who in this bitch reads robert jordan? -- The Wheel of Time thread

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see, i told you i have no shame.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

tho i have never read the conan books.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck you.

, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

???

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link

does it distress you that i had the words "shame" and "robert jordan" in the same thread? are you upset that i call myself a fan though i haven't read the conan books? or are you just really angry that i like robert jordan at all?

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

hmmmmm... whos online right now what hates my guts?

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Gave up after Crown of Swords.. actually, gave about about a third of the way into Path of Daggers.

One big fuckin' soap opera, though the first few books were good.

ian johnson, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link

b-b-b-but don't you wan't to find out if moiraine comes back?

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I have the tenth book on order from the SFBC. I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

and don't you want to find out how rand al-thor will solve the dilemma of his harem?

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

ned you still get it.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

ned what is the next book going to be called?

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Has the general populous figured out who killed Asmodean yet?

Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i think i need to reread these babies before i buy the next one.

di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I forget the name of it, only saw it once.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Robert Jordan fell asleep beside me in the cinema once.

or maybe it was someone who looked like him.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The 10th one is called _The Crossroads of Twilight_, I think. Anyway, HELL YES I read these mamas.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Quite a while ago I posted up a really snarky question re s&s b00x, that I feel a bit guilty about now. Some mention of these books was made by folka. Actually, I think Di was one of them. I read a few of them a little while ago, and I did enjoy them a lot actually. I thought the doomed/pulled between good & evil main character was a bit of a rip of Elric (BTW, after Mark s' demolition job on Michael Moorcock, I realised that the whole premise of my original q was bullshit anyway, coz I'd read & enjoyed many of michael moorcock's books anyway) plus one of the female characters was really annoying (tho' believably so I thought) aaaaand the first chapter of the first one was so terrible that I almost got no further. What I liked:

1/ the whole premise of the story - the cataclysm that had happened in the very distant past, and all the repercussions at the time the story was set in was very convincing, and strange as well.

2/ the way that the way the people from the distant past lived and the nature of their society is revealed in this piecemeal manner was really very well done I thought. There was this bit where the protagonist gets a brief flash from the memories of all his ancestors, one after the other, going back to before the cataclysm. That was amazing!

3/er....other stuff as well. My memory has just stopped working properly.

However, someone I know saw what I was reading, and lent me this set of 4 books that he said was much better. er...(googles) "The Book of the New Sun" by Gene Wolfe. That was really outstanding, I thought. Has anyone read that one?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm on page 382 of Crossroads as we speak.

Like books 5 - 9, it also is frustratingly slow until about the 2/3 mark, and just when you're about to give up and say "screw it, I gotta get out!" it starts getting good, building momentum, and you read the last third in 1 or 2 nights.

I'd really like to discuss some of the things in this one, but I'm afraid of spoilin' it for y'all.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Hey Nick, can we talk about this one now? 'Cause nothing really cool happens until like the last page! Of course it's all been downhill since the last 50 pages of Lord of Chaos which are obviously the greatest writing written by anyone anywhere. Really.

adam (adam), Thursday, 23 October 2003 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"lord of chaos" sounds like it should be a hawkwind song.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 October 2003 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus, I haven't read, like, the last 2, or maybe the last 3. Should I bother? I enjoyed them (as noted above) but er.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 October 2003 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

They're really long and boring and nothing happens. Plus one looks like a total creep reading 'em on the bus. I get my kicks flirting with social pariahdom though--so thumbs up.

adam (adam), Thursday, 23 October 2003 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

the last page! crap i stopped reading in the middle of the last chapter.

i have been reading these books since junior high and i am now 24 - that is really depressing to realize.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 23 October 2003 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I read the first one when I wa what, 19? 20?

I'm now 30 (going on 31). Eek.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 October 2003 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

shiznit we must of started around the same time. (i remember seeing The Shadow Rising in hardcover around the time I read The Eye of the World. damn these books used to be good!)

i still have faith that the ending will (almost) redeem the series.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 23 October 2003 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i still haven't read that last one.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 24 October 2003 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

When they're all done, I'd be willing to pay the same amount of $$ over again for a version of the series that had an editor at the wheel, reining it in to clock out at about six books.

