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They've finally started showing this in the UK. Should I be watching it?

NIck, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

oh so yes, and tell me sam isn't a little queer blossom waiting to happen.

Geoff, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah! Was a little disappointed to see the actor who plays Sam turn up on that lame Geena Davis sitcom. Hopefully you won't be getting that piece of shit over there any time soon.

I really wasn't expecting that hermaprodite bit, that was an interesting twist.

Arthur, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Bad Reputation", you know, kicks ass. Plus there is one really distorted-looking geek who is so ugly it's fascinating. The freaks are too stupid to be of real interest, though, and that is rather disappointing.

Simon, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I love it. Did all teenagers listen to The Who back in 1981 tho'?

Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Q: Do you consider the show timeless in its formulation of oddball teen social dynamic, or is it a period piece?

Benjamin, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hated it. Yet, if you take split it into it's main points of interest, all of which fail miserably, you have 3 or 4 shows I can enjoy watching: Malcom In The Middle, Square Pegs, That 70s Show and maybe a touch of The Wonder Years.

Nude Spock, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I don't see it as a period piece. Defintely not in a Wedding Singer "oh look weren't the eighties goofy" way. The first time I watched it I had no idea it was set in the eighties. I just didn't know why everyone was wearing such bad clothes.

Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Coming out on DVD in April, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 6 March 2004 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I hadn't even heard of it before I saw this thread, but I hate it already.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Saturday, 6 March 2004 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Revive since the DVD set is out. Wow. I'm not wowing the show -- I like it enough to watch it rented -- but the DVD release is amazing. Two commentary tracks for each episode, it looks like -- the pilot, for instance, has a secondary commentary done by a couple of cast members and a message-board-posting fan; the second episode has commentary by the cast members' real life parents; etc. Deleted scenes for every episode, at least on the two discs I've watched.

The $120 special edition boxed set even has table readings, for pete's sake.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

mine just arrived! it's packaged to look like a high school yearbook, with the discs slotted in amongst loads of photos and trivia and such. i'm going to be up all night.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link

going to store today!!!

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 8 April 2004 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

As far as the show itself: my only problems with it come down to the facts that I really don't like Busy Phillips (Kim, Lindsay's blonde friend) and I don't find the geek half of the show likeable or interesting. Everyone else on the freak half is good; Linda Cardellini and Seth Rogen are especially great; I love Biff-from-Back-to-the-Future as the gym teacher.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

agreed that kim is kind of annoying, but what?!? how can you not love neil and haverchuck?

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 April 2004 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

table readings!! i gotta get this

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

not that i'm a huge table reading fan or anything, i mean this just looks awesome

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

They just blend together for me. I don't dislike them, particularly, but they're more .... I don't know. "Cookie cutter" isn't quite right. They stand out less. (Mind you, I've only watched two discs, which is what, six episodes.)

xpost; slutsky, I thought the same thing, but $120!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i know! there's no way i can afford this. but i hope i can rent it somewhere

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost again; yeah, even the non-hugely-expensive set has great stuff on it (do we even get deleted scenes with many TV DVDs? the Alias sets have a couple, but this has them for every episode). The commentaries are really varied and good.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd rather have an Undeclared box set.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I had drinks with Haverchuk one night. He had a mohawk. BFF.

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Undeclared, there really should be a box set.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Tep OTM about the Freaks being better than the Geeks, probably why I liked Undeclared better.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I was about to say that, too, only with the me OTM bit. There was like that spree of college-related shows all at around the same time, and I guess it got lost in the shuffle.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

So this is the part where you talk me into/out of getting the 120 dollar vers

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i got it. it was my birthday present to myself. just looking at it is making me really, really happy.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

but IS IT WORTH IT???

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

yes.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

If I hadn't already spent money on DVDs lately, I'd probably get it, even though I'm not a devoted fan of the show. More sets like this need to come out. And hell, moneywise? It's only a little more expensive than the Sopranos and Star Trek sets, which have barely any extra features in comparison.

(Not to mention the hugely overpriced Prisoner discs.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

linda cardellini went to the same high school i attended, but was five years ahead of me. her locker was above my sister's and apparently she dated one of the two hottest guys in the school (the other one was his twin brother) and used to cry to him all the time because the shallow popular girls only wanted to hang out with her because of her looks and didn't take much notice of her personality and artistic ambitions...

i thought that was sort of a weird story.

waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the yearbook edition still available outside of eBay? I had heard that it was only offered to the people that signed the petition.

