S&D: Serial Killers

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Inspired by the Zodiac references in another thread and the fact that I immediately thought of Albert Fish on the pictures of fish thread. Destroy them all, obviously, because they are bad and do no good. By why do they fascinate folks? And do you find a particular killer or killers really interesting?

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I suppose you could say Stalin was interesting.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Destroy them all, obviously, because they are bad and do no good

Haha that was what I was thinking of writing the second I saw the thread title -- my hackles go up when people romanticize these awful people or overuse words like "fascinating" in describing them -- this is a personal issue as all my old goth friends were like that and it became such an obvious tired pose after a while

...that said, you can't front on Edmund Emil Kemper, who in his final act of savagery, decaptated his mother, stood her head on the mantel, and was heard by neighbors screaming at her for several hours. He had apparently also thrown some darts at her in his post-murder frenzy.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

but the best serial killer moment ever is when Richard Ramirez says "Hail Satan!" to the newscameras as he's being led from the courtoom

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

seek: Hunting Humans by Elliott Leyton, best book on the subject.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I find serial killers extremely interesting. I love shows that profile them and what not. I like to know what goes on in their minds. I wanted to be a forensic psychologist at one point in my life....but my guidance counselor told me I had pipe dreams. asshole.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i rate hunting humans, too

Kemper — IQ smart, even if a total social cataclysm in the non-metaphorical sense — also said (something like): "You pass a girl in a the street , and part of you thinks, 'She's cute, I'd like to date her' — and another part thinks, 'I wonder what her head looks like on a stick'"

I find the fact if Kemper's self-reflexive comedy timing the most ugly and most scary fact abt him, actually — certainly the hardest for me to process and be comfortable with. I can't be comfortable with it, bcz it means a state of mind i put a lot of moral trust in and enjoy — a playful sense of fun — is not firewalled territory after all.

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Kemper's got a million of those extraordinarily fucked-up jokes, like the one about his mother's larynx, that aren't so much (for me) Hollywood action hero one-liners as acknowledgements that he knows he's a complete disaster, so why not tell jokes about it? It makes him somehow more normal -- and therefore, probably, more scary -- than narcissitic blowhards like Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

serial killers - sad losers

in your heart you know I'm right.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 16:56 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

There was a great program on HBO about a week ago about cannibal killers. Sick stuff, Issei Segawa a killer turned porno star free on the streets. Check it out.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

they are sad losers true but the thing that's fucked up and fascinating about them is they sometimes MISGUIDEDLY see themselves as artists (or maybe more importantly, their actions are interpreted by others as if it were art) - like they're staging something symbolic for other people's benefit ... trying to impose some order on a chaotic universe, immortality, or extremist existentialist beyond morality blah blah --- of course this is also what is fascinating and UTTERLY REPELLANT about Nazis and the Khmer Rouge ---
but it takes a real disconnect btwn reality and dreamsville to be anything but very sad or adolescent to think this way.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

which i guess is long convoluted way of saying the same thing ned did in the first post of the thread.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

One tries.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the attraction to the persistently horrible is old and deep in culture and society — it certainly isn't recent

i'm just rereading sherlock holmes at the moment, after a regrettable mini-binge on jack the ripper books:
holmes = 1887-whenever, ripper murders = 1888 basically

i think a lot of holmes material is conan doyle (unconsciously?) dealing with ripper material, transforming it to cope with it, and help others cope => as usual, the cliche of victorian politeness is exploded... story after story centres on a hyper-nasty detail (little old lady sent two severed ears in the post) (this is a particuarly ripperish one actually)

(eg: the 'monster' who dances mockingly round the police, playing games with them, becomes the master detective in principle defeating crime, though actually almost always merely explaining it afterwards)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

(and explaining how clever he's been)

(if i were charlotte cornwell i wd be using this as proof that CD *was* the ripper)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

patricia cornwell

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the last comment in court of ramirez : "big deal. death comes with the territory. I'll see you in disneyland" could have been lifted from a situationist novel.

the hegemon, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

(from "the pigfucker" in a situationist novel obv)

the hegemon, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

if i were charlotte cornwell i wd have a BIG BUM!!