That said, the last two books have been the best since the first three or four, for my money -- but I didn't start reading until just before Path of Daggers came out, so I don't have the years of "what the fuck, when will you END IT, CONANBOY!" that a lot of folks have, so I might cut him more slack than I would otherwise.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 October 2003 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The odd thing is that I don't think his books have too much obvious filler/fluff--I mean, what subplots could be trimmed without bringing others crashing down?

adam (adam), Friday, 24 October 2003 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Tons! I mean, not in terms of removing chapters without altering other things, no, but most of books 4-8 or so are just moving pieces around. How much actually happens?

(Peanut Gallery chimes in with plot outline of books 4-8.)

Yeah, but how much actually happens? He kept adding more and more subplots instead of resolving -- and sometimes instead of even addressing -- old ones.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

(Take out all the times someone snorts, sniffs, or crosses arms under breasts and you've eliminated a book right there.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

it's amazing that people scoff at Michael Moorcock but then confess to reading CRAP like the Wheel Of Time.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

You are easily amazed.

LOOK OUT, SHOES!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

*makes a vexed sound*

teeny (teeny), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

OKAY WE GET IT THE DICE ARE ROLLING IN MAT'S HEAD GOD DAMNIT!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

(aka I think Tep has a good point)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

it's funny that whenever i meet someone else who reads these books all we do is bitch about them. good times!

if there is another book in the series where the main character BARELY FIGURES AT ALL then i may give up

ryan (ryan), Friday, 24 October 2003 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Without the repetitive easy characterization (crossing, sniffing, etc)RJ's characters wouldn't be anything besides names--he's not really one for soul-delving.

Anyway the longer the series gets and the longer the books get the whole shebang becomes more of a sick joke played on the nerds of the world--Jordan's gonna die and spawn a whole frightening genre of finish-WOT fanfic.

adam (adam), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

My theory is that he's already written the last book and that he's just drawing the series out until he dies, and then when they mysteriously unearth the final book posthumously BINGO he's a legend.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

So long as you don't mean that BINGO in the Chris V sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

it's funny that whenever i meet someone else who reads these books all we do is bitch about them

SO TRUE.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 25 October 2003 08:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually if anything there's too much soul-searching in these books obv. Wasn't the last book just 95% people going "oh there was a big bang! I wonder what it could be?? How does it tie into all of my neuroses??? What? You say I should just speak to some of the other characters in the book who I can talk to anytime I like by travelling to their location, at which point not only will I learn the source of that big bang but I will solve all the emotional problems that have resulted from not talking to people??? What a crazy idea!

I loyally read this series cos I started 13 years ago, but it's beginning to try my patience.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 26 October 2003 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe it's a metaphor for the Internet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 October 2003 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

too much sniffing, toomuch snorting, too much angst by Rand over his harem, too many refernces to sheepfarming, dice rolling, not enuf action and too many years in between each book. that said, i will continue reading tho i will probably be 40 by the time it ends.

i need to muster up the energy to order the last one actually.

H (Heruy), Sunday, 26 October 2003 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just patiently waiting for that final book to finally emerge. And then I'll actually read the series. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 October 2003 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man, and if this wasn't enough, I just found out there's a three book PREQUEL series he's working on too! The first one comes out early next year and is an expansion of that "New Spring" story that appeared in the Legends anthology. More info.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 October 2003 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

AAAAAAA FUCK FUCK FUCK YOU FUCKING JORDAN FUCK DON'T YOU KNOW THE RULES ABOUT FINISHING JUST ONE FUCKING SERIES FUCK!!!!

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 26 October 2003 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

*signs up for preorder*

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 26 October 2003 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, apparently book 11 hasn't even been started yet! And he'll work on book number two of this series after book 11 is done! And...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 26 October 2003 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i love how the poll on that page is "who is the most annoying character?"

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 26 October 2003 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

also i had to search online to make sure that perrin did the very bad thing as opposed to pulling short and simply watching her die from other wounds

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 November 2021 06:37 (one week ago) link

Ive been busy, will catch these as and when

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2021 09:20 (one week ago) link

this was...consistently mediocre

I assume "best actor" is the guy who plays Mat? Everyone else had strong "these are the words in the script and I am reading them" energy.

It is a *long* time since I read any of the books and most of what I remember has already happened, so I'll enjoy the ride until it inevitably gets cancelled.

bespoke sausages (seandalai), Sunday, 21 November 2021 13:40 (one week ago) link

Crossposted from Ned's FB post, a few thoughts...

1. Rand and Mat both seem much less likable than than in the books, though, (SPOILERS) Rand obviously becomes more of a dick as things go along.

