US Politics, May 2023: May 1 never happened

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weird global event yesterday with the day not happening, hope it doesn't happen again

z_tbd, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 16:58 (one month ago) link

idgi i saw everyone posting May Day memes?

sarahell, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:01 (one month ago) link

I was tempted to try McCarthy's Ghost, glad you jumped in and blocked me

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:02 (one month ago) link

oh no intended comment on may day, or any actual thing that happened yesterday. i was just joking about there being no thread until the 2nd. somebody's gotta make a thread and give it a title, it may as well question the existence of a 24 hour period

z_tbd, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:04 (one month ago) link

Good morning!☕️

The Senate Judiciary Committee is about to begin its post-Clarence-Thomas-ethics-scandal hearing on Supreme Court ethics reform.

Dick Durbin really wants bipartisan action.

Only one GOP senator has proposed doing anything at all.

— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) May 2, 2023

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:49 (one month ago) link

Good retort to Gov Asshole Abbott after last weekend's shooting:

“Why do they discriminate against immigrants so much? In what way are we affecting him? What harm have we caused him?” Josué Rivera told ABC News. “He’s making his living and we’re here to make our own? We don’t care if he wants to make his money through politics – we’re here to make an honorable living.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:54 (one month ago) link

Most elected Dems are not courageous enough to push back against the "illegals" name-calling and to defend the the fact that people are coming here to work and wish the asylum process worked efficiently and allowed them to become US citizens

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 00:13 (one month ago) link

This is how Fetterman is dressed while on his way to the Senate floor to cast a vote. An absolute disgrace.

— Alana Mastrangelo (@ARmastrangelo) May 2, 2023

The replies to this tweet from a breitbart journalist are just dozens of blue check breitbart followers saying “this is good, actually”.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:32 (one month ago) link

Yeah maybe he should be wearing a bunch of Carhartt waving a confederate flag and peeing in the hallways. That might be more their style.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 20:23 (one month ago) link

Manchin has urged Biden to work directly with Speaker Kevin McCarthy and regularly puts out statements pushing for bipartisan talks that show up in GOP press releases. Sinema has quietly dined with McCarthy and signaled her hopes for a negotiated solution to GOP senators.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:07 (one month ago) link

Sinema has quietly dined with McCarthy

and she knows the perfect chenin blanc that will go with that poached halibut

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:14 (one month ago) link

I am a big Fetterman supporter but I would rather he dressed normally.

treeship., Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:35 (one month ago) link

Fuck that

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:46 (one month ago) link

I dunno, he always looks pretty awkward wearing a suit

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 23:53 (one month ago) link

Wasn't he coming back from the gym?

That being said who gives a fuck if he wasn't. This is concern trolling at its finest

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:03 (one month ago) link

I am a big Fetterman supporter but I would rather he dressed normally.

― treeship., Wednesday, May 3, 2023 11:35 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

honest question -- why?

ian, Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:25 (one month ago) link

what is "dressed normally"

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:29 (one month ago) link

Fetterman should wear cargo shorts and Timbs to all affairs of state.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 4 May 2023 00:39 (one month ago) link

he does dress to the senate dress code when he’s in the senate chamber

it plays better to me that he wears what he’s always worn when talking to constituents or campaigning. all kinds of politicians do a little cosplay when campaigning to look like they’re farmers, cowboys, whatever but Fetterman dresses as Fetterman

mh, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:02 (one month ago) link

the brand is strong

Clay, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:04 (one month ago) link

Mother said I must dress like Little Lord Fauntleroy or she shall be ever so cross.

peace, man, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:09 (one month ago) link

CW: that thread contains multiple pictures of a sweaty Ted Cruz

JoeStork, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:11 (one month ago) link

“i simply demand that my politicians look like middle management hacks!” gtfoh with that nonsense

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:16 (one month ago) link

I posted that tweet to point out that even Twitter blue checks who follow breitbart reporters think he dresses ok. Did not expect an actual debate about it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:17 (one month ago) link

My senator has one and a half hands.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:47 (one month ago) link


mh, Thursday, 4 May 2023 05:48 (one month ago) link

I know there’s a NY thread somewhere but I have to say that the both sidesism in the blatant vigilante murder of a homeless individual on the Subway has got me fucking furious. All the news coverage does is confirm that the US hates poor people, disdains those with mental illnesses, and wishes death upon those populations.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 4 May 2023 11:20 (one month ago) link

ftr in NYC last weekend I rode the subway for 95% of my trips, encountered at least four Jordan Neeles, never once felt threatened, no one paid attention to them. No doubt Times Square NIMBYS would've had them all shot.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2023 11:46 (one month ago) link

Between this and the "stand your ground" shootings, it's like we're having a Purge moment here. I bet the Claremont Institute or Heritage Foundation will publish a paper on the social benefits of vigilante violence.

