Reminder: Melissa/ Radiohead on BBC 2/ Later

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and I decided to make the extra half minute's walk to the BBC tv centre just to try one last time to get a ticket for Jools. As luck would have it, the second guy I asked had a spare. No way was I turning it down. Had an absolutely fantastic time. Watch for me next week. I'm the only one rocking out like a dork. Front row, Jonny's side, wearing a kimono-looking shirt. Melissa Melissa invades England... (read: London FAP, end of May)


Reminder that Radiohead [with Melissa in the audience] tonite on BBC 2

SERIES 21, FOURTH SHOW FRIDAY JUNE 6TH, 11.35PM BBC2

BBC Later
http://www.bbc.co.uk/later/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

that's coming up @ 11.35pm

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

DJ M - what am I doing later?

Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

OK Cozen, i guess/suggest:

1. watching Melissa/ Radiohead on the box,
2. then afterwards making love to your girlfiend, whilst listening to Associates albums and a.r.kane's i album?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I never asked.

Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

So DJ Martian lives with Cozen now?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I never asked.

Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I already did the making love thing; what am I doing now?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

turn on the box, soon ! and watch Melissa rock out to Radiohead !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

read the brand spanking new issue of:

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http://www.fakejazz.com/
Russian Lesbians and Post/ Avant Rock reviews.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

It's on, Martian; jesus - they're discussing HTTT round the table on Late Review or whatever it's called! This is so weird.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

tuned in NOW

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

dry serious critics discussing Radiohead in a dull sterile BBC studio

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

show starting

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

....zwan, pat metheny, topley bird and first up radiohead

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

dj martian is like our harry callas

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

who?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

How can he drum in a jacket?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

they ain't showing the real star, Melissa! it's just T. Yorke shaking his head about [camera focus]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned to thread ! it's his hero Billy Balding Corgan with ZWAN ! on NOW

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Zwan and Radiohead together? I am Filled With Happy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't get Billy Corgan and never have and probably never will. Ned's admiration is most puzzling.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

no, not playing together !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

that ex A Perfect Circle chick is HOT !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Who the fuck's Miranda Richardson?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Martina Topley-Bird gonna be any good, is the real question?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned's admiration is most puzzling.

It's cause they rock, see.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Miranda Richardson? snobby pretentious posh totty ! never seen her before

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a big Miranda Richardson fan! She's great! A top actress!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Martina Topley-Bird new single ain't much cop, aimless trip-hop

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Skidmore joins in the late fun! if she was single you would date her then?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

She is WAY out of my league! I've been a fan of hers for ages!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Martina Topley-Bird is on, sounding like a tricky b-side stuck in a mid 90s timewarp

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

They didn't rock just then.

Martina is nowhere near as beautiful as she was when she was wrapped round Tricky's noxious paranoid fuck-hop.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Miranda Richardson, she is way cool

H (Heruy), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

OTT on the eye/ face make UP

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"suck you in, fuck you in, tuck you in..."

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

fans of posh totty Q-ing up, get to the back and form an orderly Q.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Radiohead BACK ON

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr Yorke is closing his eyes and rolling his head

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

They're not gonna play Backdrifting or Where I End are they? Gits.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Now imagine him closing his head and rolling his eyes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

They're playing the David Gray / OK Computer fans appeasing set.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

They play Where I End and You Begin, they do.

(Miranda Richardson is a bitch in person.)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

guitarist copying the WHO

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

yo, Melissa dropping in.

Re: Miranda Richardson is a bitch in person

You chatted afterwards with her? Melissa

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Not so much chatted as watched her slobber over Thom. And then condescendingly treated me like I must be her biggest fan ever.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Old people singing about being young = dud?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

You mean *gasp* it's not live???!!!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

on now: Bob and Marcia? who? the women looks like that wise woman out of Star Trek the next generation.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

do Radiohead band members know/ recognise you Melissa?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

read up thread, Nick !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, they do.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Did they buy you burgers and crisps and milkshakes?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

No. That's my next mission. To get free food out of Radiohead.

Though I did get some free booze out of them.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

get, real Nick, Melisaa is stylish Anglophile not a stereotype big mac eating Yank!

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Radiohead BACK ON

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet more Brits proportionally (sic) eat burgers than Yanks.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

free booze better than free food
both would be ideal

H (Heruy), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Aye.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the camera work was useless, No audience features!

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Melissa, I bet you bought that NME Originals Radiohead special. Was this will put together/ better than expected?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

No, haven't seen it yet! I'm finding it hard to keep up with all the Radiohead stuff this month.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

it was on sale, this time last week ! I thought you would have snapped it up THERE and THEN!

