UK Digibox: Classic or Dud

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Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

What an excellent gadget, Mooro!

I did plug it into my telly. It was easy. My pictures come from Crystal Palace!

Last night I watched Winged Migration. Without even pressing the red button I got extra commentary from my mother-in-law.

I think it is true though, that you get what you pay for. Our remote control is unpleasant and feels as if it has come from a pound shop, and the menu screens could be nicer.

It is Digilogic. Remember the name!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I also watched Dr Who.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I have been thinking about getting one of these!

It is confusing, as I am unsure whether my reception is good enough for it anyway. I had imagined that digital TV was a panacea.

Here is another question: is it better to have a DVD / VHS in one box, or as two separate items? More wires the second way.

the snowfox, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

shop assistants are v v unhelpful re 'will i be able to pick up digital'. they guide you to buy a 'signal booster'. there's just no way of knowing for sure, but you'll probably be alright.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, all-in-one is less wires, but as any dad will tell you, there's more to go wrong.

Our "normal" reception is pretty bad (multi-Hansen effect), but the digibox works a treat (one Hansen, but speaking with greater clarity of vision and purpose than ever).

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

the best thing to do is to buy it from a supermarket - they tend to be cheaper than elsewhere and also will return things v. easily if you are not satisfied for any reason.

as for the DVD Video query, i'm of the opinion that it's almost always better to seperate items. if one bit get's buggered at least you're not losing 2 pieces of technology you need. also they are a bit gimmicky and tend to be impossible to fix.

xp

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Here is another question: is it better to have a DVD / VHS in one box, or as two separate items? More wires the second way.

I've had an LG combined VHS/DVD thingy for 18 months, and I love it - and although it isn't mentioned in the instruction book, it lets you record from dvd to vhs if you want!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Our "normal" reception is pretty bad (multi-Hansen effect), but the digibox works a treat (one Hansen, but speaking with greater clarity of vision and purpose than ever).

With analogue ghosting, you might have won 8-0.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

the slushfox:

"YES!

FREEVIEW covers your area for the postcode **** ***.

You should be able to use your existing rooftop aerial and wiring provided they are in good condition but you may need to get them checked to ensure good quality digital reception.

Your local electrical retailer should be able to arrange an aerial survey and aerial upgrade if you need one and advise you of any related charges."

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

these are 40 quid in sainsburys now. (also 40 quid (and upwards) in dixons if you can get anyone to serve you). am thinking of getting a new one so i can a: watch bbc4 (ok, bbc3) in the bedroom and b: fit the dvd player under the tv rather than on top of it (the ex-itv-digital box i currently use is too tall to fit both that and the dvd player under my tv)

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey Mooro,, is Pam's gadget a good one? I'm in the market for a USB digitaltv box type thing (especially ahead of the World Cup so I can record games that are on while I'm at work)

I've been looking at some of the Hauppage ones but the write-ups on them are very varied.

Porkpie (porkpie), Sunday, 1 January 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouls get a 9200T or a 8000T alot less hassle than recording using your laptop ad the 9200T has a USB port for attaching to your computer.


Good info here:

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=119

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 1 January 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Porkpie (hope you're OK btw, Sally & I have eaten massive you twice over the holiday period plus your gala brother), Pam's gadget is good. I can't really speak for the little aerial that comes with it as we don't live in a proper freeview post code & reception is not good enough for it, but when plugged into the main house aerial its fine. The picture on James' VAIO is superb & he can record & watch it all on the PC.

Mooro (Mooro), Monday, 2 January 2006 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I might still get one!

the bellefox, Monday, 2 January 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Freeview laptop - Does it have a red button, or is ti the Alt+Shift+9 or something?

Yesterday I pressed the red button hoping for all the goalmouth action, but all I got was a load of souped-up Ceefax reports.

PF, go on, take the plunge.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Red button: very good around FA Cup weekend cos you get all the goals from all the ties running on a loop in alphabetical order.

I am intrigued to see which way you go on Saturday afternoons, PJM - to BBCi's Score Interactive with Stubbsy or Sky Sports News with Stelling(sy). Or out, to the shops.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a tough choice. I feel like a Roman emporer, having people watch stuff for me. It's very exciting when someone nearly scores while the cameras are on their watcher. Thing is, I have to be up really close to see the scores on the real time videprinter. I think I prefer Stubbsy, but one can tire of their colour scheme.

Incidentally, I think they must have those laptop gadgets. Or is that just my imagination getting the better of me?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Surely the presence of Crooksy must make the difference, unless Clive Allen also enters the equation somehow?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, Stelling wins every time. I don't know why, except that he is a God amongst pundits, and also you get to laugh at Chris Kamara freezing his arse off in the rafters of a stadium somewhere wondering if he'll ever get to join Le Tiss, Marsh etc in the studio.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

How much electricity does a digibox use?

I ask because I am having difficulty training my family to switch it off when they switch the telly off and I need to get just the right level of psycho dad-ness.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 09:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Quite a lot, I read. There – is that enough detail?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=315617&page=2&pp=25 is only slightly elucidating on the topic.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank you, Alba. This particular point had never occurred to my BRANE:

One piece of information that has been mentioned which is true is that there is little difference in power consumption etc between the on and standby modes of a Sky box. All standby does is switch off the video output, the box is otherwise completely functional.

Is a Sky box the same as a Freeview box, only with different channels?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, there's no moving parts inside the box so I'd presume that power consumption is pretty much the same whether it's on or off.