BREAKING: A jury convicted four Proud Boys leaders, including former chairman Enrique Tarrio, of conspiring against the U.S. government on Jan. 6 — but hasn't decided yet whether the man who caused the first breach was part of it.

— Jordan Fischer (@JordanOnRecord) May 4, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:53 (one month ago) link

He's been convicted of other counts, though, so there's that. Basically that guy, Pezzola, seems like more like a meathead who did other shit but wasn't involved in the direct planning. In any event, pretty sweeping victory for the DOJ and a hell of a lot that can be used further in the record -- plus this point about Tarrio, the guy in charge:

Tarrio was NOT at Capitol on Jan 6

A conviction on charge of seditious conspiracy is a huge win for Justice Dept. And a potential piece of enormous leverage for any future defendant who wasn’t at Capitol on Jan 6 … but is considered part of the conspiracy

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) May 4, 2023

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:56 (one month ago) link

Fetterman looks so weird in a suit, it always looks like those weird plotlines in the WWE where one wrestler dresses up to accept some award and winds up eating a Stone Cold Stunner instead

there are photos of him wearing shorts and a sweatshirt in the snow. if he's doing that to embellish his "Midwestern guy" image then he's a brilliant politician. I think that's just who he is though.

frogbs, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:57 (one month ago) link

Tarrio is garbage.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:12 (one month ago) link

Precedent: set.

There have been *14* convictions to seditious conspiracy stemming from Jan. 6

Oath Keepers
1) Stewart Rhodes
2) Kelly Meggs
3) Roberto Minuta
4) Ed Vallejo
5) Joseph Hackett
6) David Moerschel
7) William Todd Wilson (plea)
8) Joshua James (plea)
9) Brian Ulrich (plea)

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 4, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:23 (one month ago) link

Proud Boys
1) Enrique Tarrio
2) Ethan Nordean
3) Joseph Biggs
4) Zachary Rehl
5) Jeremy Bertino (plea)

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 4, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:24 (one month ago) link

there's a lot of dusty old laws on the books that aren't used much anymore ("No eating ice cream on within 50 yards of church on Sunday" etc.), but I'm glad we still have 'seditious conspiracy' on the books... it also sounds like a sick Krokus album

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:42 (one month ago) link

^^^ Actually more like a Corrosion of Conformity album

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:44 (one month ago) link

Sidvicious Conspiracy is the name of my Pistols tribute band

coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:05 (one month ago) link

I don't think you're ready for this jailing, 'cause my body too sedilicious for ya.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:08 (one month ago) link

The so called “pro business” and “fiscally responsible” trade and beltway groups are endorsing the McCarthy/MAGA play to drive the economy off a cliff (default) or into a recession (w/ cuts deeper than sequestration & 800k job loss). How are these options pro-biz or responsible?

— Lindsay Owens, PhD (@owenslindsay1) May 4, 2023

curmudgeon, Friday, 5 May 2023 03:16 (one month ago) link

The so called “pro business” and “fiscally responsible” trade and beltway groups believe they can make bigger profits under a GOP-dominated government more easily than a Democrat-dominated one. After all, McConnell delivered them a gift of massive tax breaks as recently as 2017. This belief is tenuous at best, but they prefer gambling on keeping in the good graces of a MAGA-dominated Repuublican party to making a few relatively painless compromises with the Democrats. It's probably just that simple.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 5 May 2023 03:46 (one month ago) link

Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a sense among some of them that this is a pivotal political moment, getting Trump re-elected is their one big shot at fascism lite, and they’re willing to accept a short-term setback to make that happen.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 5 May 2023 05:15 (one month ago) link

Cause you know if it goes off the rails there’s gonna be a whole lot of ‘both sides’ BS in the corporate media that will sufficiently befuddle swing voters and leave them with the feeling it’s mainly Biden’s mess cause he’s the Prez.

Plus it’s just common sense that Republicans are better at the economy amirite. (Pretty sure there was a recent poll even suggesting many Democratic voters feel like the GOP is stronger at economics?)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 5 May 2023 05:18 (one month ago) link

Haven't the Republicans got the short end of every other shutdown?

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 5 May 2023 11:33 (one month ago) link

Have they? Maybe, but for now the public seems mostly split on this one. 36% blame Biden, 39% blame the GOP.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:04 (one month ago) link

The problem is political media, which thinks the debt ceiling is negotiable, therefore Biden and the GOP have to "compromise."

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:06 (one month ago) link

Biden just needs to hold the line and not negotiate with terrorists and rely on the fact that it will be Republicans who are shutting down the government, which has been the story every other time this has happened.

