Let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-workers

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Girl I work with is chatting to a male customer in friendly fashion as she serves him. He leaves, then me and her have this conversation.

Annoying Girl: "I hope people don't get the wrong idea!"
Me: "Eh?"
AG: "About me and the guy. I hope people don't start thinking we're going out, just because I'm friendly to him when he comes in."
Me: "Eh, I don't think people will assume that."
AG: "You don't think the bosses would fire me for it? You know, for being too friendly with the customers?"
Me: "Eh, no." (Thinking: Christ Almighty!)
AG: "I'm really worried now. They wouldn't fire me for it, would they?"
Me: "I doubt it."

A few minutes pass...

AG: "I'm still really worried. They wouldn't fire me, would they?"
Me: "NO!" (Thinking: leave me alone, you neurotic freak!)

Then this crazy elderly man, a regular customer, comes in. He was in a car accident which left him, (how shall I put this?), barking mad. He thinks he's a real estate owner, and I'm one of his tenants, despite the fact that he asks me for money for tobacco every time he comes in. He proceeds to tell the annoying girl about all the houses he owns, and how I am one of his tenants etc, etc, while drooling and smelling terrible! He leaves.

AG: (genuinely) "Was that true, what he was saying?"
Me: "Oh my, no."
AG: "It could have been..."
Me: "I'm pretty sure it wasn't" (Thinking: Christ! I think I'd know if I was one of his tenants!)
AG: "Appearances can be deceptive..."
Me: "No, I'm pretty sure he's barking mad."
AG: "But-"
Me: "NO!"

It was a long day at work. I feel better now I've got it off my chest! Now it's your turn to bitch.

What makes it even more irritating is that she's a very NICE person. No harm in her at all, just really annoying and stupid. So I feel bad for bitching about her, yet I am compelled to do so!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the managers at the petrol station once called me outside for a smoke and to talk to me, it was a bit like the Warden Norton/Tommy scene in Shawshank Redemption.

Boss:"Ronan could you comb your hair next time you come to work"

Me:"eh in fairness the contract doesn't say anything about me having to comb my hair"

Boss:"yeah but I mean you're a student now yeah? this job isn't so bad. they look after you well, it's a good wage, I'm happy with my lot"

Me:"I don't think there's any chance of me ever working here for a living, long term"

Boss:"Yeah and they pay your health insurance, it's not too difficult a job either"

Me:"Yeah no I'm never going to want to work here, to be honest I was planning on quitting as soon as I start college, or maybe even sooner, you needn't tell the main boss that"

Boss:"Oh don't worry, whatever is discussed here stays here. *long David Brent style lecture* I know what it's like to work WITH people and AROUND people, and I know that this station is not being run as effectively as possible, it's a clique, and I'm sure you can see that too Ronan. But quitting isn't going to change that. You quitting will not make this a smoother operation.

Me:"Eh I don't care about this job, I'm not sure what your point is"

Boss:"All I'm saying is, think about what I've said to you yeah? Just think about it"


Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it only DCU students who work with stupid, annoying people?

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

no, its anyone who has ever worked in bars with no-neck, arrogant-for-no-reason wankers, with no brain function other than the tiny amount required to raise a beer to their filthy mouths after a shift.

donna (donna), Friday, 29 November 2002 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Hurrah for it is the last day of the CompulsiveEatingBurpingCulotteWearingTactlessJollyCoWorker today!!! What will hopefully be my last annoying conversation with her happened first thing on Wednesday morning:

CEBCWTJCW: Morning Rachel!!! Oooh! What have you done to your NOSE??

Me: What? Oh yeah, it's a spot.

CEBCWTJCW: No! You've cut yourself or something! It's really RED.

Me: No, really, it's just a big, shiny, noticeable spot.

CEBCWTJCW: It looks really BAD!

At this point I gave up all hope of having a good day.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 November 2002 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Day one at my new job.

Woman At Next Desk: Oh, you used to live in London? So did I. I moved back after my daughter started school and, to be honest, I'm really glad I did. The education you get in London is terrible.

Madchen: I've heard inner city schools are, er, challenging.

WAND: Oh yes. I mean, she was one of only three white faces in the class.

Madchen: Oh. (Mutters something under her breath about 1 in 4 Scots).

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 29 November 2002 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link

My co-worker Oh, I'm not being funny.... but could you only buy your lunch from the shop across the road from now on? When you go anywhere else it takes too long. Maybe you should bring a pack up from home.

Me (in my head): No, fuck off you food fascist. You're the one who is consistantly 15 minutes late back from lunch every day, and I know I'll spend the last hour of the day sitting around doing nothing listening to you go on and on and on so it's not like we're really busy. And God, just never speak to me again!

