“I'm taking a ride with my best friend” - The Last of Us on HBO (2023)

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Watched the first episode of this last night and saw several comments saying there should be a thread but nobody actually making one, so, here.

Have never played the game myself but have seen my husband playing it & may finally start it. Thought it was very easy to follow regardless of how you knew the game beforehand, which is top of what an adaptation needs to do.

Superb cast as well.

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:19 (two weeks ago) link

Last of Us and Skinamarink have opened to wild success this year bc their style of horror doesn't rely on jump scares or gore but simply on showing audiences what it would be like to live in Alberta

— Ibaka Shinji (@Cam_Oflage) January 18, 2023

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:39 (two weeks ago) link

lol

Anyway, it's an interesting quandary: if you know where the (game) story is going, does that blind you to what the show may or may not be doing well? That's what make me interested in hearing from people that have never played the game; as far as this specific story goes, it's hard to convey what makes it different without, well, conveying what makes it different.

To that point, I read something on I think Kotaku that was more or less comparing in real time the game's progression to the show's, with a focus on the shocking episode one death. The author, iirc, called it manipulative, at least in the game, which ... yeah, of course it is! But it's also the game's prime mover, so it's got to be powerful. As far the TV show goes, though, I think the event serves a slightly different purpose. In a lot of these shows, from "The Sopranos" to "The Walking Dead," "who is going to die?" becomes a sort of ghoulish weekly parlor game. I find *that* manipulative and honestly kind of tired. In the show, as in the game, getting that over with in a big way in the first episode is kind of like ripping the bandaid off, but it's a trick that only works once. The rest of the game, and I imagine the rest of the show, is or should be about character (in every sense), and in this regard I suspect people that think they know where the story is going might be surprised at where it ends up.

Or maybe not! I know the game has its seen-it-all-before detractors, too. But there's a humanity beating at the heart of "The Last of Us" (the game) that many games of its ilk lack, just as (imo) "Children of Men" achieved more than the average post apocalyptic picaresque.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 14:09 (two weeks ago) link

I played approximately two hours of the first game before getting distracted so the tv pilot was almost exactly what I'd already seen

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 14:36 (two weeks ago) link

This editorial makes the case for watching the show first and playing the game second, since playing the game second expands on the show (which, plot-wise, reportedly sticks to the game) with exploration, stealth, combat and other more interactive/world-building aspects. I can see that. As I noted, playing the game first makes the show more of a curiosity.

https://www.avclub.com/should-you-play-the-last-of-us-before-watching-the-show-1849998022

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

The only video games I play are Tetris and Mario Kart. I'll stick to watching the show as a TV show and stay away from what video game people say or think.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 15:37 (two weeks ago) link

Jesus Christ

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

I'd argue this game is one of a handful that shifted the line between "video game people" and general consumers/critics of quality art/entertainment. A helpful example I've cited for a few folks is the game "Red Dead Redemption 2," which reportedly made over $700 million its first weekend alone. That's huge, and definitely positions "video game people" as a pretty big block comparable to or sometimes exceeding more familiar old people audiences for books, movies, music, etc. At a certain point, "not video game people" become kind of the outlier, and ignoring or avoiding games akin to someone in 1980 still talking shit about rock and roll or someone in 2000 deriding hip-hop. It's a huge, integral part of contemporary culture and entertainment. 

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

Or just acknowledge what a ludicrous opinion it is that the source material should never be mentioned, lol?

can you still hit dinngers (gyac), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:14 (two weeks ago) link

At a certain point, "not video game people" become kind of the outlier, and ignoring or avoiding games akin to someone in 1980 still talking shit about rock and roll or someone in 2000 deriding hip-hop. It's a huge, integral part of contemporary culture and entertainment.

That's inarguably true. And as someone old enough to have played games on an Atari 2600, I recognize that being totally out of touch with game culture makes me the minority. All I really mean is that if the show can't stand on its own, then it fails. So far, it very much does stand on its own, and I'm interested to see where it goes (much more than I was interested in/by The Walking Dead, for example), but I don't need to know what's different about this version. I own all six Resident Evil movies on Blu-Ray and have never played that game, either. The movies are their own batshit thing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

you can always ignore when people complain something's not faithful to the source material if you're uninterested in it!