This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:26 (one month ago) link

Yeah, might be tough to explain the debt ceiling to the average non-wonk, but shutting government down usually gets everyone's attention, especially when people stop getting expected pay and benefits in the mail because (checks notes) the GOP wants to cut their benefits by billions.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 May 2023 13:52 (one month ago) link

Yeah, might be tough to explain the debt ceiling to the average non-wonk

with the caveat that i understand the federal budget is very different from household expenses (ie, "tightening the belt" on spending is different for the federal government than it is for mom and pop sitting around the kitchen table),

the line i always used was that the debt ceiling is a credit card bill that has to be paid. it's a bill for things that have already been purchased. you can't suddenly have a realization that you're spending too much and refuse to pay off your credit card. the time for demanding giant cuts to social services is during the passing of the federal budget.

i think the very term "debt ceiling" obscures the fact that it is referring to paying for spending that has already occurred

z_tbd, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:45 (one month ago) link

Someone had to say it...

McGovern: This represents an all time high in recklessness and stupidity. Let me point out the obvious, every time Republicans are in charge they screw things up.

— Acyn (@Acyn) May 30, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 21:47 (one week ago) link

sometimes you just can't win

Chick-Fil-A Branded 'Woke' After Right-Wingers Find Old Diversity Statement

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:37 (one week ago) link


Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:42 (one week ago) link


The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:43 (one week ago) link

this isn't political, but McDonalds is next in line

i cannot get over how cute the new sapphic McDonald's commercial is 😭

— ⚢ (@dailysoftgl) May 29, 2023

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:47 (one week ago) link

In today's hypermediated and hypersexualized world (to coin a phrase) that ad will definitely be seen as sexual by the type of people who'll make an uproar over this. otoh, their great-grandmothers probably held hands with other young women frequently, made similarly cute comments, and it never crossed their minds how that might be viewed by others. It was, if anything, hypernormal back then.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 22:56 (one week ago) link

fwiw that ad is for the Philippines market

Love na babalik-balikan #LoveKoAll 🥰

— McDo Philippines (@McDo_PH) May 30, 2023

jaymc, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 23:11 (one week ago) link

definitely pretty tolerant over there.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 23:56 (one week ago) link

hi, Shakey

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 00:02 (one week ago) link

not getting my hopes up that Οὖτις will return, but it's nice to see a post

Dan S, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 00:06 (one week ago) link

lol I guess?

🚨CBO says debt limit provisions negotiated by the White House will *expand* direct spending on SNAP and the number of recipients on net.

The expansion to veterans, homeless, and foster youth is larger than the effects of the age 49-54 work requirements

— Aaron Fritschner (@Fritschner) May 30, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 01:52 (one week ago) link

I have already read some say that CBO is over-estimating the number of vets, homeless etc who will know they’re now eligible and be able to fill out the paperwork

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 04:36 (one week ago) link

Also reading some say Biden did great in limiting budget decreases for agencies, and that with Republicans controlling House limited budgets were inevitable. But deal has all those other components too plus no closures of tax loopholes or reduced defense . Plus Biden was forced to negotiate .

The debt ceiling deal is closer to being "what Republicans would expect to get through the ordinary budget process" than many feared.

But they still profited off hostage taking. And that's a big loss for responsible government in the U.S.

— Eric Levitz (@EricLevitz) May 28, 2023

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 04:40 (one week ago) link

So, a mixed bag in terms of the politics of it, which seems unavoidable in a nation that gave Donald Trump more than 74 million votes. In terms of doing anything good for anyone below the median income, just another bitter pill they're being forced to swallow.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 05:21 (one week ago) link

for Republicans, the point of the debt-ceiling standoff was not to advance deficit reduction, but rather, a budget that prioritized low taxes for the rich and high spending on the military over all other fiscal priorities. They won this on the strength of their reputation for nihilism. Biden believed that Republicans just might deliberately make Americans poorer if he did not consent to their desired spending cuts. McCarthy, by contrast, did not believe that Democrats would engineer a recession if his caucus refused to, say, close the carried interest loophole. This is partly attributable to the fact that the sitting president is likely to take the lion’s share of blame for any economic crisis. Still, congressional Democrats’ refusal to use the debt ceiling as a vehicle for extortion under Trump indicates that the two parties are not equally credible hostage takers.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 05:50 (one week ago) link

Wow, those people who come up to Trump with tears in their eyes, now DeSantis is seeing them too.

DeSantis is particularly annoyed with Trump saying Andrew Cuomo handled covid better than him. Has brought it up multiple times during press conference.

Says Floridians came up “in tears, hugging me” during pandemic, saying “thank you, governor …. you saved my bacon.”

