The Matrix Reloaded (full spoilers)

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
You've been warned. This is where we talk about the movie in detail.

Eventually, anyway. Right now, I'm just wondering why they all wear sunglasses ALL THE FUCKING TIME. The one in-the-matrix scene where Keanu loses them, it's sunny outside. I laughed. Everyone wondered what I was laughing at.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link

And it's goodbye from me. The lure of this thread would be too much, so I reckon I'll just quit the internet for the next 8 days. Simpler that way :)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 16 May 2003 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

My quick encapsulated review:

Action scenes = great. Freeway = un-fucking believable. Zion = a little too "lower decks of the Titanic" for my tastes. Morpheus = windbag. Dialogue = why did they write all everyone else's lines for Keanu as well?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Good fight scene, lame philosophy lecture. Good fight scene, lame philosophy lecture. Et cetera. Still I thought the ideas hung together with the "plot" a little better than the Baudrillard crap in the first one.

My girlfriend points out that "Milli Vanilla" were k-lame and I'll add that Fishburne sucks.

adam (adam), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Worse than the first movie, but not by much (meaning that most of the old complaints of the first flick apply here and I didn't have too many new ones). BUT Overuse of CGI resulted in a couple of very ugly almost videogame-ish sequences (both of which--the entire multi-Smith fight and once during the car chase--were mercifully brief--the Smiths were much better when they were just cracking jokes rather than fighting). I don't remember feeling like I was EVER watching Vice City during the first flick. Some glaring and I MEAN GLARING plot inconsistencies concerning "The One's" powers, but eh whatever. The love story was consistent with the kind of epic movie this is aspiring to be and I didn't find it too intrusive. The standard cyberpunk tropes ARE all on full display here (old world spirituality vs. modern technology, fetishism of the other confusingly undercut by white messiah figure, cardboard masculinized female characters, etc) and if these things bother you well generally (like while READING Neuromancer haha) then they will bother you here too.

Overall I thought it was pretty well paced for being such a long film. It was definitely watchable, but if you have no interest in metaphysics/cyberpunk/science fiction than I can definitely see the film being a long road to get through.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The Smith sequence was pretty seamless until there were fifty of them. Then the effects got out of hand. And to have that scene end with Neo flying away? Why the fuck didn't he fly away to begin with?

Some glaring and I MEAN GLARING plot inconsistencies concerning "The One's" powers

Seeing as how after the first two speeches, I deliberately stopped paying attention to anything but pure visual spectacle, I'm not sure what you mean. Explain.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Um he can stop bullets and fly and do all sorts of other crazy shit so WHY is he even bothering hand to hand fighting these dudes at all (technically this applies to all Neo fight scenes, but I was annoyed by how silly the CGI looked)?!?!

I thought the Smith scene got silly pretty quickly, but whenever I know there will be CGI effects or obvious stunt doubles I always look for them and believe me they were there early on too.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link

No, I saw that. I thought it was done pretty well. I spent the first two minutes of that scene admiring how carefully that had disguised the stunt doubles.

And I see... your problem with Neo is the same as mine. Maybe he just likes to kick ass. But the fight scenes, and indeed every moment of dramatic tension, was spoiled by the fact that we know the third movie has the same core cast. Kill Molly? I mean... whassername? Trinity? What a joke.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

And this bugged the shit out me: They named a character Persephone, made her a kept woman, and then had her betray her cheating husband. Isn't that a little obvious?

The lesson here: never name your child Persephone. The same fate will befall her. It's a chicken-egg problem.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link

But Alex, there's _always_ going to be CGI effects or obvious
stunt doubles - there's only 1 Hugo Weaving. Are you forbidding
the film makers from inventing impossible visuals cause
"ah, that's gotta be fake" ? Talk about a spoilsport.
For the record, I haven't seen the film yet but just the IDEA
of 50 Mr. Smiths is laughably dumb.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link

It's really quite funny. There's this great shot with the looks on all their faces after he flies off. Classic.