I did lol at "video game people" though when that's like... 40% of the population that's not retirement age

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

Who knew the world’s new oldest person was here and posting on ilx?

can you still hit dinngers (gyac), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:28 (two weeks ago) link

Anyway, I was one of many who completely missed that there was a clicker on the roof of the building in the closing shot of the opening ep

(Mild spoiler because it's something in the game that hasn't come up in the show yet).

groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 17:32 (two weeks ago) link

it took me more than 10 minutes of watching her character to realise that Anna Torv is in this. I'll watch just about anything with Anna Torv and Pedro Pascal in it as long as it isn't some Star Wars spinoff.

calzino, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:09 (one week ago) link

glad the people responsible for video games' leap into the realm of quality art/entertainment are finally getting a chance to work in the medium they're interested in

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:21 (one week ago) link

^^^ the world's second oldest person

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:22 (one week ago) link

their pants legs dried awfully fast after wading through the lobby pond

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 23 January 2023 04:21 (one week ago) link

I think the line about having to climb ten flights of stairs afterward was supposed to cover that.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 23 January 2023 11:59 (one week ago) link

wet clothes instantly becoming dry is a scrupulously authentic video game trope tbh

Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 January 2023 12:05 (one week ago) link

Lol. I appreciated the mgsv thing where you have to shower constantly or else you remain smelly and covered in blood for this reason. Only bit of realism the whole game.

can you still hit dinngers (gyac), Monday, 23 January 2023 12:12 (one week ago) link

I just assume everyone in video games is constantly filthy and damp. Except Arthur in RDR2, who takes a lot of baths. But he gets filthy again pretty quickly.

Once again some shots and scenes that are exactly like the game; great sets/virtual sets/however they do it. Also some changes and tweaks that are noticeably different from the game, like the Indonesia stuff and the way the fungus spreads/communicates. The latter is imo less effective than in the game. In the game, the fungus largely spreads via spores. I get why they changed it here, but at the same time now it's less passive, more like the aggressive hive-mind creature in "The Thing" that wants to spread and survive at all costs; iirc they even gave the fungus spreading a scary sound. I don't know if this is meant to play up the threat, but I think it makes the clickers seem more like conventional zombies, which of course we've seen a lot. What I like about the game is the way the spores and slightly more aimless clickers are depicted pose a kind of constant ambient threat; they're dangerous obstacles as much as anything else. Here they're portrayed as more predatory than environmental.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:05 (one week ago) link

i am really digging this so far

love how the creatures are so grotesque but weirdly beautiful, like a del Toro movie

and the tone of the show isnt just action/survival but this intense underlying sadness, it’s v good and i am into it

i wanted to yell at anna torv “aaaaah omg jfc who gives a fuck abt the stupid lighter just pull one of the 20 fucking grenades on the ground”

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 05:01 (one week ago) link

love u anna

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 05:02 (one week ago) link

Honest question, why is everyone so into Anna Torv? She's fine in this, but I'm not sure I've ever heard of her before, and don't recognize her from anything else. Was she in a popular movie or show that I've never seen or something?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 13:13 (one week ago) link

She was in Fringe and Mindhunter, two shows a lot of people liked. (Me included, though I wasn't raving/passionate about either.) She's got that kind of business-domme thing that lots of nerds go for.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 13:28 (one week ago) link

I don't know what Fringe is, but I have been meaning to start Mindhunter, so I guess I'll see her there!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:08 (one week ago) link

She’s Rupert Murdoch’s niece apparently

Mule, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:00 (one week ago) link

oh ffs!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:30 (one week ago) link

will always be olivia to me

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:35 (one week ago) link

otm

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:45 (one week ago) link

I still maintain that the dual universe plot in Fringe is the best sci-fi series stuff in decades. And yeah, the part of Olivia that isn't in any way at all and couldn't possibly be Rupert Murdoch's niece still rules!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:54 (one week ago) link

I watched something where a zeppelin made an appearance recently and was disappointed anew that the alternate universe in Fringe didn't get more time/attention.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:24 (one week ago) link

anna torv shouldn't be judged by her aunt's terrible life decisions!

omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:27 (one week ago) link

She's got that kind of business-domme thing that lots of nerds go for.