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Eh, I'll make someone mail it to me or scan it eventually.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

NME Originals
http://www.nmeoriginals.com/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The eighth issue of NME Originals, devoted to the story of RADIOHEAD, is on sale in the UK now, priced just £4.99.

This is a 148-page magazine ! too much to scan surely !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Want to buy one and mail it to me?

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Radiohead - BACK ON - AGAIN

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Best tune on the album IMO.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

more weird keyboards than a 70s prog band

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 6 June 2003 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The camerabastards kept zooming in on everyone in Zwan except David Pajo, who you could barely see, dammit!

(Yeah, I watched the whole thing to be sad indie fanboy over Pajo and Sweeney and tune out the overwrought overguitared overflanged over-bloody-Corganed dirge they were plodding through. Mock me, I don't care. Much.)

Frazer, Friday, 6 June 2003 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Zwan were good!

Was Melissa standing on the right? Next to the keyboard playing guy?

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 7 June 2003 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, next to the, um, keyboard playing guy (his name is Jonny).

Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 7 June 2003 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i was very pissed and Thom's earpieces made him look like a spazz pixie.

why wasn't it just called the radiohead show - 4 songs, glad there wasn't anyone else good on it.

PAT METHENY - man, you fkn wasted it.

Geordie Racer (s.r.w.), Saturday, 7 June 2003 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah I saw melissa on the programme (unless its someone who's very similar looking). she was on the right from radiohead.

I only listened to the first radiohead song (watched the rest of later with the sound turned down), and listened to other stuff instead. its indie rock etc etc.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 June 2003 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

hehe, i think i worked out where/who Melissa was as well - coolness. Miranda Richardson came off very poorly there...shame she'll probably never top her role as Queen Liz 1 in Blackadder. Radiohead stood out among a pretty dull line-up (Pat Metheny? whatever, heh) and 'Go To Sleep' sounded the best of the new tracks i thought (have not heard the new album yet) tho i probably missed them do 'There There' early on i assume? Martine Toppley-Bird didnt sound too bad, pleasant enough new music but obviously lacking the edge of her earlier work with Tricky (thats having kids and growing older/mellower i figure). i get pretty sick of the limited remit of Joolz and long for a new decent live music show on TV that puts acts like Adult, WIT, Dizzee Rascal, Ladytron, Broadcast (who would actually work quite well on Later but i assume Warp mentality has natural aversion to the show) or LCD Soundsystem on TV i.e. acts who do actually play live and might be something nice to watch as well as hear but not in the predictable rock format. they really need to sort out 4Music and come up with something like that this year i think (but they won't)

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 7 June 2003 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

decent music on TV?! pfft!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 June 2003 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

decent music on TV, ha it was only yesterday i was ranting about that on my weblog, i think the people involved with music on tv, bbc, itv and c4 are dead from the neck up - when it comes to creativity, research, ideas and inspiration !

you would think it would not be too difficult to have a 90 minute diverse music show a week [on all 3 networks competing against each other], without waffle and wacky bullshit ala c4 or the dullness of most of the music on Later.

The Tube, Whistle Test in the 80s were far from perfect - but they were a lot better than the slop and shoddy rubbish music TV in the late 80s, 90s and this decade.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 7 June 2003 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I could swear Broadcast were on Later a couple years ago. (BBC America used to play old episodes.)

Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 7 June 2003 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i think they were but i can't remember properly.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 June 2003 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

really? hmmm, the BBC site had an archive list of who was on when but i never saw their name - good thing is if they were on i can get hold of a tape of it probably

and yeh the recent Whistle Test Years show was a bit of a revelation - putting bands like Gang Of Four and an early Adam Ant on for example, both sounded more unpredictable and vaguely exciting than whatever you see on...well there isn't even an equivalent today thats how bad it is

i think there should be a Later with Jools clone except minimal presenter and audience coverage (more like the last series of Jo Whiley basically) - keep the acts performing all in the same studio as thats always pretty cool. either combine this with elements of Jo Whiley whereby there are also artists in the studio talking bollocks/having interesting discussion...cut to features, interviews and new videos...try and focus on music that is not getting much attention elsewhere or at least not as much as it should i guess. funnily enough this sounds pretty close to the previous two formats of the Jo Whiley show which i really enjoyed watching despite the focus on loads of shite acts and irrelevant issues. a missed opportunity basically.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 7 June 2003 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and yeh Broadcast were on Later before - Series 15, Show 6 apparently (cheers Google)

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 7 June 2003 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

What did they play? There There, Go To Sleep, Where I End And You Begin and... ?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 June 2003 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

2+2=5

Did Later used to be better 6-8 eight years ago or was I just more easily impressed? Did it get less interesting just because Jools got older and the BBC became ever more obsessed with safeness, or did the White Room (which I thought was pretty good but I guess nobody else here did) force it to get blander so as not to overlap? Why did the White Room stop anyway, not enough viewers?