Me (in reality): Yeah, no problem.

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Maddie, immediately invent an obscure food allergy that REQUIRES you to go to a different shop! Oh , and then KILL HER.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, madchen, fuck you! ;)

dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link

What the hell? Why, precisely, was that necessary, dwh? Christ on a bike.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Maddie, your co-worker is EVIL. There's only one place you should go for an off-site lunch and that's THE PUB!

robster (robster), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Rule 2858 in a series of obscure rules:

Office twats who preface statements with 'I'm not being funny' should recognise that everything following the phrase comes with its own virtual kill file.

My other suggestion would be to canvass other coworkers for a pizza delivery one Friday and exclude her blatantly.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to invent a food allergy but then I'd be like her! She's allergic to garlic, alcohol, traffic fumes, manmade fibres, "still air" (this means we have the fan on in the winter so the air circulates and her eyes don't "gum up"), some other stuff that I forgot and, of course, EVER DOING ANY WORK. She is allergic to getting off her arse, I fear.

And the "I'm not being funny/I'm not having a go/I don't want you to take this the wrong way...." rule. I reckon if you have to start a sentence with any of these statements, you shouldn't be saying the sentence at all!

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and I can't canvass others to share food. There's only me and her in the whole shop. And when it's quiet she talks to me like we're friends but we're not. It's all very unfortunate.

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha 'still air'????

Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

This stupid stupid woman sent every single person here an email saying that she left 60 centimes in the coffee machine and asking for whoever finds it to bring it to her office. What a scrooge!

Miss Laura, Friday, 29 November 2002 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

it wasn't sincere, liz, it was just a grumble about the allegation that 1/4 of scots are racist, y'know. the 'haha' was meant to temper it, sorry.

dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Allegation? My personal experience is this:

I work in a room with two people. Person 1 said to me all the stuff I wrote above. She thought nothing of saying it to a stranger (the assumption, I guess, being that I would think the same). Person 2 laughed along merrily. Also, I have come across numerous people in Glasgow who tell me they get scared in London because there are so many black people around. Again, the way they express themselves implies they feel no sense of shame whatsoever - they just don't see there's anything wrong in expressing obviously prejudiced opinions.

I'm not denying for a second that racism doesn't exist elsewhere (and I'm not forgetting that the survey found 3 in 4 Scots aren't racist) but this is the only place I've encountered bigots who have the expectation that my opinion must be the same as theirs.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 29 November 2002 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Try the deli counter at S**n**ury's. I get so many customers who expect me to agree with their racist opinions simply because I am white. Twats.

alix (alix), Friday, 29 November 2002 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

e-mail from my boss: "when I came in on Monday, the Threepenny Opera files were not online. I expect that when I assign a task that it will be completed. Don't let this happen in the future."

reply from me: "actually, on Friday we both determined that we had the wrong CD and would have to special order a new copy. On Monday."

reply from my boss: "There must have been some miscommunication here."

yeah, between your ears and your brain. moron!

Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 29 November 2002 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Suzy, you aren't generalising wildly enough: yes, anyone who says "I'm not being funny, but" is best punched, hard and often, but this applies to most other sentences on the "I'm not being [X], but" model. X=racist obviously means "I am a loathsome racist", most obviously and clearly. Try 'sexist' or 'nasty' too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 29 November 2002 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Happily I've been blessed with a slew of great co-workers. I will say that some years back the news that someone was departing from our neck of the woods to go elsewhere was greeted with quiet relief, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 November 2002 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Maddy, if she's your boss and only other co-worker then it sounds like she needs you more than you need her. POINTEDLY go to other shops to get your lunch. I say ignore the instruction.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2002 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Annoying Coworker: Yes, well, that account would be able to fund your entity if you hadn't taken money from it without telling me.
Me: What?
Annoying Coworker: (holds up wire) See? $147,000 from my account.
Me: No, we gave you money.
Annoying Coworker WHO GETS PAID LOTS MORE THAN ME: NO YOU DID NOT. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't write wires without telling me in the future.
Me: Did you look at this? You account is on the credit side. Management (nb: my account) is on the debit side!
Annoying Coworker: Whatever, just don't do it again.

What the fuck?

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 30 November 2002 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
We've got two new people here this year - one of whom is very cool and I hardly see, so we get along really well. The other one, though - a nightmare. She's the epitome of simpering little girl-ness, speaks to me (and most everyone else) as though I'm a retarded child when in fact I've been doing the job that she's just begun (and is completely incompetent at, I might add) for 12 years. She's one of those people who has never met anyone as fascinating as herself in all of her born days and if she doesn't calm down, stop being a stupid bitch and stop second guessing every word I say to her, I will hit her in the head with a brick.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

The receptionist keeps telling everyone she's going through post partum depression.