2. Hated Thom's song and the corny guitar theme they play when he's about to enter the frame. Music in general is not great but I guess it could be worse.

3. Myrddraal good and scary. very good job.

There are certainly some obvious fantasy cliches, as my wife who has never read the books pointed out, but there's not much the TV creators can do about that. I think it's really good tbh. Or at least a lot better than I thought it would be.

ian, Sunday, 21 November 2021 16:57 (one week ago) link

There are some things, I wonder how well telegraphed they were to an audience unfamiliar with the books? Does the casual viewer have any understanding of what happened to Mat at Shadar Logoth? Again, I haven't read the books in decades, and maybe the reader doesn't understand shit at his point either, but i dunno man.

Whitecloaks are good cuz I hate them.

ian, Sunday, 21 November 2021 16:58 (one week ago) link

I am enjoying this but also I’m furious about Perrin

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Sunday, 21 November 2021 22:45 (one week ago) link

lol. at least it will presumably save us hundreds of pages' worth of axe vs. hammer whining

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 November 2021 23:05 (one week ago) link

Yeah I don't particularly like the Perrin plot change but I can see the reasoning behind it. So far it has only meant that the actor sits there looking like he is deeply constipated but things could improve from this point.

Tim F, Sunday, 21 November 2021 23:07 (one week ago) link

always love a maria doyle kennedy appearance

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 November 2021 23:09 (one week ago) link

Good irish casting from what i can see overall

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 November 2021 23:14 (one week ago) link

Okay, my thoughts generally:

1. So far, about as good as I reasonably expected. Pacing feels all over the place but that is kind of inevitable, as is the frequent clunkiness of dialogue and intermittent failure to explain what is actually going on.

2. The adjustments to the stories of various of the characters seem like logical responses to the clear challenge of how to make some of these characters interesting who otherwise don't really do much in the first book. Apart from finding the dagger, Mat is a non-entity in the first book; Perrin has a great POV stretch but you'd never know he was interesting without being in his head. I think the show has mixed success in responding to these difficulties: they've successfully transformed Mat from the least interesting character to the most (obviously in the books Mat starts to become excellent from about book 3 and especially book 5); Perrin so far is a bit wait-and-see but I can see what they're trying to do. In some ways the adjustments to Mat's character are more subtly dramatic which is perhaps why they work more effectively at least initially.

3. Rand and Egwene, despite having the most screen time initially, are perhaps the least developed, which kind of makes sense given the intention appears to be to set them up as, effectively, duelling protagonists who are at once connected and opposed and who probably each get less likeable and more complicated as they go along. Both actors seem fine.

4. Nynaeve's character and actor do a lot with a little so far. The way the Nynaeve / Lan relationship is being set up seems fun.

5. I'm a bit surprised by how clearly they have set up some of the cosmic/philosophical questions that only come into view in the final few books. The nihilist worldview expressed by the darkfriend in episode 3 was a big surprise but I cautiously approve - makes the question "what do the evil forces actually want" a much more interesting issue than it was for at least the first few books - whereas Tam's short speech on reincarnation in episode 1 is basically a foreshadowing of the books' effective moral resolution in The Gathering Storm (if the show ever gets that far, I'm sure it will flashback to Tam's speech at that point).

6. Conversely, I do not like the implied adjustment to Ishamael's backstory. This is a much bigger deal to me than the whole "anyone, male or female, can be the dragon" adjustment which the fanbase (predictably and depressingly) is more upset about.

7. We definitely need more Moiraine backstory or to see more from her POV (and I suspect we're going to get one or both soon). Her general air of mystery feels a bit unearned and generic-fantasy at this point.

8. Totally approve of the whitecloaks' beefed-up menace, though the distinction between Eamon and Geofram's attitudes to Aes Sedai isn't really explained.

Tim F, Monday, 22 November 2021 00:02 (one week ago) link

There are some things, I wonder how well telegraphed they were to an audience unfamiliar with the books? Does the casual viewer have any understanding of what happened to Mat at Shadar Logoth? Again, I haven't read the books in decades, and maybe the reader doesn't understand shit at his point either, but i dunno man.

Yeah, in the books you don't know he has taken the dagger until a bit later, and then you don't know the consequences of him having done so until later still. In the books he just seems to become really bitter and twisted and suspicious for no particular reason (or alternatively, the best reason is just the reaction to being on the run and feeling lost and abandoned and thinking everyone else is probably dead).

