Chris Ware - C or D?

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No VCRs and porno tapes in 1906, Joe wishes it was 1986.

Well, there was Rocket Sam...sorta.

There was totally Rocket Sam! And also the long long Superman storyline in the new book, c'mon.

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sure all those who are trashing Ware for doing the same thing, albeit very very well, over and over again have gotten rid of all their Ramones albums...right?

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link

LOOK I LOVE THE COMIC BOOKS AND I LOVE THE FINALLY SORT OF CROSSING OVER BUT THE OTHER DAY I WALKED INTO A BOOKSTORE AND EVERYTHING WAS DRAWN BY CHRIS WARE WITH AND INTRODUCTION BY MICHAEL CHABON AND PUBLISHED BY MCSWEENEYS AND ON AND ON AND ON!

let's spread the love a little bit.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY CHRIS WARE'S FAULT, IS IT?

Plus the comics section in my Barnes & Noble is at least 50% manga; if you want to hate on someone, hate on the Japanese.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, "GRAPHIC NOVELS" section.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Send Cotton Hill after the slanty Tojo bastards, that's what I say.

I guess one of these days I'll maybe learn to dig manga, but so much of what I see is all the same and boring.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I never knew he did Floyd Farland, Citizen of the Future! I remember seeing that around super-cheap back in the day bcz no-one was interested.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I like Ware so much because I grew up on Tintin comics, and his books/strips have a very Tintin look to them, especially the coloring and the heavy black outlines.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I think maybe if I someday have a daughter, I will name her Laligne Claire

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Chris Ware has always been in the so-classic-he's-dud category for me. So self-serious, my god.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, it's okay for "comics" to be serious, of course. But the over-the-top packaging of the books makes it all feel like some luxury item.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Tracer, that's so there will be an endless suppy of headlines that read: THIS JUST IN, COMIX AREN'T JUST FOR KIDS ANYMORE! (I actually think their is just one graphic novel/manga article that makes the rounds of newspapers and magazines and a word or two is changed here and there to make it current.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not blaming Ware at all, I'm a big fan, just commenting on the saturation level. It's frustrating to read all those articles, like the one in the New Yorker recently (there was a thread on I Love Comics) where you get these critics jumping in, reading a few books and passing judgement on the entire art form.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, it's okay for "comics" to be serious, of course. But the over-the-top packaging of the books makes it all feel like some luxury item.

His OTT packaging is so far from serious that it can't even see the light of serious! hundreds of jokes! COMIC STRIPS ON THE EDGE OF THE COVERS ffs.

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 27 November 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

what has he been up to lately anyhow?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Building Stories running weekly in the NYT; Rusty Brown running weekly in the Chicago Reader; editing and designing McSweeney's #13; compiling, reworking and doing new material for the Pantheon "Book of Jokes" collection; doing a book tour for said volume (sometimes in concert with Charles Burns for Black Hole); designing book covers for Penguin; designing the ongoing Krazy & Ignatz reprint series including the massive five-years-worth hardcover; having work in at least two gallery shows; taking over publishing from FBI on ACME Novelty Library, and putting out the first issue (#16). That's the last six months covered, were you looking for earlier or more specifically recent than that?

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Why did they make Jimmy Corrigan look like he was 80? He looked older than his dad.

I think this was one of the major things holding me back from enjoying Jimmy Corrigan.

Abbott, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

http://m.assetbar.com/achewood/autaux?b=M%5ea11f09b8576e606bcb5038dfdb92fb821&u=http%3A%2F%2Fachewood.com%2Fcomic.php%3Fdate%3D01112008

i thought for sure this was why you revived

gbx, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

he's drawn to look real old because he's such an outcast and is not really a part of his generation, surely? He wears old man clothes also.

And yeah, i assumed you were reviving for achewood too.

Slumpman, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

But how am I supposed to know he's not real old if he looks real old? I was seriously confused on how old he was until he met his dad, basically, and that is a long way into the book.

I was going to ask, too, "And where the hell does he buy those Mr. Toad clothes?" but it's a comic so that would be a silly question.

Abbott, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

there are clues here and there like he still has a mum, and there's a reference to him being middleaged near the start of the book. but honestly i think it was intentional, he's so crippingly awkward he's not good at being any age so why reveal it.

Slumpman, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

He's a child when he speaks to his mum, he's sort of an old man at work, his coworker colleague talks to him like a man in his sexual prime but he's none of those he just sort of exists.

I'm surprised that not knowing his age annoys people!

Slumpman, Friday, 11 January 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

for some reason i just grabbed the acme novelty libary from my shelves and read it all. Rusty Brown and Chalky White just stunning stuff, heavy at times but had to keep reading to see where it would all end up.

And Jimmy Corrigan is great, I need to re-purchase this after giving it away as a gift.

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Tuesday, 23 June 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone see that Chris Ware mural or facade or whatever above that gallery in the Mission? If it's not his then it's obviously in tribute, with Quimby-type mouses and empty word balloons all over the thing.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Rusty Brown and Chalky White just stunning stuff, heavy at times but had to keep reading to see where it would all end up.

how did you get back here to post, shouldn't you still be reading until 2015 or something?

fucken cumstomers (sic), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I never, ever get the point of this guy ever.

