Chess - classic or dud?

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I think winning = classic & losing = dud

man, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I give good game even to good players, but I rarely win. Classic occasionally.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It's classic but I hardly ever play it.

hstencil, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Haven't played it in years, still great. Proud moment of callow youth -- beating my dad at chess when I was...eight, I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

My brain and chess don't get along

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i've never seen it but i own the soundtrack.

di smith (lucylurex), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, he let you win.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

whoa Ned, weird thread connection, I used beating your dad at chess as a metaphor in a thread about your dad's overcoming the prostate thing!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever beaten my dad at chess. He's a helluva crossword genius guy, too.

hstencil, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(or is that what you meant by callow? Maybe I should reread that callow thread)

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Cruelest game ever = chess as a drinking game. Lose a piece, take a shot. Best way to lose at chess very quickly. Otherwise classic.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Snap with hstencil and Ned. Played for the first time in years a few months ago and won. I immediately started another game against the same bloke and got blown out of the water. The consensus: the fact that I was as rusty as hell made me unpredictable in the first game, but by the second he had 'worked me out' and was able to spot my basic tactical errors earlier and felt freer exploiting them.

My dad was a bit more cunning than Ned's. He made sure I didn't beat him at age eight by not teaching me until age 11. I think I was 16 when I beat him for the first time and we've only played together a few times since.

Fred Nerk, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Utter classic; I play it pretty often, and put up a decent fight, although I haven't won a game in months. Once upon a time I was on the chess team at my middle school, and I had a retarded long undefeated streak between ages 11 and 13. I think adolescence fucked up my game, although I'm not sure how.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I reached my peak weeks after learning the game. I had just turned 11, and a friend taught me to play - then immediately took me to this adult chess club that he was a member of. They were having a speed-chess tournament that day. I was drawn against the club captain, a regular county player, in the first round - and I beat him. I was school champion and stuff in the years after, but it was really all downhill from there. I've not played in years and years.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I play now and again. I am hopeless at openings, but if I survive I'll usually win.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Cruelest game ever = chess as a drinking game. Lose a piece, take a shot. Best way to lose at chess very quickly. Otherwise classic.

That would make a gambit all the more effective.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The drunkest I ever got was playing that game (I was sucking right from the opening move and I ended up drinking most of a 26oz bottle of Southern Comfort). They almost called the police because they thought I was missing. I was actually in a bathroom in the Brandon University science building basement with my head in a sink. I don't think I've played chess since.

Bryan (Bryan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

To the scoffers above -- my dad admitted then and has said since that I beat him fair and square. Nyah. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm going to take up full contact American football with my Dad this weekend! Bring it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Spencer is a MANLY man!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

this one night, in Bangkok...

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The queens we use would not excite you Jim.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

The ILX production of Chess...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 March 2003 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I love chess and the idea of chess, but I suck. Actually I haven't played for about four years...I went to a chess club thing my freshman year of college, got beaten (twice) in a matter of minutes, realized I was out of my league and didn't want to put the time into memorizing real chess stuff.

A couple of people in my band are excellent chess players. On our last out of town gig they were telling me about the latest Kasparov/Deep Blue Jr. thing, that shit is fascinating.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I cannot get my head around chess whatsoever, I think chess is a guy thing.

Now Go, on the other hand, that I like. I wish I was a lot better at it, but it has an organic beauty that chess just doesn't. Less logic, more intutive. And it looks sexy and elegant.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

classic: battle-chess for the PC.
dud: pepperidge farm chesspiece cookies. yuck

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 13 March 2003 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I think chess is a guy thing

I can think of a few people who might have something to say about that one...

I love chess, and wish I had more talent for it; the taste of success I've had at a handful of tournaments is enough to make me want more, but alas, I'm not a visual thinker, so that limits me severely. Still, I'd like to get a master's rating someday; judging by the difference between my rating now, and the one I had when I started playing tournaments, I'm about two-thirds of the way there. I haven't played a tournament in several years, though, and I suspect the advent of Internet chess is hitting the world of OTB (over-the-board) tournaments pretty hard...