*lawyers descend: mark s is no more*

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I find Bundy interesting. Firstly because he killed so many (estimates in the hundreds) and got away with it for so long; and also because he wasn't outwardly a weirdo which is fairly untypical for a serial killer.

David (David), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

So which would win in an all out fight, The Millenium Falcon or the USS Enterprise?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I still think of becoming a forsenic pyschologist.

That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 22:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Albert Fish! A true ghoul... Read Bloodletters and Bad Men!

Sonic Spam, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

So which would win in an all out fight, The Millenium Falcon or the USS Enterprise?

*geeks out*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Fish's photo is really creepy in that Bloodletters and Bad Men book. He is the one that has stood out the most in my memeory from when I was a kid and used to read that book before I went to sleep.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I started this thread and haven't said which one I find most interesting -- Richard Trenton Chase, because he was so COMPLETELY mad and because, with proper psychological treatment, he likely would never have killed, because his trial and conviction are teytbook examples of the US justice system's inability to deal with the insane. He was also active in the same area and at the same time as Kemper, which is pretty scary.

The fact that he is fairly beloved by goth serial killer fetishists and wannabe serial killers is pathetic.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 10:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Justice and the insane? Justice means doing what is right, even it goes contrary to popular opinion. The meat grinder is the only solution.

Die Mauer, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 12:59 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I find the whole Jefferey Dahmer story fairly interesting. Also, one of my sister used to go play at her best friend's house in grade school - who lived a few doors down from John Wayne Gacy.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 13:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Is finding criminally "mad" people the same as laughing at a "spakka"? I'm not sure . . . . but anyway, Worf vs. Chewy in an anything goes wrestling contest. Who wins?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 13:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

but the best serial killer moment ever is when Richard Ramirez says "Hail Satan!" to the newscameras as he's being led from the courtoom

Time to dredge up the last post on this
thread?

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 13:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

My sentence was a trainwreck -- his trial and conviction, although disastrous, are not the reason he killed -- I meant the incredible fact that this guy was found sane is a reason that I find the case interesting, as well as the fact that his crimes would have been prevented if he'd been properly treated for paranoid schizophrenia.

And the word is "Hoden", du Angeber. Fick dich ins Knie.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 14:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
Guilty!. Zodiac next...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

man, they'll never get the Zodiac

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

it would be great if there was some serial killer who decided to be the greatest serial killer of them all by hunting down and killing all the others.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You read too many comics.

That's either the best or the worst film script idea I've ever heard.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Depending on whether or not it stars Keanu Reeves in a major role.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

or maybe some reformed serial killer could help the cops to track down other serial killers - as only he can think like they can. I know this sounds a bit like a Thomas Harris novel, but I'm thinking more that the serial killer turned cop has genuinely reformed, except that they keep being tempted to go back to their own ways.

mmmmm.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I quite wanted to see Ripley's Game...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I watched part of 'Citizen X' (about Andrei Chikatilo) again on C4 last night. The execution scene is odd. He is ordered by two guards to enter a room in the prison, then to stand somewhere, then he starts to turn round and is told 'please don't turn round' (he complies), and then is shot in the head with a pistol. I gather the single pistol shot to the head was a common Soviet execution method but surely he would have been tied up or secured in some way rather than them relying on his peaceful co-operation?

David (David), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I never thought I'd see the day when they'd convict anyone for any of the Green River killings. Wow. And the serial killer was Gary Leon Ridgway all along, huh? Wow. I guess that finally clears William J. Stevens, Jr. -- hm, wonder what his brother thinks about it. I seriously thought they'd get more than one person for the murders. Hm. Wonder why Ridgway deviated from his pattern, then. He just dumped a lot of his victims, but then ended up posing a few of them.

