However, Dustin said "You better watch it, in these times you never know who is listening and watching".
Do you feel paranoid about disagreeing with the media/telethons/war/George Bush/Democracy?
― Jay Simon, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I found the events of September 11 very tragic and horrific.
However, on a scale, war is more tragic and horrific. The sheer
amount of people that will die and it that revolution will not be
televised...isnt that more terrible? That innocence Afghanstans will
be killed in America's war against terrorism, from a man, George Bush
who essential stole the election? That same man talking about
democracy, when he *stole* the election. That the speech that he
made, essential sets America up as a policing force for other nations
(if you are not with us, you are for the terrorists). Is that not
horrifying? 6,000 lives versus Millions in the Middle East.
And what about the military? My best friend, Mark, is a Captain in
the military, a great guy, what if he dies defending Bush's statement?
I find the whole thing is being whitewashed by the media at the
moment. The consequences are not being fully explored, just the
― jess, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Second, to bring up something I already did on another thread --
unquestionably there are tons of horrible implications that can be
drawn out of potential American reactions and overreactions. But
here's the thing -- if you're not in favor of a military response,
then what is your proposed solution towards how to track down the guy
currently assumed to be behind this, dear Mr. bin Laden, who is not
going to give himself up voluntarily, who is not affected by economic
sanctions or diplomatic pressure, and who in general doesn't give a
flying toss? Or are you just saying he should continue to just sit
there doing whatever?
Until you and those like you can articulate a response which allows
for all that, your position falls apart. And don't even try to claim
I'm some sort of right-wing jingoistic brainwashed nutball, because
you are *so* barking up the wrong tree with that one.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
But to answer your question: yes, I feel paranoid, but no more
paranoid than I feel when dealing with people on a day to day basis.
(God, that makes me sound loony. What I mean is that I rarely expect
people to agree with my views unless they happen to be named Ned
Raggett, and even that's not 100%. It's all a matter of how you
broach the subject and how you handle antagonistic discussion.)
― Dan Perry, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
This is one of the only problems I have with your post. Great guy or
not, HE SIGNED UP FOR THE JOB. What if he dies? Well, sad for you and
his friends and family but he did AGREE TO DO IT. It's not like it's
a big surprise if you sign up for the military and then get sent to
duty, I mean that is what they are there for.
Trying to reply to just your current points and NOT your other posts
on this board, which quite frankly have disgusted me, as Ned asked:
what do you suggest is done instead? Bush is a wankface idiot, yes.
Bombing Afghanistan is mainly pointless, the people have nothing
anyhow so it's not like it's worth anything to them. But how exactly
does the US respond to this? Sitting on its collective ass,
going, "Good show, terrorists, way to get us!" I don't see how you'd
propose to fix the issue at hand, particularly if the Taliban doesn't
want to give up those responsible.
― Mr. Jones, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Norm is on CHEERS.
― Sarah, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― DG, Monday, 24 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gareth, Tuesday, 25 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link