I can't have gout; I'm fucking 24!

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My big left toe really hurts. It's come on since this morning. I've not eaten liver in ages, or drunk port. I had soem fish the other day ad half a bottle of red wine on Monday night, but that's very tame. I'm wearing the same shoes as I did Monday (Superstars!) and my toe was fien then (plus I've had the shoes for a year!). So why does my toe hurt so fucking much? Owey owey owey.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

>I've not eaten liver in ages, or drunk port.

Port gives you gout?

fletrejet, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

maybe it's because you haven't taken your shoes off since monday

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

I thought this thread was going to be about weird STDs picked up from group sex.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

Aye. And I love the stuff. And liver. Steering clear of them is my equivalent of a pension plan; ie; as close as I get to planning for the future.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe you have a splinter? Or ingrown nail? Or you stubbed it?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

liver = really good for you - eat more of it...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

Remember that King of the Hill episode where Bobby starts eating liver all the time at this new deli and gets gout and has to drive around in a little golf-cart type thing? Yeah, me too.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link

I also like liver and port. Liver I haven't had in a while, but I just bought like 4 bottles of port in a clearance sale.

Gout is caused by excess iron, right?

fletrejet, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

excess uric acid

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

OK, here's my secret. I'm 30 and have had gout attacks twice since I was 27... The pain is mind-bending, like nothing else I've ever experienced. The latest research suggests that diet does not have as much to do with it as previously thought - heredity seems to be the determining factor. My only old-wives advice is to alway drink plenty of water. I stopped for a few months and had another attack. Also, there's no real cure, unless you use colchicine which can cause serious side-effects like blood-poisoning and death. Little is known about the actual metabolism of how the crystals form, why they attack one foot instead of the other, and how and why they go away...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

Yeep. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

shit, that sounds terrible Spencer.

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

it's bad, but clearly there are worse things to get. Gout is not fatal and it's mainly a pain management thing. It goes away after a week and then you never even think about it. Also, my doctor immediately prescribed Vicodin which gave me sweet dreams.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

Eat cherries or drink cherry juice. Tart pie cherries, sweet bing cherries - it doesn't seem to matter. A handful a day seems to work for most people. (Oddly enough, most gout victims to whom I've told this say they *hate* cherries. There's probably a connection...)

Another horribly painful condition is shingles. Large doses of Vitamin E (1600 IU 2x/day plus topical application of E oil) will usually stop it in its tracks and make it go away.

Carpal tunnel? Vitamin B6. Start with 100mg/day. If no relief after one week, increase to 200mg/day. If no relief after another week, increase to 300mg/day. You can go up to about 1000mg/day - but I've never known anyone who needed to take anything like that much to get pain free. Once the pain is gone, continue at 100mg/day as maintenance. Several folks I've told about this have been facing imminent surgery and didn't have to get cut after starting on B6... (I regularly approach total strangers whom I have heard say the words "carpal tunnel" and give them this spiel. I can't stand for people to be needlessly in pain - and to have needless surgery. The docs don't need the money and nobody needs to risk general anesthesia when something else works better...)

Judy Steffel, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

I have a female freind who has had gout attacks since age fifteen.

And Hopkins to thread.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 24 July 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

six months pass...
Arrgh, I think I have gout now. Apparently, despite being good for everything else, oily fish is bad for gout. I have been eating mackerel all weekend. I was out on the lash last night and as is often the case, felt funny in my hands and feet as part of my hangover. But this time the joints in my hands got really really painful. My mum has just been diagnosed with it. I hate gout.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

Someone gave me a magazine from 1983 last night that has instructions on how to build and embroider your own gout stool.

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm going to start taking larger doses of omega-3s (fish oil, Christopher Eggs, keep eating fish, etc.) to see if the low-level symptoms I usually get rid of with Aleve will disappear. I would like to increase my water intake, but I might float away.

I've quit drinking and smoking completely, but neither seems to have had an effect yet.

My vagina has a dress code. (milo z), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

i shared that something happened to me, so my story is here, very very painful:

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Bee OK, Saturday, 7 November 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

Layoff the meats, added sugar, and most fruit juices. Recommend these vids from Dr. Greger:
Miocene Meteorites and Uric Acid
Flesh and Fructose
Apple Juice May Be Worse Than Sugar Water
Gout Treatment with a Cherry on Top
Treating Gout with Cherry Juice

On the bright side Bee, you're at much lower risk of Parkinson's: 1, 2, 3

Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions & god-like technology (Sanpaku), Saturday, 7 November 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link

i have switched from cokes to vitamin water, now i'm wondering if i should lay off those as well?

thanks for those video, going to watch them now.