Has anyone seen the Hulk preview? Now THERE'S some shitty-looking CGI.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey I said it LOOKS good when they aren't fighting! It's just IF you can't make it look good when they are fighting then the ANSWER is don't do it (or it least don't do it in a way that exposes the glaring inability of CGI to look real)! There is no thrill in watching an obviously computer generated fight each other in a "live" action film for me. It just looks cheap.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

And Keanu looks just as janky and computer generated as Smith during that fight scene btw

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

In a couple fast CGI shots, his face is enlongated so that he looks not unlike James Van Der Beek.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I really like Harry's review, actually. For the first time ever, maybe.

http://linux10985.dn.net/display.cgi?id=15192

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link

“I know you're out there. I can feel you now.
I know that you're afraid... afraid of us.
You're afraid of change. I don't know the future.
I didn't come here to tell you how this
is going to end. I came here to tell how
it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this
phone, and then show these people what
you don't want them to see. I'm going to show
them a world without you. A world without
rules or controls, borders or boundaries.
A world where anything is possible. Where
we go from there is a choice I leave to you.”


So much promise, so little follow up.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I figured Neo was just playing with the Smiths really. I never thought at any time during that fight that he had a chance of losing.
Actually, I think the Wackowski (sp?) Brothers realized this too, which is why Neo is completely left out of the freeway scene (best scene in the movie by far).

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

THANK YOU KENAN re: the hulk. I don't want to talk about this with any of my friends, but I am repulsed by the sheer SHITTINESS of the hulk. Good God. I am not going to be able to watch that movie, you know they are going to get the gravity and physics, horribly wrong, the size inconsistent, etc.. Spiderman, now theres some bad graphics. Sorry. Hate those horrible graphics.

tyler (tyler), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:58 (sixteen years ago) link

The limpidness of the majority of the expository scenes is obvious, though I have to say that the conversation with the Architext was awesome, not for any of the content but rather the texture of it -- Archie's delivery, rapid-fire and smug, was a sheer aesthetic pleasure (Ebert is very OTM).

Leee (Leee), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

And a question: why is the "real" world ending? I get that if Canoe Reeves had taken the other door, he'd have gotten the chance to repopulate humanity from scratch, but he chose the other door and what happened? Some sort monkeywrench thrown into predetermined path mumbojumbo?

Leee (Leee), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

1. This movie takes itself WAY too seriously.
2. Is it me or is the story progressively less engaging as it wears on?
3. Did you also think that Morpheus' speech in Zion was a direct lift (or homage) to Cyrus' speech in The Warriors?
4. Every one of those fight scenes felt extremely perfunctory to me.
5. What's up with all of the important/esoteric characters being minorities? (I'm referring explicitly to the Oracle & the Keymaker.)
6. Just out of curiousity, did you catch the trailer for the Matrix Reloaded after the end of the credits?
6A. Is Hugo Weaving the best thing about this series?


P.S. Good god, yes, the Hulk movie looks to stink worse than a bag of rancid assholes.

JS Williams (js williams), Saturday, 17 May 2003 06:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Hugo Weaving the best thing about this series?

The true tragic but flawed hero.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 May 2003 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Uh, yes, that is, "Did you catch the trailer for The Matrix Revolutions after the credits?"

JS Williams (js williams), Saturday, 17 May 2003 06:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess i'm the only one who wanted the fight scenes to get out of the way of the gnostically-charged dialogue.

The Wachowskis did the one thing that they needed to do to keep me from being disappointed. The rest of it was gravy (that could have stood some editing; 'specially the rave with the really boring backing music.)

Was a tad disappointed that they turned Morpheus into an unthinking zealot, though. Had hoped for better in that respect.

And they had Neo fighting 'cause it probably would've been boring to have him talking. That said, i'd liked to have seen more crazy anti-fighting instead of the chop socky action. I'd like to have seen him turn all the bullets into flowers or butterflies or otherwise indicate that fighting him conventionally was useless.

