willie Frazer. You utter utter cock: http://t.co/rN2AJEsUMM pic.twitter.com/H8ZstEOQMV

— LAD (@LADFLEG) February 15, 2014

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:07 (four months ago) link

I actually almost yelled at that on this train.

Let’s remember him as he would have liked.

As a Trump fan who thinks the threat to nuke the North could knock the paddies into line
https://youtu.be/fI68I5g1H0A

The time he dressed up as an Islamist extremist to attend court (!) in protest at him being charged under the same hate crime laws as a brown person
https://youtu.be/6RL_eEM3xTA

Or as the guy who goes off at flags?

In May 2012, after seeing the Italian flag being flown as part of a cultural event held in Donaghmore's St Patrick's Primary School and mistaking it for the Irish Tricolour, Frazer accused the school for 4-to-11-year-old children of being "the junior headquarters of SF/IRA youth", stating on Facebook that "I wounder do they also train the children in how to use weapons, for it seems they can do what they wont."(sic) Concerned for the safety of students and the school's reputation, teachers informed police of the accusations and photographs of the school posted by Frazer were later removed from Facebook.


Just...hating...that...Irish...people...exist
In 2014 Frazer attacked the BBC for having a supposed Gaelic Athletic Association top on the soap EastEnders and that "it glorified terrorism" and the IRA. The top in question turned out to be a PE top from a Ballymena school. When asked if he wanted to apologise for the mistake he refused.


Maybe this most of all:
Following the 2013 horse meat contamination in burgers scandal Frazer gave an interview to The University Times in which he claimed horse meat had actually been introduced to the food chain by the IRA five years before the scandal broke. He also claimed that republicans were behind "old fat cows that are 30 months old" being sold for food before adding that "a blind eye has been turned to it" and that "this is the kind of thing that's going on that we're sick of".

govussy blues (gyac), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:14 (four months ago) link

oh can't you tell
oh can't you seeeeeee
the IRA will sell auld beef

VAR me to the end of yawn (jim in vancouver), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:15 (four months ago) link

Just mad I can’t find a video of him dressed up in his sash going “what did you say, you slabber?!”

govussy blues (gyac), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:17 (four months ago) link

the hash my father etc

godfellaz (darraghmac), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:19 (four months ago) link

Following the 2013 horse meat contamination in burgers scandal Frazer gave an interview to The University Times in which he claimed horse meat had actually been introduced to the food chain by the IRA five years before the scandal broke. He also claimed that republicans were behind "old fat cows that are 30 months old" being sold for food before adding that "a blind eye has been turned to it" and that "this is the kind of thing that's going on that we're sick of".

fucking hell. dying at this

||||||||, Friday, 28 June 2019 20:39 (four months ago) link

what a piece of work

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 28 June 2019 20:48 (four months ago) link

I feel a bit sad that how someone who grew up playing GAA in school could become such a bitter human being...some of willie’s greatest hits Chris Morris would find hard to write

Master of Treacle, Friday, 28 June 2019 20:58 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

John Ignatius Quinn, commonly known as Seán Quinn,[1] is an Irish businessman and conglomerateur.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:35 (one month ago) link

chiefskiss

provisional ilx (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:02 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

main suspect in quinn assaults/kidnapping died this morning during a derbyshire raid of his property

sounds big

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2019 11:46 (one week ago) link

"The man, who's in his fifties, is reported to have taken ill while police searched his home in Derbyshire."

ogmor, Friday, 8 November 2019 12:08 (one week ago) link

amazing the info available on him all a sudden

martin mcguinness cousin. fairly notorious bandit, smuggler, atm thief, what-have-you for many years

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2019 15:45 (one week ago) link

Member of Parliament for Derby North since 8 June 2017.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 8 November 2019 15:51 (one week ago) link

"dublin jimmy"

ت (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 November 2019 17:12 (one week ago) link

this is a fuckin amazin story tbh

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 8 November 2019 17:16 (one week ago) link

for balance, let's remember about the brits:

www.newsletter.co.uk/news/crime/kevin-lunney-abduction-suspect-cyril-mcguinness-helped-ira-bomb-london-in-1990s-but-died-in-police-raid-today-1-9135569/amp

deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 November 2019 03:39 (six days ago) link


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