Housekeeping 2024 aka how do you keep house (like cleaning it and stuff)

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Magic Erasers truly are magic

Having a vacuum I don't despise makes vacuuming almost a pleasure (granted I only have 900 sq feet of hardwood to maintain)

Tell me about how you keep house

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 22 January 2024 18:57 (six months ago) link

In my part of the house I follow the advice of Quentin Crisp: "There is no need to do any housework at all. After the first four years the dirt doesn't get any worse."

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Monday, 22 January 2024 18:59 (six months ago) link

If it hasn't been done already, we should probably talk about this book, the author of which is completely insane imo:

https://www.amazon.com/Home-Comforts-Science-Keeping-House/dp/0743272862/ref=monarch_sidesheet

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 22 January 2024 18:59 (six months ago) link

I have a copy but I've been too intimidated to read any of it

Brad C., Monday, 22 January 2024 19:01 (six months ago) link

I mean just give it a gander, feel the inferiority of however you keep house.

I am fairly convinced that 90% of surface cleaning can be done with a 50/50 vinegar/water mixture, a 10% bleach solution, and some sort of mild abrasive like Bar Keepers Friend. Oh and some blue Dawn.

Not all at the same time, mind.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 22 January 2024 19:02 (six months ago) link

I change the bedsheets every two weeks, pillowcases every week. I refuse to apologize for this even though I have hot flashes and sweat at night.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 22 January 2024 19:03 (six months ago) link

when a sponge has been demoted from dish washing to wiping up counters and gross stuff, I cut the tip off one of the corners

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 January 2024 21:00 (six months ago) link

last year i bought some kneepads to make scrubbing less painful and it has helped. i use fabuloso on the floors and mop irregularly. i have two sets of the same towels and rotate them out as i wash the other ones. at the end of every semester for the last 2.5 years i have deep cleaned while listening to student podcast final projects, which helps me get both things done.

historically i have had a lot of shame and anxiety around housekeeping my whole life and getting to a point where i feel better about it, even a little, is a positive development.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:07 (six months ago) link

i am good at: laundry, planning/shopping/chopping/cooking.
i kind of suck at everything else but i try my best; it's just not very good.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:08 (six months ago) link

any advice on getting the pink stuff out of grout? what a nightmarish scourge.

omar little, Monday, 22 January 2024 21:13 (six months ago) link

Do you mean mold? You can scrub with baking soda, or you could simply resort to bleach.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2024 21:16 (six months ago) link

I am the worst at housework and my partner is even worse (with the usual male domestic blindness ie "its not that bad!"). Add to this a house that is in great disrepair (stained torn 30 year old carpets, tiles and toilets that never come clean no matter what I bomb them with, dust, mould, etc) and I just want to commit seppuku sometimes. I haaaate this house, but if you know the state of the rental market in my city you'd know why we've put up with.

Maybe a really anal loves-cleaning person could git it gud, but we just cant. I'd kill for a dishwasher, and carpetless floors so I could get a roomba.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:19 (six months ago) link

That post brought to you by having had to spend 3 solid days of my annual holiday engaged in really tough spring cleaning because we'd let everything go to shit for like a whole year.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:19 (six months ago) link

Any idea what is under the carpets? Oftentimes, it's wood floor in pretty good condition, which is preferable to gross carpet. Even if the wood is pretty beat up, carpets get gross. Better to just rip that shit up and refinish the floors.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2024 21:21 (six months ago) link

Can anyone vouch for roombas? They seem like fools gold. How often do you have to empty them out or recharge them? How do your pets interact with them? Do you find yourself needing to mop less frequently? How loud are they?