The Superman-esque action scenes, however, were pretty ace.

Not as good as the first, but name a sequel that is.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 17 May 2003 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

5. What's up with all of the important/esoteric characters being minorities?

I don't think when there's that many minorities in a movie you can cry tokenism. I don't think I've even seen so many minorities, particularly blacks, in a big Hollywood movie before. It's encouraging.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

even=ever

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

If Morpheus yelled out "can you dig it?" during that speech, that would've ruled so hard.

What really disappointed me was the TOTAL LACK of contemporary super-hep technoid thump traxx to accompany all the kungfulistics. That courtyard dogpile poleaxing scene would've been much helped if it were set to Daft Punk's "Aerodynamic" or something.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

My girlfriend took me to see this last night. I never even saw the first movie. As long as I treated it as something like a comic book made into a movie, I enjoyed it. Some of the dialogue was just preposterous, but I was able to roll with it. Nevertheless, I found my mind going off on philosophical tangents sometimes, which is a pleasant state to be in.

I'm sorry I have nothing more interesting to say at the moment.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Nate is right on. I'm not the biggest techno/idm/whatever fan on the face of the planet, but the music struck me as really weak overall, whereas it fit better in the first one (not that i ran out and bought the sountrack or anything.)

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

matrix reloaded, 10 minutes of diverting violence, 6 minutes of cecille b demille pagan orgy, 150 minutes of dialouge trying to prove that its more the anime/chop socky/american comics- the matrix is stupid, boring, shitfest and i was shocked that people bought it, laughed at the right times, displayed awe or shock or something inbetween.

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

my gf and i were both laughing at the multiple smith fight scene.
was it intended parody?
overall it was what i expected. a sequel.

kephm, Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw this last night and I was horrified at how awful it was, how cheesy it seemed, and how much it took itself so seriously. The fight scenes were fun to watch, but everything else was stupider and stupider and the stupidest. I was surprised to hear the conversations of those leaving the theatre and how most everyone present hated it. I thought the first one was 100 times better, and that isn't saying much. Xmen2 was like, SO MUCH SO MUCH better and I suddenly appreciate its brilliance now that I've seen this hunk of rubbish known as The Matrix Reloaded. Oh and that rave scene was like a J. Lo video and I had to hide my eyes because I was afraid I'd start laughing.

Mandee, Saturday, 17 May 2003 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Rave Scene=Britney Spears "I'm a slave 4 U" video.

Mandee, Saturday, 17 May 2003 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

The rave scene was totally Cecille B.Demille, as Anthony said.

I didn't think the movie took its serious content seriously, but maybe that's just because I assumed it couldn't possibly.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 17 May 2003 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

why does everyone think it is so ridiculous to take the philosophy stuff seriously? there is nothing particularly silly about it. or is it just the tone?

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I am starting to think that my actually liking this movie was not the best decision

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

1) Paganisim is overrated. Most of the time you look like an asshole while you're out baying at the moon.

2) There are multiple times where the human manefestations of the computer bits (Architect, Oracle, etc) all say to Keanu something along the lines of, 'I can see what you're thinking!' or 'Your expression tells me you're confused!'. This is so the audience can tell what Keanu should be doing as an actor.

3) Monica Bellucci is hella-hot. Rubber is a good look for her.

4) About halfway through the Architects speech someone in the audience yelled "Fast forward!!!". He was right to do it.

jm (jtm), Sunday, 18 May 2003 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link

The soundtrack was pretty dud, but nowhere near as bad as Spiderman.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 18 May 2003 07:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Belluci has looked hotter. (see: Irreversible and Tears of the Sun)

Leee (Leee), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh shit... I didn't even recognize her from Tears of the Sun. Mostly because she was hot in that, and not hot in the Matrix. I thought she looked really tired - which her character was.

