The Ozu thread.

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i'm sure i've mentioned it before, prob on this thread, but the original negative of tokyo story was destroyed in a fire many years ago and so the subsequent prints have never been as pristine as other ozus of similar vintage - and tokyo story is also one of his longest films. again, the bfi blu-ray of tokyo story has good sleevenotes that go some way to explaining why tokyo story became ozu's most celebrated film, in europe and the US, at least.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 April 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Watched Tokyo Story first, like everyone else, and watches a lot of others after, but usually spaced pretty far out. I've loved them all, but Late Spring was the definite "masterpiece moment."

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

lol
I do that with sun ra lps

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 18 April 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

aside from tokyo story my favorites are late spring, tokyo twilight and equinox flower. really i think they are all great if you dig his style.

something that always bothered me a little about tokyo story: the introduction of the youngest son, late in the movie seems to add nothing to the story and is a little confusing if you haven't been closely following the earlier dialog that mentions him.

fit and working again, Thursday, 18 April 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

Chishu Ryu's cameo at the end of The End of Summer <3<3<3

bentelec, Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

I watched The End of Summer earlier this week and thought it was a bit weak tbh. But nothing really could compare to the other postwar films of his I've seen. (I went Late Spring > Tokyo Story > An Autumn Afternoon > Floating Weeds) Late Spring would be a great starting point, imo.

I liked both the early silents I've seen -- I Was Born, But... and That Night's Wife.

By my quick count, Hulu has 28 Ozus under the Criterion banner.

Thirty-Six Views of ILX, by Mari3sa (WilliamC), Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

Equinox Flower is terrific, yeah. Late Autumn is a variant on Late Spring: the mom replaces the dad.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

Donald Richie's commentary tracks are exemplary.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

Rewatched High and Low recently after a few late Ozus and realized I was inadvertently having a Masahiko Shimazu festival (the super deadpan child actor).

bentelec, Thursday, 18 April 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

Walk Cheerfully + Benshi was ace, good to know that even his Gangster movies are totally glacial.

ヘイシグ・ブローズ (MaresNest), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

you were there too? I was super blown over by the effort they'd gone to - the music was fantastically well-planned, the benshi super funny and on-point, and all just for a members-only screening.

i think my favourite thing about the film was the excellent number of shots of hats.

snapchats and tattoos (c sharp major), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:14 (eleven years ago) link

I was! I feel lucky, a mate of mine is in a band with Tomoko and is a member so he had a jump on tickets. The musicians were great I agree, the shakuhachi player is the venerable Clive Bell who writes for The Wire.

I didn't expect the jaunty little 'hail and well met' dance routines in this film, I'd assumed wrongly that it was a student thing, I wonder if Japanese dudes actually *did* that in the 20's?

ヘイシグ・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 07:46 (eleven years ago) link

hah, I reckon not any more than dudes in the US in the 30s spontaneously broke into song whenever they had an emotion.

snapchats and tattoos (c sharp major), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 08:17 (eleven years ago) link

Good point, I guess I'm just not used to having to suspend my disbelief with Ozu.

ヘイシグ・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

big retro in NYC, June 7-27

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

To this day the only one I've seen is Good Morning but my god what a delightful film!

hoda nkotb (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 13:15 (eleven years ago) link

that one might be my favorite

it's the only ozu film with a shart joke that's for sure

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

"I wonder if Japanese dudes actually *did* that in the 20's?"

probably not, but the correct question is, "wouldn't it have been delightful if they did?"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

it's the only ozu film with a shart joke that's for sure

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:48 AM (54 seconds ago)

if my japanese instructor is any indication, older japanese people think farts are the funniest thing in the world.

love's secret borad (clouds), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

not just a shart joke btw but REOCCURING shart joke

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I just watched early summer. lovely stuff.

you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

not just a shart joke btw but REOCCURING shart joke

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:22 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

looks like i've been giving Ozu the short shrift all this time

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

I think you mean "the shart shrift."

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

l'esprit de l'escalier strikes again!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 08:48 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Which ones are you thinking about seeing? (if any)

Also, I've only just discovered that there are a fair number of early Ozu works on YouTube.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link

whatever's hard to see

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

...like yesterday, his earliest extant film, the collegiate ski-trip comedy (!!!) Days of Youth (1929). Then I find out it's on YouTube. About 20 mins too long, but if you want to see him handle pratfalls and getting-paint-on-your-hands gags....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMnXHaZJKZ4

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link

lots of visual gags w/ ski poles IIRC

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link

Chishu Ryu is one of the students, but I didn't spot him.

In one scene the boys are trying to groom one of their number using a Gary Cooper movie-mag photo.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link

i did spot chishu ryu when i saw this, but it's tough--he looks incredibly young.

i love all the americanophilia in this and other early ozu films

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link

Has anyone here read Adam Mars-Jones' Noriko Smiling? seems like it might be an interesting bit of criticism...

✌_✌ (c sharp major), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link

Film

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

GAH

Film Forum is showing all the extant silents, what shd I see? Long ago saw Floating Weeds & I Was Born But...

http://sporadicscintillations.blogspot.com/search/label/Yasujiro%20Ozu

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

a commmenter on MUBI ranks them thusly

1. An Inn In Tokyo (1935)
2. A Story Of Floating Weeds (1934)
3. Passing Fancy (1933)
4. Tokyo Chorus (1931)
5. I Was Born, But… (1932)
6. Woman Of Tokyo (1933)
7. A Mother Should Be Loved (1934)
8. I Flunked, But… (1930)
9. Where Now Are The Dreams Of Youth? (1932)
10. Dragnet Girl (1933)
11. The Lady And The Beard (1931)
12. That Night’s Wife (1930)
13. Days Of Youth (1929)
14. I Graduated, But… (1929)
15. Walk Cheerfully (1930)
16. Fighting Friends (1929)
17. A Straightforward Boy (1929)

http://mubi.com/topics/days-of-youth-1929-an-ozu-film-i-did-not-like-at-all

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link

the correct answer of course is that you should see all of them

the ones you shouldn't miss IMO are

1. An Inn In Tokyo (1935)
3. Passing Fancy (1933)
4. Tokyo Chorus (1931)
5. I Was Born, But… (1932)
6. Woman Of Tokyo (1933)
9. Where Now Are The Dreams Of Youth? (1932)
10. Dragnet Girl (1933)

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

ozu's 1933 is like ford's 1939 if you know what i mean

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

I liked That Night's Wife quite a lot. Haven't seen any of the others aside from I Was Born, But... and the existing fragment of I Graduated, But...

Home Despot (WilliamC), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

yeah, that night's wife is impressive.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

wrestling with the "canonization" of Tokyo Story:

http://thefilmstage.com/features/tokyo-story-hits-criterion-blu-ray-questioning-a-canonical-classic/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link

Lol at

This, mind you, is not another “young philistine with little wit thinks he’s too cool for the canon” piece.

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

Clicked through to Bergman thing too.

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

It's not my favorite – the reissues of the last 10 years have changed it – but it's daft to say it's not one of his best

(about to read)

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

Life of Oharu on DVD at last -- got my copy today.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link

The Ozu thread.

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link

that's what I get from mobile posting lol

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link

What about Tokyo Story, by Kurosawa?

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link

ehhhh not as good as Naruse's The Alamo.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

> Life of Oharu

i saw it on dvd about 4 years ago. was available (region 2) via Artificial Eye "DVD Release Date: 26 April 2004", then OOP for a while. bought the criterion version last month, region 1...

koogs, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link


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