There are better spots than OC out here, believe me, but I'm comfortable enough. :-)
3) Innate hatred of the type of people who come on a thread about NYC and then proceed to big up Worchester and LA.
Show me where I specifically talked about LA on this thread and I'll agree to this point. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
Other reasons for NYC is a built up image of glamour and star power and grit that is long gone and no longer a reality. AKA what Tracer said, it's kind of hard to add anything to what he said. He didn't really mention the drugs.
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
I'll agree. Right now if I was recommending places to get out to from somewhere -- strictly in American terms -- I'd suggest Seattle or SF, actually. Those living there would probably have their own perspectives on why this would be good or bad.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
I've encountered far more grit living in East Dallas than I did in NYC.
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
Who's moving here, Nick? Anyone I know?
And c'mon: NYC = Disneyland? Don't believe yr own hype, yo. NYC's nightlife is amazing, it's the center of the arts universe, it's filled with a ridiculous amount of beautiful people, you don't need a car and if you are aiming for an entertainment- or financial-related job, it's the place to be.
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Modj, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
...and entertainment jobs are moving to Canada because of the "Canadian Advantage"
― Modj, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link
It's stuff like this that sticks in my craw, Yanc3y! I'm not blaming you, I've just heard it too often with further explanation or context -- I'm all for self-fulfilling prophecy and everything but is it actually true?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Sarah Mclusky (coco), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.hollyeats.com/images/New%20York/Hallo-Menu.jpg
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
Where I worked up there, only two of us were native NYers. Everyone else came from somewhere else. One of those natives, my Creative Director, never travelled in the US really. Why should she, she reasoned, when she lived in NYC. She was half French, half English, hardly bathed and was the most obnoxious person ever.
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:41 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:42 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link
I'm glad NY exists.
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:47 (twenty years ago) link
i hate it, Chris, or at least i've told myself that many times
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
Ya think? I dunno. I have wanted to be/always felt like I am a writer and all, but I figure urban mystique in your brain is where you find it, I can pitch to editors and hash out ideas on-line, you can download all the music and art and whatever you like in life these days, and I can walk out from my door and get great ramen, soul food, Cuban cuisine and fish tacos (and Iranian and Indian food etc.) within a hundred yards. So I dunno, it seems less necessary that NYC specifically should be it.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:50 (twenty years ago) link
NYC undoubtedly offers more writing-related job opportunities than many places, though.
(The German Soul Food is one of the few things that has made me want to visit NYC.)
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
Being moved to write verse/stories/songs/scripts about it and capture the "vibe"=horribly cliche.
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
I'm sure you're right there, given the publishing houses and all -- since that's never really appealed to me as a career path, NYC was never going to be a beacon on that front, but for others (Nabisco, for instance?) it would be a darn good holy grail.
it's pretty much our platonic ideal of 'the city;' anywhere else is just 'a city.'
*rubs chin* Sorta yes, sorta no. Mine seems to be a combination of NYC's transit setup with Melbourne's beachfront and SoCal's food.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:54 (twenty years ago) link
and therein lies the humor
― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
That's because, what 8 million people pack themselves into 25 square miles or something every single day? (i'm pulling these numbers out of my ass but I'm sure they're not too far off). That's one of the biggest reasons I have for no longer living there.
The most desolate, decript bums I've ever encountered were in London.
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link