Did he peak with the early fantasies? Or was "Red Shift" not only his masterpiece but *the* masterpiece of the 1970s, the encapsulation of that decade's doubts and nerves?
I say the latter, naturally
― robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 23 November 2002 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris browning (commonswings), Saturday, 23 November 2002 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
elidor is peerless
the owl service is interesting cz it's built on the eternal return of a class-conflict triangle whose specific cultural manifestation couldn't have survived the 60s (ie though great it's also a bit of a period piece) => "she is wanting to be flowers but he is making her owls"
i haven't reread red shift for years, and i'm not sure where my copy of it is
WoB and MoG do suffer from too much knock-off tolkienism, i think (i hate cadellin silverbow and angharad goldenwotsis, and the aragorn clone is EVEN MORE BORING THAN ARAGORN) - i like the seven lesb horsewarriors who nearly take the girl with them, and wild edric is of course a classic shropshire legend merely borrowed by the mancs
haha pelis the false!! what a great soubriquet!!
― mark s the false (mark s), Saturday, 23 November 2002 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually there are few writers more universally recommendable - how many writers are there who are exciting, original, readable by kids and respected by adults wanting serious literature?
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 23 November 2002 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― minna (minna), Saturday, 23 November 2002 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link
*A good writer but an idiot critic. She once claimed that you could tell that a book was great if you could remember the names of three characters in it!
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 23 November 2002 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 November 2002 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
There's other stuff going on in them too, obviously. I read the 'grownup' (i mean, the 'kids' trilogy is all about death and religion) ones recently and liked them a whole lot, although I think in terms of narrative and also for uh sense of wonder, or whatever the term SF hedz use is, the 'kids' three might be better. it's been a while and i need to reread them.
(And Garner I haven't read since junior school so him I need to look up)
(does anyone in this bitch like Joan Aiken?)
― thom west (thom w), Sunday, 24 November 2002 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
i just found and started rereading red shift: the first scene is so teeth-grindingly horrible — in a good-writing way i guess — that i think i never properly engaged with it as a teen; anyway there's scads of it i had totally forgotten
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 24 November 2002 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
'The Owl Service' - the superb tv version of which I DO remember banging on abt on some ILE thread or other - is still my fave: I have a nice hardback ex-library copy from Cleeve Park School (wherever that is), w/ a cool 60s dustcover and some v. pretty endpapers. (The H/C of 'Red Shift also has a gd spooky cov and mystical alphabetical endpapers.)
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 24 November 2002 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 24 November 2002 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
well, from my very dim childhood memories i'm gonna say classic (it stuck in my brain this long)
― H (Heruy), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I think I would have done - did you not have a 'pregnancy project' in primary school?
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Hey, so there's a new sequel to Weirdstone of Brismagen/Moon of Gomrath out. Who knew. Anyone read it?
― Number None, Monday, 24 December 2012 01:41 (eight years ago) link
Backlisted podcast informs me he has a new one out! Had totally assumed he was dead I have to admit.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 22 November 2021 13:46 (one week ago) link
I've been listneing to ti as an audiobook. It's suitably weird.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 22 November 2021 16:11 (one week ago) link