John Cleese; is he funny?

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counterpoint: yes minister did brexit

mark s, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:22 (four years ago) link

fawlty towers is a documentary, written by connie booth abt the inside of her soon-to-be ex-husband's absurd head: it is funny! connie booth is funny!

also her ex-husband

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:26 (four years ago) link

the fawlt in the timeline

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link

love that bit where he hilariously falls through a bar and then starts self-flagellating with a twig till he bleeds to death.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

beating up the famine-thin oirish yokel is a classic

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link

O'RLY

mark s, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

The contractor?

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

Orelly man.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

just spent a few minutes reading orly taitz's wiki page, thx for the reminder of a more innocent age of rightwing nuttery

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

Orelly man.

Yes, exactly, almost posted that myself

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link

So, what's those "all my friends from abroad" about, is that like "Coloured Brethren" or some such?

Mark G, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

he lives in the caribbean so maybe "abroad" means the uk

the phrase "i opined" rarely signals worthwhile content imo

mark s, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link

"mused Cleese"

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 12:40 (four years ago) link

friends from abroad = the Americans, Terry Gilliam and Eric Idle

(this is a joke, as Eric Idle has no friends)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

If some twitter japester hasn’t cunningly jiggled around the letters on the fawlty towers sign so it now reads ‘fucking cunt’ then I shall be sorely disappointed

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

this guy's brain has been shit soup for more than 50 years

As part of the research I'm doing for the programme on woke attitudes, I'd like to ask this:

Are wokes bothered by the lack of diversity in Putin's army ?

— John Cleese (@JohnCleese) March 3, 2022

mark s, Saturday, 5 March 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

i wouldn't go back that far but the past five years or so of him on twitter has been 75% unbearable. Eric Idle presents as a much more tolerant and likable person which surprises me because for years I thought he was a twat.

akm, Saturday, 5 March 2022 17:49 (two years ago) link

i checked my numbers and they're in fact correct

mark s, Saturday, 5 March 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

(xp) He is a twat but Cleese is a thousand times worse.

Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 March 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

I had no idea woke was a noun now.

the new sound in retro-prog (Matt #2), Saturday, 5 March 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

everything is a noun

Nordle (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 March 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

Worst thing about Cleese's current steez is he still pretends he's exploring the issues with an open mind, the cowardly sniveling cunt

Nordle (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 March 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

Are wokes bothered by the lack of diversity in Putin's army ?

Just another open-minded guy askin' questions

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 5 March 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link

I checked Tom’s numbers and they're in fact correct

bad luck banging, or Lorna Doone (sic), Saturday, 5 March 2022 21:12 (two years ago) link

always despised the hideous cunt. ha ha ha I'm going to hit a car with a branch and shout very loudly - instant brit comedy classic. Him and Baddiel should be dropped from a helicopter into a volcano before they make any more tv programs.

calzino, Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:10 (two years ago) link

fawlty towers is good and that falls within the 50-year range but i suspect the good things about it are mostly due to connie booth

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:21 (two years ago) link

Fawlty Towers is good and I think a lot of it is due to John Cleese but nonetheless he is still a dick.

Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link

Controp: the latest series of The Righteous Gemstones is far funnier than anything Cleese ever did, including with Python.

calzino, Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:41 (two years ago) link

but this puts me in the invidious position of admitting that comedy is good... grr!

calzino, Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:43 (two years ago) link

cleese is for sure some of why fawlty towers is funny -- bcz connie booth knew how to deploy his silly walks and moves and also his obnoxious and stunted persona (aka the real him)

mark s, Sunday, 6 March 2022 12:01 (two years ago) link

Person who is a dick unsurprisingly good at portraying a character who is a dick.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 6 March 2022 12:28 (two years ago) link

I could never stand that show. So shouty.

Sam Weller, Sunday, 6 March 2022 12:35 (two years ago) link

I think someone else could have played Fawlty - Leonard Rossiter for instance. The physical comedy would have been slightly different and the class based humour would have played differently but it would have been just as funny.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 6 March 2022 12:37 (two years ago) link

this crop of aging famous dudes who stroke out over woke-ism are so limp and lazy with their “zings” it seems like they mostly end up undermining their point. but then I remember who the intended audience is and it’s like oh right you really can’t fumble this

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Sunday, 6 March 2022 13:08 (two years ago) link

yeah, its not worth getting too het up about an eighty something yr old comedian lads if anyone that matters is listening its to stoke their own rage reactors

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 March 2022 14:43 (two years ago) link

Idle posted several tweets about how electing Corbyn would lead to communism and how creators like him would him would have all their property and wealth stolen. He also called him a cunt. All around the 2019 election. Idle is dead to me.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link

None of us has any idea how the Fawlty Towers scripts were written and which of Cleese and Booth, if any, was the dominant one in the writing partnership.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:20 (two years ago) link

i know exactly how they were written (the good funny stuff: all connie booth)

mark s, Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

electing Corbyn would lead to communism and how creators like him would him would have all their property and wealth stolen


jfc these fucking dorks

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link

Unless you were in the room with them while they were writing it, which I doubt, I don't think you do. xp

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 6 March 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

no i do

mark s, Sunday, 6 March 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link

there's actually going to be a whole episode of Cleese's new podcast about wokes where he confesses to this

Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 March 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link

it's clearly contrarian to write Cleese's career off. I think everything he did through a Fish Called Wanda is pretty excellent, and that includes some of the odd films he appeared in like Clockwise and Privates on Parade. His drop off post-Wanda was precipitous though. Anyway I'll just pretend he died after making that film.

akm, Sunday, 6 March 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link

Connie Booth supposedly had more to do with the plotting and making sure the scripts made sense. I imagine Cleese did the shouty bits

Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 March 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link

Wonder which of them was responsible for the badly-dated caricature that is Manuel?

the new sound in retro-prog (Matt #2), Sunday, 6 March 2022 17:48 (two years ago) link

didn't he start getting therapy at some point? I think I've seen people theorize that he stopped being funny because the therapy made him better adjusted and therefore less shouty and stunted etc.

soref, Sunday, 6 March 2022 18:02 (two years ago) link

xps to anagram afraid this is true, Connie Booth’s ghost appeared to me in a dream and confirmed it

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 6 March 2022 18:06 (two years ago) link

he went through tons of therapy in the late 80's I believe, he wrote two books with his therapist. I read one of them (families and how to survive them).

akm, Sunday, 6 March 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link

And he's emerged from therapy a king-size wanker.

Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 March 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

who knew therapy made you a senile unfunny bigot?

Nordle (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 March 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link


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