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This is a thread about the films of Gus Van Sant. A while ago now, Gus made Drugstore Cowboy, one of my favourite movies of all time, a movie that inspired me (and still inspires me) to try and make films of my own. Gus also made My Own Private Idaho-this has it's detractors, but is also a beautiful, poetic, and profound film. Since then Gus has made Even Cowgirls Get The Blues (nice try), To Die For (disappointing/maybe underrated?), Good Will Hunting (likeable but actually shit), Psycho (a "curio"), and Finding Forrester (UNFORGIVEABLE). I have not seen his new film, though some say it is a return to form. I also own his book Pink, but I have never read it-I have owned it for three years. I no longer know what to think of Gus, but I hope he will one day make a film half as good as Drugstore Cowboy. Gus also plays in a band called Destroy All Blondes.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 13:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic for jizzing inside river phoenix

Queen G (Queeng), Thursday, 19 December 2002 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

My POV is that the combination of Hollywood and Gus Van Sant could not possibly make a film as good as Drugstore Cowboy. He is caught in the Hollywood dynamic. He has tasted money and success. He is doing a job any film school graduate would kill for. His films are seen by millions of people, instead of a few hundred thousand. And all he has to do is make a few more compromises in return for all these privileges. So nowadays he makes mostly OK, fairly popular films, likes his work and gets along fabulously within the Hollywood system.

Who of us can look in his own heart and blame him?

Aimless, Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

You may as well read Pink; it will only take you an afternoon and it's not only entirely competent but has a pleasant and memorably unique aesthetic to it.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Really? Did I mention I still have The Corrections to read?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nordiskillaz is OTM, ha! I think his new film involves a screenplay by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, or otherwise involves them, and is most likely to be more of the same crap that he has been churning out since he jumped the shark with Even Cowgirls Get the Blues/To Die For, which were still no portent of the even more horrible things to come. Has anyone seen his first hour long feature? I would luv to see that. Have we all noticed how indepted he is (was!) to Andy Warhol? Why does he have to suck?

Mary (Mary), Friday, 20 December 2002 03:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mary-Thanks.I think that is called Mala Noche, black and white, expressionistic, a gay love story.Meant to be good. You can't see it anywhere

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 20 December 2002 12:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mala Noche was great, it was so more black than white, actually so depressive that it made you laugh, OTT 80s gloom. I never cared much for the rest, but I have to see Drugstore Cowboy yet.

erik, Friday, 20 December 2002 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ooh I really want to see Mala Noche now; I think I read somewhere that it was coming out on dvd, or playing at a festival, or something...

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 21 December 2002 06:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

THE SOUTH STILL MOURNS FOR GUS VAN SANT! FREE BIRD FOREVER!!1

Dan I., Saturday, 21 December 2002 07:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really like 'To Die For', I'd say it's one of my favourites.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 21 December 2002 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Mike Pitt to star in GVS's Niravana-inspired film

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 28 March 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
so i caught good will hunting on tv last weekend. it was the first time i'd seen it since 1997, and to my great surprise, i enjoyed it tremendously. i'm curious as to ilx's opinion?

on paper there's lots to despise (ie. warm tones and elliott smith soundtrack predates/predicts fetal rock/emo boom, robin williams in maudlin mode, "how dya like them apples", its launching of the hydraheaded damon/affleck monster) but in practice i found it well-written, capably-acted and surprisingly engrossing. the funny thing is that i can't remember a single person disliking this film when it came out, and now i'd have a hard time finding anyone who rates it. has your relationship with it changed? and if so, why?

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

my predictions: adam will hate this now even more than he did in 2002, slocki will slag it, amateurist will be sympathetic to parts but ultimately disdainful.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked it when it came out, haven't seen it since. I think people are likely to put it down because it's "feel-good" (though it really isn't) and because of what came of Ben Affleck. The Unabomber joke is hysteric, and it's also one of the few Hollywood films of recent years to directly deal with class issues.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

For a mainstream film there are some unexpected subversive elements. The homosexual relationships are implied and subtle but THERE (Stellar Starsgaard's less-than-pedagogical interest in Damon; I like that shot of him patting Damon rather longingly on the shoulder) and the drunk bullshitting sections feel as lived-in as the best moments in Private Idaho and Cowboy.

In short, it's an honorable mainstream hit. I don't get some of the hate it inspires.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't get any of the homosexual overtones, but i suppose i can see how someone would.

was this considered a mainstream film at the time of its release? williams aside, none of the actors were particularly well-known.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a so-so fraud. "It's not your fault, Will..."

mainstream = 2 Oscars

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I like GERRY!

