Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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My grandmother somehow set her TV to that mode and nobody can figure out how to change it back and watching TV with her is horrible.

carl agatha, Saturday, 11 October 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

My grandmother somehow set her TV to that mode and nobody can figure out how to change it back and watching TV with her is horrible.

Ah, I think I can help with this, if it's a Samsung TV at least. When I got my new one it was set to that mode by default and it drove me demented for a while, trying to find the right setting to turn it off, or how to describe it for Googling the problem.

Samsung calls it "Auto Motion Plus" and it's basically interpolating an extra frame, to give a pseudo-HFR look.

It's actually kind of fascinating to turn it on if you want sets to instantly look like sets – like getting a sneaky behind-the-scenes look at the film. Particularly weird with really old films.

People do call it the Soap Opera Effect (http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect/)

I didn't go see The Hobbit in real HFR, so not sure how it compares, but audience reports suggest it has a similar effect.

Alba, Saturday, 11 October 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link

why does anyone like this and why does it exist?

akm, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link

for a second i thought you were referring to twin peaks. very crude trolling, must do better

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

The laundromat is effectively a pinball arcade, they have maybe a dozen tables...I favor Theatre of Magic tho.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:13 (nine years ago) link

why does anyone like this and why does it exist?

Maybe it's part of an industry-wide push to get our brains used to HFR.

Alba, Saturday, 11 October 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link

this feature is widespread and completely unnecessary. I nearly had a heart attack when I bought a new tv and all my favorite films looked completely horrible and cheap. Any tv owner's manual should have a section called "how to stop making things look terrible". I have to imagine this has been a problem for many, many people, and that there are plenty that never figured out how to fix this.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

I don't even know if it is good or bad that there is a motion smoothing feature available on new tvs, but it definitely shouldn't be cranked up by default

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link

I think the first time I consciously saw it was at a different laundromat, where The Dark Knight was showing and I was convinced the TV station was actually showing the film slightly fast in order to squeeze in more commercials.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

I once bought a Logik CD player that put pauses between tracks(as far as I knew you couldn't change it), ever since I've been scared I'll buy another music player that does the same. It's a terrible idea so I don't know why somebody would specifically design it that way.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

That CD player feature you didn't like is going to come back in style.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

embrace the pause. use those 2 seconds to rebalance, center yourself, and listen inward. 2 seconds is an eternity compared to the infinitely small. a series of 2 second pauses leads to a collective pause that is infinitely larger than the collective pause of a series of 1.99 second pauses. the eternal pause, infinities on top of infinities. only now you are ready to listen to the next Wilson Phillips song.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

Seriously? This is genuinely upsetting me. I'm gonna need an iPod or mp3 player soon and I'm scared there will be pauses.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

Or when my CD player breaks, which will hopefully be at least 10 years from now.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

Hope they still make CD players in 10 years

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

Tune in tomorrow
for
Invitation to Love

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 11 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

hfr smoothing makes cgi movies look rly rly strange: like offhand wedding videos of dragons and talking animals. recommended, and now playing at yr nearest big-box electronics section. as the default setting on every television yeah it is a plague. first encountered it on a new tv of my parents' and it made me feel insane because they couldn't see it.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 11 October 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link

It's kinda how people think insane EQ and 'stereo surround' makes music sound better. It's just different. Not better.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 11 October 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

why does anyone like this and why does it exist?

if you're watching HD sports on a giant LCD screen, it improves the experience a lot.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 October 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

Just realized that 9 episodes is basically the length of TP Season 1...was thinking it sounded short but it'll be even longer than that with no commercials, and that first season covered a lot of ground and was incredibly engrossing.

akm, Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

why does anyone like this and why does it exist?

if you're watching HD sports on a giant LCD screen, it improves the experience a lot.

Or anything with little things flying across the screen, like "The Hobbit.'