Despite the fact that she's obviously still pregnant.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

My head hurts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

How about the dumbass cockfarmer that came into the library coughing and sneezing in such an ostentatious way it's like he intentionally planned a big Outbreak scenario? Now I'm at home running a fever and I think I might have bronchitis again.

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Hm. Find him and kill him.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I was depressed about being unemployed until I saw this thread. Thank you everyone. :)

fractal (fractal), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 03:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I was also informed that I wasn't authorized to approve payment on technological items.

However, I AM authorized to purchase them, however I want, whenever I want.

What does that even mean?

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

It means you got the kingdom, you got the key. Order yourself everything you ever wanted and don't share.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

people should post more on this thread. i like it.

Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link

What follows is an email that was sent to some friends last spring, after a particularly bad morning with co-workers.

SUBJECT LINE: I gotta get outta this place
...if it's the last thing I ever do (feel free to hum along.)

After a delightful morning spent discussing why someone:
1. Shouldn't open a printer paperfeed drawer, while the printer is printing;
2. Shouldn't send emails to everyone on their mailing lists about Church-related emails;
3. Should let others know when they need the printer instead of deleting documents in the queue;
4. Shouldn't tell someone "this is urgent" so they work really late to get it finished, when really, it isn't urgent at all and in fact, doesn't need to be done at all; and
5. Shouldn't take someone else's lunch from the refrigerator and leave it on the counter to make room for "extra drinks in case we have visitors,"
I have now experienced the conversation to top them all (and really, you have to laugh at this one. I did. Once I calmed down, imbibed chocolate and nicotine, and thought "well, at least it's not quantum physics?). So....here it is:

A Dialogue between "M" (yours truly) and "S" (Otherwise known as Scarett/Princess/Arch Nemesis/The Scarf Lady/etc.)
S: Hey "M"!
M: Yes?
S: You know how to work that digital camera yet?
M: Yeah, figured it out last week.
S: How long does it take to get those photos developed?
M: What?
S: I need some photos really fast, so I can photocopy them and make notes on the back. And get duplicates too, in case they get messed-up.
M: What? What pictures do you need taken?
S: I need to you take pictures of my computer.
M: Why?
S: I need to know what's on my computer.
M: (sigh) You are looking for a file?
S: No, I need to know what is on my screen thing.
M: (dawning awareness) You need screen captures?
S: No, I need pictures of my computer.
M: For....?
S: I need to know what's on my screen, 'cause these instructions don't make sense and I want to make notes.
M: Okay, then you need a picture of the information on your screen, that you can print and add notes to?
S: Yes.
M: Okay, we don't need the camera for that. We can just do screen captures. It's easy.
(M walks over to other office, taking deep and soothing breathes all the while, and explains how to "CTRL+ALT+PrtScn" - runs into trouble with explanation of holding down all keys at the same time. Eventually resolved and screen is captured.)
M: Now open Word and set the page to ?Landscape.?
S: My computer won't do that.
M: What? Yes it will.
(M goes through brief discussion of "portrait" vs "landscape" and how to perform operation in Word. Discovers part of problem is that S doesn?t know how to open Word because the icon isn?t on her desktop.)
M: Now just hit "Shift+Insert" and your screen shot will be inserted.
M: No, you need to hold down both keys at the same time.
M: I don't know, that's just the way the program is designed.
M: Yeah, it is find of frustrating.
M: Okay, now you have it. Just insert a new page for each of the next screen captures and then print the file.
(M returns to own desk and gets back into rhythm of formatting proposal.)
S: M! It isn't working. I want you to take the pictures for me.
M: I don't have time to take the pictures right now, I have to get this back to _____.
S: Well, I don't have the time to use the camera, so I guess this won't get done and _____ will be mad.
M: Yeah, I guess ___ will be mad, but I'll explain the problem to him.
S: Can't you do these thingys for me?
M: No, not right now. I have to get this done.
S: You know, it's your job to do this.
M: No, actually it isn't. I am sorry, but I really can't do it right now. If I have time later I'll come over and see what we can do. In the meantime, why don't you look under the "Help" menu to see if those instructions are better.
S: Oh, my computer doesn't have any "Help" on it. I keep telling ____ he needs to fix it, but he won't.

(M decides, for sake of sanity, to not try and figure out what that last comment means and returns to her editing, swearing all the while.)
End of original email.