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Me too! Matt had way more chemistry with Casey than Ben.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

but morbius, surely something can become mainstream after the fact, or despite itself? i don't ever remember this being presented as van sant's play for mainstream attention. but then, i don't remember it getting nine academy award noms either (NINE), so what do i know.

how was the "it's not your fault" scene fraudulent?

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked it when it came out, haven't seen it since.

Same here, kinda. I did see it again a few years ago and still liked it.


was this considered a mainstream film at the time of its release? williams aside, none of the actors were particularly well-known.

There was a bit of buzz. I specifically remember my mom was watching an Oprah that featured Matt and Ben (and maybe Williams?) talking about GWH around the time of the release and she called me into the room to watch it, because she thought I might find it interesting.

sleep (sleep), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The scene as written as fradulent. It imitates every psychoanalyst-patient relationship filmed by Hollywood: Ordinary People, Prince of Tides.

Now, if the performances move you, that's a matter of taste.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Van Sant undoubtedly saw this as the, er, least indie-geared film of his career. But even I was shocked by the $150 million domestic gross and all the Oscar nods.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

It was a big-studio movie with syrupy music poured over it, and it was regarded as GVS's first paycheck movie by many of his previous fans (tho I'd semi-argue for "To Die For").

Alfred OTM, my understanding is that psychotherapy doesn't have "one-moment cures" like that. (I'm an Irish Catholic who embraces his guilt, so I've never tried it.) It's the equivalent of the"A-HA!" moment in artist biopics, where he discovers his style.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I remember being very, very surprised at all of its Oscar nominations. It seemed like it was a vaguely indie movie that broke through to wider audiences because of word of mouth. In late 1997, Affleck was known as the guy who was in Chasing Amy a few months back.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Certainly there can be one moment where things break down, a tipping point, etc., right? There were several sessions leading up to that, so it's not like it was an instant "cure."

xp

sleep (sleep), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I just remembered that my budding socialist college film-geek friend, who was openly disdainful of "mainstream culture," saw this when it came out and confessed to being moved to tears.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"It seemed like it was a vaguely indie movie that broke through to wider audiences because of word of mouth."

Quite so. I vividly remember during the Titanic box office lockdown that Good Will and As Good As It Gets were the top two and three films for many weeks.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

"fraudulent" is a strong and damning word. i'm skeptical of your attempt to use it so authoritatively! especially when it precedes blanket statements like this:

It imitates every psychoanalyst-patient relationship filmed by Hollywood

every single one? even what about bob? an incredible achievement!

my understanding is that psychotherapy doesn't have "one-moment cures" like that.

you're right! but only because psychotherapy doesn't preach "cures", period. or at least not in my experience. a better suited term might be "breakthrough". these tend to happen very fraudulently, sometimes in single moments, thanks to generous forces of accumulated pressure and/or anguish.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i guess the point i'm trying to make, in a very roundabout way, is that i didn't mind the breakthrough scene. sometimes actual life is cheesy too!

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

The context and form renders the scene fradulent. Remember the next scene? Damon finally decies to Wise Up, abandoning his buddy to Follow His Dreams.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

alfred are you the guy that drives everybody bonkers over on i love film?

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha. I'm the guy who drives everyone bonkers whenever the discussion turns to film.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Movies are fraudulent; i.e., THEY AREN'T REAL.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I still think it was presented to the audience as a 'cure.'

Robin Williams doing Dr Judd Hirsch, genius janitor who looks great shirtless gets the girl ... the triumph of this movie is that it was well-crafted enough not to get laughed off the screen.

I've never seen "Bob?" but I certainly prefer my shrink movies to be comedies.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Williams' cardigan even resembles Hirsch's!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The context and form renders the scene fradulent.

'fraudulent' in relation to what? your experience? or everyone's?

Remember the next scene? Damon finally decies to Wise Up, abandoning his buddy to Follow His Dreams.

you were expecting him to stay in boston... ? and if he were to leave, would you rather it were apropos of absolutely nothing? or is an action causing a reaction too 'hollywood'?

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

(btw, I think it's my film posts that inspire rabid hatred, not Alfred's)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

No one's hating on Hollywood, for God's sake. And last I checked no one's criticized Van Sant's decision to film this script. But let's face facts: it's very much a script written by two men who know more about other movies than about life; nothing wrong with that, especially when the results are as lively as GWH. But in a scene full of at least two or three other more memorable and emotional elements, the scene you want to highlight strikes me as the least effective.

(xpost)

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

*er, "in a MOVIE full of at least two or three other..."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Much of the current hate centers on how annoying Minnie Driver is.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

morbius originally brought that scene up, alfred! i'm intrigued because your criticisms of it are so strongly worded and at the same time very meandering! i'm just trying to understand where you're coming from here.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

My last post sums up how I feel about that scene. Like I said already, I neither hate the movie nor Hollywood.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

it's not your fault.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

n/a is the rightest on this thread.

Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

'good will hunting' was part of that general 'moment of miramax' c. 1997-8 aka the death of indie (in lots of ways An Good Thing). but i never saw the film.

it's funny, at the top of the thread it's all 'argh sell-out!' gvs has now 'gone back to his roots. does he now seem 'less fraudulent'?

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

up til Last Days, yeah.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i do like how this movie inspired the only truly funny scene in jay and silent bob strike back.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

wrt restless, i cant imagine what drew him to the material. has anyone seen/liked it?

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i just saw this & actually kinda really liked it? i think i would otm any critical takedown raised of it, because it's so cloying, almost entirely, in so many respects (overdone/cutesy/formulaic/sufjanwave) &c&c&c. & yet there are frequently parts that are quietly (rather than through the strength of the material), warmly affecting. there's a passage in which footage of the nagasaki a-bomb aftermath is accompanied by sensitive, sub-elliott smith, anonymous acoustic guitar musing, which does the work of going further than any absurdist criticism of what's terrible about touchy-feely modern teenage movies would feel compelled to go. & for all of that it was good. i feel like i ought to ps 'this movie is terrible', because it technically is, but that mattered less to me as its emotional charge deepened; as a film it kinda almost has the teenage naivete that teenagers in paranoid park are invested in (though is on another planet in terms of its accurate/thoughtful rendering of the teenagers), being so distant from a realism and so committed to a brief & romantic way of being.

i think it is meant as a young-adult thing for twilight fans, i guess, & there is something intriguing to me about GVS working in those confines.

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Sunday, 22 January 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

links on the late Harris Savides:

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-harris-savides-1957-2012

cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

I forgot how glowingly gutter-contrasty the b&w 16mm in Mala Noche. Also the chickenhawkish whiteboy clerk is preety plainly depicted as racist, tho he wouldn't cop to it (he bypassingly even mentions his "privilege" in 1984).

The teen who played his lust object was Native, not Mexican, and hence all his Spanish dialogue was dubbed.

My rewatch was inspired by this:

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/the-modern-breakthrough-of-mala-noche-628

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

this universally panned one, unveiled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQvC9V1eLsE

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

Looks fine with the sound off.

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

GERRY, an ambitious American independent film, premiered 15 years ago and was/is genuinely different.

— Vadim Rizov (@vrizov) July 7, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

always liked that one tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 8 July 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

new movie DON'T WORRY, HE WON'T GET FAR ON FOOT out this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYWrgLTNKP4

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

has Joaquin P been in any of his films since To Die For?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

nope

just looked JP's wiki to make sure, and am fucking shocked he is only 43

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

ok just watched the trailer, excellent use of John Lennon's "Isolation."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

It's going to be at Berlin, and I'm going. So now I'm trying to catch up on his filmography.

Did anyone see what will probably be called the Logan Paul one henceforth?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

did anyone see his new movie? I think it played here for a week tops

flappy bird, Monday, 10 December 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

got ok reviews, looks middling but serviceable. maybe the studio (amazon) didn't back it because they're worried Van Sant would be me too'd soon ( he has a reputation)?

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 10 December 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

he does?

flappy bird, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

ever see Mala Noche?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 December 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

I saw it at Berlin. There's a scene at an AA meeting where one character stands up and says how proud he is to have achieved mediocrity. Gus van Sant really seems to have taken that notion to heart...

Frederik B, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 11:41 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Boy, he's not getting much American distribution anymore, is he?

Anyway, he peaked early. His smaller 2000s-era "experimental" films don't hold up well, but I admire his insistence on investing his Hollywood capital in'em.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link

I'd maybe swap Milk and Elephant's spots but otherwise, otm. Paranoid Park def the best of that run.

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link

Gerry + Elephant is as good a one-two, one-year punch as any American director has managed in probably my lifetime.

forrest drumpf (Eric H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link

Elephant is his best

. (Michael B), Friday, 25 January 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link

I haven't seen Elephant since the Wednesday before Thanksgiving 2003, and it tends to live in my memory despite not thinking it was fully realized at the time.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link

pretty much exactly my experience, alfred. I've had a DVD of it for a while but never feel like revisiting it.

flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

Some things aren’t meant to be rewatched. In a good way. I don’t think I could bear it.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link

I've seen Elephant maybe 8 times. I've always found it utterly transfixing, despite the horror.

circa1916, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

Haven’t seen since the theater but just extremely sad but certain details have really stuck with me.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

It's my #1 from GVS

circa1916, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:11 (five years ago) link

xp the image that has never left me is the CU of the first girl with her brains blown all over the library stacks

flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

never felt like i could deal with 'elephant' but loved 'paranoid park' and 'last days'

na (NA), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

Haven’t seen since the theater but just extremely sad but certain details have really stuck with me.

