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I was in the library the other day and a kid had an Apple Laptop, it was quite small (about the size of 10" record) and as thick as a half-inch to 6cm, it was a milky white colour, and looked pretty good. If I wanted to buy such a portable snazzy Apple, which one would you recommend (for travel and working at Uni) and how much am I looking at?

dwh (dwh), Thursday, 5 December 2002 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

David I'll sell you mine. Three weeks old.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 5 December 2002 21:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

My mom just got one. Under $1000.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 5 December 2002 21:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's called an iBook! I have an older model. If you buy online from Apple, they're doubling the RAM for only $40. Entry-level is $999.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 5 December 2002 21:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

David I'll sell you mine. Three weeks old.

oh no! i remember the thread where in the end you decided to get one. what happened? do you not like it? does it suck?

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Thursday, 5 December 2002 21:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

mark - how much? and plus, is that comin from US? ie would that be a problem?

dwh (dwh), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I dunno, David...

I just a peek around Apple's UK site and I suspect you might be better off going direct (I'm in Canada)...

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 6 December 2002 03:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hear Steve Jobs personaly seals them with his scaley tongue

Mike Hanle y (mike), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

my mom uses (my old) ibook. glad i got rid of it. actually its okay. only damn modem makes it crash every other day.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 6 December 2002 07:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did you upgrade the firmware? There was a firmware upgrade that fixed this problem with the old iBook.

Ed (dali), Friday, 6 December 2002 10:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK, I'm going off on a tangent here, but in the same ballpark-


...ummm, can anyone get me a really cheap (i.e. free) copy of OSX Jaguar? My new version of Final Cut won't work without it (and I'm supposed to be a freelance editor). And am I allowed to say that here?

Please don't kill me, Mr Apple.

Big Hogleg, Friday, 6 December 2002 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

So, what made you change your mind about the iBook, Mark?

OCP (OCP), Saturday, 7 December 2002 09:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

ten months pass...
Yes, Mark, please do tell.

Nick and I are seriously considering getting an Apple Powerbook 12". It's a G4 as - opposed to the G3 Ibook - and is supposed to be better for recording and mixing music.

What say you??

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

Also, what's up with airport connections. Do you have one? Does it do a good job? Or should we just stick to the plug-it-in-the-wall option?

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

g4, yes it is better for recording.

airport is much more expensive than wires in the wall, or trailing across the living room floor, but it works great. However, you will have to plug your computer into the power, and much more often with airport on.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link

The main reason we would go with the PowerBook over the iBook is that right now, we record music on my analog 8-track recorder, then mix down onto CoolEdit so that we can fix levels and burn cds of our stuff. This isn't even possible on the iBook because it has no audio input jack. But also, I think the 8-track will die in the next year, and if we have a PowerBook when it does, we might just move into doing multitrack recording directly onto the PowerBook instead of getting another 8-track or a digital 4- or 8-track.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

However, you will have to plug your computer into the power, and much more often with airport on.

This sentence doesn't read very well. So you mean because it is power hungry?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

I have the 12" ibook, and I haven't noticed too much difference in powerhungriness with airport turned on as opposed to airport turned off. The battery life is amazingly long (as compared to my Compaq laptop for work, its battery barely lasts 2 hours). The thing that totally runs down the ibook battery is DVD watching.

lyra (lyra), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

Can't you change the power settings in OS X so that stuff like DVD watching doesn't drain as much power from the battery?

In other news, it looks like Panther is going to be released in about two weeks.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

I'm getting excited about the laptop idea. Our computer is so horrible and bulky and needs to be put to sleep. The monitor has turned YELLOW.

Yellow, I tells ya. (How does that read? ha ha)

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

i am looking at the 12' powerbook myself for the same reasons. i went to the apple store last week and can not stop thinking about buying one. i know this has been asked before, but how hard is it to set up soulseek or an alternative on the mac? all i want the mac for is music music music!

half jack, Thursday, 9 October 2003 18:23 (twenty years ago) link

kephm, I didn't recognize you with your new user name. Or maybe you changed it a long time ago and I just haven't been around to notice such things. :( But yeah, it's all about the music.