Interesting thing is that ever since Gary Ridgway was arrested for about four or five of the Green River killings, ever since he's been in police custody, suddenly they're finding the remains of some of the missing females who were thought to have been the victims of the Green River killer. They found Pammy Avent, April Buttram, and Marie Malvar, and hopefully they'll find Kelli McGinness, Rebecca Marrero, Patricia Osborn, Kase Lee, and Kristi Vorak. And I wonder who the unidentified victims were. Hmmm.

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

is Gary Ridgway that guy that did the "camoflague" single? there was always something a bit weird about him.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'll bet the 'Zo died a long time ago. I thought they had a good idea who it might have been, though.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dee I get weak in the knees when you start talkin' crime

*swoon*

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

What happened to the Unabomber=Zodiac theory?

L(E^24) (Leee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I read a book about the Zodiac last year, and I from what I remember, Kerry is right.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Most evil book ever: Autobiography of a Serial Killer by Donald 'Pee Wee' Gaskins.

Search: anything by Jack Olsen

Freedom Dupont, Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

What is the general consensus on the fascination with serial killers/"but the criminal mind is sooooo fascinating" argument? What's really going on there?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think it has to do w/ rituals and ritualization that most people consider marginal, hence my interest in the occult as well as serial killers.

L(E^24) (Leee), Thursday, 6 November 2003 00:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Man, how weird must this be for Homolka's kids

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/05/31/convicted-serial-killer-karla-homolka-volunteering-at-montreal-elementary-school.html

jmm, Monday, 22 October 2018 13:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Who is this person who married her and decided she would be a good person to raise children with?

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 13:32 (one month ago) Permalink

assuming any of em know?

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Monday, 22 October 2018 14:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Everyone in Canada over a certain age knows who Karla Homolka is.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:09 (one month ago) Permalink

I read about this case this morning because of this thread. It’s extremely fucked up she is not in jail. I want good conditions for prisoners and a path to rehabilitation for most people who feasibly could re-join society, but this woman tortured and murdered young teenagers.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 15:13 (one month ago) Permalink

xp i figured she was under an assumed identity now

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Fucking disgusting

F# A# (∞), Monday, 22 October 2018 15:37 (one month ago) Permalink

The husband certainly knows. The school maybe not.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 15:37 (one month ago) Permalink

In terms of the media, the serial killer has been replaced by the mass shooter (or mass vehicular killer). This is simplistic, but that would seem to be an obvious reflection of the how media works today. Serial killings usually unfold slowly, over years and sometimes decades; the mass shooter involves instant, blanket coverage.

i'm going on pure speculation here and i really don't know how much the hard work of reporters helped to shed light on quietly operating active murderers, vs the more instantaneous and visceral and public violence of mass shooters, but we personally know someone who was a crime reporter in L.A., and who wrote a true crime book which received a lot of notices for quality and in terms of being an important book in the genre, and who worked very hard on the urban crime beat. And she was let go by her newspaper despite all her accolades and bonafides and the importance of her work. she seemed fairly cynical about the current media landscape iirc, it sounded positively nightmarish.

i think local crime coverage really gets a short shrift nationwide these days, generally speaking. the crime might be covered, but the followup doesn't exist anymore. and w/serial murders you'd need followup, and w/mass killings it's much more tied up in one tidy package.

again, pure speculation; people who have worked in media could shed better light on that.

omar little, Monday, 22 October 2018 16:12 (one month ago) Permalink

i think you are onto something there definitely

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:56 (one month ago) Permalink

it might also be Thomas Harris's fault

Number None, Monday, 22 October 2018 17:59 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s extremely fucked up she is not in jail.

Her reduced sentence and early chance at parole caused much outrage at the time. It's been a few years since I read this really good book on the case, but as I remember it--same old story--the Crown was panicky that, without her testimony, they didn't have enough solid evidence to put away Bernardo. (And there was a key videotape that was being held by one of the attorneys?) So they basically gave away the store when cutting a deal with her. Many people feel that she may even be the more culpable of the two.

clemenza, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:04 (one month ago) Permalink

They couldn’t subpoena the videotape?