And here are additional interesting tidbits about ?S?:
She claimed on her resume to be ?Microsoft Certified,? but was unable to explain what that meant;
She wrote all of her correspondence in Excel, because she didn?t know how to open Word (the icon wasn?t on her desktop);
When she came into work each morning, she made herself a pot of tea and sat in her cubicle reading household decorating magazines and drinking tea for the first two hours: and, best of all
She was once asked to provide a file that she had finished working on to another co-worker. The file was not on her hard drive for, as she explained, she ?didn?t want to fill it up with things? (and it was a 20 G HD!) File was eventually determined, by her, to be on a floppy. But floppy was blank when co-worker opened it. Eventually ?S? showed supervisor where she stored all of her floppys containing important info. She was attaching them to the metal parts of her cubicle with large magnets, so she ?could always find them.?

~ Laura (who is thankful that she can claim to be a happy rat, that abandoned the sinking ship in time to move to a much cushier and affluent ship, and is now ridiculously happy with things)

LCD (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 05:13 (seventeen years ago) link

She was once asked to provide a file that she had finished working on to another co-worker. The file was not on her hard drive for, as she explained, she "didn't want to fill it up with things" (and it was a 20 G HD!)

I've met a few people who have done basic "computer literacy" courses at colleges and Adult Ed. places who do this. What seems to happen is: the college says "don't store your files on the hard drive [of our lab computers], use a floppy" and the person absorbs this without understanding *why* they're being told it.

These sort of courses always seem to produce people who can't do anything except exactly what was on the course, and then only if their computer is set up exactly like the college ones were. Hence, not being able to start Word if it doesn't have a desktop icon.

(of course, the other stuff shows that this person seems to be a fuckwit regardless of that)

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Laura, that's fantastic.

The ex-receptionist at my office once printed out an email so she could type it up in Word.

Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

is that why she's an ex-receptionist?

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link

awwwwww, usually this stuff would make me mad, but today i want to find them all and help them and give them tea.

it's a sappy day.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh, you'd think so wouldn't you. In actual fact, it wasn't until she went on holiday for 6 weeks and nobody noticed her absence that it became the MD realised that we could do without her.

Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

sounds familiar - we had a Communications Executive who never did any communicating.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

We also had an account executive who used to wander around the office to kill time. He had this time-consuming trick of getting up from his desk and finding a bin in another part of the building to throw his litter into (rather than the bin under his desk). Another trick was to go down to the fax machine to send a fax, return to his desk, wait a couple of minutes and then return to the fax machine to collect the piece of paper.

Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my new colleagues is, to all intents and purposes, Jade. I quote:

1. "What does agriculture mean?"

2. "I was so annoyed. Someone threw themselves under my tube yesterday. People that do that must be mad."

3. Me: "Just tell them to put the web address in and it will take them straight into the site."

Her: "What address? Their address?"

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't decide whether to post this to the annoying colleague or the B.O. thread, so I'm going to post it to both! Anyhow, in one office where I worked we had a guy with a B.O. problem and the managers had to have words with him in private on a couple of occasions. And yes, on those rare occasions when my sinuses were clear (one day in seventeen approx) it was quite annoying and offensive to me. However, it was NOT NEARLY AS ANNOYING AND OFFENSIVE as the colleague who used to go on and on about it all the bloody time whenever the guy with the problem walked out of the room! Not only that, but as soon as he left she used to reach for the can of air freshener which she kept on her desk *specially* and spray about a litre of it about the place! So instead of an office smelling of sweat we had an office reeking of air freshener!

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Mailroom guy who looks like a troglodyte - "I wanted 'digical'[pronounced thus] TV cuz I don't have enough channels! They were supposed to install it on Friday but they didn't - the whole weekend I had nuthin' to do! I was really looking forward to it too!"

dave q, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't want to help any of those people, though. far too annoying. the previous lot were quite sweet.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I pretty much get along with my immediate co-workers, and none of them are so annoying that I can't tune them out. However, I once shared an office with a foot fetishist. No kidding; he was friggin' profiled in the Village Voice about it, and was completely calm and collected when I mentioned "so I saw the Voice today..."! I guess we all have our private interests, but we don't all alert the press about it!

Other things he did: worked at his cube standing up (making everyone around him very tense), unbuttoned his shirts halfway down his chest, commented on every phone conversation I had (work related or not), talked to himself, and played horrible CD-Rs of cabaret tunes he wrote and produced. I think the whole experience inoculated me against ever being annoyed by co-workers again.

mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, here's another example from today. We had a sales rep come in to demo a software package/online service that provides journal content. Anyhoo, I did a sample search, and one of the citations that got brought up was from an Ethiopian journal. She said (in all seriousness): "Wow! I didn't think that Ethiopians even had any paper, let alone journals!"