Sarah MCLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

hi-i only changed it a couple weeks ago. i never really liked kephm.
it is short for 'kitten epherma', making the name the tweeee~ist of all of ilx.i also learned kephm is the name of a pokemon or some such. half jack is only temporary i think...

half jack, Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

but how hard is it to set up soulseek or an alternative on the mac

There's always Virtual PC.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/TECH/10/15/hln.wired.mac.attack/story.powerbook.jpg

OH, my dearest PowerBook G4 12", Please don't turn your back on me! Not now!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

I'm using my new 12" right now. It seems pretty terrific so far. I may even do some sound recording with it--probably record a bunch of records from this huge collection that's been left in my trust for a year. Also some video editing--the nice thing is there's this mini-DVI plug so I can hook it up to a big monitor! and be running both at once with different stuff on each screen!

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 9 October 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

The other thing is though I am taking a little while to get used to the LCD screen.

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 9 October 2003 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

(psst..for a cheap(er) copy of jaguar, think educational discount...)

and installing a soulseek client on os x (it's called nicotine, haha) is pretty easy when you have access to a great guide like this: The Moron's guide to SoulSeek on a Mac.

seems like I've seen more references to purchasing new apple laptops in the past month than ever before. is it just b/c I'm paying more attention since I'm now a switcher?

j. pantsman (jpantsman), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

YAY! I'm typing on our new PowerBook G4! We couldn't wait. La ti da. It's so crisp and beautiful. Nick said it was all kind of sad that we'll have to watch it get messed up over time. *sigh*

But anyway, as Ned might say, RAH!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

my new 15" rules all your asses hahaa

TOMBOT, Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:52 (twenty years ago) link

I love my 15", but the silver finish is chipping off the titanium case pretty badly in one spot. The PowerBook is a totally gorgeous consumer item, but I am a bit disappointed with this. Otherwise I couldn't be happier.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 10 October 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

you should have waited two years like me and gotten the new aluminum one with the backlit keyboard and 1.25Ghz+Superdrive. SUCKA!

TOMBOT, Friday, 10 October 2003 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

Did you buy a lovely carrying case for yours, Sean?

I love the glowing apple behind the screen.

Nick is home playing with the laptop. I'm at work. Blah.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 10 October 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link

the 12" powerbook is easily (EASILY) the greatest machine i have ever used. i was at a friend's house in maryland a few weeks ago, and he had the 12" powerbook with an airport extreme card. sitting on a porch overlooking a lake having my morning smoke while checking my email and listening to music through the mac's surprisingly powerful speakers? heaven!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 10 October 2003 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

I hear that the new G4 PBs are a good buy because they are 3rd generation G4 PBs, and thus reasonably tried and tested. The G5 PBs will almost certainly contain lots of new technology (to fit the processor in the box and to power it) and will likely be unreliable for this reason. Also they probably won't be out for ages.
Do you agree with this reasoning? Have previous Apple products been better after a couple of reincarnations?

chandler apple, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:50 (twenty years ago) link

The best reason not to wait for a G5 powerbook is that they will take a year to arrive. Apple hardware is generally good first time out. Naturally it gets better with revisions. The latest G4 powerbooks probably have very few shared components with the original models there have been at least three completely new motherboards since the original launch. and the current processor is a new design as well. Major revisions are effectively completely new machines even if the name stays the same.

Software wise, especially OS revisions, I generally let other people install them first and see what happens to them. There are lots of boards out there where people will report back within hours of an update appearing to report successes and failures.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

Also check the wizzy new iBook G4s.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link

Oh no! Now I don't know what to buy. Panther looks good though...

chandler apple, Saturday, 25 October 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

my 1st-gen "tiBook" screen was infected with devils this summer, but once i got to Englandia it magically got better! yay for mysterious computer recoveries!!!!!!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

I touched it, no magic only miracles.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link

I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Panther or not...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

ooooooooh he's a magic man, mama

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

The new iBooks look very good value right now, not the latest G4 chip but still very good. If you do get an iBook, get more RAM, 256Mb is not enough.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, the word re: panther is that its faster that jaguar, particularly on older macs.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

fuck apple ibooks. mine died out of nowhere last night, and i've been on hold with apple support for an hour and a half so far today.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, the word re: panther is that its faster that jaguar, particularly on older macs.