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:24 (six months ago) link

We have a cheap one. It's constantly getting stuck on furniture and missing stuff, but it's kind of good to just clean up stuff by the baseboards, and obviously it's always vacuuming stuff from between the cracks, whether we see it or not. I mostly use it to vacuum the bathroom after I trim my beard or give myself a haircut.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2024 21:26 (six months ago) link

LOL we rent, we cant be tearing up carpets and shiz.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:32 (six months ago) link

robovac fine for dust and pet hair amd crumbs but not a gamechanget.in terms of tradeoff between the hassle of setting it up and keeping it running

money was far better spent on a decent shark for the floor and especially a small handheld vac that plugs into a base and empties in one click for countertops and quick spot/stair cleans, thats really proven to be worth having

we got a decent sized laundry basket with two compartments each of which just pulls out into drawstring bags

actually experimenting with the settings/washes of the laundry and dishwasher cycles has helped with organising/scheduling

one standard generic surface cleanser does everything above ground in kitchen, cant beat bleach for the loos

oh and i caved to a deal for a karcher window vac and its actually brilliant

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:34 (six months ago) link

We did a days-long deep clean as soon as we arrived in our new apartment (and paid the management company to repaint the place before we got here). Basically one room per day, scrubbing it down from ceiling to floor. It wasn't super filthy but there was something ritualistic/baptismal about it and it made my wife much less anxious about the move generally, so a definite plus. Now we do regular housecleaning about once a month, maybe? We wash the bedding more frequently, though — at least once every two weeks. Having a washer and dryer in the unit helps with that. I used to be the person who walked to the laundromat every Friday, getting up at 5 AM to be there when they opened at 6, lugging a giant duffel bag on my back. That sucked.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 22 January 2024 21:34 (six months ago) link

my building fortunately has a coin op laundry room.. I'm constantly hoarding quarters for that

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 January 2024 22:53 (six months ago) link

My last building had coin op Speed Queen machines and I was able to find the key for it online and the proper button combination to bypass having to pay. Would highly recommend b/c fuck landlords.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:59 (six months ago) link

Does anyone else ever clean the shower while showering? I'll sometimes bring in a scrubby pad and work on the tiles

I've even hand washed a wool sweater while showering, using shampoo... I figure wool is hair, so why not?

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 22 January 2024 23:13 (six months ago) link

Xp to Omar

Grout fucking sucks! Try sprinkling baking soda over it and pouring hydrogen peroxide on top, then scrub. It’s porous, so any non-neutral cleaner you use, you need to make sure you rinse it with water afterwards, because I think the chemical action involves dissolving the very top layer. We have these 3” hexagonal tiles in our bathroom with white grout (god, so much grout) and it’s impossible to get it white.

Also fuck grouting on shower walls.

Apparently steam cleaners are the way to go.

just1n3, Monday, 22 January 2024 23:22 (six months ago) link

This is the best housekeeping book:
https://www.amazon.com/How-Keep-House-While-Drowning/dp/B09Q9WXPGV

just1n3, Monday, 22 January 2024 23:24 (six months ago) link

Steam mops aren't that effective on grout, imo. But they are good for mopping floors, especially in the winter, when everyone is tracking in salty snow.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2024 23:30 (six months ago) link

https://www.amazon.com/Sink-Reflections-Overwhelmed-Disorganized-Discover/dp/0553382179/

This book helped me get out of a noncleaning spiral, and put together a weekly housecleaning ("home blessing," in this book's terms) that I can do in a couple of hours Saturday morning. I have discovered that I am happy when I know that I have done the necessary cleaning, and feel entitled to kick back.

That said, now that I have moved in with my mother, the next phase will be to have a housecleaning service come in maybe once a month.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 22 January 2024 23:53 (six months ago) link

Xp not a mop, and steam shot cleaner

just1n3, Monday, 22 January 2024 23:56 (six months ago) link

Yeah the pink stuff has a specific name that I'm forgetting right now, it's not the usual mold but something even more stubborn. The grout on the shower floor tiles is easier to clean but the walls, forget about it. White grout from ceiling to approx knee height and then it gets pink. I've been able to clean it to a pale gray before but that's about it. It's a lesson for future home renovations.