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 November 2015 03:41 (eight years ago) link

If you have the non-diet kind, the first two ingredients in Vitamin Water are crystalline fructose and cane sugar (50% fructose). When tested, Vitamin Water had 4 g fructose/100 ml (85% E from fructose) vs. 7.2 g / 100 ml for Coke (65% E from fructose). Overall, a 20 oz Vitamin Water would have about the same fructose as a 12 oz Coke.

Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions & god-like technology (Sanpaku), Saturday, 7 November 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link

wow, i really didn't think you would know, thanks.

i'm not really fat but overweight a bit. i got gout from alcohol, pure and simple as i'm pretty good with everything else everyone has been telling me and reading about. so i quite drinking and i do believe i should be fine going forward.

Bee OK, Saturday, 7 November 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link

I had some gout flareups a while ago. I seriously curtailed my consumption of beef and beer for a while, but the main thing that helped was a prescription anti-inflammatory (indocin). Worked immediately and I've had no recurrence in 6 months.

Beef, seafood, alcohol in general but especially beer - these aren't things I can realistically live without. Reducing them is feasible but to cut them out completely would be to deny myself too much joy.

forbidden fruitarian (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 8 November 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

I am no longer 24 but I think I might have gout, or rather my doctor does. Was in fucking agony last night, couldn't sleep, and today I'm like Hopalong Fuckin' Cassidy. Barely had I hobbled into his surgery and he had it diagnosed - I mean, do I look like gouty or what? I suppose it's a blessing my tennis elbow - or rather tennis elbows, at one time I had it in both arms - has cleared up or else I may as well have retired from life.

Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

Uloric is a godsend. Allopurinol did nothing for me, but 80mg Uloric (generic from India, I can't afford it in the US) means I haven't had even a light flare since two or three weeks into taking it, regardless of what I eat.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

It took almost a year to get the dose right but Allopurinol worked for me in the end, haven't had an attack since; it was getting pretty bad though, like really severe 10-day attacks coming on about once a month. I still treasure ungoutiness on a regular basis, while hanging on to my supply of colchicine just in case.

(I found colchicine would make an attack go away in around 36 hours if I caught it early enough, and that's what made the year trying to get onto allopurinol properly bearable.)

Tim, Friday, 9 September 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

had this for the first time last year, and the swelling was out of this world, mostly because I didn't realize drinking and red meat help cause gout among other things, and was trying to 'drink away the pain' one night (lol). i had to get anti-inflammatory drugs to be able to walk properly again.

drank beer two days in a row this weekend, feel the beginnings of a flare-up. sigh. time to pump the brakes.

Febucip 40mg every other day has kept me from getting a flare up in ~5 years. Allopurinol did nothing.

I think I got it from genetics and chronic dehydration. I had an 18 month long sinus infection and the student health center’s solution when I was 21 was to sell me 180 count bottles of pseudoephedrine every two weeks.

I did lose a lot of weight though.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 25 July 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

so I beat my latest bout with prednisone, but had some residual leftover inflammation (nothing serious) and am worried about it being a recurring thing, so been trying to get prescribed allopurinol and have the uric acid test. I go to a practice that took over for my old doctor who retired and they're a bit clownish but it's easy to get appointments quickly and I haven't had bad care so I had been reluctant to change.

so anyway the doc really wants to avoid that for some reason, and wanted to give me colchicine instead for the residual inflammation, and only wanted to give me allopurinol if that didn't work. I reluctantly agreed, but then I get to the pharmacy who tells me I have to stop taking my statin while taking this or else the two together could kill me due to myotoxicity. which my doctor didn't say a thing about. allopurinol has zero interactions and is more of a preventive drug. at this point the residual inflammation is tolerable compared to uncontrolled cholesterol!

boy howdy I am pissed. I'm only with this one doctor because six months ago, the other one in my practice was simply too busy to see me and they keep sending me to this other one, but after this I'm going back to her and eventually finding anotehr practice.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 June 2024 18:58 (one week ago) link


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