I think they're following that arc reasonably closely, at least based on the character's behaviour in episode 3.

More problematic to my mind was the failure to even say briefly what mashadar even was, though maybe they'll add some retrospective exposition when the dagger plotline plays out.

Tim F, Monday, 22 November 2021 00:06 (one week ago) link

Arah we hardly ever find that out anyway tbf

The question of what a darkfriend is and what they want is well and truly botched by the time we get to the last battle anyways

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2021 00:36 (one week ago) link

the fact that mashadar appeared the instant mat unsheathed the dagger would seem to be telling, but since i've read the books i have no idea how obvious that would be to a new viewer

man, liandrin's face is *wide*

mookieproof, Monday, 22 November 2021 01:34 (one week ago) link

The question of what a darkfriend is and what they want is well and truly botched by the time we get to the last battle anyways

― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 22 November 2021 00:36 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Haha yeah well the last battle kind of abandons the notion of traditional darkfriends entirely - it's all shara channelers and vampire aiel and balefire destroying reality by that point.

But it was weird to hear a darkfriend in the show espouse a worldview basically limited to ishamael / moridin.

Tim F, Monday, 22 November 2021 03:32 (one week ago) link

i read about half of the first book earlier this year, then abandoned it even though i was enjoying it well enough. i didn't having the commitment to reading all of them, and figured, why not just watch it on television instead!

which brings me here tonight. i don't really binge shows much but i watched all 3 in a row. not all the performances were great and i kind let out a little lol when the shadow was spreading in Shadar Logoth, not just because it looked like splatoon 3 but also the realization that the seemingly unstoppable evil force was going to be suddenly stymied at a border for at least the third time in three episodes. there was also the trollocs who can't swim, the trollocs who were afraid to enter Shadar Logoth (which, makes sense there I guess). it's not a big deal, it's just kind of funny.

the part where perrin and egwene meet the deadheads is around the time i abandoned the book. and also there was a cool dogwolfman - looking forward to that for sure

just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 November 2021 03:54 (one week ago) link

I like this. I have minor quibbles, but I'm mostly into it so far. Nynaeve is probably the best acting of the bunch so far, but I'm excited to see more of Padan Fain - feel like that actor is going to have fun with the role.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 November 2021 05:11 (one week ago) link

man, liandrin's face is *wide*

This was excellent casting and also this statement made me lol

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2021 17:46 (one week ago) link

My non reader brother’s favourite character: Nynaeve
Why: “she’s better than everybody else”

— ciara📖 (@emmacarstairsgf) November 21, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2021 20:40 (one week ago) link

Good to see some things translated well to the new medium

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2021 20:52 (one week ago) link

15 mins in and what the fuck is this

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:04 (one week ago) link

Look we'll get to the changes later, and the music on ilm, but whats with the terrible sound mix with the dialogue

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 November 2021 21:32 (one week ago) link

Think the cleverness of "anyone might be the dragon" lasts ok at first glance but as a very specific contributor to the underlying gender/magic politics and history im not sure they havent screwed up things a bit with it

Perrin/Mat backstories might make it easier for this rafe lad to jump things forward quickly but it's significant disimprovement on the patience you'd have hoped for- part of the energy of the first few books is the slow reveal and the very open feel of what might be happening as the characters and situations emerge

In one way Im relaxed now because the divorce from the source material is so complete and strong already that theres no emotional heft to this after two episodes and i can just watch it until the surprisingly cheap FX get to me, if i get into it (and it has plenty of good points) then great if not then great, but a bit of a pity

Whatever about Perrin, whatever about sex scenes and swearing (bad indicators here as to whether our producers have a feel for or care about our books i feel) its a scandal how abell cauthon has been done so dirty

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 09:32 (six days ago) link

Mainly i want to go on holidays to slovenia

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 09:34 (six days ago) link

The books more or less ruined fantasy for me when I was twelve.

Early in the fourth volume I realized Robert Jordan had no plan for how to finish the story, and I lost my taste for the genre. Giving up on a novel has never felt better.

