James Gunn's DCU: Embracing the Morrisonverse

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Here are just a few of our plans. Up, up, and away! #DCStudios #DCU @DCComics pic.twitter.com/8XNDNLUEPq

— James Gunn (@JamesGunn) January 31, 2023

it's a lot

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:47 (two months ago) link

I mean these are basically all good choices as far as I can see?

Doom Patrol/Watchmen team do a Suicide Squad spin off, Gunn does presumably fun takes on Creature Commandos and Booster Gold, Morrison's takes on Superman and Batman and Green Lantern and The Authority, Tom King on Supergirl, pseudo-Moore horror anthology for Swamp Thing.

i assume he was given Flash and Shazam and Blue Beetle and told to make it work.

I hope everybody gets paid and these stay story forward in the same way Peacemaker was.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:52 (two months ago) link

yeah between that ezra miller, they really handed him a bag of shit to start with
i assume he has final approval for casting moving forward considering how immensely fucked up it's been until now

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:03 (two months ago) link

are they bringing back rpatz???

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:49 (two months ago) link

Separate continuity:


Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:59 (two months ago) link

Separately, group interview with Gunn and Safran:


Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:00 (two months ago) link

Well, Gunn's definitely not, uh, thrilled about the past:

Gunn: The history has been shit. It’s been a real fucked up journey for DC. I think that there was basically no one minding the mint and they were giving out IP to any creatives that, you know, smiled at whoever was in charge. There was never any real power given to the people in charge. And so somebody could always go over their head and do whatever they wanted. And, you know, we had the DCEU, which then became the Joss Whedon Justice League, but it also became the Snyderverse, which became this. And we have Wonder Woman and we have Wonder Woman [1984], which doesn’t even match what happened in Wonder Woman one. And then we have the Arrowverse and even us, coming in with The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker. And then all of a sudden Batmite is a real guy.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:01 (two months ago) link

This is not the Gunnverse

cautiously optimistic this won't be as flat and predictable as MCU

what have I done to deserve you (lukas), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:15 (two months ago) link

Peacemaker bought a LOT of goodwill from me. Hard to think of anyone else I would even be even slightly optimistic taking the controls.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:30 (two months ago) link

The problem with the DCEU wasn't that the continuity was poor. It was that its tentpole films sucked -- superman, superman v batman, justice league were all terrible, wonder woman 1 was ok. The continuity problems came afterwards when WB went into panic mode.

I bet half of these newly announced projects don't come out as described.

adam t. (abanana), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:59 (one month ago) link

what's Bat-Mite in?!

more crankable (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 01:18 (one month ago) link

that zachary levi thing is disappointing, he convincingly plays likable people; good actor then I guess because he appears to be a shit. that said I'll probably still see that since I liked the first one and I watched Leticia Wright in WakandaForever.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 01:42 (one month ago) link

Maybe Zachary Levi just wants stringent price controls on the COVID vaccine.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:05 (one month ago) link

its tentpole films sucked

I blame Snyder for that more than WB tho

what have I done to deserve you (lukas), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:24 (one month ago) link

James Gunn def a good creative choice, his movies are fun for one thing. Also I was a big fan of the most recent Batman flick, a pretty swift 170+ min and compellingly slow burn atmospheric vs the diminishing returns of the Nolan approach. I kinda hope they do keep it separate from the rest of the DCU, and Joker-free.

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:29 (one month ago) link

sic otm give me Bat-Mite

mh, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:11 (one month ago) link

Bat-Mite is mentioned in the second episode of the DC Extended Universe series Peacemaker, "Best Friends, For Never", when John Economos mentions he would rather be working with Bat-Mite than Peacemaker.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:12 (one month ago) link

I watched and liked Peacemaker but don’t remember that joke BUTTTT also I like it (and/but have 0 opinion over whether it means bat-mite is a dude)

more crankable (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 05:45 (one month ago) link

Oh man, please please please gimme a good Swamp Thing movie with the Anatomy Lesson

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 12:23 (one month ago) link

BatMite in Canon & Morriverse has me hoping for some Zur-Eh-arrh references in the batfilm.

Sad to see, still no news on reviving the weird hunchback that lives in batmans cellar and fixes his stuff.

when's he gonna get his six part series on HBO?

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 14:25 (one month ago) link

most anyone who clicked the post already knows all this but for people unfamiliar with writer Grant Morrison's work in the DCU, this is a not-unreasonable primer (sic may disagree):

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 19:32 (one month ago) link

Okay obviously not GunnCU but since this might as well be the rolling thread now:


Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2023 00:22 (one month ago) link

a) shades of Rick and Morty
b) no cosmic treadmill no credibility
c) i hope keaton got paid well

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 February 2023 03:05 (one month ago) link

I think Swamp Thing would work better as a tv streaming series. I don’t know that it would pace right for a 2 hour movie.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Monday, 13 February 2023 04:36 (one month ago) link

Wasn’t there a Swamp Thing series recently?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 13 February 2023 04:44 (one month ago) link

Ah, there was, cancelled after 1 series.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 13 February 2023 04:45 (one month ago) link

It was better than the movies, but that's really faint praise. Swamp Thing can't be a dude in a suit, it just doesn't work.

I was surprised to see the Blue Devil turn up in it.

Cow_Art, Monday, 13 February 2023 06:33 (one month ago) link

v weird to see the keaton batman, who was almost completely immobile in the burton movies, nimbly flapping around in this like prequel-era cgi yoda

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 February 2023 13:39 (one month ago) link

maybe there'll be a scene explaining his new yoga regime

Number None, Monday, 13 February 2023 13:46 (one month ago) link

Very recognisably Glasgow city centre at about the 0.11 mark on that trailer, complete with bus stops.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 13 February 2023 13:52 (one month ago) link

All narrative roads lead to the multiverse.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 February 2023 14:14 (one month ago) link

while I think that superhero fiction is a net negative in culture and wish that its period of dominance in popular culture would end, there is a part of me that feels sad that the DC milieu got fucked up SO BAD for movies by WB in the last ten years…WB and DC had decades of synergy so that they could get this right and not watch Marvel/Disney run away with this shit…I almost think that its too late and they should focus on the post CW TV shit and build their franchise there…I tried to watch some of the tv Crisis crossovers, but it was too much for me, a 60s-80s DC alt earth expert…

Is it not also odd that Marvel got to the different earths/timeline shit before DC? since 1961, that's been DC's thing, and Marvel only messed with that sparingly, almost as a commentary on that stuff being a cornerstone of DC storytelling/universe building. I would almost think Gunn should see to it that none of his films should mess with that conceit if Marvel is making Dr Strange movies about multiverse shit…

veronica moser, Monday, 13 February 2023 15:54 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

A thing:


In what should come as no surprise, James Gunn will be directing his own script for Superman: Legacy, a major lynchpin project which will off the the multi-platform connected DC universe – “Chapter One, Gods and Monsters” ­– which he and his DC’ Co-Chairmen & CEO Peter Safran are launching....Superman Legacy tells the story of Superman’s journey to reconcile his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as Clark Kent of Smallville, Kansas. He is the embodiment of truth, justice and the American way, guided by human kindness in a world that sees kindness as old-fashioned. Gunn has already mentioned on social that his Superman will be younger than his forties. The all-new action adventure is set to soar into theaters worldwide on July 11, 2025.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 20:13 (two weeks ago) link

xp The contrast w/Marvel is pretty fascinating; esp. considering that DC had the "studio synergy" in place for decades longer.

reluctant antonoff appreciator (morrisp), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:28 (two weeks ago) link

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