— Natalie Allison (@natalie_allison) May 31, 2023

DeSantis never saw my bacon.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:07 (one week ago) link

These people are all cemetery owners I imagine

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:15 (one week ago) link

the five people you meet in tears

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:16 (one week ago) link

Maybe all of these people are just allergic to assholes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:29 (one week ago) link

i seem to recall it being generally poor form for strangers in tears to walk up and hug you at the height of the pandemic, but of course DeSantis never saw it that way.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:42 (one week ago) link

i guess this is mccarthy's way of saying sorry to his right wing, while also cutting an early campaign ad for congressional democrats.

Breaking: Kevin McCarthy announces a “commission” to “look at” cutting Social Security and Medicare: “I’m going to make some people uncomfortable.”

He attacked Biden for “walling off” cuts to Social Security and Medicare during debt ceiling negotiations.

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) May 31, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 21:59 (one week ago) link

Kevin licks The Third Rail like in A Christmas Story

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:10 (one week ago) link

Good idea, the GOP should campaign on that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:22 (one week ago) link

Christ almighty. I'm not in business of giving Kevin McCarthy advice but wtf dude. They just spent literal months having a shitfit every time Biden accused them of wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare, they cut a debt ceiling deal that does not cut Social Security and Medicare, now is the time you say, "See, we were never going to cut Social Security and Medicare."

Oh, is he making you uncomfortable?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:28 (one week ago) link

it's a dog whistle to the far right that only believes the federal gov't should purchase weapons

there will be no 'commission'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:42 (one week ago) link

Kevin McCarthy always makes me uncomfortable because he always seems so uncomfortable himself. Talk about a guy who is going to leave no discernible imprint on history. He's not even sure what he's there for.

Meanwhile this Georgia raid on the people providing bail assistance to Cop City protesters seems pretty bad.

how long before he gets removed by the freedumb cockus?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 1 June 2023 13:27 (one week ago) link

After declining to take audience questions after his first New Hampshire campaign event today, Ron DeSantis lashed out at a reporter for asking him about it while he was chatting with members of the crowd individually.

Here’s the video, via @NBCNews —>

— Jonathan Allen (@jonallendc) June 1, 2023

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:42 (one week ago) link

Clashing with the Press.. look what it did for Trump, gotta play that same card

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:47 (one week ago) link

“It” what

june 1 and 2 never happened

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 June 2023 15:08 (five days ago) link

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) June 3, 2023

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 June 2023 15:14 (five days ago) link

we should just keep posting on this thread, imo. time is disappearing.

is this possible in florida? for one person to request that the bible be banned, and that's enough to get it banned pending review?

z_tbd, Saturday, 3 June 2023 15:41 (five days ago) link

BREAKING: Late Friday night, a federal judge declared Tennessee’s anti-drag Adult Entertainment Act to be unconstitutional following a two-day trial last month. More to come at Law Dork:

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) June 3, 2023

curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 June 2023 18:59 (five days ago) link

really think this is kind of a dumb gotcha to do tactically. these places will just write in a Bible exception, they will like having that reason to do it. xp

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 3 June 2023 19:01 (five days ago) link

Unless there's an objection or someone starts a new one shortly I'm just going to change the thread title to include June.

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Saturday, 3 June 2023 20:34 (five days ago) link

Has Joe Biden succeeded in making politics boring again?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 3 June 2023 20:52 (five days ago) link

Good luck isa

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 3 June 2023 21:17 (five days ago) link

I think this is going to seem incredibly weird to general election voters

DeSantis: As president, I recognize that the woke mind virus represents a war on the truth so we will wage a war on the woke. We will fight the woke in education, we will fight the woke in corporations, we will fight the woke in the halls of congress.

— Acyn (@Acyn) June 3, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 June 2023 22:40 (five days ago) link

He sounds disturbed

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 3 June 2023 22:45 (five days ago) link

Sunshine state Blake Masters

Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 3 June 2023 23:12 (five days ago) link

I am watching a water skiing show in Wisconsin right now, and the MC is giving off serious Meatball Ron vibes. Like he's found himself in front of tens of people and has no idea what to do or how to come off like a human person while attempting it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 June 2023 23:37 (five days ago) link

Here's a freebie thread title. Use as is or twist to your heart's content:

US Politics, June 2023: Meatball Ron And The Don

righteousmaelstrom, Sunday, 4 June 2023 00:45 (four days ago) link

Meatballs III: Summer “Rob”

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 4 June 2023 01:15 (four days ago) link

We shall fight woke on the beaches, we will fight woke on the landing grounds, we shall fight woke in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight woke in the hills. We shall never surrender.

sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 4 June 2023 01:35 (four days ago) link

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