It was so unsurprising when Robert Jordan died with this shit incomplete, what was it... thirteen years later. But I did (and do) feel bad for everyone who had stuck with it only to be cheated out of an ending by the original author.

davey, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:23 (six days ago) link

XP darrahmac have you been to Slovenia before? I was lucky enough to visit a few years back and it was well worth the trip.

davey, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:29 (six days ago) link

The whole region is high on my list, never went further than landing in bratislava and immediately coaching to vienna (lol ryanair)

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 12:12 (six days ago) link

The books are worthy (better than this imo) through 6 and pick up again at *disputed book number here* but this os ofc a matter of personal taste

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 12:15 (six days ago) link

the western side of lake bohinj is one of the most beautiful places on Earth

(imo)

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 26 November 2021 18:04 (six days ago) link

yeah the landscapes are magnificent, nice one slovenia 👌🏻

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 November 2021 18:56 (six days ago) link

My non reader brother’s favourite character: Nynaeve
Why: “she’s better than everybody else”

— ciara📖 (@emmacarstairsgf) November 21, 2021

mookieproof, Friday, 26 November 2021 20:32 (six days ago) link

Episode three:

Matts a good actor, sells the somewhat grittier shorthand world/story they are giving us here

Darkfriend shouldnt have been asked the philosophy, it was hollow stuff and as discussed jordan himself wasnt much cop beyond "riches or threat" at that level.

Merrilins nick cave was as bad as feared but i like the rest of him

Getting into it

Herself likes it without having any investment in the books, she has enjoyed witcher and shadow and bone and i guess its in those wheelhouses (of time) pretty squarely, when i can remember not to wonder what (change x) will mean for (what i know about the books) im sure its simple, fast-paced enough fare

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:20 (six days ago) link

Arams irish accent is fucking nonsense

Which is impressive bad acting given hes irish

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:39 (six days ago) link

can already see that show vs darragh's reactions will be the real entertainment value here

that said i find it quite decent, and am taking bets on when orla brady will appear

mookieproof, Friday, 26 November 2021 23:21 (six days ago) link

Four eps in

This is good now, its own thing

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 23:24 (six days ago) link

They pronounce everything wrong, ofc

Maria Doyle Kennedy is, I think, trying for an irish traveller accent, i think thats a bit literal but a choice is a choice

Only just spotted merrillin as merlin whether thats just coincidence or jordan playing with names as is his wont or them pronouncing it that way (cf above) is hard to say

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Friday, 26 November 2021 23:27 (six days ago) link

End of episode 4 - that didn't happen in the books right

Agree on MDK's accent it's definitely not her normal one but it's not a traveller either it's like "imagine you're still Irish but you have a different accent good luck"

bespoke sausages (seandalai), Saturday, 27 November 2021 00:02 (five days ago) link

The paving on this show is so strange.

ian, Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:08 (five days ago) link

The pacing too.

ian, Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:11 (five days ago) link

crazy

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:35 (five days ago) link

pic.twitter.com/hGCpcjVq1d

— Assmodean (@AsmodeanChosen) November 30, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:30 (two days ago) link

i dont see an issue, and the potential was there, because of the extensive and immediate changes

Its not the books, nobody can mistake it for the books, wonder what theyll do with it

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 22:41 (two days ago) link

I'm actually enjoying that while I'm reasonably confident as to the broad outline of where things will go (i.e. I think a one minute summary of the show's overall plot ultimately will basically match an equivalent summary of the books) I can't be sure of the specifics.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:16 (yesterday) link

Yes, pretty much

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:21 (yesterday) link

Disappointment: various kingdoms and lands are just gonna be transposed eg spain

In my head while reading its a lot freer, and its important imo to have the national/ethnic/whatever entities not shorthanded to the familiar

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:26 (yesterday) link

Disappointment: various kingdoms and lands are just gonna be transposed eg spain

In my head while reading its a lot freer, and its important imo to have the national/ethnic/whatever entities not shorthanded to the familiar

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:26 (yesterday) link

episode 4 was v exciting!

rand seems like such a smoothbrained idiot, i really dont care for the character or the actor at all so far

everyone else v good, no complaints yet

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 01:20 (yesterday) link

i have to say, i really love the CGI scenes where moraine is doing some incredible spell and lan is tromping around the spell's area effect, kicking ass like it's Diablo II

skull. kneel. kneel. kneel. kneel. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 01:34 (yesterday) link

The bad news is that this contravenes major elements of the magic and world as written in several serious and important ways the good news well the producers liked it too i guess

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 01:40 (yesterday) link

wait, why can't moraine charge up and do her cool magic spells?

skull. kneel. kneel. kneel. kneel. (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 02:46 (yesterday) link


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