Garri$on Kilo (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

xp you mean above the pirate store? pretty sure that's him, since that store is mcsweeney's headquarters or something

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh Jesus Christ it figures.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 06:11 (fourteen years ago) link

how did you get back here to post, shouldn't you still be reading until 2015 or something?

noo not the whole series, just the series in the book i have (not sure of the number, it's the one that ends with Chalky White vs Brittany year sum up)

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link

http://i40.tinypic.com/20kor5u.jpg

(╬ ಠ益ಠ) (cankles), Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

:-/

i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link

lyfe, man

i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link

everybody kill themselves now!

Nhex, Thursday, 25 June 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Our kids play together in the park a lot. Nice guy!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 June 2009 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Read ANL no. 20 aka Lint the other day and he'd be classic all over again just for that. (My impressions above still hold for a certain strain of his work and most everything he's been doing lately I've barely kept in touch with so i likely have missed a bigger shift but Lint as a self-contained standalone is amazing stuff, actually living in the past, present and future in a way that works more for me than he'd used to.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The previous issue was a similarly stand-alone chapter in the giant Rusty novel, and also serves as another answer to

I wish he did some other things too. Like a space adventure comic or something.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 27 November 2005 11:15 (5 years ago)

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side splitting genital based username (vdgna) (sic), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

20 is amazing. It's a "raise the bar" moment for American comics - keep up folks! 19, with the intertwining of pulpy sci-fi and a sad humdrum existence, is highly recommended as well.

For someone whose work I'd previously thought of as top-down experiences - tremendous for a mental workout, but not immediately engaging - those two books are arguably the some of the most viscerally engaging lose-track-of-time works of art I've encountered over the past few years.

Ramen Noodles & Ketchup (R Baez), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I forget the review I scrounged up which noted that if this were something by Lethem -- or more to the point, written in Lethem's text-only medium -- it might garner wider attention beyond the Ware niche. My thoughts on that aren't to agree or disagree, but to think that Lint really proves the point that Ware can tell a story about the 'real' world in a way that I admit I would not have read or even thought about reading if it were simply word-only fiction (or, for that matter, a movie in that vein). It's not a sign of the supposed maturity of the form, more that Ware's use of the form itself succeeds where others will not or cannot, at least for me and I'd guess for others as well -- a straightforward story of Lint in verbal fiction could well be a compelling read, but if you sold it to me with "It's a book about this schmuck of a well-off straight white guy over his entire life and his struggles and self-delusions and all that" I would not care to explore it at all. Ware makes me care, that's a gift.

Related to which, the use of lacunae throughout is masterful.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate not having a decent comic book store in my town anymore. I would always buy these when I saw them but for some reason I never get it together to mailorder them from a town only a 5-hour drive away.

sleeve, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

better distributed to bookstores these days tbh.

side splitting genital based username (vdgna) (sic), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Cool endpaper diagram from Ware’s “Building Stories” (ACME Novelty Library No. 16)
http://hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Building-Stories.jpg
right click - view image - zoom in

All his Building Stories comics will be distributed as “many little books in a beautiful box” early October 2012.

I haven't read all the Building Stories installments that were published in New York Times Magazine, The New Yorker, Acme Novelty Library, etc., but I hesitate to think there will be any new material in this box set. Nor do I think he'll ever release a graphic novel with all new material ever again. Just stuff like ACME and compilations.

I'll probably like this box set as if it isn't all old stuff, but whatever.

we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 24 May 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

that is fucking gorgeous and oh will i buy that for sure

I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

i stand by some of my cranky criticisms in 2003, but after acme nos. 19 and 20, and the most recent batch of building stories strips, i really feel like i am living through the flowering of one of the greatest living artists.

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 24 May 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

I hesitate to think there will be any new material in this box set.

I don't.

Nor do I think he'll ever release a graphic novel with all new material ever again.

He never has.

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

correct me if I'm wrong but the jimmy corrigan strips were mostly all different than the stuff in the book...

we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

ok i hate stuff now but i really really want that box.

jed_, Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I'm probably wrong. I picked up the giant Quimby the Mouse book after I read Jimmy Corrigan because I wanted to test out other Ware. The Quimby the Mouse book put me off ever trying to read anything else because I didn't like having scattered mini installments all in one book

we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

apparently this is really dope btw. i've only read stray syndications of a couple of them.

unprotectable tweetz (schlump), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link

With the increasing electronic incorporeality of existence, sometimes it’s reassuring—perhaps even necessary—to have something to hold on to. Thus within this colorful keepsake box the purchaser will find a fully-apportioned variety of reading material ready to address virtually any imaginable artistic or poetic taste, from the corrosive sarcasm of youth to the sickening earnestness of maturity—while discovering a protagonist wondering if she’ll ever move from the rented close quarters of lonely young adulthood to the mortgaged expanse of love and marriage. Whether you’re feeling alone by yourself or alone with someone else, this book is sure to sympathize with the crushing sense of life wasted, opportunities missed and creative dreams dashed which afflict the middle- and upper-class literary public (and which can return to them in somewhat damaged form during REM sleep).

*buffs lens* (schlump), Sunday, 14 October 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

First ever coffee table book that's about the size and weight of a coffee table.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 October 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link


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