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Who keeps a journal or diary?
How often do you write in it?
What do you write in it?
Would it be sutable for other people to read?
Would it make sense if other people read it?
Is it mostly is truth, or fiction?

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

I have both a livejournal and a blogger section of my web page, and I don't know if either particularly counts: I could use livejournal to make readable-only-by-me posts, but don't.

I used to keep a writing journal which I typed in intermittently, as a place for brainstorming story ideas and so forth, so that all my shit would be in one place, but it degenerated into constant haranguing at myself for writing about writing instead of actually writing.

So to answer the last question, it's truth about fiction, by and large.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 03:08 (twenty years ago) link

I keep a really sloppy half drawn, with half formed ideas, and totally unorganized notebook (i've gone through a few). I use it to relieve some thoughts and return back to when I have more time to think about them. A lot of it is kind of half fiction where I write not what I actually think, but what would be interesting to think, or not what I actually do, but what is interesting to do. I don't like to try and keep it "safe" for others to read. That limits how crazy, ridiculous, or self-incriminating I can be. Therefore it wouldn't be real good if someone read it trying to see how I think, because it wouldn't help anyone to understand me at all, it would give a wrong impression.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't be able to do the internet one, because I do way to many drawings.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 03:17 (twenty years ago) link

I analyze stuff too much in my head already. And the only time diary-type stuff that I'd want to right down hits me is right when I'm about to fall asleep.

For some reason, I always thought diaries and journals were a bit pretentious - like "Oh, my thoughts are so great they need to go down on paper." I still don't really get it, but these days I'm not a sanctimonious prick about what other people do.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 03:47 (twenty years ago) link

I wish I could port the cool streams-of-conciousness I get in my head on my morning walk/tram ride direct to a notebook or file... but instead I carry a notebook and pen everywhere, and write stuff when I feel inclined. Like Tep, I spend more time berating myself for not writing, or only writing about how poo I feel, than I do actually writing "stuff"!

I've kept paper diaries for years. Good catharsis, it is. It gets depressing when you read old entries and find you go over the same shit all the time tho...

And then theres Livejournal which is sucking all the creative marrow out of anything I do... (thats my excuse, I'm sticking to it!).

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 04:49 (twenty years ago) link

This is deja fait. I don't keep a journal anymore. The ones from my youth I threw away.

nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 08:02 (twenty years ago) link

I R banned from blogger AND livejournal! Why is ILE still here - I ponder this everyday.

I have of course stopped writing properly due to work hell but still have a paper diary I write in when I'm not absolutely knackered. Recent topics have included me beating myself up about not being a good friend, me beating myself up about beating myself up too much, me beating myself up for whining and whining about not having a GBA SP/Dreamcast/PS2/more energy ect ect. It is very mas0ch1stic. It is good for me in that when I read over what I've written I can see how ridiculous I'm being, but bad for me because it reinforces my negative ways of thinking. It's recently alerted me to being a really harsh and cynical person in the face of other peoples issues - I am jealous that they get attention for showing that they're broken and cut myself off so they won't affect me which quite frankly - is cnutish.

Haha ILE is my new journal!!

"Dear ILE yesterday I had some EG on BRED it was num".

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 08:48 (twenty years ago) link

i'm on livejournal but i'm totally fucking sick of it. i can't believe the nonsense and politics that go on half the time. i don't even have anything to say most of the time..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 09:17 (twenty years ago) link

The politics are pretty opt-out-able, aren't they? I keep mine friends-only, don't really do much with communities, and so on. I guess it depends on what you use it for and who's reading, though.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

i have a couple of online diaries. i mostly talk about what its like to be me. its very self-involved, and while its not locked or private, i don't exactly advertise it either. i guess i write for my friends to read it. its certainly not meant to impress people. i update one of them regualrly ( a few times week), and the other one is pretty much defunct now.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 09:44 (twenty years ago) link

Livejournal politics are hilarious! I love turning up to a club and being in on every little nuance because people obsessively update their LJ whenever the tiniest thing happens. Hahaha. Herpes boy. The LJ problem is when you meet someone, add them to your friends list and then realise that IF YOU READ ANY MORE OF THEIR RUBBISH YOU WILL VOMIT OUT YOUR BRANE. And if you remove them you get 70 comments ranging from the inane to the well... inane. Grebt fun to read!