Maybe Neo can stop bullets beacuse they're ruled by computer-generated physics, but he can't freeze someone in their tracks beacuse they're capable of the same mind-over-matter hooha that he is, just not on his level. That would explain why he has to sword-fight 8 people manual. I mean if you want to start rationalizing... That's like all these negative reviews calling the fight scenes gratuitous and using arguments that result in their jobs as film critics just as unnecessary.

I didn't like the rave scene much either... like what's with these Stomp drums? They have Hoverships and Mechwarriors but when it's time to rock the house they're unplugged all of a sudden. I agree that the soundtrack as a whole was weaker than the first... and DAVE MATTHEWS?! WHAT?!

Stuart (Stuart), Sunday, 18 May 2003 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I need an editor.

Stuart (Stuart), Sunday, 18 May 2003 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I agree that there's no reason not to take the philosophy stuff seriously. Actually, I think the architect conversation was my favorite part of the movie. They really did a good job of showing you why exactly the machines needed their reiterating Zions and Ones (haha Zeros and Ones). I think they might have been well-served by a genetic analogy as well as all that Godel (like, if the machines don't periodically have Ones being made who exercise their choice and eventually go back into the Source they'll get stagnant and "inbred"), but they might have consciously left that. If you combine what the guy says in that scene with the fact that the plot arc here is basically suspended halfway (unlike the first one where it was more of a self-contained package with an option for sequel), it leaves room for the resolution of what people tend to be perceiving as flaws and plot-holes (like that they just sort've off-handedly drop the "oh yeah and Zion is all dead and stuff" thing in at the end).

PS: Thank you, Matrix people for not making Donald Sutherland the Architect. I can tell you wanted to, but it's just better the way it is.

Dan I., Monday, 19 May 2003 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i liked the orgy, there is no reason to assume that religion would be anyless primal.

also keanu is fucking hot.

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 19 May 2003 00:34 (sixteen years ago) link

who knew Keanu would find a vehicle that would make him seem so completely indispensable... and I think My Two Dads has had more compelling cliffhanger endings.

Aaron A., Monday, 19 May 2003 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, My Two Dads had the Evigan. Not many films can boast that.

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 19 May 2003 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

This is good too (I bet you'll like it anthony): http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/051803matrix.htm

although, because it came from FARK I'm sure most of you have already read it. eh.

Dan I., Monday, 19 May 2003 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuck, ILX ate my first entry. And now Nicole has beaten me to be the second chix0r on this thread. (what's up with that?)

I liked it quite a bit. I could pick on the music and the speeches and the acting style in general, but I was happy more than not. Maybe I wanted to like it and that's why I did. I was certainly a bit nervous about seeing it since I'd heard other people's disappointed reviews. I'm not a sophisticated moviegoer, and I guess if you asked me what the point of the movie was, I couldn't tell you. I expected it to be a bridge to the next movie and I think it did a good job of that.

And maybe I'm alone in this, but I think those geek Wachowski boys got the sex stuff just right. I was shocked. I thought the sex scene was really hot, and the rest of the love story very natural and believable. I totally wanted to be Trinity and Neo at the same time, and that's a great feeling.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 19 May 2003 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

That coroporatemofo article is nice and chewy.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 19 May 2003 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Hi everyone! Did a movie come out this weekend?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 May 2003 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link

It was SO good.
I went in hoping for a sequel slightly worse than it's
predecessor, and half expecting a disaster. How wrong
I was! I thought the scene with 100s of Mr. Smith looked
lame. How wrong I was! The movie wasn't flawless, but
as far as Sci-Fi cinema goes, it was truly fantastic.
The exposition in the first half of the movie was slightly
ponderous, but all is forgiven for the effects and the
action scenes - gorgeous sculptures of light of sound.
The dialogue in the original Matrix was too terse and
stiff for my taste (though no worse than any action movie);
the dialogue here was overblown in the extreme - but a
good antidote to the interchangable monosyllables we've
come to expect from these box office killers.

