Pauline Kael

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Jeannie Berlin is forever Lila in The Heartbreak Kid to me, so I can't get my head around her--Lila was simpering and needy and not very Kael-like.

Film starts in the '40s, covers right up till her retirement in 1991, plus the Wes Anderson lead-in a few years later. So two or three Kaels might be required, like with the Apu Trilogy.

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:00 (ten years ago) link

Or do a Palindromes/I'm Not There thing with a revolving cast of six or seven Paulines.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link

I'm Not There, yes. With Robert Downey, Jr. as the mid-'70s cultural superstar.

clemenza, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:13 (ten years ago) link

Surprisingly difficult to think of anyone besides Streep for this.

Like clemenza, thinking of Streep in Adaptation... also thinking that a movie like this perhaps calls for Charlie Kaufman.

To do a film about an iconic film critic seems to call for a meta-film.

drash, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link

surprisingly easy to think of anyone but Streep playing Robert Downey, Jr.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link

Nicole Kidman as RDJ

drash, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:44 (ten years ago) link

OK, Mia Wasikowska as a young PK

drash, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 03:47 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

This may have already been posted here, but I love this interview (circa 1979, I'm guessing) that Scott recently posted to Rock Critics. Her discussion of Catholic filmmakers is particularly interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUmUnLMWYQ

You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Friday, 27 June 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

1982, it says. This is wonderful. First new Pauline footage I've seen in years.

jmm, Friday, 27 June 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

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Reasons why I'll probably never leave ILX.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Friday, 27 June 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

there are a great many critics who are just trying to get through the day: who know they're second-rate, and are scared of their editors, and scared of their readers, and scared of the movie companies--and with some justification--but are never good enough to conquer their fears ... if you're not good enough, then you're at the mercy of everybody. and you have to give in.

^^^ intensely otm

lol @ her awesome umbrage when she's called "impressionistic"

difficult listening hour, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

"women would say to me, your review was like a legal brief ... and i would wince at that. but men would always say how impressionistic it was."

difficult listening hour, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

Googling Kael-Kiarostami led me to this, something I'd never read before:

http://www.theawl.com/2011/10/the-cordial-enmity-of-joan-didion-and-pauline-kael

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Quick writeup and trailer for upcoming Kael doc, What She Said:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/watch-trailer-for-pauline-kael-documentary-what-she-said-20150515

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

How many film critics are going to get their own docs?

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

Doorman: The Legend of Armond White

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

How many film critics are going to get their own docs?

inversely proportional to the number of critics getting daily newspaper gigs

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

Odd that 2001 and The Birds show up in the trailer--every other clip seems to be a film she loved, or something close to that.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 May 2015 05:24 (eight years ago) link

shes the type of critic i think id rather see a biopic of some sort for... like a film based wholly on the critic in birdman.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 21 May 2015 10:10 (eight years ago) link

Ditto, as I mentioned in another thread--I think it'd potentially make a great film.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 May 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

preview of Cineaste article on her "provincialism"

Being Polish myself, and recognizing the fact that Kael’s parents were both Polish Jews who immigrated to the United States from Warsaw in the first decade of twentieth century, there is one particular absence in her writing that I find particularly glaring: namely, the films of Central and Eastern Europe.

It is almost shocking to discover that, in her quarter-century as a film reviewer for The New Yorker, Kael had only once reviewed a film that can even remotely be deemed Eastern European, since, although it was nominally a West German production, it was made by a Hungarian director and produced by a Hungarian studio: namely, István Szabó’s Oscar-winning Mephisto (1981), which she had mixed feelings about. As far as we know (and I base my knowledge on several interviews I did with Kael’s acquaintances and friends, as well as on Kellow’s book), she never traveled anywhere behind the Iron Curtain and one would be hard-pressed to detect so much as a tiny bit of interest in this part of the world in her writing. In fact, whatever mentions of Eastern Europe do appear in her reviews, they are usually derogatory and anxiety-driven, as if Eastern Europe represented something shriveled, dry, and vaguely repugnant: definitely not a place one would identify with, even though one was not even a full generation distant from the geographical heart of it.

http://www.cineaste.com/hooked-and-gridlocked-michal-oleszczyk

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

She didn't review Fassbinder, Ozu, or Wadja either.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 June 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

nope

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

It doesn't particularly bother me. I don't see travel as requisites for good writing. The better point to make is why she remains a good film writer despite her weaknesses.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 June 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

I started to suspect that the reason my subject’s prose can feel tiresome after a while stems from the fact that it contains a paradoxical quality: vibrancy verging on closed-mindedness.