...

Anyway, weird sexual dimension now with how the infection spreads, which is appropriate because that's how fungus reproduces.

Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:35 (one week ago) link

dumb question here

but wouldn’t the best place to avoid infection be the coastline? like that kinda fungus wouldn’t thrive/spread in a coastal environment right? or no?

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:44 (one week ago) link

Anna Torv left her phone unattended. She returned to this photo. pic.twitter.com/iMg6xiWJQx

— Bella Ramsey (@BellaRamsey) January 24, 2023

groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:08 (one week ago) link

Veg, how do you mean? I think that fungi can grow anywhere (even *in* the oceans).

I'm curious what people thought of the museum sequence (if they thought it was tense) and if they've played the game or not. I felt kind of bored by it even though in the game it's pretty stressful, I think because the stakes and outcome of the latter are actually up in the air and depend on my active interaction with it.

Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 18:21 (one week ago) link

Just felt like Jurassic Park kitchen sequence. It was entertaining but needed to be a little more creative to actually be exciting.

Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 18:45 (one week ago) link

I'm curious what people thought of the museum sequence (if they thought it was tense) and if they've played the game or not. I felt kind of bored by it even though in the game it's pretty stressful, I think because the stakes and outcome of the latter are actually up in the air and depend on my active interaction with it.

Standard horror trope. We're moving through the empty house/haunted hospital/abandoned military facility...when (not if) will the creatures attack? I thought it was a little less tense than some other iterations I've seen but generally fine. And the fungus-headed monsters were kinda cool-looking. The best part of the episode was the Indonesia prelude, though.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 18:57 (one week ago) link

horror games are always scarier than other horror media bc of the level of immersion. i found the scene very stressful though!

fungus makeout is the kind of ridiculous and awesome visual i needed to send this show home for me, having a great time

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:10 (one week ago) link

Made the mistake of checking what the internet at large thought of that scene. Not surprisingly there's tons of confusion. Seemed clear to me? Tess trying to stand still so the zombies don't swarm her. She's infected and about to kill herself. She can't light the lighter. Oh god they're running right by now, it just won't light. Stay still. One is walking up to her. No sudden movements, just light it. In her face now. The spores are coming out of the mouth and reaching toward her. They would have attacked by now but something's different ...because it's also inside her this time. Kissing? No, not exactly... might look that way maybe, but no. Horrible. Doesn't matter, don't move, just light it.

However seeing lots of "what's the deal with the KISS?! wtf?!" comments

Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:14 (one week ago) link

Yeah sure it didn't actually have to happen at all, but it was cool shock value but made in-universe sense to me!

Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:16 (one week ago) link

and*

Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:17 (one week ago) link

I don't know what Fringe is, but I have been meaning to start Mindhunter, so I guess I'll see her there!

Fringe is available on HBO Max. I just re-watched the pilot and it's fucking bonkers.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:06 (one week ago) link

i love Fringe so much, even when it confused me utterly

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:46 (one week ago) link

I found the museum stalking scene writhingly terrifying (non gamer here btw).

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 26 January 2023 03:40 (one week ago) link

Yeah clickers are as freaky in the game as they were depicted in the museum!

octobeard, Thursday, 26 January 2023 05:21 (one week ago) link

I Photoshop paddington into a movie, game, or TV show until I forget: Day 688 pic.twitter.com/GAYYrNbGRr

— Jaythechou (@jaythechou) January 26, 2023

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 January 2023 06:43 (one week ago) link

horror games are always scarier than other horror media bc of the level of immersion.

Definitely this. Had plenty of tense moments watching horror movies but nothing that compares to playing say Dead Space or Silent Hill 2.

groovypanda, Thursday, 26 January 2023 08:16 (one week ago) link

The cold openings for this show are stellar.

here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Sunday, 29 January 2023 18:54 (six days ago) link

yes perhaps we can finally find some of her records in record stores now

k3vin k., Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:03 (four days ago) link

Need to catch up on the thread but this:

_I was trying to think about post-apocalyptic fiction I’ve seen or read that does people living, rather than just surviving_


_Station Eleven_ (both the book and the series) grapple with art in the age after apocalypse (and the book makes hay out of the slogan "survival is insufficient").


