Doc Ock loves you, Spider-Man fans

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The hype starts here?

http://www.superherohype.com/news/jul03/docockposter.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 July 2003 06:01 (twenty years ago) link

docockposter

is that an order?

Sommermute (Wintermute), Sunday, 20 July 2003 06:16 (twenty years ago) link

I see the link's already been overloaded, I guess. More info:

http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=723

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 July 2003 06:19 (twenty years ago) link

Molina = solid choice! He looks like the guy from the Eels in that poster though.

Sommermute (Wintermute), Sunday, 20 July 2003 06:54 (twenty years ago) link

Doctor Ock! Damn, I was hoping it'd be Kraven.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 20 July 2003 07:45 (twenty years ago) link

Doc Ock might love me, but my heart, right now, belongs to only one.

I hope Raimi & Chabon & Co. incorporate the unflattering jumpsuit, the goggles, and the Ditko arm dialers in some way.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 20 July 2003 13:05 (twenty years ago) link

Like so. (That pic of Ock w/ the cigar - first on the left - is, of course, classic.)

Also:
http://ffmedia.ign.com/spider-man/multimedia/spideydroctopus.jpg

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 20 July 2003 13:08 (twenty years ago) link

Yes but once again a geek character is remade so that everybody in the whole movie is "cool" - the appeal of Dr Octopus (more so Mole Man) is that they've been consumed by how outside they are of any/all of the action. Key to this is that they're not pretty. This is why I haven't seen any of the comic-book movies - unprettiness is key with a capital K to lots of what's going on in so man of these classic comix, but as close as you'll come to ugly in one of these movies is somebody pretty who's been half-heart/assedly uglified.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 20 July 2003 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

John, I was thinking the very same thing, but in context of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake due this October (produced by Michael Bay!) - I've resigned myself to the fact that changes beneficial to box office hoohah will be made to Spidey et. al., but as long as the adaptations / mutations (ha) don't affect the source material too much, I'm fine w/ it (which is why all this "draw Wolverine like Hugh Jackman" funny book nonsense of late is irksome).

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 20 July 2003 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

Over at AICN's discussion on this, the subject of discussion is indeed coolness or rather the black leather trenchcoat Matrix version of same as applied to our non-hero.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 July 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

Dr. Octopus is not Lou Reed, damn it!

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 20 July 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

Doc Ock is a twat.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 20 July 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

So should baddies be medieval-style, all covered with moles and warts and stuff?

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 20 July 2003 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

Why, yes, S1utsky, J0hn wishing that the adaptations stay truer to the source material does mean that unattractive, squat, repugnantly unattractive villain types look like lesion-happy Black Plague extras. ("CUT! Damn it, I said BOILS! This crap looks like acne!")

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 20 July 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

I think movies have less leeway for unattractivity than comix.

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 20 July 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

Well but they needn't - that depends on whether the filmmaker/studio is at all interested in making something genuinely interesting or just sticking to the formula. Which is an idealistic thing to think about, of course. As for the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake, the less said the better I think - it's my favorite movie of all time, and that the most attractive person in it is rather plain is one of its most endearing qualities.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 20 July 2003 16:44 (twenty years ago) link

Dr. Octopus is not Lou Reed, damn it!

Doc Ock is a twat.

Well, OK, so maybe he is Lou Reed.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 20 July 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

But John ugly villains is part of an older formula! More interesting would be an ugly superhero no?

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 20 July 2003 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

I hope at one point in the movie he starts freaking out and singing "Sister Christian".

Larcole (Nicole), Sunday, 20 July 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

Hahah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 July 2003 23:56 (twenty years ago) link

Just so long as he isn't cavorting around in bikini briefs

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:08 (twenty years ago) link


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