omar little, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:05 (six months ago) link

i had that home comforts book, which I was prompted to buy because of an article in Salon a million years ago I think. The only thing I remember is that it had a decent 'how to get a duvet into a cover' section.

i vacuum like 2x a week and there is still hair everywhere; my wife's, my son's, the dogs. maybe some of mine too.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:17 (six months ago) link

the small wire brush you might use to thin out the dogs coats make a killer job of refreshing/defluffing carpets/mats

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:21 (six months ago) link

I kind of suck at it, i mostly just let it go until i can be bothered. (rare)

mr veg is good at upkeep stuff like keeping the stovetop clean / doing laundry / changing sheets / washing kitchen floor

i mostly fold laundry, vacuum the rugs, dust-mop hardwood floors, general dusting, occasionally polish the dining room table

bathroom cleaning is my job and i don’t do it nearly as regularly as i should
on the upside it looks REALLY good when its clean bc it stays dingy for so long lol

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:41 (six months ago) link

Tips on soap scum or water residue seemingly baked into glass shower panels? I have a handful of ‘guaranteed’ removers that were temp solutions, so thinking it’s a done deal. They’re not opaque but definitely not clear. Now I squeegee after each shower, so condition is static.

A New Year’s resolution is to increase cleanings as well as order the house more by donating unused items, and using what I keep.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:43 (six months ago) link

yeah my hair and both stepson's hair (long curly and black urrrgh) is EVERYWHERE, and then theres the cat....

That book Jus posted looks good! but I dont think kindle versh available in au :(

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:44 (six months ago) link

One tip I'mma need is cleaing the oven, Ive let it remain uncleaned/baked on crap for like years, no joke. I dont think Mr Muscle is gonna cut it somwehow :(

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:45 (six months ago) link

Most of my studio apartment has old oak hardwood floors. I just sweep, and maybe mop once a year, with diluted vinegar... I just use a damp sponge if there's some obvious spill

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:50 (six months ago) link

soap scum on glass - 1 part vinegar 1 part dawn dish soap - spray on & let it sit for at least half an hour

i did this on my mums shower & it works great. you might have to go at it with a scrubbing briush though, if its really caked on

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:50 (six months ago) link

ooh ill have to try that combo, our shower's a bit mank even after a clean.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 00:53 (six months ago) link

Yes, thanks! Vinegar/baking soda was one of the unsuccessful methods I tried, but I’m pro-Dawn’s effectiveness. Elbow grease with music playing is my zen experience, so don’t mind scrubbing.

Re: ovens, just saw this today and thought I’d try it. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2KtUHLR8Vd/. The self-clean option damaging ovens isn’t something I’d heard, but the super heat makes me nervous when I’ve done it.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 01:13 (six months ago) link

i inherited a white enamel kitchen sink (ugh why) & after years of all kinds of commercial cleaners i now do baking soda, damp paper towels laid over top & vinegar on top & man it works great

kind of a process to set it up but gleaming every time now

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 01:19 (six months ago) link

huh, I wonder if that work work on my bathtub.. it's from like the 1920's and I've tried letting bleachy water soak in there, but it goes grey again really fast

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 01:27 (six months ago) link

The self-cleaning oven is the single greatest invention ever.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 02:27 (six months ago) link

I really don't know how to clean years of baked-in stuff. Maybe try the overnight spray to get at least the worst of it.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 02:30 (six months ago) link

Otherwise, I'm afraid you'll have to take the oven out back and shoot it.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 02:32 (six months ago) link

huh, I wonder if that work work on my bathtub.. it's from like the 1920's and I've tried letting bleachy water soak in there, but it goes grey again really fast

sounds more likely that the enamel is worn away and there's no way to fix that aside from retting it re-enameled.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 04:23 (six months ago) link

LOL that IG video starts with an oven I'd regard as already clean >_<

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 04:41 (six months ago) link

I am the worst at housework and my partner is even worse (with the usual male domestic blindness ie "its not that bad!"). Add to this a house that is in great disrepair (stained torn 30 year old carpets, tiles and toilets that never come clean no matter what I bomb them with, dust, mould, etc) and I just want to commit seppuku sometimes. I haaaate this house, but if you know the state of the rental market in my city you'd know why we've put up with.

feeling this and in a similar situation. also it feels like everytime we manage to save some money to fix or replace something, something else breaks down. like i'm sooo tired of broken TVs, and broken ovens, and blown lightbulbs, and nothing being fixed in a timely manner.