The look the one girl gives the two mean girls in the bathroom after she runs in is one of those for me.

forrest drumpf (Eric H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link

I think To Die For is his best, followed closely by Elephant. Never got the appeal of Idaho

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

Boys II Men scene in Last Days is so good.

... (Eazy), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

I’m really interested in the fact that so many people can never revisit Elephant again while I’ve literally played it twice in a row on more than one night. The inevitable doom is crushing, but for whatever reason that dream take walk through that day with those kids makes it something beyond the ultimate tragedy. It’s a haunter that pierces some primal things for me.

circa1916, Saturday, 26 January 2019 08:36 (five years ago) link

circa1916 - I watched Elephant for the first time since 2003 per your post the other day. You're right, it's completely hypnotic, and less thoroughly terrifying. I could easily imagine watching it on a loop if it weren't for the shooting, which imo goes on too long, or takes up too much of the movie's time (forgot how short it is, only 80 minutes). But the kids are fantastic, excellent use of non actors and long, lingering takes. Many beautiful moments: closeup of the girl kissing Alex, the punk kids, everything with Michelle, Timothy Bottoms (!) as the dad at the end, the drawn out banal everyday trauma of an alcoholic parent faced with acute traumatic violence, him mildly putting his hand on his son's shoulder as they watch the school burn. also forgot about the Gerrycount game.

flappy bird, Friday, 8 February 2019 05:57 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

In 'c'mon folks, you could have also led with THIS too' news, the Ryan Murphy/FX publicity machine is doing everyone a disservice because I only just found out today that van Sant has directed the first four of eight episodes of Feud: Capote vs. the Swans, and maybe more too. You know, minor details!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 20:44 (three weeks ago) link

Whaaaat

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:53 (three weeks ago) link

I know, right! Jesus Christ, way to bury the lead!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 January 2024 17:46 (three weeks ago) link

Finished both S5 of Fargo and E1 of the Capote series today; couldn't help noticing the similarity between Jennifer Jason Leigh's jailhouse speech in Fargo and Diane Lane's reaction to "La Côte Basque" in The Swans.

clemenza, Saturday, 3 February 2024 06:33 (two weeks ago) link

Feud looks so fuckin good, Gus still king

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 February 2024 07:03 (two weeks ago) link

Gira is really branching out.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 3 February 2024 08:04 (two weeks ago) link

love diane lane

Swen, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

and chloeeeeee my heart

Swen, Saturday, 3 February 2024 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

Two episodes in. The performances are uniformly good, with so much opportunity for caricature. Enjoying the score, too--kind of new-agey classical. (Didn't get the Michael Gira joke above at first, so I checked to see if he'd done it...)

clemenza, Sunday, 4 February 2024 01:37 (two weeks ago) link

Flashing back to the '66 ball for the third episode was a great idea. Like a lot of people it seems, my first question was whether or not this Maysles Brothers film exists. Yes, sort of:

http://mayslesfilms.com/film/with-love-from-truman/

There was a book a few years ago about the ball that I read; truly fascinating snapshot of a moment.

clemenza, Monday, 12 February 2024 02:08 (one week ago) link

Watched the first ep and at least so far GVS is in for-hire mode here. Can't overcome the Ryan Murphy-ness of it all

Rich E. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 February 2024 15:12 (one week ago) link

Didn't like E4 as much as the first three, but I think two great performances are emerging. I love Capote and PSH--almost a comfort movie for me--but I think Tom Hollander might be even better, or at the very least benefits from his comparative anonymity. (PSH is such a presence for me, I don't think I can ever stop being entirely aware it's him.) And Naomi Watts is someone for whom I've always had an arm's-length appreciation, but I think she's so good here.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:50 (six days ago) link

episode 3 was pretty great

the way GVS recreated the Maysles style was so good, esp since there never was Maysles footage of the ball or anything! the only thing they ever did together irl was just a very short reel of interview w Truman in long island apparently

the ball looked amazing, and the side by side scenes of truman dancing alone then w his mother was so good

havent seen ep4 yet

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:02 (six days ago) link

E3 was a classic self-contained episode--I think you could enjoy it without watching the rest of the series.

clemenza, Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:03 (six days ago) link

Watts plays Babe Paley. The real-life version:

https://i.postimg.cc/vHYZfdXZ/babe.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:12 (six days ago) link


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