Unfortunately something this stupid is uttered in my office at least once a day...

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

The amount of coworkers you've killed in your head must make quite the body count.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

You have no idea. Entire populations have been erased.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

"As the final screams echoed away into caverns of oblivion, Nicole turned off her death rays and rubbed her chin thoughtfully. 'Should I have used so much napalm?'"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

we keep having learners who "log in" to class, then peace out once roll is called, and in big classes it doesn't get caught right away.

earlier this week, I noticed I had this one who literally showed up for an hour and peaced for the day, then showed up for a few hours the second day. This was obvious as I was monitoring the attendee list for her name after she disappeared, messaged her, and also downloaded the roster from MS TEams, which confirms entrance/exit times.

Her manager assured me she was there "because the learner told her she was", so I told her that was impossible for the reasons above, and that she hadn't done any of the assignments (the only person in class who hadn't).

So the student msgs me upset saying "I've been there, how do you not see me?" and I pointed out she hadn't done any assignments and that I had a log of when she left each day. dead silence - she literally thought she was fooling everybody and didn't count on there being assignments that I checked every day.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:32 (one month ago) link

I'm realizing that I'm terrible at taking attendance over Teams. So far I haven't been calling roll because I have a 50-minute class and 32 students and it takes SO LONG to get them all to unmute and reply. But I think I'll have to because I can't seem to use the "download attendance" feature right; people are always missing from it who I know were in class, and then I can't be fully confident about the people I think were absent.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:48 (one month ago) link

roll call for a 30+ person class in Teams is hell. after the first day, where I do a full roll to learn voices, ask if I'm saying names right, and ask them if they have a nickname they go by, every day forward, I look at the attendees list and make sure they're connected to phone, and take down who I see, and call on just those I'm missing. Imperfect, but I'm on a crunch usually.

I did see some weird results in Download Attendance the first two times I used it, which is why I can't confidently use it alone to confirm absences. I check the number of attendees, and if it varies at any point, I look to see if anybody new joined or if anybody departed, and only after I've confirmed that and/or called on the person, I use the Download feature to confirm what I already know.

Unfortunately sometimes you find out late if the class is too big, and if I can't stay for sure that the person wasn't there, I don't report it....so people often get away with it anyway just due to the bad teacher:learner ratio, having too many learners. also technically, their managers should be joining training and helping monitor them, but...they just don't.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:58 (one month ago) link

but then I worry that i'm going to get in trouble for not noticing someone skipped on class, so....my OCD flares up

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:59 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I've been basically trying to just look at my attendance list, the problem is that in the moment I get hyper-focused on running the class, sustaining their interest and keeping the energy high, and I forget to give myself time to actually check who's missing.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:03 (one month ago) link

yup. I have that problem too.

at some point I just say "you're doing teh best you can", cos if I hyperfocus on attendance, I suddenly get tongue-tied.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:03 (one month ago) link

I've also noticed my training classes went from being more fun and loose to being rigid simply cos my heart isn't in it right now with all of the problems.

i mean, get the right end result, but.....I don't want to make it boring for anybody, and i kinda am atm, which isn't the norm for me

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:05 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

kind of annoying that on a week I'm teaching a class so I wanted to opt out of reviewing Alpha materials for a course redesign we're doing (due today), I can't because I notice two major errors in five minutes that none of the other 4 reviewers caught (and they're regulation errors which would be really bad if we taught incorrectly).

so now I have to because apparently nobody else is paying close attention.

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 October 2020 20:45 (one month ago) link

I had a weird conversation with my boss this week where he pointed out that I keep picking up on errors in our courses/literature/websites and he said it wasn't my job to do that (it isn't) and that I get paid too much to be the department's proofreader (I do).

I pointed out that he was right and that I'd be quite happy to be left off all review circulars from now on as long as he was happy to acknowledge that literally no-one else is either arsed or capable of getting things right first time or correcting them afterwards.

We agree I shall continue in my unofficial capacity as Mr Pernickety.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 24 October 2020 11:53 (one month ago) link

been trying to start my portion of class for ten minutes and my partner has, without even pausing to take a breath, non-stopped talking for ten minutes about unrelated bullshit, and got them onto a topic taht is now generating a lot of discussion. the only way for me to get started is to rudely interrupt her.


i'm in no mood today. we're way behind and i'm stressed tf out.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 13:42 (three weeks ago) link

today my co-instructor asks the entire class what their 'song' is, the one that gets them going. I usually participate in these to encourage the others participating, so I listed my gut reaction, Strapping Young Lad - "Detox". she says "that sounds like metal - that's expected from you, I want something surprising from you", so I said Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes - "Wake Up Everybody". she asked other people to give 'surprising' picks and then said she would play our songs. naturally I figured she was going to go with my second choice, and I also forgot that SYL's Detox begins with Devin Townsend screaming "HEY YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT!".

so suddenly I hear her start my song and I can't get her to stop in time before he says that. idk - maybe a head's up that you were gonna play both my choices woulda been nice, or maybe before asking for our fav tunes telling us you were gonna play em!