I also hate that thing where you spend a whole weekend cleaning, decluttering, vacuuming but by Monday you'd have no idea it happened cause somehow it's all in a mess again. (we live with a teenager, my mother-in-law and three cats)

Roz, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 04:59 (six months ago) link

yeah our bathroom & kitchen are kind of old & falling apart so even perfunctory cleaning feels pointless bc it never really -looks- properly clean

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 05:21 (six months ago) link

Scampering alpaca: try a blade tool like this for scraping off really stubborn soap scum.
Titan 17002 2-Piece Multi-Purpose and Mini Razor Scraper Set https://a.co/d/fG40pe6
Scraping with a blade is an underrated cheat code. Also, if you have hard water, that’ll make the soap scum situation worse (you can get a cheap shower head filter for about $35).

My understanding is that baking soda and vinegar neutralize each other and create a salt, so any cleaning action you get out of it is mostly manual and not chemical.

Self cleaning ovens seem a bit sketchy: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/should-you-use-oven-self-cleaning-setting/

just1n3, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 06:25 (six months ago) link

I know two separate people who bought a book called "Laundry love: finding joy in a common chore" by some housekeeping guru. I thought I took life pretty seriously, but clearly I'm just an amateur.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 08:28 (six months ago) link

I love doing laundry. There is something very satisfying about putting away stacks of clean clothes.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 15:52 (six months ago) link

What I like:
-- I love laundry and making the bed, especially with some sort of middlebrow culture podcast. Approach work methodically, and in solitude, feels very relaxing and civilising.

What I don't like:
-- My partner and I are quite both good and attentive at cleaning and tidying and yet somehow it generates the worst and most frequent arguments we have, much more than Our Differing Opinions on Childcare.

What I feel powerless to change:
I wish I was better at letting things be untidy after my daughter goes to bed, but I feel like I can't relax without some sort of "adult-izing tidy", which always takes me too long (30-45 mins a night) and means I never get to sit down and relax (or sit down and study for school) earlier than 930, which is annoying. Why can't I let it go????

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 16:05 (six months ago) link

there's a whole new anti-laundry movement (stella mccartney, etc.) that says we wash our clothes way too often, they get worn out in the machines, bad for the environment, etc. I hate doing laundry so I'm leaning into this somewhat grubby vibe

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:59 (six months ago) link

I bought a bunch of good quality wool sweaters over Christmas so I had to learn to handwash... and it's ridiculously easy?
Laundry and handling clean clothes is also something I enjoy.
I cook and do the dishes twice a day with pleasure, even though I rarely return the kitchen to its state of primal perfection and get scolded for it.
I do am sensitive to the way a tidy house brings peace of mind, and I try, but also leave things around.
I hate moping because I feel like it takes so much time and I'm OCD about forgetting a corner.
I hate ironing, it's the devil, I only do my shirts and wear them as little as possible.
Another that take too much time and makes me lazy is cleaning the fridge.

Sometimes hosting is just the motivation one needs to make the place shine. Otherwise the standard is once a week and a bit lower. A clean house is the sign of a wasted life.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:03 (six months ago) link

there's a whole new anti-laundry movement (stella mccartney, etc.) that says we wash our clothes way too often, they get worn out in the machines, bad for the environment, etc. I hate doing laundry so I'm leaning into this somewhat grubby vibe

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:59 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

ive taken to doing this with some of the obvious garments- jumpers and trousers- and its good, subject to having a suitable place to hang them (cool, bit of air, no smells)

did it after reading about how much it extends the lifetime of clothes, im trying to buy better & less often

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:45 (six months ago) link

anything that spends the day fully next to skin is gonna need washed as a rule tho, that's my line on that as far as it goes

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:46 (six months ago) link

just1n3, will buy that. Thanks for the link! Am due for an Amazon order. Will try with the Dawn/vinegar mix.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 21:21 (six months ago) link

> "last year i bought some kneepads to make scrubbing less painful and it has helped."