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

I have to disagree there. The first dvd I played on the new tv was Return of the King, which I chose because I thought that a modern, visually exciting movie would be a good way to test out the HD and get it set up correctly, but it looked every bit as horrible and cheap as anything else. At first, I thought I just didn't remember what the film was like or maybe the tv was broken, until I finally figured out that I needed to turn off the smoothing.

This feature shouldn't be used for any feature films, it only makes them worse. The only thing I'd ever consider using it for is sports, and even there the results aren't great. Yes, in sporting events, without the smoothing, you do tend to see some pixelation with quick camera moves, but I've come around to preferring that over the weird unreality of the smoothing feature.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

Movies should be watched as their creators intended!

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 October 2014 04:26 (nine years ago) link

pumped directly into your visual cortex by implanted electrodes

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Sunday, 12 October 2014 04:38 (nine years ago) link

Yes! Thank you!

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 October 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link

Avant-pop abuse of smoothing feature in 10... 9... 8...

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 12 October 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

Now there's this too

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/twin-peaks-creator-reveal-characters-741319

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link

If Lynch is even half as enthusiastic about all this as Frost seems to be, I'll be happy.

warning, #4 can't be unseen (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

Frost wrote the Dale Cooper book which was pretty good, so looking forward to this.

akm, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link

When Twin Peaks first aired, I thought of Mark Frost as this old TV veteran (Hill Street Blues! That seemed like TV history) but actually HSB only finished three years before Twin Peaks started and Frost is still only 60. I guess I was young then.

Alba, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link

Wikipedia says Autobio of Dale Cooper was written by Mark's brother, Scott Frost.

abanana, Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link

that's obviously wrong since it was written by special agent dale cooper

Karl Malone, Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

like Dennis Perrin i am getting a distinct "X-Files movies" vibe

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

oops

akm, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

like Dennis Perrin i am getting a distinct "X-Files movies" vibe

1) from what?
2) have you seen the X-Files movies?*
3) have you seen The X-Files?

* there were X-Files movies?

Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Friday, 17 October 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link

I've been rewatching twin peaks. I never realized bryan cranston was the actor who played hank until just now. I feel so dumb.

dynamicinterface, Friday, 17 October 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link

I saw about 4 or 5 X-Files eps, which were fine, but i didn't need more.

yeah, i meant movie, i forgot how colossal a flop it was.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

and 1) from excessive enthusiasm and the track record of 20-years-later pickups

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link

(or just 2 years later... I'm sorta fine with the plug being pulled on Deadwood now)

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link

Not sure if the Bryan Cranston comment was serious or not. He didn't play Hank.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:14 (nine years ago) link

I've been rewatching twin peaks. I never realized bryan cranston was the actor who played hank until just now. I feel so dumb.

― dynamicinterface, Friday, October 17, 2014 3:59 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post

ok wait what

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 October 2014 04:30 (nine years ago) link

the connections btwn TP and x-files are pretty clear imo (TP as Mulder run amok, XF as TP back at headquarters) and i sympathize with "oh this will be bad" feelings of the XF films but like

as a fan

fuck it--my homies are on the TV. i'l turn on my AV Club later.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 October 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link

Also, David Lynch is pretty definitively not Chris Carter.

Shed Your Nasty Jewelry (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

i'm not sure what that means

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 October 2014 06:08 (nine years ago) link

wait, there WERE two x-files movies, no?

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 17 October 2014 10:40 (nine years ago) link

vindicated

I was gonna bring up Psycho II et al but yes Hitchcock was dead

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 October 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link

I've always wondered whether it was intentional or a coincidence that both David Duchovny and Don S. Davis ended up playing similar characters (eccentric government agent, protagonist's military dad) in X-Files as they did in Twin Peaks...

Tuomas, Friday, 17 October 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link

By "David Lynch is pretty definitively not Chris Carter" I meant that Lynch has a pedigree of quality projects whereas Carter basically just has the patchy laurels of The X-Files (and maybe Millennium, if you're feeling charitable) to rest on, so more Twin Peaks feels like a way more solid proposition on paper than another X-Files movie.

Shed Your Nasty Jewelry (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 October 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

aha

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 October 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link


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