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm a dork. i signed the petition.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I just checked the website (which I should have done first) and the limited edition yearbooks are still available. HRMMM. This is causing me mental and physical stress.

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS EVER

but you're crazy to diss the beautiful and talented Busy Phillips. Whenever she would utter "Like I give a care," I'd fall in love all over again.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

actually, i think she did a good job with the role. kim is a bit irritating, though on purpose i assume. i liked the mixture of petulance and silliness and suspicion and good-heartedness, but i can see how some could find her grating.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not even that I find her grating so much as just ... bland and intangible. Grain of salt: I feel the same way about Chloe Sevigny in everything but American Psycho.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought Busy was great on Freaks. When she showed up on Dawsons I was like, huh? Linda C is great. Has she done anything sense? How much are they charging for this thing?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

She's the geeky girl in Scooby Doo, I think

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Busy Phillips gets bonus points for being part of a weird sub-genre of teen-indie movies that I see on cable, always starring Dominique Swain or some other jailbait starlet.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Linda C is great. Has she done anything sense?

I think she is on ER, but I can't say for sure since I don't watch that show.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i know!!! "the smokers"!!!

(xp)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

dominique swain has become such a straight-to-video siren!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

The Smokers, New Best Friend, Tart, oh so many more.

(woah, the photo on her IMDB page is scarrrry)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

new best friend is the worst friend a moviegoer can have

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

(sorry)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

That one was bad enough that even I couldn't sit through it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

last night i was supposed to go out. since i just got the box set, my friend and i decided to have a few drinks and watch a few episodes first before leaving the house. we never made it. instead, we drank a bottle of stoli and ploughed through 3 of the discs. everyone, go get a copy. borrow or steal $ if necessary. this show was truly amazing, and the kid who played haverchuk is unquestionably a genius.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

$120 :(((((((((((((((((((((

Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Linda C is definitely the spunky nurse on ER. She's also Velma in the Scooby Doo movies.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Michael Anthony, Anthony Michael, it's all the same when nobody wants to hire you anymore.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:24 (seven years ago) link

Cardellini was an amazing performance to be sure; always disappointed she didn't do more, or really anything near that level dramatically again. I wonder how much Forgetting Sarah Marshall impacted her career, if at all.

Nhex, Friday, 5 April 2013 17:50 (seven years ago) link

why would that impact her career

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:07 (seven years ago) link

the people who know that she dated a dude she was on a show with, that said dude wrote that movie, and that he supposedly was inspired by his own experiences

so probably like five or six people

I, rrational (mh), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:12 (seven years ago) link

oh I got the subtext of the movie, I just don't see why any producers/directors would care that her ex-bf made a movie about her being a bitch

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 April 2013 18:13 (seven years ago) link

probably not - i think ER ending and that movie just kinda happened around the same time

Nhex, Friday, 5 April 2013 18:15 (seven years ago) link

if anything some producer is probably hoping she does the same to some other guy, because hollywood loves a good whiny heartbroken man film these days

I, rrational (mh), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:00 (seven years ago) link

Cardellini doesn't even really look human anymore

Number None, Saturday, 6 April 2013 14:38 (seven years ago) link

what... she looks the same but 13 years older

turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 6 April 2013 14:44 (seven years ago) link

there's a...deadness there now

Number None, Saturday, 6 April 2013 14:50 (seven years ago) link

She's got...lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye.

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 6 April 2013 17:15 (seven years ago) link

whoa i do not follow blogs or w/e but i didnt realize sarah marshall was supposed to be her

adult bash (m bison), Saturday, 6 April 2013 18:02 (seven years ago) link

She is also Chris Cooper's oil developer character in The Muppets because Segel is unable to write fiction and everything in all his scripts is transcribed directly from his real life

Devendra Bumhat (sic), Sunday, 7 April 2013 00:24 (seven years ago) link

sic is on to something

I, rrational (mh), Sunday, 7 April 2013 00:45 (seven years ago) link

sexy, sexy Chris Cooper

I, rrational (mh), Sunday, 7 April 2013 00:45 (seven years ago) link

which junkie british rockstar did Cardellini bang btw

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 7 April 2013 03:43 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Lindsay Weir is Appalled: http://lindsayweirisappalled.tumblr.com/

"Stills from the television series 'Freaks and Geeks' featuring the character Lindsay Weir looking confounded, dismayed or utterly mortified."

ernestp, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 01:41 (five years ago) link

<3 4eva

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 03:16 (five years ago) link

yes!