Yeah, I use one of those gardening knee pads for some cleaning indoors.

> I also hate that thing where you spend a whole weekend cleaning, decluttering, vacuuming but by Monday you'd have no idea it happened cause somehow it's all in a mess again.

Yeah, this can feel so wearying.

djh, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 21:33 (six months ago) link

A scraper blade is also the answer to cleaning the oven.

I’m trying to figure out how to most efficiently clean my stovetop. I’m used to enameled cast iron stoves but this is a new stove and it’s just cast iron. The flat plate thingy (I don’t know what you call it - like a grilling plate? Idk it has elements under it and it’s a solid rectangle of cast iron) is pretty dirty and scrubbing it didn’t do anything. The only cast iron cookware I have is enameled so idk what to do without damaging it.

just1n3, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 21:58 (six months ago) link

salt and a wire brush used to do it when i last worked in a kitchen if im remembering cast iron correctly

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:00 (six months ago) link

there’s this Shout stuff that smells like green apple candy that works well

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:10 (six months ago) link

Wait not Shout… Dawn Powerwash

Talking about for stovetops

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:11 (six months ago) link

My wife loves Dawn Powerwash. Uses it on the stovetop and on the walls of the shower.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:33 (six months ago) link

not sure if I've ever loved a cleaning product

maybe Bar-Keepers Friend?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:34 (six months ago) link

The only thing I have ever found that truly removed built up hard water mineral stains from glass windows and glass shower doors is a product called CLR Bio-Clean. It's what the professional glass shower door repair person used.

I like the Pink Stuff spray version. It's like a Bar-Keeper's Friend that smells nice.

felicity, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 01:17 (six months ago) link

I think my main kvetch with really good cleaners esp for soap scum and ovens is how intensely toxic they all seem to smell. Even when they're "lemony" or whatever, they smell sickening.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 07:58 (six months ago) link

there's a whole new anti-laundry movement (stella mccartney, etc.) that says we wash our clothes way too often, they get worn out in the machines, bad for the environment, etc. I hate doing laundry so I'm leaning into this somewhat grubby vibe

― Andy the Grasshopper

my housekeeping style can best be described as "severe clinical depression". i'm really trying to adjust to living on my own and taking care of a place by myself, which i've never really been able to do before. i got a lot of emotional baggage wrapped up in it, there are, you know, these gendered stereotypes about men not being able to keep house. like, yeah, i absolutely was the "man-child" who was unable to take care of himself. so i feel a lot of guilt and shame about not being great at keeping house - it's the least productive thing ever, because every time i try to clean i gotta confront that shit, but i feel how i feel.

i try to engage in positive self-talk - like, i'm doing so much better than i was last year when i didn't get out of bed for three months! my friends do worry about me a lot, though. laundry has been particularly difficult for me since i moved into this apartment. it's got a coin laundry downstairs and doing laundry is just really emotionally challenging for me. a lot of times it has to wait until i can get somebody to come over and body double with me while i do laundry. so i constantly have just enormous piles of laundry sitting around waiting to be washed, or, like, evaluated to see if they need to be washed.

that's another thing - i live alone. if i don't clean, it doesn't really matter to anyone but me, which, uh, doesn't necessarily play well with my ludicrously poor self-esteem. it's complicated... in the Before Time, I wouldn't wash my clothes on the grounds of "whatever, it doesn't matter if what i wear fits or is clean, i'll always be a disgusting man"... also, i didn't have much of a sense of smell. i didn't notice.. like, i didn't smell gamer-bad, but i didn't always smell like roses. since the estrogen, i just don't smell as strongly as i used to, so i don't have to wash my clothes as often. it's also economical... i wear a lot of fast fashion, and that stuff falls apart pretty easily. the less i wash it, the longer it lasts.