I actually have this book but I haven’t read it yet - thank you for the push!

here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:03 (four days ago) link

the whole 'living, not surviving' is always what I'm thinking of when I watch apocalyptic fiction. like if every one of my days involved eating dead roadkill, watching people around me die, being unable to sleep for fear of being eaten/dying of infection, and having PTSD put everyone at each other's throats, I'd probably just let a zombie/virus take me.

or as the band All put it, 'not alive, just living'

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:19 (four days ago) link

OK maybe this is super-obvious but is the fungus - which eats away its victims' brains but connects them into one hyperaggressive consciousness - a metaphor for social media ... which kind of really kicked off around 2003, the year zero of the end times of The Last of Us?

Brio2, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:19 (four days ago) link

it's a metaphor for how the fungus is among us

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:25 (four days ago) link

but in seriousness, it makes sense at least for teh show's presentation

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:25 (four days ago) link

And to this episode... beyond all the stuff already discussed, I really liked it just as a signal very early into the show's run that it was going to do interesting things with storytelling. I like being told clearly in Episode 3 that this show will take its time and pacing, that it will tell side-stories, that many characters we get to know and like will die, that it will ruminate on the philosophical questions that arise from living in a world in decline (questions that feel less and less academic). The whole eye-rolling (from critics quoted, not so much from people on the thread) about this being somehow familiar or same-old same-old is pretty different from how it hit me.

Brio2, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:33 (four days ago) link

quite honestly I was refreshed because if every moment of the show is just the two taking their journey, it'll get old. I enjoy watching flashbacks to the world as it is collapsing and other people's stories in addition to the main thrust.

now granted I have no idea how the game handled that but

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:39 (four days ago) link

That's the (neutral) criticism I had, that a limited single season adaptation of the first game doesn't necessarily have the luxury of taking its time with side characters, as there are a finite number of episodes with which to tell some very important story beats. That said, given that this episode was very different from how it played out in the game, maybe there is other stuff from the game that they will cut, though iirc they said that this episode was the only significant deviation from the game. I can only assume there will be other small details added here and there that will similarly get us to the same endpoint.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:42 (four days ago) link

quite honestly I was refreshed because if every moment of the show is just the two taking their journey, it'll get old. I enjoy watching flashbacks to the world as it is collapsing and other people's stories in addition to the main thrust.

Exactly. The more I think about it, the more I want every subsequent episode to be like this one. I don't care that it's Not How It Was In The Game — it's a more interesting and expansive show if every week we get to see someone else's life, someone else's version of the apocalypse, and then see how that life intersects with Joel and Ellie as they come driving/trudging through on their quest. Because honestly, so far, neither Joel nor Ellie are super-fascinating characters. They're vehicles for plot advancement/goal achievement. So if they're used to bracket smaller, more interesting stories, I'm all for it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:43 (four days ago) link

Yeah - the talk show and the Indonesia vignette were compact versions of that willingness to explore the edges of the world too. I'm not someone who knows anything about the game so I may be wrong, but it feels like this type of digressive storytelling would be tougher to do in gameplay focused on the central quest. Unless there's a whole part where you have to hide strawberry seeds and secretly plant them for your survivalist bear life partner segment in the game.

Brio2, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:47 (four days ago) link

the Indonesia vignette was great. just the realization by the scientist that cordyceps has been pulled from a human being

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:49 (four days ago) link

To Josh's point - do we know yet whether the plan is to tell the whole story of the original video game this season? Gameplayers would know better than I if it's on track to do that in 6 more episodes.

Brio2, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:54 (four days ago) link

my biggest inability to suspend disbelief so far relates to gasoline, which goes bad after a year or two. the fact that everybody's driving around surely means that one of the QZ's is drilling for and refining gas, yeah?

, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:57 (four days ago) link

xpost On track? Sort of. Again, it depends on how they tell the story. To that point:

Because honestly, so far, neither Joel nor Ellie are super-fascinating characters. They're vehicles for plot advancement/goal achievement.