Frazer, Saturday, 7 June 2003 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Channel 4 and ITV have always seemed reluctant to stick with formats for their music shows - its amazing the Chart Show lasted as long as it did, especially what with not having an attractive presenter. i'll be amazed if you ever see a show like the old Chart Show again. but even shows like Videotech only seem to get a 2 year contract and thats it, likewise Jo Whiley's last show. regardless of whether the ratings for those shows matched projected figures (seemingly always over-estimated anyway) they should be given the chance to remain and build up an audience in the way that Later has over the last 12 years.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 7 June 2003 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

what's odd abt later is that i don't think it is "safe" especially in its choice of who's on, more that something about its format homogenises a fairly wide range of musics (the eclecticism enforces a kind of "best behaviour" i guess — viz the jazzfunk guys don't go over to the glam electronica guys and start a crabby argument abt aesthetic principles => for the duration of the programme all participants are saying "our aesthetic principles don't matter" => for the duration their music stops mattering and melts dully into itself)

music on television suffers greatly from the sense of it always being the "last medium to know"

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 7 June 2003 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

actually yeh Later's repertoire is not actually that bad, maybe its just the fact that you'd wish they wouldnt bother with David gray, Stereophonics etc. at all...i missed The Streets and Goldfrapp's appearances on there who are two i'd like to see but not much else really. its a shame Black Box Recorder haven't come on and it would be nice to see Broadcast on there again later in the year.

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 7 June 2003 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://home.clara.net/koogy/jools.jpg

i think melissa must be in this shot. black and white kimono? just to the right of the keyboards in this picture?

radiohead from 2001 was on immediately afterwards on bbc4 and they get a mention in a forthcoming totp2 episode for the 18th.

andy

koogs (koogs), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

there's also a Radiohead live show scheduled for broadcast on MTV soon, from the Sheps Bush Empire gig i think

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 7 June 2003 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

mtv show is tonight at 8, oh, about 23 minutes from now. is anyone videoing this?

they are also on radio 1's lamacq tomorrow from 8 (bst)

andy

koogs (koogs), Sunday, 8 June 2003 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

can't believe i was moaning about music shows on TV as 4 Music last night had The Streets, DJ Shadow and Lemon D & Dillinja all being interviewed and played clips of new videos by Future Kings Of Spain, Har Mar Superstar and Zoot Woman (all good tracks), and Radiohead seem to be on TV more than any other band lately - still, things could be better

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 8 June 2003 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

'later...' is not safe.

piscesboy, Monday, 9 June 2003 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

what's odd abt later is that i don't think it is "safe" especially in its choice of who's on, more that something about its format homogenises a fairly wide range of musics...for the duration of the programme all participants are saying "our aesthetic principles don't matter" => for the duration their music stops mattering and melts dully into itself)

I think what happens is it enforces Jools Holland's view of music as a craft and all musicians having that in common regardless of genre. So respect for musicianship, and music as a 'common language'. That's the central aesthetic/tenet and artists appearing choose (or are forced) to conceal any dislike they may have for other musics. Actually Holland's view is fairly common among musicians so it's pretty much voluntary I'd say. It's like when Pete Townshend's father (big band musician Cliff Townshend) took him to see Bill Haley & the Comets and remarked to his son 'hmm..not bad...'

David (David), Monday, 9 June 2003 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

like Geir the only electronica act Jools seems to really like is Orbital!

stevem (blueski), Monday, 9 June 2003 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

david, i'm sure it's voluntary: i totally believe — not least cz once long ago i interviewed him — that jools is charming amusing company w.no attitude or agenda, basically a good person: what interests me is that this seemingly positive attitude (what's so bad about a musician having respect for makers of a music he himself wouldn't choose to make?) contributes to the gummy worthiness of this programme, making it seem more homogenous in fact than it would on paper

mark s (mark s), Monday, 9 June 2003 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

>can't believe i was moaning about music shows on TV as 4 Music
>last night had The Streets, DJ Shadow and Lemon D & Dillinja all
>being interviewed

the key phrase here is 'all being interviewed'. was disappointed by the lack of music by the above-mentioned although the talk of the valve sound system was interesting. maybe if these things were 30 minutes long rather than just 10...

andy

koogs (koogs), Monday, 9 June 2003 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The White Room still stands miles above any other music show on telly, even though the only thing i can remember of it is iggy pop and his trousers.

Another good show a while back (just for the bands they covered) was that Barfly thing on Channel 4. Actually what's happened to 4 music now? there doesn't seem to be anything decent on wednesday nights.

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 9 June 2003 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link


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