the final thing i deal with is ADHD, which means that i just don't _notice_ clutter or dirt a lot of the time. a lot of my cleaning is me having a good day and noticing, for example, "hey, wait, these counters are filthy", and doing a thorough scrub. it's not ideal, but it keeps me from quentin crisp levels of cleanliness.

probably TMI, but whatever.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 13:56 (six months ago) link

I find it much easier to do most chores when I've got the house to myself and some fun music blaring so it becomes less about getting the task done and more about incorporating dancing into the cleaning motions.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 16:20 (six months ago) link

wfh days are great laundry days

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 16:53 (six months ago) link

I wfh all the time so I try to fit small chores in when theres a lull even if its just a quick load of dishes or clothes in the washer.

But yes! I also find cleaning easier when I'm alone, its weird. I guess I feel like I'm not getting in anyones way?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 22:39 (six months ago) link

xp That's why I can't work from home.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 23:01 (six months ago) link

this is my bathroom window

https://i.ibb.co/3f82Smy/IMG-20240124-013720719.jpg

🦒🐘

who else sees them?

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 25 January 2024 02:59 (six months ago) link

Oh totally

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 03:32 (six months ago) link

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any advice on getting the pink stuff out of grout? what a nightmarish scourge.

― omar little, Monday, January 22, 2024 4:13 PM (two days ago)

the only thing that works is this stuff, but it does work https://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-32-fl-oz-Grout-Cleaner-and-Brightener-ZU104632/100619266

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 January 2024 03:38 (six months ago) link

who else sees them?

― Deflatormouse

i see a pretty butterfly

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 25 January 2024 03:40 (six months ago) link

I did some more research on cleaning the cast iron stove grates and apparently - Xp to Darragh - you’re not supposed to use metal on them? I soaked them in boiling hot water and the fanciest (platinum!) Dawn for hours, scrubbed the shit out of them with more Dawn and a nylon scrubbing pad, and they still don’t look much different. I’m gonna try ammonia as a last resort. Also have no idea if I’m supposed to oil them after cleaning? I know that’s the case for pans but not sure if that’s just a cooking-surface thing.

I find that orangey-pink mold way easier to remove then the black stuff. I just got some of that Zep grout cleaner last week, and it did an ok job on the floor grout but it’s useless for shower walls. It’s super thin and the bottle is not practical for wall application.

just1n3, Thursday, 25 January 2024 04:58 (six months ago) link

fair enough

i am clearly not remembering cast iron correctly 😔

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 January 2024 07:40 (six months ago) link

there's a black mold problem in my bathroom. had at it today. the elephant and giraffe are on the outside of the window and were spared.
X-14 is the only thing i've found that will clean it without scrubbing and i have mold all over the ceiling.

there are 2 fatal flaws:
-it's the most toxic shit ever
-the spray bottle it comes in locks up after you squeeze it once and you have to wait an eternity for it to release.

i tried putting it in another spray bottle once. it clogged the nozzle after one use and i couldn't dislodge it.

Having a vacuum I don't despise makes vacuuming almost a pleasure (granted I only have 900 sq feet of hardwood to maintain)

What vacuum? Last year i was exposed to bedbugs and bought an Atrix ERGO backpack as a precaution. when the exterminator showed up with the same model, i knew i was onto something. i actually use it, unlike the other vacuums i've owned.