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:36 (two weeks ago) link

I'm sure that woke everyone up all the same. win/win

Evan, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:49 (two weeks ago) link

I blamed it on one of the students and had security escort him out of class

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:50 (two weeks ago) link

which makes no sense as he was working from home but

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:50 (two weeks ago) link

Not really a coworker, per se, but I'm being driven up the wall by a particular vendor we frequently use. So this vendor is producing new stuff for us to use as we adapt to COVID concerns, fine. Great. So every few weeks I have to coordinate with him to be on campus to receive the delivery and put it into storage. In the pre-COVID times, this would be fine, I would never be more than a 15 minute walk from the storage place and can meet him fairly quickly. But obviously, having to work from home and being off campus makes this a bit more tricky. (As a side note, I'm still not sure why this particular task hasn't been delegated to one of our employees that is already on campus anyway now, but that's an argument for another day).

Anyway, this guy keeps calling me while he is literally on his way to campus saying, "I'll be there in 20 minutes, see you then". The first time it was annoying, but fine, whatever. I told him that next time he needs to let me know as far in advance as possible, preferably at least 24 hours in advance, so I can make arrangements since I'm off campus and need to juggle between my schedule, my wife's schedule and making sure someone can be around to oversee my son's online classes. Every time we make a new order, I reiterate this in writing and on the phone. Today was the fourth time now he's called me last minute to tell me he's on his way and will meet me in 20 minutes. So once again, I had to drop everything and scramble to get there.

Obviously I'd like to just tell him that I can't do it and he'll have to figure out another time but, unfortunately, we have a lot of other people I work with waiting on this stuff. So blowing this guy off impacts way more coworkers than just me and can put them into a bind. So, I don't have much of a choice in that respect. Unfortunately I also don't have any pull to threaten this company with losing our business either, since they are a preferred vendor and have been for many years. I could tell him, "look I need you to be more respectful of my time or else we're gonna go somewhere else" but he knows that decision gets made way above my head and completely outside my department.

It's just infuriating that I have go through this every few weeks and no matter how proactive I am about scheduling ahead of time and underscoring the advance warning I need, this guy just either isn't willing or isn't capable of respecting my time.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:52 (one week ago) link

If you are late to meet the guy, is he obligated to wait for you? If so, maybe being late would be a good passive-aggressive way to get your point across. I would think that having to sit around and wait for 20 minutes, an hour, what have you, would make this guy more prone to advance scheduling

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 21:57 (one week ago) link

That thought crossed my mind, honestly have no idea if that would work or just make him worse tbh.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 22:30 (one week ago) link

Yeah stop rewarding him by turning up when he calls, hes assuming you still can.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 22:51 (one week ago) link

Could you work it on your side to get one of those other on campus employees to meet him?

nickn, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 05:50 (one week ago) link

that other employee being Joey Bananas who will have a "heart to heart" with him?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:15 (one week ago) link


I've tried reaching out to a couple supervisors that might be able to help but, y'know, I think it's falling into that "well that sounds like extra responsibility for me that I don't wanna take on" k-hole and will remain unanswered, but we'll see.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:36 (one week ago) link

dying of laughter right now. This is why my company has stagnated.

5 years ago, we decided to upgrade our call handling platform. ALL teams were supposed to move to it. That became an impossibility almost immediately, because inexplicably, our contracts had standard language about a type of encryption that our new platform was unable to support (without us paying an exorbitant amount of money). our sales execs and our technology team were not communicating. so every client with that language COULDN'T use the new platform. and other clients demanded that language in their contract. so we've had half of our teams on the old platform, half new for 5 years, but we've been telling them eventually we'll get closer to 100%.

Today, I'm told we're abandoning the new platform and going back to the old one, and just changing our case management system. Years ago, we similarly moved 4 teams to a new platform of user content, only to roll it back almost immediately after as we realized it is terrible. We just abort project after project.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:55 (one week ago) link

you should be a visionary and introduce them to the “fail fast” methodology

they’ve got half of it right

mh, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:52 (one week ago) link

Dayjob client: has been letting past-due accounts slide for years to the point where she has 11 owing four figures and two more owing five figures (and another 15 or so with no payment in years), and I have dutifully sent out invoices and account statements with additional interest and rebilling charges, but yesterday I'd had enough and asked if I needed to keep doing this. Obviously it's long past time for her to take charge of shit and start chasing payment. Part of the problem is that a lot of the very late accounts stem from an annually-renewing directory listing that is opt-out rather than opt-in, and if she actually did anything about it, let's say drop the listings for which there hasn't been payment, the directory would drop to about 40% of its previous size and the financial problems would be obvious to everyone left.