Monstrous Moonshine Matinee (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 June 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

It is true that I can only really read Kael in pretty small doses these days.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 1 June 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

I really want this--a friend has a chapter, along with Paul Schrader, Joan Tewkesbury, Allen Barra, and another 20 or so people--but the price is crazy: $75 on Amazon, before shipping and exchange. Even if I bought e-books, which I don't, that cost almost as much.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/kael_zpsajk9uvdz.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Talking-about-Pauline-Kael-Filmmakers/dp/1442254599/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442637816&sr=8-1&keywords=talking+about+pauline+kael

clemenza, Saturday, 19 September 2015 04:56 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

someone has made a short film about the arthouse she co-created (in Berkeley, right?):

http://www.docnyc.net/film/ed-pauline/#.VkS697erR9M

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 November 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

Twitter site, seemingly related to an upcoming documentary (What She Said).

http://twitter.com/WhatSheSaid_Doc

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Funny, in a sideways way; the almost-50th anniversary of a review of a film getting some 50th-anniversary attention.

http://flavorwire.com/609140/bonnie-and-clyde-pauline-kael-and-the-essay-that-changed-film-criticism/amp

clemenza, Monday, 14 August 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

In the middle of a move and trying to downsize my book collection somewhat. But For Keeps, Conversations with Pauline Kael, A Life in the Dark and Sontag & Kael are all coming with me.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

dump em all for The American Cinema :D

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 August 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link

It seems weird now that Bosley Crowther's original B&C pan came out four months before the film did

Josefa, Monday, 14 August 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link

dump em all for The American Cinema :D

Have you read that thing recently? Zzzzzzz.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

Kael: stimulating and so frequently wrong.

Josefa:

B&C played the Monreal fest in April; Crowther's last line in his review was "This is the film that opened the Montreal International Festival!" So either he went or had it sneaked for him.

It was regularly released in August. Kael's piece was published in October (apparently it had been turned down by the New Republic before the New Yorker ran it).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 August 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

PK did not go fulltime at TNY til '68.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 August 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

Don't know if you have Reeling, Eric, but that's the one regular collection I'd keep.

clemenza, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

Her collections were hard to find even used on Amazon until a couple years ago; I guess a proto-Eric dumped his load. I bought , Reeling, Taking it All In, and State of the Art.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link

They're expensive now. I had an extra hardcover of State of the Art, one I bought a few a years ago, relatively cheap and in perfect condition, that I gave to a friend recently. "If you find out you already have it, I want it back--it's worth something."

clemenza, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

I have all the original hardcovers up to Reeling, mostly bought a long time ago. Was wondering if all her stuff came out in HC; if State of the Art did I guess they all did

Josefa, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link

I still have State of the Art and Taking it All In, and will likely keep them too.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

Kael: stimulating and so frequently wrong.

Sarris: boring and right only about as often as average for film critics (and somewhat responsible for lists)

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

tsk tsk

How much (pre-1984) Sarris have you read that's not in TAC? He hasn't been collected like Kael.

(Also, he was especially good on silent and screwball comedy, so I'm probably barking up the wrong tree...)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

To be fair, I haven't read a lot of Sarris' Voice stuff that hasn't been collected in other anthologies.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

I love Sarris' You Ain't Heard Nothin' Yet.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 August 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

Doesn't Confessions of a Cultist have most of his 1960s stuff?

Josefa, Monday, 14 August 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

I found a remaindered copy of the Renata Adler collection After the Tall Timber the other day and re-read her Kael piece. It's something...many posts about it above.

I've gotta quote this from Michael Wolff's preface, though:

But the rightness of Adler's view of Kael as nasty, self-promoting gasbag only became more obvious as Kael's reputation disappeared after she lost her New Yorker post and power. She was unreadable, said Adler; and indeed, Kael is unread now.

He wrote that in 2015.

Whatever you think of her, "Kael is unread now" is a truly bizarre assertion. Only four years removed from the biography and The Age of Movies, no less.

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link

"How could Kael be read? - nobody I know reads her."

jmm, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link

lol michael wolff

mark s, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link


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