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:20 (one month ago) Permalink

I’m mostly disturbed that she has children and is raising them. I guess the state can’t do anything but what a nightmare.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm trying to remember specifics but I can't--the prosecutors were in a tough spot, I think. I don't think anybody knew about the videotape except the lawyer who had it, and he subsequently was disbarred or something.

clemenza, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:35 (one month ago) Permalink

Ken Murray: he sat on the tape(s) for 17 months.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/torture-tapes-left-lawyer-traumatized/article18422428/

clemenza, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Jesus

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Imagine sitting on evidence of a murder to protect a client.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:50 (one month ago) Permalink

well...lawyers and the law, eh

lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Monday, 22 October 2018 21:02 (one month ago) Permalink

I guess it might fall under attorney-client privilege? Seems weird that video of a murder could be protected information. Would like one of the lawyers to explain this

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 21:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Murray was Bernardo’s lawyer, not Homolka’s iirc. Bernardo’s defence was that Homolka was the killer and Murray intended to use the tapes to show she was lying after she testified - though he belatedly realised that she was withholding evidence illegally.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 22 October 2018 21:20 (one month ago) Permalink

quite confusing, he thought the tape helped his client so he kept it hidden for almost a year and a half because reasons

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 22 October 2018 21:21 (one month ago) Permalink

Very odd. It doesn’t sound like it was especially exonerating.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 21:37 (one month ago) Permalink

I gotta stop reading about this. Apparently he applied for parole recently and gave some self-pitying excuse about how he was acting out due to low seld esteem. How reprehensible and also ridiculous.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 22 October 2018 21:42 (one month ago) Permalink

His argument is that the tapes would have come up sooner had the prosecution not gone out of their way to stop Homolka from being cross-examined. Bernardo always claimed he had never actually murdered anyone and, in theory, the tapes would have been used to show that Homolka was lying about being a reluctant participant - which could have introduced a measure of doubt as to whether he might have been telling the truth. He would almost certainly still have been convicted of murder even if Homolka had actually killed them but there might have been more hope of parole at some point.

There is pretty much no prospect of him ever getting released.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 22 October 2018 21:45 (one month ago) Permalink

i feel so sad for homolka's kids - they're gonna find out one day what their mother did and it's gonna fuck up them up.

just1n3, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 03:11 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah that will be an awful experience

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 05:42 (one month ago) Permalink

Just read Peter Vronsky's Sons of Cain: A History of Serial Killers From the Stone Age To the Present. Kind of an odd book. Vronsky has a weird style in which he veers between fairly dry sociological analysis and jarring pop culture refs. Also too many exclamation marks!

But definitely some interesting material, especially the stuff about pre-Jack the Ripper "werewolves" and the medieval witch panic as a state-sanctioned serial killing epidemic. The section on the 19th-century French serial killer Joseph Vacher and the pioneering investigation that led to his arrest is particularly fascinating. I'd never even heard of him before

Number None, Thursday, 1 November 2018 21:26 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

read today about the benders of kansas, 1869-1872, a sweet spot where pioneering and serial killing mix and match

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:00 (one week ago) Permalink

pioneering must have had it’s share of serial killers you would think now looking back. everyone’s dying left & right from every disease/trampled by livestock/drunken fistfights, creates a pretty convenient & chaotic cover for deliberate violence, lotta ppl not being missed etc

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 03:24 (one week ago) Permalink

few opportunities to taunt law enforcement via the media though :(

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:26 (one week ago) Permalink

Pony Express rider with a bag full of Frontier Zodiac letters

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:43 (one week ago) Permalink