"Dear ILE whilst I was playing myself at Scrabble the other day I did two bingos VIZ! "WINGERs" and "SUICIDEs". ROCK!

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 09:54 (twenty years ago) link

Politics? In a journal you write yourself? Seems kinda... I don't know. Maybe if my blog was read by more than a couple of dozen friends and acquaintances I'd worry too, especially if they started making comments like "you sux0r".

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

I've tried in the past to keep a diary, I managed a whole year in 1994, it's the most depressing read ever. But now it's good to laugh at.

I tried to keep one this year, just so I could remember stuff like where I went and what CD's I bought, the last entry is 19th January. Oh dear.

Here is the sort of thing I write:
"Oh no! I forgot to write for the last two days. They weren't very interesting days, so nevermind"

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

http://ljdrama.org/

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

I've got a blog. I've also got a proper paper diary, but I don't write in it very often. I'm always conscious, though, of being careful what I write in the blog because of who is going to read it, or just because of revealing private information in a public medium. With the diary I don't have to worry about that.

caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

"Oh no! I forgot to write for the last two days. They weren't very interesting days, so nevermind"

I don't try to write daily I just use it to write down anything I find interesting. Maybe mine is more of notes on things I do or think instead of an actual account of what I did.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

I've got notebooks dating back ten years. I like pen-and-paper since it allows me to be more free-associative than I am on computer. (Also, more "connected" to what I'm writing, somehow.) So, those ten years have been pretty sporadic (hardly any in college), but within the last year, I've been writing about once a week, usually for a few pages. Sometimes I just sit down and write and see what comes out. Other times, I've got an idea I want to try to figure out. Most of the time, massive amounts of coffee are involved.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

Politics? In a journal you write yourself? Seems kinda... I don't know. Maybe if my blog was read by more than a couple of dozen friends and acquaintances I'd worry too, especially if they started making comments like "you sux0r".

LiveJournal's different. I don't know if you're familiar with it, but the set-up encourages drama incidentally; seventy-something people read mine, and I only knew a third of them before they started reading. Politics come up easily in that sort of atmosphere, it's more like a message board.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I used to have a livejournal, but a friend offered to host my blog on his server with Movable Type, which seemed preferable. I guess it would be an issue, though one you could ignore if you choose (and, admittedly, are more thick-skinned than me).

I hadn't realised it was such a problem, though. It must get in the way of how you really want to express your views, but then as soon as one chooses to make anything public, a kind of inverse Heisenberg's uncertainy principle comes into effect, viz as soon as you know there's an audience, it'll inevitably change what you write. It's something I'm no closer to finding a cure for.

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

I find I'm explaining myself more often. I'll mention my drunk uncle Charlie, the one who accidentally married the Brooklyn Bridge during an incident involving tequila and obscure municipal codes, and have to explain "yeah, this is the Uncle Charlie who was nuts for tequila and girders," which gives way to some other unrelated anecdote about the time he got his dick caught in a girder while interning for a construction company, and all the guys called him "Rivet-Dick" until he quit.

I'm making that example up, unfortunately.

But yeah, you can avoid the politics, in my experience. Might be tougher if you have friends who participate in them and you don't want to alienate/exclude them, I don't know.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I'm just starting a new diary. I decorated it on the inside. The small, compact leather bound notebook only cost me $3.75! I'm starting it on Monday!
I think taking it with you everywhere is ok, but you have to have it write inside your pocket. For example, if someone took your bag, well.. your secrets will be out!
I hope all the best for others starting a diary!

EJ Ehsi, Sunday, 9 May 2004 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Mine has just fallen apart. I need to tape or glue the pages back together. Next time I should get a more sturdy one to write in.

A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 9 May 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to keep a writing journal which I typed in intermittently, as a place for brainstorming story ideas and so forth, so that all my shit would be in one place, but it degenerated into constant haranguing at myself for writing about writing instead of actually writing.

I can sing a few bars of that. My journal starts with a comment about forcing myself to write 500 words every day, followed by two ~3,000 chunks of short story, then nothing. I haven't touched it in months.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 9 May 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

That ljdrama site is insane! I mean, I suspected there were lots of stupid people with blogs, but mon dieu...

Prude (Prude), Monday, 10 May 2004 01:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the Livejournal statistics make that a little less shocking, but yeah, any time I look at ljdrama there's something that surprises me.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 10 May 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, ljdrama = great entertainment, props to teeny fer posting the url

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 10 May 2004 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link


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