Phil (phil), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheap but sturdy wooden chess pieces = classic.
The game itself? Well have no mind for it and none of my friends enjoy it so = dud.

Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my better games of chess (I'm black):

1. e2-e4 e7-e5
2. g1-f3 g8-f6
3. f1-c4 d7-d5
4. e4xd5 f6xd5
5. f3xe5 d5-f4
6. o-o d8-g5
7. e5-g4 f8-d6
8. f1-e1+ c8-e6
9. c4xe6 f7xe6
10. d2-d3 g5-d5
11. g4-e3 d5-g5
12. g2-g3 o-o
13. e3-g2 f4-h3+
14. g1-f1 f8xf2++

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"Now Go, on the other hand, that I like. I wish I was a lot better at it, but it has an organic beauty that chess just doesn't. Less logic, more intutive. And it looks sexy and elegant. "

Go is very beautiful to play. Your mind is expanding two ways at once (defense/offense), yet the board and pieces form a minimalistic pattern and the clicking noises as you make a move are so peaceful.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 13 March 2003 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't say i know anything about go.
but as far as chess goes - classic
& when you lose - classic - because that's how you learn

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 13 March 2003 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I like chess but I am gawdawful at it. I have this mental deficiency where I can't plan more than one or two moves ahead so I can't really plan. I play with my girlfriend occasionally and she always always beats me. I should read some chess how-to books or something.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever won a game. Ever. Ronald Reagan could probably beat me if we played this afternoon.

dave q, Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

you could beat george bush tho'.

classic. I've always meant to join the chess club at uni but ILX stops me.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I like chess. My dad taught me how to play when I was very young, but I'm not very good at it. My best chess playing memories are when I went to stay with my friend Tom in Granada in Spain. He was studying out there, but he'd finished his work for the year and most of his friends hadn't, so the two of us spent most of the days and early evenings sitting about in cafes, playing chess, drinking beer and eating tapas.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

classic when someone shouts down a hall of residence corridor, "You left your pawn in my room last night!"

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 13 March 2003 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll think about it and let you know in about thirty posts time.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I couldn't get my head round it -- admittedly this was 20 years ago -- so I give it a flippant, dismissive dud.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to actually admit that I don't know how to play chess. I don't even know what moves the pieces make :-/

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 14 March 2003 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

classic w/o doubt. I suck at it but it's really fun to play if your opponent isn't one of those clock freaks from the park or something.

Searching for Bobby Fischer is one of my fave movies evah

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"Bobby Fischer vs. the Rest of the World" by Brad Darrach is a hilarious (and sadly out-of-print) book about Fischer's antics en route to winning (and then throwing away) the world chess championship, whilst single-handedly jump-starting America's post-1972 chess craze. He was one of the stranger characters of the last century, no doubt.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I've read the piece that book started out as, an early '70s Playboy article that was reprinted in The Best Sports Writing of the Century anthology; it's grate

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anyone see that chess movie with John Turturro?

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link

no, what's it called?

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"pawnography"

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 14 March 2003 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked it as a kid and then neglected it, disliked it even, until I moved here in September. My housemate brought a chessboard. I started liking it again. I usually win against my housemates but have only managed to even tie my computer one time. However, I lost against my dad the last time I was in Ottawa. I can relate to the "can't get my head around it" sentiment because that's how I felt about it throughout high school, even through undergrad if I ever even thought about it then. Somehow it started making sense again.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 14 March 2003 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link

THe chess movie with Turturro is The Luzhin Defense, which is an adaptation of the Nabokov book "The Defense." It's about a crazy chess genius.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Friday, 14 March 2003 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Chess in the context of giant pieces on a checkered surreal landscape is also classic.

Or just the giant pieces in general that they have someplaces in Europe. They are fun to play with.

