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I've just seen what Graham has done to the "Anarchy" board that was set up a few days ago. Nice one.

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For those of you who didn't see it before there were a couple of threads or so asking about peoples opinions on race and a thread linking to a piece about why whites were better than blacks.

I feel the need to apologise on behalf of AAD as I think what has happened is this -

A few days ago the guy who started posting html wierdness all over the old Ask A Drunk found the new one. He's apologised and been ok but he seems to have dragged a troll along with him (just like episode 3 of season 6 of Buffy) who set up the Anarchy board and starting posting racial / personal abuse on the new Ask A Drunk.

He started a new thread:-
WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF THE AMERICAN DREAM?...

and started to troll like a trooper on it. It was fine for a while (fun with morons is a good game), but he ended up insulting somebody with

"Sure was you dumb fucking bitch. Anyways if you don't know the language go the fuck back.
Good thing there is a war on, and that women can join the military.
Because alot of dumb shit bitches like you are CANNON FODDER"

Which I kind of thought was a bit over the line, especially as he was retorting to the persons first or second ever post.

I kinda feel a bit shitty for deleting a message (free speech, who the fuck am I? etc.) and am a bit embarrased that this guy has turned up here on our account. Grrr. What to do?

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 15:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

the one thing i dont get about free speech/censorship is this: as far as i see it, it is the internet that is free speech, not necessarily components within. it is not actually possible to censor anybody here, because they are quite capable of making their own site. their free speech has not been compromised in the slightest. i can stop somebody from writing on my site, i am not censoring them though, they are quite welcome to do it somewhere else.

ultimately, its moderators decision, i have no say, and cannot argue one way or another. as far as i see it, andrew is letting his server be used, and the moderators are doing a lot of work in keeping the site running, so it would be churlish for me to throw toys out of the pram one way or the other.

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 15:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah I agree. The persistance of this guy troubles me though. If he's the guy I think he is he has been posting abuse to the old AAD continuously for months now, even though there is pretty much no-one there to read it. His first post to the old AAD still makes me laugh:-
"I come from All Things Final Fantasy 2, I come in anger and hatred" or something like that. Wooooo. Scary.

What bugs me is I know I should just leave people like that alone but they do annoy me. I think I need a hot chocolate or something nice to cheer me up.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://tubes.ominix.com/art/a/food/cup-hot-chocolate-cocoa-marshmallows.png

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Awww here's a *hug*, feel any better?

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Momus once said Gareth's line was akin to saying 'Sure I'm chucking you out of this bar for being black but there are plenty of other bars you can go to'. I didn't really agree but it made me think for a minute.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

I fucking hate analogies like that. (Shocker.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

well maybe momus can say that once he lets other people write the content to his site. i suggest he starts off with letting pat buchanan write the next momus piece

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

(The reason why I hate that analogy: it presumes that the black person being thrown out is really, really desperate to stay and talk to the racists. It also equates being black with being an annoying troll.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

This was the thread

In any case, as was said way back then, Momus' analogy just didn't work, because he was equating exclusion based on ethnicity with exclusion based on behaviour.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cheers! Feeling better already. My thoughts wind back to Chris De Burgh album covers and cutting up the news into a hardcore lyric stylee!

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, the analogy would work better if it was throwing a drunk and abusive person out of a bar. Remember its not who he is we are throwing out, it is what he is doing.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

But who are you to decide who is drunk and abusive (or what consitutes an undesirable skin colour)? One man's abusive is another man's 'passionate'.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Incidentally, I think Momus had to concede that he was prepared to honour the right of people to heckle throughout his shows.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll remember that the next time I see him live. "Play some Happy Family! "The Salesman"! "March in Turin"!".

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

"GETCHER TITS OUT!"

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Out Perry, out of my bar with your lewd behaviour which I note incidentally has nothing to do with the colour of your skin.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

HEY MAN STOP LIMITING MY FREE SPEECH (WHICH IS FREE)!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

You can have all the free speech you like in one of those other bars that allow free speech. We only allow free speech that we agree with round here.

Anyway, you wouldn't like my tits.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

So when is Pete going to say "Out you pixies go!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

When Kim, Joey, Dave and Frank overstay their welcome I suppose.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is close though -

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/21/1042911368678.html

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"One man's 'abusive' is another man's 'passionate'."

That's frickin' classic.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, he's dealt with per se. He started going on about mexican immigrants so I referred him to the fact that in a few decades there will be more Spanish speakers than English ones in the US. Then purported the idea that it is very likely his grandchildren will be swept of their feet by a sultry latin lover at the prom. So he comes back with the frighteningly eloquent "Suck my dick stupid cuntface". Then I wrote a little sketch of the grandchild / latin lovers fictional conversation. In Spanish.

He might not go away but dang I feel better.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

How did he know what your face looks like?

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

you really got under his skin - that was hilarious!

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

heheh, Lynskey.

I totally agree with you deleting posts/closing the board. Nothing's stopping the guy from going out, starting his own "I Hate ILXor and Mexican Immigrants and Dumb Bitches" board but there's no code of ethics that says we have to let him stay here. Agreed with others about the behavior vs physical attributes.

― That Girl (thatgirl), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wasn't the one who deleted his board, but I probably would of if I'd've had the chance. If he comes back again I'm sure myself and my fellow drunks will find even more stupid ways of annoying him. Fun with morons. Great game.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 01:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, I actually hope he come back now.

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 05:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

He seems a little defeated. Oh well "fucking idiot liberals" 1 "king of the world" 0

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

twenty-one years pass...

i like anarchists because even though they have the WHOLE chair to sit on they only sit on a little bit of it. and THAT is how you make the planet smaller for everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6X_uSFAD_A

― scott seward, Saturday, 6 July 2024 16:28 (two months ago) link

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