And honestly, this is why I'm enjoying the discussion, especially among those unfamiliar with the game. There's a reason the game is beloved, and it hinges 100% on the relationship between Joel & Ellie. I'd argue that should the show fail to make them compelling to anyone not familiar with the game, then the show fails as an adaptation (or at least as an adaptation of the game's story). Unless it does indeed go different directions than the game went in, but there is no indication that is the plan. Every piece on it says it follows the first game to its conclusion. (The second game will supposedly be broken up into two seasons.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:59 (four days ago) link

also, bella ramsey is generally good as a secret britisher but her accent does leak through a few times imo.

, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:03 (four days ago) link

xpost lol when Frank was taking a shower I was like DUDE THERE'S NO MORE PURIFICATION OF THE WATER SUPPLY ARE YOU NUTS.

i always wind up having to give a Jedi-handwave away on post-apoc shows/movies where people are grabbing obviously perishable food that is probably ten years past expiry and eating it and not dying from the bacteria pouring out of it. or in Terminator, where there seems to BE no food in a nuclear contaminated land, like what the fuck were they eating, rats (as seen in the segue in the first Terminator)?

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:04 (four days ago) link

re: characters... Ellie's got potential to be pretty compelling - weird mix of sheltered and feral, with a cruel almost sociopathic streak (which might be a pretty reasonale response to her environment). She's pretty interesting already, especially for a potential saviour figure. Joel started strong but could use some more character development at this point.

Brio2, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:09 (four days ago) link

tbf with post-apoc shows you're never going to get a satisfying amount of that in the first few eps, because they're settling a baseline, usually showing you what this person was like before things went south, and their new, grizzled demeanor, and naturally folks in this situation tend to be have little motivation other than getting to the next day alive, which makes them boring to the viewer.

i can already see Joel opening up a bit, with him getting excited about Linda Ronstadt. Ellie seems to be dripping with personality but nobody to latch it onto since Joel's been closed off, so Joel's opening will help w/ that.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:13 (four days ago) link

right, their whole relationship stakes are that he's terrified to open himself to the relaxed affectionate dynamic he had with his daughter in episode one because he couldn't take another loss like that... but we know the ice will melt eventually. Must be killing him keeping all his dad jokes under wraps.

Brio2, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:20 (four days ago) link

Anyway the strawberries scene is as much about Bill’s childish giggle (that is reflected back by Ellie’s later wide-eyed wonder at the plane and the car) as it is a metaphor.
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Tuesday, January 31, 2023 10:50 AM

You get either the Offerman hog or the giggle--not both.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:41 (four days ago) link

this will sound super dumb but I already buy that there *will* be a relationship btw Joe & Ellie even if there’s not much of one yet, mainly bc Pedro Pascal pulled off a relationship aship with an animatronic puppet while wearing a mask & i bought that shit hook line & sinker.

also as he proved w Chernobyl, imo, Mazin can be a patient storyteller. He showed w that that he has a good sense of character & a confidence in the bones of a story. he’s not trying to quickly hamhandedly exposition you into caring for ppl: he’ll show you stuff you think you don’t need that serves the moments better, and that serve thd overall story better & (hopefully) give you a much more emotional, memorable payoff.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:24 (four days ago) link

And I have no reason to believe the whole team won't pull it off here. After all, Neil Druckmann wrote and (essentially) directed the game and had a huge hand in every last detail. It's great thanks to his efforts, instincts and diligence. He's almost as involved with the show, as a director, writer, all around co-creator and overseer, so the idea that given his track record he would suddenly allow the ball to be dropped is pretty much out of the question. For example, I'm not entirely sold yet on Bella Ramsey, but I know she was cast for a reason.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:32 (four days ago) link

That Beaujolais really would have been past its best

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:01 (four days ago) link

I just figure in all these post-apocalyptic stories that standards have been lowered to a few pegs below the bare minimum. Like, everything, from medicine to wine, is expired, so the question is, how expired? There's no way that dog food that Max digs into at the start of "Road Warrior" is still any good, even assuming it ever was "good" to begin with.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:07 (four days ago) link

Twinkies remain Twinkies, though.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:25 (four days ago) link

i'm just sayin, it's gotta be hard to quest on when yr shitting into a bucket 1 out of every 3 days

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:42 (four days ago) link

I'm fine with keeping the bacteria-related bucket-shitting and depictions of spoiled food and sewage water bathing related illness at the current low levels in the show myself, even if credulity is strained.