Also in "Alice Through the Looking Glass"

And also all the many different kinds of chess sets like civil war pieces or other themed sets are classic:

http://www.war-art.com/images/f602.jpg

http://www.sapart.freeserve.co.uk/aa.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/dovshuk/jjppga/krig11.jpg

http://chess.com.ru/img/opposition-13.jpg

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 14 March 2003 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the last one Dan's personal chess set from the Franklin Mint?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 March 2003 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

haha chessmen of gor!!

mark s (mark s), Friday, 14 March 2003 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

: )

calstars, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:07 (one year ago) link

ale for the champion

imago, Sunday, 2 December 2018 00:54 (one year ago) link

The Speed chess championship final between Wesley So and Hikaru Nakamura is happening now.

https://www.twitch.tv/chess

hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Sunday, 2 December 2018 22:09 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx6xUfMWkAAawtz.jpg:large

Mordy, Monday, 28 January 2019 16:43 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I’d like to blame it on my penchant for playing while drinking, but my rating seems to just get worse and worse, now flirting with mid 900s, falling from around 1100 when I started playing daily maybe a year and a half ago. But the game is so real.

calstars, Sunday, 17 February 2019 23:20 (one year ago) link

I don’t have any inclination to stop playing though. Maybe I’ll get down to true beginner level soon and can rebuild my foundation from scratch

calstars, Sunday, 17 February 2019 23:35 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

down to 930! I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but hey

calstars, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:20 (one year ago) link

too much focusing on attack at expense of defense?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:29 (one year ago) link

i'm somehow getting worse the more i play. maybe i'm more aware of how bad i am

global tetrahedron, Friday, 8 March 2019 22:06 (one year ago) link

1 step back 2 steps forward is for sure a thing in chess i find when i'm a losing streak it helps to start being more attentive, think more about whether i'm hanging any pieces, think more about possible checks and captures, and just slow down in general. nb i have lots of clock problems when i play ymmv.

Mordy, Friday, 8 March 2019 22:07 (one year ago) link

In the openings - develop your minor pieces, don't do too many pawn moves, don't bring out your queen too early, castle early.

hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Saturday, 9 March 2019 13:22 (one year ago) link

streaks are a thing in chess, for sure.
I also I tend to lose the first game of the day. It's almost a law.

Ludo, Saturday, 9 March 2019 13:27 (one year ago) link

Yes, I am aggressive. That’s how you win, right?

calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:48 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Attack can be the best form of defence, but from a solid base as per cajunsunday's post

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 13 April 2019 08:10 (eleven months ago) link

These days I’m just trying to have a bit more fun with it. Like jumping into a multiple move exchange just to see what interesting positions can emerge

calstars, Saturday, 13 April 2019 11:50 (eleven months ago) link

Which is also good in that you get more space on the board to play with hopefully

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 14 April 2019 07:37 (eleven months ago) link

starcraft > chess

lumen (esby), Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:45 (eleven months ago) link

Starcraft vaguely like real time chess

calstars, Sunday, 14 April 2019 12:35 (eleven months ago) link

starcraft is great but not better than chess

Mordy, Sunday, 14 April 2019 15:03 (eleven months ago) link

been playing backgammon lately, a lot, for some reason. Maybe i no longer believe in brains just in FAITH

:P

Ludo, Sunday, 14 April 2019 19:22 (eleven months ago) link

I'm hooked again I think. I played everyday for a couple of years, 25 years ago in college.
I estimate my rating to have been 1400-1450. We had some strong players in the club who were
very helpful. One guy was rated 2400+ and was always top 2 or 3 in Wisconsin. I think I'm back to
over 1300 again, but I'm confident that's going up, although slowly I'm sure. I know now to study more
endgame and tactics now. Back then everybody wanted to memorize the opening moves.

OMG the tools that are available now. Just all those videos on youtube alone. I like the St Louis
Chess Club's channel the best.

Chess.com has to be the greatest website ever. The new interface for going over your games is so cool.
You can go back and see all your mistakes and the better moves in about 5 minutes. The puzzle rush for tactics
practice is also great.

This could be trouble for my free time.

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 13:23 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

Just won a 10 minute blitz game and am on top of the world

calstars, Saturday, 22 June 2019 02:00 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Recently reached 1k after a long time
You’ve come a long way, baby

calstars, Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:03 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

I beat that Korean entity btw

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:30 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

https://youtu.be/zIE3CFNpZ5Y
Cavett v Fischer

calstars, Saturday, 8 February 2020 05:12 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

That Fischer video is so cool.