marcos, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 03:24 (five years ago) link

I don't actually think its that good of a tumblr but I just love this show and Lindsay weir so much

marcos, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 03:29 (five years ago) link

<3 this tumblr, <3 lindsay

NYC if you didn't know was taken over by skeleton hipsters in the past (stevie), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 10:53 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Mr. Weir mentoring Nick was such a moving episode

Neanderthal, Sunday, 22 May 2016 14:28 (four years ago) link

I am almost done watching this. love almost everything about it. including Neil getting his ass beat by cheerleaders.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 22 May 2016 14:29 (four years ago) link

and also him acting like a cutup, like saying "I had a great time with your wife last night" when he was the catcher

Neanderthal, Sunday, 22 May 2016 14:30 (four years ago) link

one of the great ensemble casts for sure - there's not a weak link anywhere. bill watching garry shandling on his own with a grilled cheese breaks my heart and makes me laugh every time. martin starr is the best

damn i should watch this again

(main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 May 2016 14:59 (four years ago) link

yeah martin starr having a career is kind of a miracle cuz he was so great on freaks and geeks but i just assumed we'd barely ever see him again.

balls, Sunday, 22 May 2016 18:44 (four years ago) link

bill watching garry shandling on his own with a grilled cheese breaks my heart and makes me laugh every time. martin starr is the best

this. I love this show so much. I could watch it again.

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Sunday, 22 May 2016 19:17 (four years ago) link

i love seeing martin starr anywhere but as much as i like him as a sardonic asshole in party down and silicon valley i wish he got to to do more of the nuanced, sympathetic stuff he did as bill haverchuck - even his posture was perfect ffs

(main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 May 2016 19:48 (four years ago) link

okay i've talked myself into watching this again right now

(main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 May 2016 19:49 (four years ago) link

we rewatched last year and did not regret it all

marcos, Sunday, 22 May 2016 20:29 (four years ago) link

martin starr is easily the best thing about this show

6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 22 May 2016 20:56 (four years ago) link

Easily?

The Wally Funk Bible (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 May 2016 21:01 (four years ago) link

it was so easy for me to say it, therefore yes

6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 22 May 2016 21:04 (four years ago) link

i just watched the pilot again and bill's awkwardness is so vivid and painful that it doesn't really seem like acting at all

(main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 May 2016 22:10 (four years ago) link

my overriding memory of this show (which I only saw for the first time 4-5 years ago) is by the end of every episode my other half would be in floods of tears and just saying how much she was like the linda cardinelli character as a kid. there's a truthfulness to this show you don't see much in programmes about young people. the episode where the drummer kid quits playing drums is just so harsh and powerful.

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Monday, 23 May 2016 09:24 (four years ago) link

Rly want to watch this again, not sure if i can in the uk?

kinder, Monday, 23 May 2016 11:43 (four years ago) link

Isn't it on netflix? I think it used to be?

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Monday, 23 May 2016 11:46 (four years ago) link

it is in the US

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:02 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Been watching this as a family. Been a while, but perfectly cast, well written, very almost unusually nuanced and empathetic. My kids are digging it.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 01:11 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just saw a 90-min show on it on A&E, worth seeing.

nickn, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 05:49 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Started this tonight for something I've been working on. Found the first episode slow but promising. This probably came up somewhere on The Virgin Suicides thread, but it's amazing that (from the air/release dates I was able to look up) they scooped Coppola on "Come Sail Away" by a few months (best scene in the pilot, I'd say). Coppola's film also had a key scene with a Down Syndrome character--I don't know if she's ever talked about it, but she seems to have been influenced by the TV show.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:26 (two years ago) link

Often great. Enough so that when it wasn't, I wanted its many flaws smoothed over. And when the flaws started to take over, something great would happen.

clemenza, Saturday, 25 August 2018 16:38 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

well this is a big hit w my 12yo daughter

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 23:50 (eight months ago) link

:D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:27 (eight months ago) link

She sees right through Daniel’s bad boy act fyi

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:36 (eight months ago) link

My kids *loved* it when we watched it as a family.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:38 (eight months ago) link

#raisedright

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:39 (eight months ago) link

loved this. the dramatic elements were grounded and relatable, regardless of when you grew up. hell, Nick's failed drumming audition was heartbreaking! or Neil finding out his dad was a low-life.

papa stank (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 03:42 (eight months ago) link

In hindsight this getting canceled after 1 season was sign of the decline of America

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 04:16 (eight months ago) link


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