Add to this a house that is in great disrepair (stained torn 30 year old carpets, tiles and toilets that never come clean no matter what I bomb them with, dust, mould, etc) and I just want to commit seppuku sometimes.

yeah it's just a losing battle i feel with an old place in disrepair. i'm generally quite neat and tidy but when your walls start doing this it's hard not to forfeit
https://i.ibb.co/k4wqN8m/IMG-20240125-162630390.jpg

i also have way more stuff than closet space in which to store my stuff and the main closet in my apt has a leaky bathroom on top of it so my makeshift solution has been to line the narrow hallway with huge boxes and hang my clothes in front of the bedroom door which makes it impassable without practically crawling.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:53 (six months ago) link

who else sees them?

The one on the right looks like a camel.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:09 (six months ago) link

I used to use the x-14 too but yeah, the bottle never worked properly and was too caustic for other containers.

just1n3, Friday, 26 January 2024 01:39 (six months ago) link

The vacuum I don't despise (and in fact rather love) is a Dyson, so $$$ but worth it imo.

It is a cordless stick model that converts to a hand-held with two different attachments--I use this feature frequently! Like, I use it to suck up crumbs from the countertop, vacuum the cat bed, etc.

I have gotten rather efficient at getting the whole house (again, only 900ish square feet) done on a single charge while on max power.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 26 January 2024 02:17 (six months ago) link

Oh and it is bagless (do they even make vacuums with bags anymore?) and very easy to empty.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 26 January 2024 02:18 (six months ago) link

My favorite janky bathroom in a former rental had mushrooms sprouting out of the pasteboard walls by the shower. Not just fungus but toadstools.

I'm way late to the vacuum bot discussion, but fwiw we are big Roborock fans here. We have wood and tile floors for the most part, and it works really well on them, but also pretty well on the carpeted rooms upstairs. You have to spend a few minutes prepping for it so it can have clear passage; what we often do is just put everything up and have the bot — we named him Todd Bonzalez — do the whole downstairs while we're out shopping or whatever. And come home to a nice clean house. The mop attachment works reasonably well too for surface stuff, but we still mop as well.

a former rental had mushrooms sprouting out of the pasteboard walls by the shower. Not just fungus but toadstools.

ngl i read this last night and when i went to sleep i had a dream in which a young woman had whole-ass mushrooms growing out of the side of her face. it was the left side and it was covered in mushrooms.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:23 (six months ago) link

I had mushrooms in the shower once, in Southampton in 1999, have video evidence

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:47 (six months ago) link

visited a friend who was at uni in Portsmouth around that time and he had mushrooms in his bathroom too, must be a Hampshire thing

re black mould I get it a bit in my bathroom and on the outside of the bathroom wall which is in the communal corridor. Cillit Bang black mould remover gets rid of it immediately without having to scrub or anything. usually doesn't come back for several months. only get a few spots so it's not a big problem though, might not work on a proper infestation

Colonel Poo, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:15 (six months ago) link

yeah cillit black mould remover is great.

just invested in a squeegee to keep the shower door free of hard water scum, with a spritz of white vinegar each week.

got miele vacuum cleaner that’s on its last legs and is probably over… jesus… maybe 12 years old now?

sugar soap for wall smears and other grime.

also have an extendable feather duster for those hard to reach places and bookshelves. house gets pretty dusty pretty quickly so needs regular housework (not that this is always the case by any means).

looking to replace microfibre cloths i use for dusting - only recently i realised how bad they are for the environment. they do an amazing job of picking up dust tho.

Fizzles, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:25 (six months ago) link

I'm more or less on top of keeping the house relatively neat. It's a fair amount of space, but just me and my son, who mostly keeps to his room, so it doesn't get overly messy.