In other news: The Candidates has started! The Giri Vs Nepo. game is looking pretty interesting - neither player has castled after 18 moves.

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/fide-candidates-2020/1/1/1

cajunsunday, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 11:57 (three weeks ago) link

Hurrah! Chess has the undivided attention of a sports-obsessed public

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 12:03 (three weeks ago) link

Magnus Carlsen commentating too. Awesome

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 12:07 (three weeks ago) link

Yes its cool that Magnus is commentating. His company bought the chess24.com website, so he can do what he wants I guess.

cajunsunday, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 12:46 (three weeks ago) link

Giri having to lose the game to draw it as things stand. Magnificent defence from the zen master

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 16:08 (three weeks ago) link

Oof though, wow - Nepo finds it!

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 16:39 (three weeks ago) link

Ding is in trouble against MVL. Could lose 2 games in a row!

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:19 (three weeks ago) link

Slight advantage against Caruana for Ding today. He needs the win

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 11:16 (two weeks ago) link

Caruana has just gone for a complicated line that hands Ding a clear advantage if he plays it well. Exciting!

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 11:18 (two weeks ago) link

Not ideal for Caruana to have to move the king to F2 in the first 10 moves!

cajunsunday, Thursday, 19 March 2020 11:41 (two weeks ago) link

Oh wait. Ding is playing white. I'm confused.

cajunsunday, Thursday, 19 March 2020 12:03 (two weeks ago) link

Ding now clearly winning!! Defended Caruana's preparation like a beast

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 13:26 (two weeks ago) link

Pretty much over now. Caruana's a Bishop down with no counter-play.

cajunsunday, Thursday, 19 March 2020 14:22 (two weeks ago) link

bit disrespectful spinning it out that long tbh

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:07 (two weeks ago) link

Nepo leading the tournament. Would be a good challenger for Carlsen; he wouldn't win of course but there might be some fun games

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Sunday, 22 March 2020 18:32 (two weeks ago) link

I think Nepo has a pretty good record against Carlsen so it could be interesting. I still think Caruana will come through in the end - he's got experience winning the big tournaments.

cajunsunday, Sunday, 22 March 2020 20:18 (two weeks ago) link

6th round, Nepo in a winning position against Ding

willem, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:36 (two weeks ago) link

FIDE stops #FIDECandidates

Official announcement - Starting March 27, 2020, Russia interrupts air traffic with other countries without indicating any time frames. In this situation FIDE President decided to stop the tournament.https://t.co/bnDDJhFuiG pic.twitter.com/YYo3SMidqj

— International Chess Federation (@FIDE_chess) March 26, 2020

They're taking everything away from us lads

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 March 2020 10:10 (one week ago) link

ffs this has been keeping me going

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 26 March 2020 10:27 (one week ago) link

Sad times!

cajunsunday, Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:20 (one week ago) link

maybe we can just give it to MVL lol

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:23 (one week ago) link

They're taking everything away from us lads

― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:10 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

ffs this has been keeping me going

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:27 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink


seriously :'(

willem, Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:19 (one week ago) link

Magnus tasted what it was like to have the world's eyes on chess, and liked what he saw

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/magnus-carlsen-launches-online-chess-super-tournament

ban laggy jazzer (imago), Friday, 3 April 2020 09:45 (five days ago) link

As a non-expert, I'm curious how they're going to prevent cheating in an online tournament like this. Wouldn't it be extremely easy for someone to use a computer to suggest moves? Or would that be easy to detect?

o. nate, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:13 (five days ago) link

they will probably have to reveal everything in their room and share screens etc. odd behaviour can be easily detected by ppl who play a *lot* i think?

also there's the matter of pride and reputation, these people don't want even a cloud of suspicion over them.

also, if someone went through a tournament playing computer first and second choice moves with the occasional suboptimal that maintains advantage then idk there'd be questions

ban laggy jazzer (imago), Friday, 3 April 2020 16:20 (five days ago) link


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