Brio2, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:57 (four days ago) link

swear to god if you guys digress into a whole sidebar about shitting i will burn this thread down

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:59 (four days ago) link

I heard they went to the spread via bites vs spread via spore inhalation because they didn't want the actors hiding behind masks for teh duration of the show. it's a good move but I wonder how much of that is also Pedro Pascal saying "I ain't doing another show where you can't see my face, fuck you"

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:01 (three days ago) link

i'm kind of hoping for flashbacks to Joel and his daughter. I'm expecting Ellie will accidentally drag that out of him one episode, because I'm sure that's the main thing that shattered him

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:02 (three days ago) link

xpost lol that seems v otm

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:05 (three days ago) link

"Pedro - the good news is they've agreed to get rid of the masks. Bad news is they won't budge on all the shitting scenes."

Brio2, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:13 (three days ago) link

That's the (neutral) criticism I had, that a limited single season adaptation of the first game doesn't necessarily have the luxury of taking its time with side characters, as there are a finite number of episodes with which to tell some very important story beats.

When you can make your episodes as long as you want, this seems a non-problem. First and third episodes were movie-length, while the second was only 50 minutes.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:15 (three days ago) link

huh, there's another set of media based on a Cordyceps infection?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_with_All_the_Gifts_(film)

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:21 (three days ago) link

I enjoyed that movie; check it out if you have time. I think it's on Netflix.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:32 (three days ago) link

Cool!

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:35 (three days ago) link

When you can make your episodes as long as you want, this seems a non-problem. First and third episodes were movie-length, while the second was only 50 minutes.

Not quite - first episode was 81, third was 76, the future six episodes reportedly run an hour or less - but point taken.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:46 (three days ago) link

Because honestly, so far, neither Joel nor Ellie are super-fascinating characters.

This is how I'm feeling with the show currently, though I'll say that even at this point in the game, they're still very vibrant and engaging. Maybe the indifference I feel to the show characters right now is premature, but partly knowing some of the big story beats drains the dramatic tension (like the death in episode 2). That's why I found episode 3 so riveting, because it's a 180 from the game.

Twinkies remain Twinkies, though.

As, apparently, do bears.

John Mayer McCheese (Leee), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 01:15 (three days ago) link

what survival tactics guy is not drinking filtered well water, is what I am asking you weird haters thinking he is in municipal water. natural springs, bitches

mh, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 03:23 (three days ago) link

Anyone who complains this recent episode somehow violated video game lore should notice:

Video games are very loot focused, and the entire denouement of this episode was the note reading “I didn’t like you but I respected you, here is the code to the loot”
very video games

mh, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:30 (three days ago) link

Not quite - first episode was 81, third was 76


RULED: Dumbo and Run Lola Run are NOT movies.

more crankable (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 05:29 (three days ago) link

lol, I thought of Petite Maman (72 min) when he posted that

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:03 (three days ago) link

Tbf, "Run Lola Run" is about as close to a video game as you can get. But yes, there are short movies. And long movies, too! And movies that are both, like "A Short Film About Killing."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:29 (three days ago) link

yeah mh, I watched this episode and aside from being touched, laughed at the videogameness of it when the end of the episode was basically "Item unlocked! TRUCK"

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:37 (three days ago) link

The most video gamey moment of it was imo when they passed some beat up lockers and shelves. I turned to my wife and told her that's a big part of the game.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:39 (three days ago) link

it was nice that all the ingredients to juice up the truck battery were in one spot. it'd be bad television if he had to hunt for the components across several locations and complete side quests

mh, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:41 (three days ago) link

And then there's a power cut and he has to go back to Bill and Frank's again

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:07 (three days ago) link

i liked the third episode a lot, and i haven't seen anyone really mention this, but i am curious to see how the show continues to dialog with video game storytelling tropes. for example, plotwise, this week's episode amounted to an arsenal upgrade lol, the part of the game where the player goes from struggling to survive to wielding a bit more firepower. i haven't played either game, but it seems to arrive at a similar point in the plot as where you get the gravity gun in half-life 2.

but obviously they made a beautiful, character-driven story out of it. seems like a pretty ideal way to make a video game adaptation.

sault bae (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:50 (two days ago) link


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