The Ingalls family, made famous in the books and television series Little House on the Prairie, lived near Independence, and Laura Ingalls Wilder mentioned the Bender family in her writing and speeches. In 1937 she gave a speech at a book fair, which was later transcribed and printed in the September 1978 Saturday Evening Post and in the 1988 book A Little House Sampler. She mentioned stopping at the inn, as well as recounting the rumors of the murders spreading through their community. She alleged that her father, "Pa Ingalls", joined in a vigilante hunt for the killers, and when he spoke of later searches for them she recalled, "At such times Pa always said in a strange tone of finality, 'They will never be found.' They were never found and later I formed my own conclusions why."

omar little, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:45 (one week ago) Permalink

TO EDITOR SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE BY THE TIME THIS REACHES YOU ANOTHER GIRL WILL BE DEAD STOP YOU WILL NEVER FIND ME STOP I'LL KEEP KILLING FOREVER STOP

"Uh . . . are you sure you want me to send this, sir?"

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:46 (one week ago) Permalink

however --

Some have cast doubt on the story saying that Laura would have been only 4 when her family moved away from the area, and that the Benders were exposed in 1873, two years after the Ingallses left.[21]

someone needs to make this into a film: Bloody Nights: A Little House on the Prairie Thriller

omar little, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:47 (one week ago) Permalink

if it was two years after the Ingallses left then WHY DID PA KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT IT HMMM

Also - what was the most brutal act ever depicted in an episode of little house? I was well versed in my youth and I'm sure there must have at least been a murder at some point but the hardest core thing I can recall atm is albert getting strung out on morphine (well I suppose there is the act of domestic terrorism in the series finale)

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:55 (one week ago) Permalink

there was the episode where Charles and Albert are drawn away from the Ingalls ranch by a Comanche tribe and return to find the place in flames and Mary and Laura have been kidnapped (the others are all dead.) Charles and Albert spend years hunting Laura (Mary having been killed and left along the trail early on.) It's pretty harsh stuff.

omar little, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 16:59 (one week ago) Permalink

when pinkerton man dale cooper has to find laura it gets pretty dark/weird

puppy bash (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:05 (one week ago) Permalink

ah yes how could i forget the aguirre-like visionary sequence when charles and albert have been travelling without food or water for five days and think they see a giant weathercock sticking out of a mountaintop

xpost

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:13 (one week ago) Permalink

The episode of Little House where a young girl is raped in a barn (?.) was some heavy, dark shit for a little kid to see.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 17:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I believe that episode was called “Sylvia”, the victim was Albert’s girlfriend (Sylvia), and the rapist wore a really creepy plastic mask.

MrDasher, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:04 (one week ago) Permalink

I have told ppl about the Albert-on-morphine storyline & no-one believes me

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:12 (one week ago) Permalink

I remember and validate your experience VG

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:14 (one week ago) Permalink

I remember Albert being on morphine, but didn't he also later possibly die?

As for murder, Mr. Edwards' son was murdered, but I don't personally remember this and am not sure it was handled "darkly".
Charles had another son who was shot, but survived.
It was also pretty brutal when Mrs. Garvey (?) and Mary's baby died in a fire which I believe was started when Albert and the Garvey's son were smoking or something.
But the scary masked rapist was the thing that most left a childhood impression on me.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:34 (one week ago) Permalink

god i hardly caught any of little house when i was younger and now I'm glad

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:36 (one week ago) Permalink

little house on the prairie, and the basement beneath it

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:48 (one week ago) Permalink

xxposts ty jon <3

anyway i am basically ride or die for Little House forever

kinda want to rewatch it..but i’m deep into the Mary Tyler Moore Show & Hill Street Blues for the foreseeable future

anyway how did we get from serial killers to Little House? oh Benders, right right

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 02:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Did you hear about the Nun who liked Bingo?

She always had a little prayer on the housie

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 10:18 (one week ago) Permalink

xpost

i definitely want to rewatch little house during whatever time I left to me, it's gonna make me feel CRAZY to see though, it's like my weird hidden moral bedrock

hill street too (big time), and taxi, and st elsewhere. If you told me today I will never have time to rewatch those four shows I would be v v downcast

here ends my perversion of thread purpose

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 14:58 (one week ago) Permalink


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