2nd job: one of the servers seems to have trouble processing or retaining info. She's been working there for months and still comes up to me saying things like "I need a Coors...Life? (checks order pad) Light? In a bottle? Does that come in a bottle?" It's possible she may just be high as a fucking kite.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:28 (one week ago) link

haha that last one

kinder, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:51 (one week ago) link

Goddammit. Now I'm hearing "Coors Life" to the tune of "Pop Life."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:08 (one week ago) link

xxp - ugh, my 2nd job has a contract for which we haven't received payment (we are technically subcontractor to this other company that is the main contractor, but we are doing the majority of the work) ... and the contract is with the City, but with this other company as the main contractor, and my co-worker never got any official contract with anyone (as far as I know) that shows they are supposed to pay us for our work. So, it is kinda awkward asking for payment for a contract that doesn't actually exist?

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:05 (one week ago) link

Someone quite a bit senior to me just sent me an email asking 'who do I contact to do X for me?' where X is a thing that this individual has almost certainly had to contact someone about hundreds if not thousands of times before in the normal course of their job. Like, contextually, it's such an absurd and profoundly stupid question that I don't know whether I'm being punked or whether I should call 911 about the aneurysm this person is currently suffering.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:44 (one week ago) link

we have a 'mock' client in our system that we use for training only with fictional customer data, and literally you're taught on that client when you set foot in this building. everybody should know they're not real.

and yet they don't, so projects go on, and these people see the mock client on the list of clients. so we occasionally get requests to do work for them like they're a real client. like today, when I got thrown a series of tasks for a 30+ hour work assignment regarding web chat setup. We aren't going to spend 30 hours to set up live web chat for a fake company, guys.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:55 (one week ago) link

that's not as annoying as the times I still arguments and pushback saying "well they're on the list, we need to do it"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:56 (one week ago) link

additionally, new hires that handle 401(k) calls aren't trained on processing withdrawals or distribution payments, as we want them to build knowledge and comfort before they go through that training, and then come to find out they have the people we just trained doing them, when we didn't train them on how to do it and told them they wouldn't be.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:02 (one week ago) link

totally laughing my ass off at the mock client situation ...

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:34 (one week ago) link

also this reminds me of at various points in an old job I had, which was for a performing arts non-profit called the (Founder's Name) Ensemble, and we would get calls and letters addressed to Mr. Ensemble, and at one point the Founder was trying to make a change to a bank account or discuss a tax issue with the state and the customer service rep said that they could only give that information to "Mr. Ensemble"

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:38 (one week ago) link


Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:47 (one week ago) link

"Is Mr Starbucks with you?"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:47 (one week ago) link

we also have to add a "*DO NOT MAIL*" tag to any fictional client accounts so that the documents don't get created and mailed to the fake people at the fake address, and some idiot on one client team I guess thought it was ridiculous that we had to have that, so they got rid of the "*Do Not Mail*" tags in their acceptance environment.

and I looked, and all these letters got mailed to people who didn't exist at addresses that didn't exist...and then said mail was returned. good use of company money there.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:49 (one week ago) link

omg -- where do these people come from??? (not the fake people, the real ones that do stupid shit)

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:55 (one week ago) link

I don’t work in our retail stores but I sometimes have to stop by to grab stuff or drop off stuff, so I know what the windows look like, which is: drab as fuck. Sloppy. Pale colors against a pale background. Dusty.

My boss asks me for suggestions about getting more customers in (she absolutely won’t do any advertising or marketing) so I tell her we need to make the window displays more eye catching.

Her response is: no one looks at the windows! That’s not what brings ppl in!