But then I'm the sort of person who's convinced that all this talk of the oncoming "energy crisis" could be solved by everyone switching off their computers when they leave work at night.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Which is why I switch off my computer when I leave work at night. I try to get everyone sle to do the same thing, but I get no joy whatsoever.

Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Sky are launching their High Definition TV service later in the year. For HDTVs carrying Sky digital, will this mean that the picture will no longer look so bad (in terms of compression noise, particularly noticeable around footballers when viewed from afar)?

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

And the power consumptiopn of HDTVs is sky high, I believe...

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i think that depends Steve. if they bump up the resolution but don't bump up the bandwidth sufficiently then it'll look just as bad, possibly even worse.

(the tivo has real problems with grass, smoke, fire, tv static and especially water on lower qualities)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

it would certainly be ridiculous to trump up HDTV like that without boosting the bandwidth/decreasing the compression level.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, there's no moving parts inside the box

There's the Little People inside mine.

I switch my computer off at night and I have recently started going round switching off lights.

Do I really have to wait until March for a choice of two football matches?

grass, smoke, fire, tv static and especially water

I wish to make a poor quality joke out of this.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Where's Ed when you need him? Is HDTV H.264 or is it MPEG-4? I can't help thinking the broadcast picture quality will be miles short of HDTV's potential.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

computer says mpeg-2

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1573979,00.asp

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

that said, cable companies who do both the encoding before transmission and the decoding before display are pretty much free to use what they want as long as it comes out of their decoder box looking like something the tv is expecting.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I do so enjoy the Fred Dibnah Channel.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I turn off everything at the plug, including the toaster and the kettle.

Not the fridge.

I can't believe some people don't even turn their computers off.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I usually leave my computer asleep (=Mac word for "on standby") rather than turn it off, pf, cause then I don't have to wait for it to boot up when I want to use it again.

I read years ago that modern computers have very low power consumption, so don't feel too guilty about leaving it on. Is that correct?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to always leave my stereo's amplifier on, cause it was supposed to make it sound better and maybe last longer too. Then I gave up caring.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

mine is a laptop, so it's not really using power.

i fear that if i switch off my tv or vcr at the mains, they will forget all their presets. is that insane?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Well - another old story is that it takes more energy to turn things on and off than to leave them on. That could yet be true, too. What do I know?

If that is not true, though, then I think Alba is being rather impatient. Surely you can switch it on and use it a minute later, and save power, rather than leave it on the whole time. But again, what do I know? When I try to put my computer on standby it basically shuts down - it returns to life frozen and unusable, and must be, I think, Reset.

Why a laptop computer is not using power, I don't know. But again - what do I know?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I would like to return to the glory days of switching everything off at the plug. Often I cannot reach comfortably nowadays. I hope MARK OATEN will sort this out for me.

I have erased Community TV and Teachers TV and Bloomberg. Perhaps I am becoming reckless. I am tempted to erase the pop video channels too.

I think the VCR will forget the time if you switch it off at the plug.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Even if you switch off at the plug, make sure you leave the plugs in so that the current doesn't leak out!

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Why a laptop computer is not using power, I don't know. But again - what do I know?

i unplug it, it uses battery power while asleep.


Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I discovered the first episode of 'The Beiderbecke Affair' on ITV3 or something the other day. Lovely.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

James Bolam. I watched that, back in the day. I think.

Back in the days when I had an attention span.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

And the magnificent Barbara Flynn. IMDB reveals she was a hostage in middling Bill Murray vehicle Quick Change! The beginning and end of her Hollywood career.

ITV3 has been superceded in our affections by More4 and ITV4 (all yr ITC/RAI needs).

They're talking about debut hat-tricks on Sky Sports News. I bet they don't mention Tony Cottee OR if they mention Ian St John they neglect to point out that Everton beat Liverpool 4-3 in that match.

Hang on, I have email, they have email...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Did someone else get a debut hat-trick this weekend or has the entire universe fallen for the Scottish-media-led idea that getting a hat-trick against Peterhead (one of which was a penalty) makes Kris Boyd the new Pele? Or are they laughing at him in favour of *proper* debutante hat-tricks?

I have taken to watching National Geographic's rubbish list programmes (Top 10 "when bears fall out of trees onto trampolines", that sort of thing - seriously, the other night I watched a bear fall out of a tree onto a trampoline. It bounced off the trampoline and fell head first onto the ground. Then they followed it with some people who nearly drowned trying to rescue a cow off a cliff. Do you even get National Geographic on Digibox?

I still haven't watched anything on ITV4. Too many channels!

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to always leave my stereo's amplifier on, cause it was supposed to make it sound better and maybe last longer too. Then I gave up caring.

An old-fashioned valve amplifier would definitely last longer if it was kept switched on all the time - valves are really just a sophisticated sort of lightbulb, and valve failure nearly always occurs at switch-on.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

middling Bill Murray vehicle Quick Change

Middling? Vehicle?

It's a terrific picture!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, it tails off quite a bit, doesn't it? I think the first third is terrif, mind. And vehicle only in the sense that Bill was driving it (he co-directed). But can he get it to the airport on time? Ho ho.

I'm now watching a Snow show on one of the normal channels about land ownership. Pam is getting quite angry.

(I shamefully have left my CD player, phono pre-amp, line-level pre-amp, and monoblocs switched on for weeks at a time. The CD player has a class A output stage so it's probably sucking power from the wall like nobody's business 24 hours a day. It's the only concession to audiophile lore I make thesedays. I accept I'm also killing the planet).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link


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