― dave q, Sunday, 26 January 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― thuddd, Sunday, 26 January 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ron (ron), Sunday, 26 January 2003 17:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ahem, Sunday, 26 January 2003 17:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
With all of those sadistic nurses and doctors? The sounds of their rubber-soled shoes on the lineoleum as they come for you - the scents of Lysol and rubbing alcohol - the dull, off-pastel greens and browns of the walls - the acoustic ceiling tiles - all of the metalic pipes and tubings and bed frames and icy-cold tables and the shiny medical devices - the cries from behind some of the doorways - the no-nonsense attitude of the nurses, with their white stockings and perky hats that hide their sadistic power?
(Sorry, assisted in a Pro Dom's medical scene for a client, once. I love the details we ended-up including.)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― becky lucas (becky_lucas), Sunday, 26 January 2003 21:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 26 January 2003 21:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 26 January 2003 21:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
what, prey, does "dk" stand for in the above statement exactly??
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 27 January 2003 00:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 27 January 2003 07:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 27 January 2003 07:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 27 January 2003 07:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 27 January 2003 07:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 January 2003 09:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Monday, 27 January 2003 09:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 27 January 2003 09:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Cause writing smut is mentally masturbating (like reading other people's fan fiction) and that's when the wacky weird physical stuff comes out. Which I am not going to discuss here, go read it on the web if you can find it! (clue: google "jackson bollocks")
Actually physically masturbating (If Suzy says "Punninshing Percy in the Palm" one more time, I'm going to smack her) ... it's far more boing mundane stuff. I tend to think about specific people rather than specific acts. Really dull, conventional relationship stuff like "Oh, we'll fall madly in love and move into a giant loft in Hackney and write beautiful spacerock free-drone guitarkestras and make conceptual art together and I'll write songs and thinly disguised novels about how brilliant he is and people will think I'm brilliant for expressing the brilliance of him and the brilliance of our brilliant thing together and then we'll win the Turner Prize, and it'll be better than a Grammy... better than a Grammy... a Grammy... a Grammy... uuuuhhhhh...
― kate, Monday, 27 January 2003 10:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 27 January 2003 10:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
But that's a gender cliche... whatever.
I'm on the "fantasise about things I haven't" side. Which probably explains why I don't tickle the clam much any more... :-(
― kate, Monday, 27 January 2003 10:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 10:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 January 2003 11:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― erik, Monday, 27 January 2003 11:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 11:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― smee (smee), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― smee (smee), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 12:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― smee (smee), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― smee (smee), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― smee (smee), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Monday, 27 January 2003 13:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Look, Marcello, I don't want to turn this into a big fight but it was a flippant comment about an amusing subject on a joke thread, and I'd expected it to be taken as such.
Obviously if you'd said "i cannot. i have too much guilt to cope with. doing it alone would only make me feel even lonelier than i already am", at the start I wouldn't have said anything - of course not, it would've been crass and insensitive. Maybe it was anyway and if so I apologise, but it's ridiculous to portray it as some sort of malicious personal slight. I would've given the same response to anyone here.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 27 January 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 27 January 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
Do you want to know about guilt? Want to know what it's like getting the urge, not having had any for eight months, and yet stopping yourself even from self-pleasure because you are consumed by guilt? Because it's still crystal clear in your mind when you last did it with someone FOR REAL, and doing it by and to yourself becomes nothing more than a substitute for a life that's destroyed, like everything else surrounding me in my fucking house? Because there's a reminder of what you've lost every way you look when you open your eyes in the morning? Because I do not want to engage in sexual activity unless it involves another person and involves some element of love and affection?
That is how I have to live, Matt. Please try and understand that.
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 January 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 27 January 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gi66y, Monday, 27 January 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 27 January 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
I used to fantasise about things I'd never done, and was pretty certain that I'd never get the chance to do (various sorts of group sex things). Then I did get the chance to do about 90% of them. The odd thing, and I have no real explanation for this, is that my fantasies (and taste in porn) are unchanged, as far as I can tell. It's still the same stuff, but now I've done most of it.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 27 January 2003 21:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 27 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 27 January 2003 22:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 27 January 2003 22:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Exactly. You don't know, though I'm surprised you don't know as it's been exhaustively documented here and elsewhere. So don't start making judgements until you do know. Got it?
It seems to me that frequently you make deliberately argumentative posts (or posts consisting simply of curt disagreement with little explanation), with the intention to simultaneously jump on your high horse and pounce on anyone who responds.
No, get it right and read this thread again. For the SECOND time on this thread I state: I made a completely innocuous contribution to this completely innocuous post, and as I have said A MILLION TIMES BEFORE, if someone comes and starts to have a go, I have a go back. Do you have a problem with that? You prefer to stand and take punches and shit without fighting back?
I mean
Starting a sentence with "I mean" indicates that you don't know what you mean.
Yet, you still are consistently having what appears to be deeply emotional and somewhat unhealthy reactions to fairly innocuous posts or threads
Oh I do beg your pardon. I forget that posters on ILx aren't allowed to get emotional. What's your definition of "unhealthy reactions" then? Do you equate it with "doesn't agree with us/wants to spoil our fun"?
Still, who cares? We've had this argument a thousand times on ILx. And the way in which Doomie was treated on the other thread was appalling.
But what does it matter, Andrew? ILx, and the "lives" of everyone who posts to it, is just one big masquerade anyway, isn't it?
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 09:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
Still, carrying on this discussion can have no positive outcome, this argument has taken place so many times on ILE and I have no desire whatsoever to rehash it. Neither, I suspect, does Marcello.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 09:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
Don't be such a pompous arse.
"if someone comes and starts to have a go, I have a go back"
Well nobody was having a go at anyone, and the mood of this thread was entirely jovial until you brought your own personal problems into it (in your second post). Suddenly everything has to get all serious just because you feel like it. It sucks.
― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Not since that incident with the bungee cord.
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 01:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ahmed, Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 8 November 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 9 November 2003 09:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 9 November 2003 10:05 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 9 November 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
But the thread is simply called, "What do you think about when you masturbate?" (not "What do you fantasize about...") -- and I do know women who've told me that they think about specific past sexual experiences they've had. That's why I was speculating that it was perhaps more of a female thing to do.
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 9 November 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 9 November 2003 22:05 (twenty years ago) link
― ChasWindsor, Sunday, 9 November 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Dee Sah Mon (Kingfish), Sunday, 9 November 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 November 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link
onto wanking....Angelina Jolie...Hmmmmmmmm
― smileygiles, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 15:40 (twenty years ago) link