I deal with dishes and the kitchen countertops on a regular basis throughout the week, I clean the catbox, take out trash, and do some light vacuuming each week. I usually do some laundry every couple weeks, and do some more vacuuming and dusting as needed. The things I really struggle with are mopping, which I hate, and taking care of the yard, which is large and theoretically very nice, but I've let it turn into a wreck, which I'm sure my neighbors hate, but there's a reason I moved into a house with no HOA. I've been telling myself I'll get a landscaper out here to clean it up as soon as I can afford it, but it's been well over a year since I've touched it.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:47 (six months ago) link

For all the hours I spend cleaning week every week, the house is still basically scruffy looking, but it's a clean well kept scruffiness. I need new carpets on the stairs and bedrooms, but I can't afford. So if I'm going to live with scruffy carpets at least they are not dusty as well. Dog hair is a challenge, if I miss one day it's everywhere. I used go into social housing for my job and see people with drug addiction/mental health problems living in abject squalor so frequently that eventually nothing I saw shocked me. Thankfully I've never fallen that far into the mire.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 January 2024 18:28 (six months ago) link

wow, I wish I had a yard to take care of.. I'd be a regular edward scissorhands

Alas, I have some potted plants on my porch that I dote over

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:31 (six months ago) link

yeah i think you have to choose between clean home and dog (dog is the right choice)

i believe all vacuums used for pest control still have dust bags (i prefer vacuums with dust bags).

that cillit cleaner not available in the states (i checked). ah well

Deflatormouse, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:58 (six months ago) link

mushrooms grown in the shower: would you eat? y/n

(def n for me)

anything novel/rare/unusual, mycologically speaking?

Deflatormouse, Friday, 26 January 2024 19:05 (six months ago) link

i should qualify, n for me but my shower has black mold in it.

Deflatormouse, Friday, 26 January 2024 19:05 (six months ago) link

my mom had mushrooms growing in the rear cargo area of her VW Beetle

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 19:19 (six months ago) link

wait whats this about microfibre cloths

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:30 (six months ago) link

love mushrooms!

ꙮ (map), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:41 (six months ago) link

love licking mildew off the walls

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:45 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Re: the shower soap/water residue post a few months ago, a razor scraper did pull off some residue but didn’t clear it entirely. I ordered a bottle of CRL Bio-Clean and some scrub brushes that attach to a power drill, and tried them today. Some elbow grease applying the CRL showed an immediate effect, down to clean glass. I hadn’t used the drill in a while so charging the two battery packs was a delay, but was able to scrub the large pane side then use the powered scrub brush to completely remove the residue. Water now runs cleanly down the pane and squeegeeing is smooth. So happy to see it after a number of dud products. Next, the door and door side panel. Will try a regular cleanser with the drill on the two tile sides.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Saturday, 23 March 2024 03:18 (four months ago) link

It is so damn satisfying when something actually works with stubborn housekeeping problems!

Like Magic Erasers!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 23 March 2024 04:10 (four months ago) link

oooh scrub brush on power drill, i'm so tempted. got a brand rec?

goole, Saturday, 23 March 2024 04:13 (four months ago) link

It is so damn satisfying when something actually works with stubborn housekeeping problems!

Like Magic Erasers!


Magic Erasers! Praise be

sarahell, Saturday, 23 March 2024 04:20 (four months ago) link

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0C8MBNNNC

If this link doesn’t work, it was the Holikme eight piece yellow set from Amazon. So far, one panel using the smaller of the round brushes, the brush held up great. Was worried it’d shed bristles, but no. I bought them to use on the shower, and then to scrub my parents’ fiberglass greenhouse which has collected outdoor scum over the years. For 10 bucks, it’ll be worth it for just those two uses.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Saturday, 23 March 2024 04:32 (four months ago) link

Idk if my drill was just too heavy but I found those brush heads really unwieldy to use. More money but I LOVE this cordless scrubber - extendable handle and holds a decent charge. Particularly great for scrubbing the bathtub.
https://a.co/d/dvR8s7u

just1n3, Saturday, 23 March 2024 06:43 (four months ago) link

PSA, if you do use CRL Bio-Clean, wear kitchen gloves. Did half the glass panels Friday, went out of town, then second half the next Friday. Both times, bare hands scrubbing glass with cleanser on a cloth, plus the drill/brush. Thought my fingertips looked a little shiny yesterday and this Monday morning, a layer of skin is peeling on the tips.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 1 April 2024 19:27 (three months ago) link


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