A+!!!!

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 19 May 2003 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I've seen it ten times now (literally--we're showing it at the theatre I project at--and I'll be seeing it 12 times a week through August) and I like it a lot more now than when I first saw it (though I am surely sick of it).

The talky bits wear really thin, especially the Councillor Haman and Merovingian scenes and the scene with Penelope in the bathroom is drawn out. However the shot where she turns and gestures toward the Keymaker's cell is like the hottest thing ever filmed. I have decided Neo is a program and something is fishy with the Council but I am perhaps Matrixed out.

ps the freeway scene is way too long.

And the credits are ELEVEN MINUTES LONG. ELEVEN. That's REALLY LONG.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

You're a projectionist?

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't seen this yet but me and trife will be first in line when it his the Athens dollar theater

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I am an IMAX projectionist. Like a regular one except bigger.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

i sat thru those 11 minutes of credits to catch the trailer for Revolutions...its just about worth it, even tho it means you have to listen to Rage and P.O.D. beforehand, muahaha

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I am an IMAX projectionist. Like a regular one except bigger.

That is awesome. May I email you and ask a bunch of questions?

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

You certainly may. I will do my best to answer them--send it to my good email: aparker5@tulane.edu.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Persephone, not "Penelope".

N. Ron, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry. Drunk.

adam (adam), Thursday, 12 June 2003 12:40 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...
This would have been so much better without the pointless CGI kung fu scenes.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 19 October 2003 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

The only CGI-fu is the Neo vs many Smiths brawl in the city park, right? An interesting exercise- the CGI is so close to being totally believable but still spottable. I thought the (famous) shot of Neo spiking the pole and accelerating around it was exactly what the whole CGI bizness was for, and wanted more like that.

rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 19 October 2003 05:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no problem with CGI- in fact, can't wait to see human mechs vs squid-machines in part three- but what I loved about Matrix 1 was the "authenticity," the fact that like good HK kung-fu we were really seeing the actual actor person whipping out some astonishing (wire-aided) moves. Once you realize the entire person is fake, it sort of takes that aspect away. There are different pleasures to full CGI characters instead, I suppose.

rob geary (rgeary), Sunday, 19 October 2003 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...
saw a good chunk of it last night on cable. favorite line is when keanu decides to kiss the french guy's babe.

"Wait. OK."

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

738 takes that took

stevem (blueski), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

It took me an extraordinarily long time to figure out what the hell that sentence was supposed to mean, stevem

TOMBOT, Friday, 7 May 2004 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

It's an Underworld song title if you look at it right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Just an observation - did anyone else notice that you can totally see through Persephone's dress at the right times in the movie? And that she's not wearing anything else? Like, I can tell exactly what pattern she shaves. I could've sworn I mentioned this before on a Reloaded thread, but I can't seem to find it, so just thought I'd share now.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

*FURIOUSLY RENTS RELOADED*

Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw this movie 200 times on a 5.5-story IMAX screen and noticed nothing. GS you are simply toying with us.

adam (adam), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, it was really noticable on the big screen (though, admittedly, my girlfriend was the first one to notice). I watched the DVD, expecting either for them to have edited it out (re Mulholland Drive) or that the quality wouldn't have been enough to see it. But sure enough, it's still there in full glory.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

(xpost) Hold on, lemme see if I can give you some exact timecode for the DVD...

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

SCREEN CAPS HOMEZ

Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

1:13:14 (give or take a few seconds)
1:13:41 ( " " " " " " )
1:14:21 ( " " " " " " )
1:14:24 ( " " " " " " )
1:14:30 ( " " " " " " )
1:14:38 ( " " " " " " )
1:14:43 ( " " " " " " )
1:15:07 ( " " " " " " )
1:15:13 ( " " " " " " )

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Basically, from after the kiss scene to when the chateau fight begins, just keep your eyes on her crotch with a decent sized screen. Shouldn't be that hard to spot if you're looking for it.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.savonarolamustburn.com/picture1.jpg

I've also noticed that timecode can vary between different DVD players, so be wary of that. But yeah, this screencap is among the better ones I could get.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Obviously, such an overt and gratuitous display of the pudendum foreshadows Larry Wachowski's immanent transgender impulses.

Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Do I name the ILXer who thought that the woman was shitting herself (instead of having an orgasm) in the restaurant scene with the French guy?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought she was having a piece of cake.

Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

And then shitting herself.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Does the DVD have any additional Twins stuff? I liked them best of anything in the series. DEEPLY disappointed they didn't appear in the 3rd.

Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Obviously, such an overt and gratuitous display of the pudendum foreshadows Larry Wachowski's immanent transgender impulses.

Or at the very least, a need to dress people in leather or rubber. And nothing else.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw this movie 200 times on a 5.5-story IMAX screen and noticed nothing. GS you are simply toying with us.

And just think, you could've saved us an IMAX frame from these scenes! I still can't believe you missed this - that's just hilarious.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 28 May 2004 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Har. I do have some somewhat-mangled footage from Space Station 3D and Apollo 13 lying around somewhere. I'll ask my old coworkers who were ushers when we showed Reloaded if they've seen this. The screencap above is kind of... crotchy I suppose.

adam (adam), Friday, 28 May 2004 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

A shameless bump.

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 29 May 2004 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

whoa, the hitler cut? how gauche.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 29 May 2004 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

I still dunno how ppl hate on this film when it contains the most intense fight/chase/fight sequence ever created. even when you know everything that happens, it still gives the clench. <3 <3 truck kombat.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 4 October 2008 06:54 (eleven years ago) link

seven years pass...

i rewatched this after seeing it only once 10 or 12 years ago and it is not very good

marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:23 (three years ago) link

trying to read about the plot and the purpose of neo in these sequential matrix iterations is hurting my brain

marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:25 (three years ago) link

the first one has a similar amount of corny bits but it is ultimately a very thrilling and enjoyable movie

marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:25 (three years ago) link

i never got round to watching the sequels but I caught a bit of the first one on tv the other day and it's in that awkward spot of being old and of its time enough to be egregiously dated but not quite old enough to induce fond nostalgia (caught a bit of austin powers: the spy who shagged me yesterday and it's in that same space in my brain). still a pretty fun film though.

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 March 2016 17:35 (three years ago) link

i remember seeing this at a midnight show the night before it opened and it was pretty amazing how the thrills of the first film were completely absent here. i watched the car chase again recently and it was boring. i can't even watch the original matrix now tbh because the ending shot of superman neo just reminds me that his continuing adventures are going to be complete garbage.

nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:36 (three years ago) link

but you get to rock out to ratm while you ponder the disappointments to come

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 March 2016 17:37 (three years ago) link

the first film had a decent amount of humor and keanu was fully charming and the action scenes were scaled to a size that made them palpable and human level as opposed to video game-like.

nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:39 (three years ago) link

neo and his pals certainly "raged" against a "machine" in this series you might say

nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:40 (three years ago) link

i'm planning on rewatching the third film soon, i remember absolutely nothing about it except for like neo riding around a spaceship and seeing green code everywhere

marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:41 (three years ago) link

the action scenes also seemed purposeful in the first movie

marcos, Friday, 18 March 2016 17:42 (three years ago) link

xp that's pretty much all there is too it tbh

ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:05 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

I still dunno how ppl hate on this film when it contains the most intense fight/chase/fight sequence ever created. even when you know everything that happens, it still gives the clench. <3 <3 truck kombat.

― El Tomboto, Friday, October 3, 2008 11:54 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

truly otm, love and miss u tombot

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 18:07 (seven months ago) link

seven months pass...

good movie

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 7 November 2019 00:39 (six days ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.