Really, how tempting...this would include my trusty G4 Cube?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

I believe so. I'm waiting to see if any major bugs appear before installing, monitoring various Mac boards etc. Also don't forget to backup, I'm currently backing up essential files, using Carbon Copy Cloner, to my iPod.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 25 October 2003 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

Well there's G4 and G4: the PBs have still got much better specs than the iBooks, which are nonetheless a great bargain...

chandler apple, Saturday, 25 October 2003 20:19 (twenty years ago) link

I'm going to install Panther pretty soon. Ed, what's your opinion on clean installing vs. archive & install?

s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 25 October 2003 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

I like ingots

RJG, Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Mister M has ordered me a new iBook because this one is full (which I suppose is a bit like buying a new car because the ashtrays in the current one are full). We're giving my current iBook to his sister. Thing is, the trackpad is a bit fucked on it - it has a tendency to get stuck scrolling or not scrolling, and sometimes the cursor won't move, and I've just noticed the up arrow key is having a problem too. Is there any point in trying to get this fixed before we give her the thing, or should I just say "hey, here's a laptop. It's a bit shit, but it's better than nothing"?

accentmonkey, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

My 12" iBook finally died this month.

I took it apart into seven pieces (RAM, screen, upper casing, bottom casing, touch pad, battery, logic board) and ended up Ebay auctioning those working pieces off for more than the whole thing was worth in working order. Crazy.

ni jo leeeeeee, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, pricing for used Apple parts is wacky. A friend of mine was looking for an Airport card for a G4 tower and online they were going for $200. This is one of the only instances in which I can think of computer parts appreciating in value.

Bill in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I broke down and bought a MBP 2.4GHz yesterday, refurbished, to replace the one I was using from the job I just got laid off from. The one I'd had there worked flawlessly; this one just had the trackpad freeze up on me. Has this happened to anyone else? This is one of the new unibody aluminum laptops with the 'glass' trackpad. I had to do a full reboot to get out of it. There were definitely some apple software updates that needed to be installed and I've done that but now I'm afraid to put the thing to sleep.

akm, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

If it's messed up now you're better off figuring it out now, within the first two weeks, so you can send it back and get it fixed for free (if it's a physical hardware problem)...

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Take it straight back to the store and they should give you a new one straight away.

Prince of Persia (Ed), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

iirc one of those software updates may have fixed the issue for you

if it happens again, hie thee to the genius bar

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

That has happened exactly once to me - IIRC mine was also coming out of sleep. After a reboot all was fine. Haven't had it since, nor have I tried to bother duplicating it - I trust that Apple will take care of me should this reoccur.

Also, interesting fact: I heard that the reject rate on manufacturing the glass trackpads at the factory is something like 50%, so it's conceivable a few duds made it out the door...

DJ Khaled El-Amin (dyao), Thursday, 23 April 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

does anyone else have this macbook problem where clicking once on the trackpad button makes a double-click? so when you hit your back button it goes back two pages, and then you hit forward and it goes forward two pages? or you can't really check a checkbox because it checks and unchecks in one click? argh. it's ok as long as i stay away from the left side of the button but i would like it to be normal again

hell bus ride (harbl), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

finally bumped my 15.4" macbook pro up to 4GB of RAM yesteray, it is like a whole new machine. It's a bit disappointing to realize that 2GB on this was barely enough, I kept having slowness changing b/w apps (admittedly, memory hogging apps like photoshop/dreamweaver and firefox, which still has some kind of horrible memory leak if you leave it running all day); running vmware fusion was almost pointless; now it's so smooth it makes me drool. hopefully snow leopard will turn out to be the slimmer, faster OS its rumored to be.

akm, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

so my superdrive has bit the dust as far as DVD media is concerned, maybe after snow leopard, I can't really tell. Hitting the apple support pages I found something like 25 pages of similar complaints all logged in the past few days. WTF? I have a Matsushita drive, which seems appropriately named. Although I should note that the drive in my mac mini which is a pioneer also seems to be fucked for dvds after snow leopard. Tell me I'm not the only one. At least I have applecare for the laptop.

akm, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The Matsushita drive in my MBP did they same thing and eventually wouldn't read cds either. This began long before Snow Leopard. They replaced it last May with a HL-DT something-or-other, which I believe is made by LG. I think the Matsushita drives just crap out, regardless of OS.

Can't comment on the mini.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/28/apple_investigating_alleged_issues_with_superdrives.html
they seem to all be crapping out this week though which is a little weird.

akm, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

if I have applecare on this mofo, will they just replace my laptop for me when I go into the genius bar, or are they going to make me send it in and be computerless for a week?

akm, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I went to the genius bar, they said up to 72 hours and had it back to me in 2.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

My (three year-old) macbook has been refusing to pick up wi-fi the last couple of days, it says `invalid password´ for PWs I know to be correct. What could be wrong? Nothing else appears to be up with it, aside from a little inevitable slowness due to age and fullness.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

trash the airport pref file

dayo, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks... Ive gone open network preferences>advanced then deleted all preferred networks, and the problem is persisting. Is this what you meant?