This is the same woman whose response to my suggestion years ago that we actually promote the fact that our stuff is locally made was: that’s so gauche!
Eventually we did start promoting it.

just1n3, Thursday, 19 November 2020 20:39 (one week ago) link

you are seriously undervalued, just1n3

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:25 (one week ago) link


people dont look at windows LMAO jfc

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:55 (one week ago) link

One of my UK colleagues has twice now asked me what "RVA" stands for. It is INSANELY well known and common an acronym in telecommunications ("recorded voice annoucement") and this guy being Level 3 for a fucking mobile phone call centre should KNOW THIS SHIT. he always asks me to "dumb down" responses from the phone networks that say things like "site tower degragded performance repair ETA bla date". LIke what else does he think that means GAHHH

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 19 November 2020 22:26 (one week ago) link

a student entered a live training class in MS Teams today where people were actively talking and presenting and typed "I heard class is cancelled today, is that true?"

bit like walking into a McDonald's that's serving customers and saying "I heard you all are closed right now, is that true?"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 November 2020 14:53 (one week ago) link

Xps that’s the thing though - I’m not even suggesting creative solutions, I’m suggesting the most basic things that EVERY other remotely successful business does! I’ve gotta post a photo here one day so you can see how truly bad our windows look. I’m surprised anyone goes into the stores at all.

just1n3, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:27 (one week ago) link

Tonight my boss texts me a picture she took of her computer screen, showing a listing on our website. This is the following exchange:
Her: did u take this photo
Me: no
Her: who put it up
Me: Susan [a former coworkers mum who did all the transition work when we had to change platforms]
Her: how do people buy it

*now I’m confused*

Me: what do you mean?
Her: Well it is saying you can buy the shirts
I wondered how?
Me: by hitting “add to cart”???
Her: you knew about the photos. I guess that’s what meant
Me: I still don’t understand
Her: I googled [our business] and all these odd shirts came up
I was surprised

*still confused but feeling a sense of dawning understanding and horror and what she’s getting at*

Me: that’s our website
Her: Ok so it links to our website
I didn’t realize that would happen!
I didn’t think google went into our website!!
Me: It goes into every website ever
Her: news to me!!

I mean Jesus Christ the website was right there in the url. But this is the same person who also asked what our “web address” is when she actually meant “email” (she has repeatedly called it our “web address”) and wants to start promoting our business on Twitter (?!??!??!!) even though I’ve been telling her for a year that we need to be focusing on Instagram

just1n3, Sunday, 22 November 2020 10:07 (one week ago) link

please never leave this job, as long as she is willing to keep blindly funding it for years and occasionally thinking "what is... shop?" before making a noise like a stepped-on balloon, we will cherish the content

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 22 November 2020 10:17 (one week ago) link

She has by some miracle had this same business for close to 40 yrs

just1n3, Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:07 (one week ago) link

I mentioned this on the careers advice thread but I'm getting made redundant soon. It has been an absolute disaster.

- our branch is at risk of closure but if it doesn't close then my job role is being eliminated anyway in restructuring, for a replacement position which is 1/3 less salary.

- so if we stay open I'm meant to finish in the middle of December. But if the branch is closing then all of us are finishing at... some point in the future, that could be any time between December and March, yet to be decided. So we pointed out that if I get made redundant, there would still be a need to hire a replacement for what could be as little as four weeks, which obviously makes no sense. It took two weeks for Head Office to realise that yes this might be an issue and put a pause on the redundancy process.

- meanwhile despite knowing I'm getting made redundant at some point imminently, I can't really start applying for new jobs in good faith because I don't know when my last day would be yet, and if I leave before I'm redundant I lose out on the payment, which is significant enough to not be worth abandoning.

- if the branch stays open for now, it could still end up closing in a year or two years. So if you take a new contract on reduced pay then 12 weeks later you're made redundant, you've thrown away a considerable chunk of a redundancy pay-out as your payoff is worked out on the past three months of earnings. This isn't just our branch but every branch. So as you would expect, anyone eligible for redundancy is taking it because it's too big a gamble to risk losing out on several thousand pounds.

- our H.O has obviously been banking on people panicking and taking a lesser contract, not realising that all the people they're "restructuring" have long service and are all eligible for a good payoff, while knowing there's no future in retail.

- so this week I had to have a ridiculous conversation with a grandboss three levels up who wanted to know why I wasn't applying for the new position. "Given the choice between leaving with a good payout, or staying in a job being paid a third less, I think it's quite obvious why." The seniors are spooked now they've realised they've basically forced out their most experienced, expert staff and are going to have to replace them with people who won't have the knowledge, and with the new contracts they won't get any level of committment from them either.

The whole thing has been a fucking nightmare. It's stressful enough being made redundant without having the people making you redundant clearly have no planning or foresight.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:37 (one week ago) link

(I mean if you think that post is confusing... try living through it and trying to plan your immediate future)

boxedjoy, Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:38 (one week ago) link

sincere sorry for your situation, delighted "eat shit" to your bosses

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:54 (one week ago) link

Guy briefing us today has an assistant to work the magic next slide button in PowerPoint (coz it's so fucking hard to click and speak) and instead of saying "next slide please" is going with "okaaayyy Richie FLASH FORWARD noooowww!"

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 11:10 (two days ago) link

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