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22718

dayo, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

once you're in that folder I would delete anything with an 'airport' in it - restart, your mac will create new default pref files

dayo, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

I think thats pretty much what Ive done, hasnt worked. Reckon I might need to show an IT pro my computer personally. Thanks so much for the help though.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

there's a difference between clearing everything via system prefs and doing it via the finder... I would trash anything related to networks in that folder and restart.

dayo, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

this is prob a stupid sugg but i remember having to put a dollar sign before some wifi passwords

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

what dayo said - you need to trash the files, empty the trash and restart

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

rather impressed apple rebuilt a friend's macbook for free, esp after the abuse she'd put it through

Once Were Moderators (DG), Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

not entirely on topic, but...

can anyone recommend a good USB "presentation remote" that can be used easily with Mac--hopefully with both MS PowerPoint and Open Office?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 3 March 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

? ?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 4 March 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

would bet some monies that someone has made a wiimote interface to do that.

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 4 March 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

why USB and not bluetooth?

the late great, Sunday, 4 March 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know if i have bluetooth on this thing or if i need to buy something to enable it. /dummy

i have a macbook pro--it's about 2 years old.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 4 March 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

would also bet monies you also have bluetooth. in the menubar there is usually a hieroglyphic-style "B" icon for bluetooth that you can click and select to activate. P.S. wii controllers work on bluetooth.

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 4 March 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

newest macbook pro EFI update fixes my flickering screen...nearly 4 years after I bought the damn thing.

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 12:41 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

10.9.1 is out...and items in the finder still take a year to show up...should never have upgraded from 10.8

Gotta take it slow in your fast ride (calstars), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

hey y'all

i'm looking to get a new integrated amp for my turntable and CD player, but the main thing is that i want an amp that can accommodate bluetooth streaming from my macbook. sick of either having to plug in my laptop (or iPod) to the receiver directly, or just listening through my laptop's teensy speakers.

do you folks know if you can reliably stream stuff from VLC (which can play more audio formats than iTunes, like e.g. FLAC) via bluetooth? i really have never done this stuff before so i'm a little in the dark. and how /far away/ can you stream audio to another bluetooth device? if my computer is upstairs (2nd floor) and the amp is downstairs, will they 'find" one another?

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 27 August 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

not sure if there's a digital-audio/streaming thread that i should post this to.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 27 August 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

I don't know anything about it either but this might help (or might not,) School me on SONOS and other home streaming systems

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 27 August 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link

I know this is First World Problem but I absolutely HAVE to buy a new MacBook Pro today knowing full-well that the new MBPs are coming out in 3 months.

I'm essentially buying 3-4 year old technology when the next gen is just around the corner.

I'm thinking I should just get a refurb with low memory capacity to keep it as "cheap" ($1,099) as possible and then flip it in November.

Any thoughts?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 August 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

Worst possible timing. Can't you beg or borrow another laptop to make do until then?

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

I'm afraid not, my current build is not robust enough to handle the processes I'm sending it and the next 12 weeks of projects are pretty critical for me.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

You could aways go to Tekserve. Oh wait, no you can't, not anymore.

Put Out More Flag Posts (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

my macbook crashed and I was just going to go to the apple store tommorrow to fix it and/or get a new one, y'all saying I should hold off until the next series comes out?

marcos, Saturday, 27 August 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

Definitely.

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac

heaven parker (anagram), Saturday, 27 August 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

I got a 16” pro and the sound is pretty amazing. First time I’ve ever heard honest bass on laptop speakers

calstars, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

agree

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 10 March 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I have a 2016 Macbook Pro running Monterey 12.7.4. Everything seems fine except that for a few months now, I've been getting a weird pixelated effect on the display, most notably in text displayed in browsers, but also in some videos and other documents. For instance, as I type this in the Add a Post box in Chrome, there are strange, faint underlines below some of the text that seem to shift and reform as I type. Switching windows and/or scrolling sometimes clears it up temporarily.

Any suggestions for what this could be?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 11:44 (two weeks ago) link

haunted

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:19 (two weeks ago) link

2016 means could be flexgate related https://www.macrumors.com/guide/flexgate-macbook-pro-display-issue/

, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:30 (two weeks ago) link

Thanks. It doesn't really look like the flexgate pictures I have seen, but the display top of the laptop is also way looser than when new so maybe related.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 15:00 (two weeks ago) link


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